Another A+ Performer: WOW All City 11
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In this video we go over the Way of Wade All City 11.
This is yet another great hoop shoe from Li-Ning & Way of Wade: the cushioning setup with full-length Boom feels fantastic on feet, and transition was one of the smoothest of all time. Traction needs some breaking in, but performance on a clean court would be amazing and the outsole is durable enough for outdoor use. I went half a size up as usual for the fit, and that’s what I would recommend.
Let me know your thoughts on the WOW All City 11 in the comments!
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Thoughts on the All City 11?
I havent played in my black/pink pair yet but they are comfortable and smooth. Hopefully the traction is better than the 808 ultra with the translucent outsole
@@darrellgarcia2124 👍👍 Oh yup much better traction than that Oxygen colorway I have lol and very smooth indeed!
Sucks that the translucent outsole turned people off on the 808. My solid rubber ultras are so much fun to play in.
I just got them, had a short training session with these on. They are really comfortable, cushion is amazing and they fit true to size.
Waiting patiently until I break them in. I probably won't play in them until traction gets better, cuz the courts I usually play on are very dusty. (on clean courts they work perfectly)
Loving them so far 😬
Does the lateral TPU in your pair shows any signs of coming apart? I've seen some reviews about that certain issue.
Li Ning - specifically Way of Wade has been KILLING it in terms of bringing out some bangers 2022-now. The fact that it’s giving you such a headache on choosing which is the best one is nothing short of giving the company its flowers for how much it’s been producing absolute amazing performers! Thanks for all the reviews Tommy!!!
Yess. Appreciate your comment Andrew! Off to more fun sneaker explorations together haha. Cheers 🙏😃
My broken ankle just won’t heal- so watching your reviews are bittersweet. Super impressed by your upload frequency and really liking the way of wade reviews
Thank you! Hope you get back on the court soon man, but also don’t rush the recovery, lots of good shoes awaiting 😆😆
My ankle has taken 8 months to recover and it drove me insane! I’m praying for you but please don’t turn into a bad man like me!!! 8 months man….. 8 months!
@@erikfearn4472 you really have to start doing some dynamic weight on that ankle/strengthen it with bands and rehab. It is possible to require surgery for a torn ankle. I hope you get better soon, last year I was out for about 10 months because I got my hips replaced and shoulder redone. It’s awful, good luck
Tommy is on team no sleep! You're a machine my guy. Pumping out quality and quantity in your videos!
Haha appreciate you as always! 🫡🫡
It's not easy but hoping to cop a WOW 10 this 2023🙏thank you for the update ser Tom 👍👌🇵🇭 keep safe and God bless ♥️🙏
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Li Ning and Way Of Wade has been really killing it since last year with their performance models.
Got my pair of these and my WOW 10 lows about a week ago... loving them both!! They're my top shoes in the rotation now!
Awesome review! Your vids are great and really helpful. I wear adidas speed wrap ankle supports, would you suggest a half size up?
Yes
In Terms of Forefoot Width and shape between these all city 11s and the All city 10 V2 which one is wider in the forefoot? And which has better cushion ? Thanks for the Vid !
These have slightly better cushioning to me and with the fit - it’s really about the same. And thank you!
@@TommyLiu4 thank you this helps a lot !🤝
@@christopheryt2009 🙏🤝
thanks for the solid reviews like always. i got a question. i recently got shodow4 true size, it was somewhat uncomfortable at first, but with little breakin time it got to a point where it was playable. so my question is how much different do ac11 and wow10 fit(sizing) compared to shadow? if they are similar im probably choosing half size up.
🙏🙏 WOW 10 fits exactly the same like the Shadow 4, but the All City 11 has a wider base and gives you more space inside especially around the midfoot so it’ll be more comfortable if you choose the same size. But either way I think half size up may be better for you in Way of Wade shoes in general.
@@TommyLiu4 so true for ac11 and halfsizeup for wow10. thanks man
A comparison between these and the translucent outsole version would be amazing. There's a lot of conflicting reviews between the two different outsoles 🙏🏻
I'm stuck between this colorway and the "sunrise" because they utilize different outsoles.
The laces are ribbed, which prevents the laces from loosening when tightened.
Watching this review has prompted me to buy a pair too. Love the content.
That makes sense, I never thought of it that way actually lol I guess it does serve some function over regular flat laces then. Thank you!!
@TommyLiu4 haha these type of laces are found in the Vaporfly as well, which was why I was able to identify them. Can't wait to hoop in them! I got the green colorway.
Thanks to your content, I have a better understanding of which outdoor hoop shoes to look out for. Keep em coming!
@@ykthunderous2361 Nice! Appreciate your input 🙏🙏
Good day sir,Way of Wade is the best,GOD bless sir🙏
So I've been watching all your reviews and have been trying on different shoes for the past 3 weeks and have come to 3 different shoes to choose from.
I'll be using the shoes for volleyball and want impact protection but also enjoy a slim fitting explosive shoe style.
Which would you say fits the most for a 150lbs explosive high jumping playstyle:
-ac 11
-808 2 ultra v2
-puma mb02
Thanks again your reviews have helped alot
🙏 Appreciate you watching! Probably MB.02 😊
@@TommyLiu4 the best. Thanks man
I copped the blossom colourway on these! Excited to play in them but I had a minor wrist sprain so I have to take the week off at least..
Nice. I really like that colorway too!
Waiting on mine in the mail. Lookin forward to hoopin in these.
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Could you compare the length of these to TRC blazecourt? I have a wide foot and i usually wear a size 9.5 and sometimes the length of some shoes is too much for me. I find the fit of trc to be perfect for me length wise.
could you do an update on the traction after breaking it in? will you also do a review on the liren sharp edge 3? I've heard it's good but I don't know any English youtubers who've reviewed it
Yup I’m keeping an eye out for a pair! Will do a video if I get them 👌😃
could you also mention what the variations of the liren 3s are (difference with the v2 and v1) if you happen to know and where to buy the liren 3s? I'm located in Canada as well but sketched out by taobao/alibaba for bball shoes
@@jebronify As far as I know the V2 is basically just a low top? But I’m really not sure since I don’t have them yet, probably going for the V2 myself. I’ve bought multiple pairs from Taobao, as long as you buy from the brand’s official web stores and make sure you check the seller rating and reviews, should be good 😃 Nowadays I just buy a batch from China, and have them shipped over together without the box to save a little bit…
yesiiiiiir 😤
Hi Tommy! Thanks for making this amazing review! I have an All City 11 and I really love using it. Its super comfortable on my feet and I like the cusioning, step and comfort. I'm wondering what other shoes you can recommend with similar/better step and comfort as well as cusion. The reason I'm asking is because I have plantar faciitis and I dont feel soreness when playing on this shoes! More power to your channel!
Hello 😃 Thank you!! From Li-Ning I’d say the Liren III V2, from Nike the GT Hustle 2 is amazing, just started playing in them and they are incredibly comfy.
@@TommyLiu4 Thanks for the suggestions! I've already looked into Liren III. I'm interested with it but its kinda a bit pricey for me. I'll try to check out the GT Hustle 2 to see if it fits my needs! Thanks again and more power to you!
Hi again@@TommyLiu4, I saw your other videos indicating that you consider son of flash as one of your top 3 lining wow shoes. How does the cusion, step and comfort compare to the Ac11s and 808 3 ultras? Thans again :)
AC 11 comapre with AC 10 V2 witch shoe is wide mid feet friendly and good for heavy weight player thanks bro
They’re the exact same width, and same weight too. From my experience the 11 has slightly better cushioning and compression, while the 10 V2 traction performed a little bit better.
@@TommyLiu4 anything else in same price range that better that AC11 in term of wide mid foot and heavy weight player
@@keetaza100 Court Rider 2.0, 808 2 Regular, Dame 8
Never had a pair of Linings but I might have to grab a pair
Can you do a vid ranking all li-ning shoes ?
Like I said in the video, that is extremely difficult cause it really just comes down to personal preference and your budget 😅 I’ll always try to answer comparison questions though thanks.
Great basketball sneakers! Been using it for two weeks now.
Nice! 👍👍
I just received mine and did a mid-level ball run over the weekend. I do a ton of running myself
I can back up everything you said. This shoe is amazing. Im a Wide footer and have some pain on my pinky toe bone today but it may just be because it's my first game in a while
What are similar shoes that are wide feet friendly? Was thinking about the Curry 10s but Im not sure
Nice! 👍🤝 Curry 10 isn’t wide foot friendly unfortunately, other than these the 808 2 regular version is very wide foot friendly. And then also shoes like the Dame 8 & Court Rider 2.0 are amazing for wide feet.
@@TommyLiu4 was kinda wishing youd mentioned the WOW 10 lows
Of the choices you sent I may be down for the 808s although Im not sold on the design. Adidas shoes just never worked for me and I cant find the Pumas on sale (Im also from Toronto)
Hey,
I’ve never bought a way of wade. Thinking about buying a pair. Out of all the shoes they’ve released so far; which one do you think is the best? My favorite shoe of all time is the Kobe 8. Im just wondering which shoe from way of wade I should get because they’ve released so many shoes!
Hey man. Overall performance wise, the WOW 10 is still the best to me. But factored in the pricing and affordability, my favorite is the Son of Flash now. 😃 Honestly their recent models are all fantastic, I think you’ll like them.
@@TommyLiu4 thanks!
All of the WOW shows seem great what do you think is the best WOW shoe
Overall performance wise I still think it’s the WOW 10. But factoring in the price point and look, the Son of Flash has become my favorite 😃
@@TommyLiu4 I’m waiting on more colorways of the wow10 lows. They feel like they were custom made for me.
@@TommyLiu4 so son of flash over shadow 4
@@st0rmboi534 yes
@@TommyLiu4 WOW 10 best high top of Li-Ning and son of flash best low top of Li-Ning
All City 11 or New balance two way v3 or curry 10 which is the best performer?
TWO WXY V3
@Tommy Liu thank you, I had such high hopes for the Curry 10s but on a dusty court I was sliding and it felt inconsistent. I have picked up a couple pairs of the two way v3 on sale right now at sport chek and I am very excited to try them in games. Been only using the lebron 20s and wow 10s but to find a good performer that is a good price is very nice to know!
Good content as always! Will you do a review of the Liren 3v2
Yup coming up 😃
And thanks!
in ur opinion, what's the best Li-Ning outdoor hoop shoes? in terms of durability and cushion
808 2 Ultra
Hey Tommy!
Me and my parents are trying to find shoes for this upcoming aau season,any suggestions?
Were going for shoes in 50-150 price range light on the feet and generic questions(they can be colorful though)
Hey! Umm so many good options since that price range is pretty open. These, Son of Flash, PG 6 (if you can still find it), New Balance TWO WXY V3 & Puma MB.02 would be some of the best options.
Hi my size in adidas is 9.5. Whats size i will use for this brand? Or stay true to 9.5?
Hows the traction today bro? Most especially on dusty courts? Did it improve? and is it different with the translucent soles?
Yes it did get much better, but on a dusty court, shoes like the Son of Flash for example still has better traction. I don’t have any other colorway so I’m not sure how the translucent outsole differs sorry man.
@@TommyLiu4 No prob bro. Im just really into the Ac11s im just hesitant towards the traction on dusty courts coz mostly of the courts here are dusty and a bit wary towards the upper materials for longevity
I would prefer a snug fit. Would you still recommend to go a half size higher?
In that case you can go true to size, cause these are wide foot friendly already. 😃
Wish a got this colorway instead of my sunrise one. I just like the silhouette and some special touches to it but been enjoying playing with my pair anyway. Low to ground feel, top tier traction, cushion is nice. I'd say AC11 performs well than my Wade 808 2 in my opinion. Wow 10 still the best of them all tho.
Yup I agree with everything you said 😃🤝 WOW 10 is still the best, these might edge the 808 2 by a little bit. But honestly all great shoes.
@@TommyLiu4 yeah Li-Ning is really killing it, might try the son the flash pretty soon 🔥
@@kurtrusselllope1207 👍👍
how was the length for you going half size up?
I'm still debating if i should go TTS or half size up. I have the jordan 36 that i went half size up and theyre a too big
so my tts is 10 and with the 36 i went with a 10.5 and i have a thumbs width of length
Length was right on for me going half size up in the All City 11. I went TTS with the Jordan 36 and it was a perfect fit, for a reference 😃
which do you prefer sir, ac11 or speed 9 premium? which of them has better cushion and materials?
All City 11
Tommy if i am size 11 us 45eu in nike, i can get size 11 us all city 11 or 12us all city 11??
11
is it just me? I have to keep on switching up volume to hear what he is saying??
good impact protection compared to the lebron 20?
Which one wins in terms of traction, bounciness and stability all city 11 or son of flash?
Son of Flash. But both are S tier shoes and differences are razor thin… Son of Flash traction was amazing on all types of settings.
@@TommyLiu4 thank you for the fast response that puts the son of flash even further ahead imop since they also look way better than the all city even though thats subjective
@@akaStevex3 I’m with you on that 😃 I love the look and the flash design, had a lot of people ask me what they were actually. Hope they can drop more colorways too.
Good day Tommy!! Ur thoughts on AC 10 V2 vs AC 11? I'm confused what to cop
Hello. I’d probably lean towards the All City 10 V2 for slightly better traction based on my experience. Both good and very similar so no bad pick here. 😃
@@TommyLiu4 how about 808 2 V2? what should i pick AC10 V2 OR 808 2 V2?
@@johneuritolentino6828 All City 10 V2
Hey man - do you ever find the back part of the shoe digging into your achilles?
Hey man. Not from my experience.
for heavy forward players with widefeet, especially in forefoot, which is better ac 11 or 10v2? Or should we look somewhere else?
They’re both fantastic. Very similar too so no bad choice here - the 11 has slightly better cushioning and compression while the 10 V2 has a tiny bit better traction from my experience.
read some reviews online that some experienced that the midfoot is tight and the lateral side presses that caused your feet to shift inwards (feet eversion) have u felt this?
Ur reviews are big help as we can’t try and fit these in stores. We appreciate your hardwork bro! 💪
@@erestain17 Nope not really, but that’s from my experience. It may depend on your foot shape too but I think lateral containment is great on these. And thank you so much! 🙏🤝
yooo can u try the nike flyby mid 3? i have seen other vids of it but I haven't really seen anyone test it yet. thank you!
I’ll see what I can do, but passed on them many times already. Thanks
Hi bro .do the ac11 collect dust quick and have bad traction overall? Im planning (sunrise colorway) to cop these but worried about the traction..
Hey. Traction isn’t bad, decent.
@@TommyLiu4 thanks..
Hey, I need your help with something. This might take a bit weird, but I’m currently in the 7th grade and have never played sports. I’ve been thinking of wanting to play basketball. This situation is a lil odd. Beginning of the current school year, I didn’t participate in gym where the other kids were playing basketball. Now, I feel embarrassed to just come in out of nowhere + I’m inexperienced. I don’t really think I can just go to the gym to improve on my game, because I am still quite young. I just needed help deciding on what to do. I bought the Kyrie low 5’s because of you, but haven’t actually hooped in them yet because I haven’t built the courage. Hope you can help me, thank you!
Hey. I would say don’t worry about fitting in with other kids or anything and just go out there and have fun! To be honest I started basketball around 7th grade too, before that I mostly played volleyball. I may have not been a good player at all but I had lots of fun all these years, and if you don’t start you may never know if it’s the sport for you or not. Who knows maybe you won’t like it, but worth trying at least - those Kyrie’s are a good start too 😃
I loved them besides traction deff not a outdoor sneaker
tommy i have a question my foot seems to be growing bc with nike shoes 9.5 is a little tight but a 10 has space in the toebox, what size should i stick with?
Same thing is happening to me right now haha. It's on a shoe bt shoe basis, but I think having a shoe that's too tight will cause more issues than having a shoe that has a little bit of space.
I think getting the bigger size would be better cause it’s too small there’s nothing you can do about it but if it’s too big you can always double sock. Especially since you said your feet are growing still 😃
@@TommyLiu4 since WOW are known for going half size up should i get a 10.5?
I’m pretty confuse because Foot doctor zach’s review video on these he said for medium foot type we should go true to size, and i’m size 9 wwith my pg6. And my tre to size is 8.5, so i went up 0.5 for my pg6 from my anta kt 6low and it fits me perfect. So what should i consider here, true to size which is 8.5 or 9, and my pg6 nike’s size fits me perfectly so should i just keep it at 9? I’ve changed my mind from the son of flash to this because on famuji sneaker’s page (a popular page for overseas brands, and i saw the all city 11 is now 100 dollars which is a steal for full boom cushioning. Love your videos mann😊
Yeah size 9. Thanks man, cheers! 🙏😃
which is wider? The 11s or 10s?
About the same width
@@TommyLiu4 Thanks! Love your content!
@@jiyasu9914 Thank you!! 🙏
My foot long 27.5 cm and wide 10.7 cm. I wear PG5 / PG6 size US 10.5 for snugfit. Could you suggest AC11 size for me, please?
11
Hi! Ac11, Ac10, or shadow 4? Both Ac10 and shadow 4 are on sale right now, so it got me thinking...
Looking for cushion and traction (knowing that it will need some break in time)
Hello. That’s where they differentiate a little bit - the 11 has slightly better softness and compression, but the 10’s traction performed a tiny bit better for me. Both great 😃 It depends on which aspect is more important to you I guess.
@@TommyLiu4 thanks for the quick response!
Did the traction in the Ac11 get better after breaking it in?
@@nickiscrochet5891 Yup it did.
Is the upper mesh durable? I feel like the glue will fall apart from the outsole
Mine is holding up so far, but you’re right from that particular aspect the Son of Flash and Fission 8’s uppers are better.
personally feel the black and pink midsole colour way looks better. how does the fit compare to the 808 2?
very similar fit as those, same size would be best imo 😃
Hey dude. I want to buy my next pair of li ning and i am stuck between the Liren 3v2 low and the All city 11. Lirens are more expensive but on paper they seem to be mostly the same shoe: tough rubber, full lenght boom, same caging. You are the only person who has tried them both. What would you advise me to do?
Hey. Liren 3 V2
@@TommyLiu4 thanks for taking the time to answer. Cheers
can you performance revierw on lining speed 8 premium
Which is better Boss tommy,wade 808 2 or wade All city 11?
Close but All City 11
What leg sleeve do you use
I usually wear either a knee pad or single leg compression pants from Amazon for like 12 bucks lol
Hi all. I am looking for an indoor mainly basketball shoe. I measure 9.2E (single E) and I bought the New Balance TWO WXY v3 size 10 in standard width (can’t find WIDE versions ANYWHERE). I went half size up to accommodate and they are still too tight and I don’t have EE feet!! They’re painful actually. Will they break in or should I move on?
As for the Way Of Wade Lineup, it seems like the All City’s or Son Of Flash would be good but they don’t make them in Wide. Do they fit wider than the NB Two Wxy??
Also, are there any actual US retailers for Way of Wade shoes?? Their website says they come from Hong Kong and I’d hate to order the wrong size and pay shipping return fees etc.
Thank you kindly.
Ac11 vs SOF?
which has better cushion, the WoW 10 low or this one?
WOW 10 is bouncier / more responsive. These feel more fluent and have softer compression.
Boss tommy may i ask if i am size 10 US EURO 44 in nike,is it ok/ does it fit to get size 10.5 US EURO 44 1/3 in LI NING D WADE ALL CITY 11?Thank you
Yes should be a good fit
nice video!!!
Thank you! 🙏
AC 11 or Son of Flash better in your opinion?
Son of Flash, but both great.
Should I go up half a size for these shoes?
Yeah
Hey tommy..im using 808 2 v2 size 10.5 US,what size should i go with ac11?
Hey, I wear the same size in those two. So 10.5 should be good 😃
@@TommyLiu4 Thank you tommy ❤️❤️
It looks like at this point I just have to try a pair of Way of Wade shoes... I love New Balance but their hoop options are scarse
is all city 11 feet for flat feet bro?thanks GBU
Yeah
AC 11 or 808 2?
Very close but I’d take the All City 11 for better cushioning & compression.
how do these compare to the lining speed 9 premium?
These are better overall to me - mainly bc of much better cushioning.
Wait.. what's that shoe @01:09? That looks cool I think.
That’s the Li-Ning Liren (Sharp Blade) 3 V2, I might be getting a pair of those! 😃
Better cushioning and lateral lockdown than the Way of Wade 10s??
No it’s not.
Lateral containment maybe but not better cushioning
@@TommyLiu4 interesting. Which would you recommend more? The way of Wade 10 or all city 11? I can decide on which one to get
@@thormolecules WOW 10
I have the same shoes from the vid and exact color way and after a month their already ripping in that net mesh. Maybe cuz everyone is stepping on them Ik not surr
Yeah I’m also feeling that this upper material isn’t the best over the long term.
hey tommy, can you play outdoor with these?
Hey. Yes, good rubber durability on these.
How to buy li ning worldwide?
Sir is it narrow if i get true to size?
Should be fine
李宁10我觉得比gtcut1要强好看！
AC 11 or harden vol 7? thanks
Harden Vol. 7
is better than gt cut2 ??
Umm to me yes.
I have a 4e feet. Should i go full size up? Or just ignore the shoe?
Don’t know sorry. If you give me one shoe that worked for you, I can perhaps tell you if these are up/down/same size.
@@TommyLiu4 i had a size 12 D Rose 6,
Size 13 D rose 7, size 12 Peak Taichi Flash 2.0, Size 12.5 Kobe 8
@@TommyLiu4 also a size 12 Puma Court Rider 2.0
@@rielax04 I think a size 12.5 would be the safe choice given those you mentioned.
@@TommyLiu4 dude, you're the only youtuber i know that cares dearly about their subscribers. Thank you so much man
sir is this better than dame certified?
also just to add in. I'm looking for a good budget pointguard shoe with good cushion as I had pain in heel after games with a kobe 6
Umm yes it is better than the Dame Certified I would say.
do you recommend it to play outside??
Yup the outsole is very durable. I’ve started using them outdoors.
@@TommyLiu4 thank you very much, im gonna buy it from peru (south america) I really like this shoe but what about the son of flash? Is it similar to the wow 11?
@@98590 Son of Flash is fantastic for outdoor use too. Fit wise they’re narrower than these, like the WOW 10.
How does these compare to the all city 10 v2?
Very similar performance wise, same fit, these had slightly better step in comfort from my experience.
@@TommyLiu4 are both good for wide foot?
@@dafuni5659 yes
How do you think if these compare to 808-2 ultra
All city 11 or gt cut 1?
GT Cut
Traction was a huge issue I had on these for sure, if you play on clean courts these are insanely good but even semi-dirty courts have me slipping like crazy
Yup similar experience from my end… I was slipping on ice the first time on a very dusty gym lol but it did get better over time.
I actually tried on a friend's pair in the same size, and feel like I felt the arch cut in too much, but then again, I have both wide and flat feet.
Also to add on to your Liren 3 comment, seriously is probably my favorite shoe out right now. Took the number one spot of my Lebron X Elite, when I thought the 808 Ultra V2s possibly would. Highly recommend them, especially since they have a low version now. I'm sure the WOW 10 will eventually come into my top 5 once I buy them, but have the Son of Flash on the way, and the Shadow 4s. I'm quite hyped! Li Ning has been on an absolute tear with both their regular and WOW line.
Nice! Glad to hear the Liren 3 is a good one, I should be getting my pair in soon too 😃 A lot of exciting releases ahead too hopefully Li-Ning & Way of Wade can keep it up.
How'd you buy the Liren in the US?
Did you just describe the shoes laces as underwear (lingerie) material? LOL.
Now that you mention I have to agree.
😆😆 I tried to phrase it differently but that was the first thing that came to mind…
it reminds me of patrick star
the laces and backtab is soo weird 😅
Yeah especially the laces lol
Great review, Tommy.
I am guessing you were born in a year of the rabbit 🐰?
Thank you!! Not me haha but someone special! 😁😁
@@TommyLiu4 👍
ac 11 vs speed 9 premium
All City 11
Please let stop hyping chinese brand that cost more than $100. We are just giving them reason to hike their price. No Chinese brand should be selling more than $100.
Why can’t Chinese brands sell above 100 bucks 😂 It’s our purchasing decisions to make as consumers, not worth -> don’t buy.
But I do think some Way of Wade pricing really needs to chill lol - like the WOW 10…
What are you talking about?
The tech in the WOW and Li Ning’s have equalled or surpassed what Nike and Adidas have to offer.
Most basketball shoes are manufactured in either China and Vietnam anyway.
As such, the quality of all the brands are about the same now.
Is it also good for forwards?is the heel lock down is excellent?
Yup should be good, decent lockdown.
This one or wow 808 ultra v2?
@@JayFlorbentekwatro I’d take these. But if you were to get the 808 2 Ultra get one of the solid rubber colorways.
Ty so much
Is the dame 8 or ac11 wider?
Dame 8