NEW 2023 Suzuki V-Strom DE | But Is It Any Good??
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- čas přidán 15. 02. 2023
- For 2023 Suzuki has updated the V-Strom with a 21" front wheel, TFT dash, quick shifter and blipper, plus a host of other electronic updates. But the real question is how do these chassis changes on the DE version effect the road holding?
Its time to find out!!
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Back in 2006 I bought a brand new vstrom for £5500, rode over 50k on it, only issues were a rear wheel bearing at 20k, and normal wear parts, when it had the valve check (late) at 40k it required zero adjustment. For comparison a brand new GS1200 was about 9k back then. I sold the vstrom for 3.5k ! Suzuki make great bikes, and they aren't a status symbol like a GS
More women are attracted to the Suzuki but if you wear a BMW GS hat youll be sure to attract men in retirement age.
@Piss Take Production I think that crown belongs to ducati
@@MrRGM10 😂
Over the last 20 years, I've had honda's and Yamaha's, but I've never kept them long. I always go back to suzuki .
I absolutely love my current bike, a 2018 vstrom1000. It's a fantastic bike. Great brakes, great handling, and all day comfortable.
However, since my bike had its first service , it developed the dreaded idle hammer. Which comes with reduced power , increased fuel consumption and an engine that sounds like it's about to shake itself to bits... it also leads to clutch basket issues.
The forums are full of people that have the same story and the same problem 😢...... unfortunately, suzuki denies there's an issue.
Even though it's apparently caused by crank shaft end float due to incorrect machining tolerances.... Apparently suzuki have done nothing to rectify this on the new bike.
I love what they've done with the new 1050 however I'm not prepared to take the chance on the engine.
So I'm considering the 1250 gs, not cos it's a status symbol, but because the company i work get huge discounts on bmws. A basic 1250 triple black with crash bars and a 5 years service pack works out cheaper than the road spec vstrom 1050....
Sorry suzuki I think your about to loose a loyal customer.
Just like those expensive 4X4 SUV never go off the tarmac and are for show only, so the GS1200 gets parked outside cafe and never goes off-tarmac, you need to be brave to take a 600lb bike off road, especially with its tall seat.
The DE version in yellow reminds so much of the Suzuki motocross RM range of machines that i grew up with.......love it 💛
Great vid....thanks Chops 👍😊
I realize that the yellow is a nod to the motocross division but I think I would have to go with the classic Suzuki blue if I was buying. Sounds like this is more than enough bike for 90% of "adventure" riders. Being a Suzuki it will be bulletproof.
Wish they made a new SV1050 with that motor.
Bigger companies would, a bike somewhere between the V-Strom and the GSX-S 1000 GT, half faired and a naked?
Glad you got to stretch the bikes legs and be able to pass on your experience. Looks like Suzuki have another winner on their hands . Great video,thanks for sharing Chops .
Perfect bike for long distance touring, all the tech that you really want and need. Yellow looks great!! Considering this instead of my t700... hmm. As always really high quality video and review
Thanks Erik 😁 👍
Impressive bike, to match the impressive off road riding! Loving this DE version. Although the standard is very capable as well. Loved this edit, sound quality was mint, and all the camera angles made for a stunning video. Nicely done, buddy. Top of your game! Hope you enjoyed a few days away. Cheers 🍻
Thanks Mike, yes did spend a bit of time on this one. 👍
@@LambChopRides have you considered a 3 way comparo .. V-Strom 1050 (old vs new) vs P-Strom800 vs the older V-Strom650 .. great to see them "adventuring" .. OFF ROAD trail .. not gravel roads like other reviewers 👌 .. regards from NZ .. Suzuki's PR department need a review in personel
Fantastic, really enjoyed both the vids I have always had a soft spot for the vstrom and this latest version not only looks amazing in the blue it has everything you need. Thanks Chopsy wish I was able to meet up with you this weekend but injured at the moment take care and thanks for all the wonderful content
Rain hail and shine your out there doing it review on motorbikes good to see Top job my man
It’s a Suzuki, of course it’s good!!
I’d have the yellow one 😎
Great review chopsy , started off liking the blue one but the yellow is definitely growing on me always love the gold wheels. Great camera work, great editing and as always great patter.😁😁 richy nearly had the 360 cam touching down when you where pushing him 😁😁👍
Love the bike and love the channel chopman...whats even better is i am a 6ft 3" 20 stoner and although your not as heavy i can relate to what your feeling riding being a big lad..waiting here for your next upload😀
Very nice 👌🏻 extra 3k would of made a big difference on my budget over my XT, screen/clocks would of been nice over my casio😂 but most the time im looking at the sat nav, don't change gear enough to worry about quickshifter's, maybe one day but im well happy with my old 22plate😊
Great review as always Chops.. that bike really suits you dude :) very nice..
Reminds me of the Dr 750 i had many years ago. In blue and white.. That was a good bike. And yes i think the Weestrom is underrated, but Suzuki knows how to make a good bike..Back in the days DE stood for Desert Expres. the stickers sat on each side of the beak..
really good review, I like the way you had the camera watching the suspension travel, and as you are a bigger bloke shall we say, the bike didn't get close to bottoming-out. Good bike.
There is a trade off with the footpegs that all reviews overlook. Ive been riding the 1050XT for near a year and the footpeg position allows you to sit with two foot positions when sitting. 1. On your toes likes sport bike and 2. On your heals for cruising. So on the long open road to switch it up with foot position makes a long ride comfortable.
Very good point 👍
I'm on my second V1K (have put more than 15K on them) and the footpegs are positioned best for riding, not stopping. And you get used to it right away. Would much rather have them located where they are for the riding comfort benefit.
@@allwheeldrive I swapped my pegs to the adjustable Suzuki Vstrom ones and they are excellent.
Good old Suzuki building affordable, easy to live with reliable motorcycles that are 95% of the boutique brands that charge double.
Not exactly an affordable bike here in Canada. This bike is over TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!! That's ridiculous! Certainly NOT affordable. My 2006 DL1000 was affordable.
that was well-edited, the music made me laugh. looks like a great bike. you can really tell you really enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it Steve and thanks 👍
I would also go for the yellow one Chopsie but speaking from experience don't park it next to trees in the summer, it is very attractive to aphids and flies and wasps. Best country in the world, only ever ridden small hire bikes there. Another fantastic use of half an hour
I'll have mine in yellow, please! I mean, a Suzuki "dirtbike" has got to be Champion Yellow, now doesn't it?
The beautiful blue is called pearl vigor blue. My favorite color on any bike, former or present. Picking up a '24 black 1050 DE in a few hours. I'll change the tank cowling to the blue version. About $375 us dollars well worth it imo. Will look nicely with all the black.
Love that yellow.
Awesome video 👍
Beautiful intro music chopsy, put me on a Greek island sipping ouzos and coke..😭 oh good review too, thanks bro 😅👍
Great video I want one 😆
As an older 5’7” midget, I feel intimidated by big adventure bikes and their lofty seat heights. Fact is I’ve never ridden one. The last bike I rode with 19” wheels was my 1975 Norton Commando. But I was probably 5’8” back then 😉
I'm 5'8" and my first V1K was too high for anything but tip-toes when stopped. But, found it easy to slide a bit to one side when coming to a stop which allowed one foot to be flat on the ground. Once you feel where the center of gravity is on just about any bike, it's not that big a deal. Check this out: czcams.com/video/zYp1zXyc0fA/video.html
@@allwheeldrive thanks, she’s amazing!
Bruce, I’m 5’8” and it hasn’t stopped me from owning a Tiger1200, a ridiculously tall R1200GSA, A DL650 and a sport se (tall seat version) R1200RS. It’s a confidence issue thing. You can adjust to any of these bikes. I have a 31 inch inseam and have not had any issues at all.
What no wheelies off road ,
Enjoyed your review of both machines 👍
Watched chopsys reviews on mt10 and bought one and absolutely love it a hooligan of a machine I'm now after a v strom.....incoming.
Maybe some of the feel in the difference in handling is due to the conditions, with snow on the road and colder temperature confidence levels have to suffer, would be interesting to see a b2b in the UK when the weather improves.
Want it!!
Tell you what, I don't half fancy a DE in yellow, on a set of 17's and sticky rubber.
Wouldn't quite be a hypermotard Dorsudoro or KTM SM-T , but it would be fun, I assume.
I've got an '18 XT. Swapped the wires for alloys, put new springs f&r, got top-notch Michelin Road 6s, and put on sintered pads. Honestly, this thing is a blast to ride. You can really cook in the mountains. With that motor and the commanding riding position, there's not much it can't do, even keeping up with some pretty capable sport bikes.
I've ridden to Greece twice. Amazing journey
From Portsmouth, Greece is only about 600miles away...if you use the ferries correctly!
@@williamrae9954 Maybe but you would miss out on a great ride
@@stonkerontheroad9609 Missing out the crap bits,like the motorways of northern Europe...get off a ferry in Santander, lovely ride over mountains to Barcelona, ferry to Civitavecchia, nice run down to Bari,followed by another relaxing day on a ferry...Greece, Northern Turkey, the Black Sea,wherever awaits, and not worn out just getting there...I've done most of those boats,way to go(take on a wee carry out from a supermarket before boarding, beers in the sun)!
Hello John, sorry I haven’t been commenting on your videos the last few months, I have just given a thumbs up to them all . I have watched and enjoyed all of them great variety of content. Do you know why on the new Guzzi why the more expensive version has the black wheels when the standard one has the gold wheels, on the original press release it was the other way round.
Thanks Simon, people have mentioned it's because the gold clashes with the ohlins gold 🤷♂️
Nice one. Prefer the blue one though. 👍
Great review, tnx.
Seriously considering getting one for touring Europe.
Though I'm no Enduro type of rider I'd like to be able to go on gravel.
How do you think the DE 1050 would fair on say Dunlop TrailMax, or similar, tyres and the conditions they are build for?
Thanks chops, good review. Any sign of the transalp 750 being ready for review? I sat on it at the NEC and liked it. Would be interesting to see a comparison.
No Transalp yet but Hornet here for a test 👍
oh Chopsie you are slowly coming around to the Adventure bike ! I reckon 2024 there will be one in your garage. Don't give us I don'ty do the miles.
Yeah I could be tempted for some milr munching 😆
i find same problem with footpegs in the way on the ktm super adventure s and the triumph tiger 1200 gt
Would love a comparo with the new V-Strom 800DE. As an owner of a 2018XT (in yellow) I’m conflicted!
Great video as usual. Did you get any impression of the capability of the combined brakes? I guess some would be driven to the road based version given the front on the DE is tubed and can't be plugged on the go.
For the conditions I used the rear most of the time which isn't combined. Only the front brings in the rear when pulled hard 👍
@@LambChopRides cool, same as the Tiger 1200 so.
I own a 2020 vstrom 1050 and love it ,ex harley guy
Back in 1993 I bought a brand spanking new DR800
I think at my advanced age I’m ready to get a new DE but not sure if black or blue 😅😅
BTW the gear shifter is adjustable it’s not a ‘one size fits all’ 😝😝
Yes it was adjusted by the Suzuki team before I set-off. Its a different setup on the DE
Does it pull and sound like an Africa Twin though Mr Chops? Cause on paper it does, but fell verry short from the claims on paper when I rode them previous versions side by side.
Lovely review as allways.
I've not spent that long on an African Twin and not for a few years... I need to do another comparison now! 👍
@@LambChopRides Ohoooo, looking forward to see that. For my 6'5",115kg frame haven't found anything more suitable then the Atas. Frame rust was a serious issue for both of them unfortunately, wich is why after 2 Atas-s I would really like to find something better. So far no luck...
Loving the colours, even the road version, just the screen that spoils the looks, but Trail de Couvert have the solution for that....oh,and 'Dusty Bin' on the side there,he also has to go! I'd prefer a Suzuki for longterm reliability, over the Honda,we all know how bad their electrics are? Would like to see the footage of the 'off',from the tester on the other vid,to see how the bike faired falling over?
Looks like a good bike, how you think it compares to the Tenere T7? The T7 lacks a bit of grunt for road but is so good off.
It really depends how much and how hard your offroad riding is going to be! T7 will be superior offroad of course. But road riding will be better on the DE. I've unfortunately not spent much time on the T7 as Yamaha have been rubbish getting bikes to me, so hard to say 👍
The 21" wheel is something we've been asking for for years.
The tube-type tires are something that we got away from years ago, and will never go back.
What on earth is Suzuki thinking??
Offroad...is what they were thinking, dent a rim, a tubed tyre gets you home!
@@williamrae9954 You can put a tube on a tubeless rim. Problem solved.
People need to stop making excuses for manufacturers cutting costs.
@@lcdubs7847 Bart Factory will seal any spoked rim,making it tubeless
It would look good in Rush hour traffic in Manila Philippines, not so good in the backdrop of the Champs Elysees Paris. Euro 6 will be interesting for that bike when it happens, Kenworth size exhaust a possibility. No doubt legendary Suzuki reliability and value for money
how does it compare to the 2023 africa twin mate ?
Good bike. But then I used to like the original DR Big. Haha!
Will you be doing a ride on the road bike back in England when the roads and weather are better? I say roads which is unlikely they'll get better but you know what I mean.
Not Sure Simon, will certainly do a comparison of the Africa Twin vs this though
IMO they should have given it at least 200mm of suspension travel
Very nice review. Interesting you liked it as much as you did because the journos have been pretty much slating them. Overall it's getting 5 or 6 / 10 from them. Seems decent enough to me but Suzuki appear to have cut a few unnecessary corners on fit & finish etc. For example having to retrospectively pay, albeit not much, to fit the screen adjuster on the DE seems a bit annoying & frankly stingy. Although I'm sure being Suzuki you could probably convince them to chuck it in at no charge, but you shouldn't have to imo. Looks like the Africa Twin could be stiff competition, I think a comparison is in order Chops. : )
Yes absolutely need a new comparison now!
Those adventure helmet 'peaks'
Why -
What changes the moment an adventure bike appears?
Haha, great in the setting sun!
Having rode adventure / enduro bikes without a peak its a nightmare with water and mud of the road. A massive must have!
Love this de version, how's it with pillion? Does heated grips /center stand come as standard?
Put Oxford heated grips on, factory ones are never worth the cash...centre stand standard
Looks a pukka bit of kit 👍
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Chopsy, Κάνε την εισαγωγή. That's roll the intro in Greek. 😁
efharisto poli for that🙂
Haha brilliant 👏
@@LambChopRides Great video again Chopsy and as I said to Richy Vida, you two need to collaborate on a video sometime soon. 👍
I'm looking at buying a new V-strom 1050. Here in Sweden right now I can get a "brand new" 2021 1050XT for about 12.000 euros. And a DE would be about 16-17.000 euros. I'm 203cm or 6'9" and very heavy. Would the XT be a good fit or should I put up the extra dough for a DE? I will most likely not drive gravel or offroad much. I had an 2008 V-strom last summer and I liked a lot, but it was ever so slightly too small. And with 68.000km it wasn't in very good condition...
Yeah with the 21' it will fit you better but that's alot more isn't it... tough one
Same here...I was going to wait a year and buy a 800DE, once any faults are ironed out,and accessories are made, but my mate just bought a Honda ATAS(24litre tank one), so the Yamaha 700 is getting sold, and I'm probably getting a '22 1050XT for £9995, which is a similar price to yours....challenge is the shed about 40kg,under 200kg dry....doable, given what the specialists have done?
You know? I’d rather buy one of these in the road trim than a gs then use the change to buy a 790 for off road work. You’d probably do that for less than the price of any overweight over priced big adv bikes.
The one thing though I can’t see past with the newer DE800 bike is it’s 230kg. Why would anyone buy one over a DL1050?
What’s it like compared to a Desert X?
Yeah interesting one.. feels heavier obviously but maybe bit more road focused I think..
Vstrom, Africa Twin , Super Tenere , comparison test video .
Certainly AT vs DE to come 👍
Super Tenere stopped coming to the UK in 2021...the last new ones were o the shop floor when I bought my 700 in October '21
Just over 1,000 kilometres from Greece back to the UK. 😂. That’s basically Melbourne to Sydney (if you choose the direct route with mainly freeways) with another 3,450 kilometres or so until you reach the top of the east coast of Australia. That’s a road trip. 👍😎🇦🇺
Would be a hell of a trip!! 😎
It’s 3750km from Athens to where I live in the U.K. by a direct route. I drove it last week. Plus, a further 800kms on two ferries (my trip started in Crete)
On the way down it was 5000km, as in Europe you have a historic landmark or scenic view every few miles that’s worth stopping to look at 😉 🇬🇧 >🇬🇷 > 🇬🇧 👍
@@67mooncat My point was more about being able to do that in just one country. From one side to the other is almost London to Moscow as the crow flys. To travel all the way round you’d need to take a year off to do it properly as as my retired parents who recently did it in about the same time. 😊
@@marcusgeorge1825 yup, some places are huge. I worked in Russia for a while on Sakhalin island. One end of Russia to the other is an 11 hours or so flight!!!
With the V-Strom 800 about to come out I can't imagine too many will commit to this until they can compare them both...
Why the moaners won't get C/C and tubeless tyres on the 800, Suzuki is keeping that for the long leggers
So have Suzuki got rid of the 650 version? That would be a shame if they have because I would find this bike too big to hustle around town or off-road at 5'8.
Hmm not sure Andrew don't think so..
There is V strom 800DE too...with all new 776cc 270° parallel twin engine
I believe they are still going to make the 650 alongside the 800
@@marksimpson5218 That's good because that 800 I recall now is pretty darn expensive. The 650 is physically big and powerful enough for most riders.
Why the front wheel looks TUBED ??? - because it IS tubed ??
An extra 10 cm of travel?
Is DE tubeless?
50/50.. rear is, front isn't.. yeah bit odd
@Lamb Chop Rides most of my punctures have been on the rear. If not all of them
Oh, c'mon, once someone set the wind screen in position, will not change it on the next ride!
I wonder it’s got a top heavy feel like the Africa twin. If it doesn’t might really consider this
As an owner of a "regular" 1050XT and commuting on it everyday in packed traffic and lane splitting at slow speed in tight spots, it is not top heavy at all, and surprisingly very nimble.
It is my first ADV/heavy bike, so I can't really compare, but way, WAY easier to ride than I thought it would be.
Suzuki just loves to lag behind the competition by at least 5 years. When it comes to looks it more like 10 years. :D
Still running in 10yrs, while the flashy ones ain't..the difference
880mm seat height haha not for me
"Fatty Spec" preload 😂
Funny how this bike is always labelled as overlooked when it isn’t people try them then try others in class and realise that these are a bit shite 😂
Blue yellow and white, it looks horrendous 😕
Did it cause any female’s panties to drop? Kind of important tbh
Am I the only one who would let the looks stop them from owning one? Or am I just a tart 😬
Nope, if I don't like the look of it, I won't buy one.
I think that's normal.
Yup, it looks bland, cheap and outdated. The usual Suzuki.
Looks nice, especially compared to the original vstrom.
@@eggbod it's not hard to look better than the original vstrom though is it?! That was even uglier.
@@Szlejer this is true, I don't know what Suzuki are doing. The new gsxs1000 naked and GT have been bludgeoned out of the same hideous stone too. They almost look toy like they're that plasticy and cheap looking.
So Basically, it's a cheap n cheerful BagO,Shyte .