🤣😭😭😭This is foolishness ‼️ Senior citizen bridesmaids 🤣🤣😭 Ladies - stop waiting on these men! They don't want you! Move on to a man that really loves YOU for YOU! This is teaching the younger generation the wrong way to live. I stand by everything I typed.
Amen. I'm not sure if he has a daughter/s. But would he had been OK if men strung them along, for not 3-5 years, which is a little too long, but almost 30 years!
He made it all about himself. I did not hear him state how wonderful and beautiful she is, how she stood by him through the storms and incredible days. I really don’t know what to say.
And he almost fell over when kneeled down to present the ring. His lack if stamina was not because of age. Because he is not that old. It's his spiritual stupor. Because he is still not marrying her. He is marry for substance what she can give. It's not for sexual intercourse either its for what he does not have. But no woman can give a man in anything; Vice a versa. A man cannot receive anything unless he get it from heaven. God has to put to people together in an eternal uncompromising marriage. You not suppose to have been that close anyway until it was time to be married by God. It's a lot of deception in and around the Body of Christ. But the Holy Ghost and the Angels of God is cleaning the slate. I been around just about as long as Elder Jones. And I have seen these pastors, prophets, evangelists, apostles, and teachers continously, revoking God's will for them which is more plentiful that what they search for and fine.. then they deceive everyone with their old age that they are settling down this time and divorce is not inevitable. But maybe not divorce but what we all are looking at is an annulment taking place. My heart hurts; my spirit groans for the two souls that has been deceived, by the flesh, the world, and the devil. There is probably, a woman his age or age range who might be present with her female companions who God told them over 28 years ago that Elder Jones was her husband. But he did not want who God told him to marry. This is happening all over the Body of Christ and the world in every culture. We have spoiled God's purposes and plans for His family and now we are spoiled goods. Stop everyone and let God restore the years of the generations of families in a godly fashion. Amen!!!
He talked about all he was giving up. And then all she would have to put up with. Never once did he talk about the beautiful loving woman he would be getting. Wow
A true man of GOD would not act this way . Why would she be so desperate. A big price to pay . He said all over the Internet he was not going to marry her. He said he met her when he was going through a divorce & marriage was not on his mind. He said if she wanted to be married & knew his position it would seem she would find someone to marry her. He said he was not head over heels for her. Then after 28 yrs he brings out a ring from a Cracker Jack box & says he is going from a freedom coat to a straight jacket . A straight jacket means you are completely tied down . No movement. They both are mentally off . This is not of GOD .Lisa Ray was his first choice for Preachers of La & then at the last minute he brings in Loretta . Where are all the women he has been sleeping with for 28 yrs. He has not been faithful or committed to Loretta. His attorneys has paid off a lot of women to protect his ministry.
Every reason he stated about “should I” was based in himself and his own personal needs as a elderly man NEEDING someone to nurse him. Nothing about his love for her, wanting to take care of her or be an asset to her. Literally EVERYTHING in his proposal was about his needs. How embarrassing.
As if being a girlfriend for 28 years isn't embarrassing enough. This proposal is like a shrine to himself and a bid for a caregiver. ANCESTORS SLAP ME INTO NEXT WEEK IF I EVERRRRR!!!!
That’s what I heard too. A younger woman to take care of him. He never said he loved her or about their love over the years; sad. Well neither of them is going anywhere so might as well.
It hit me right before I read your comment too- he’s one of *those* men who waits till the near end of life to actually do right by a woman and settle down. Those are the absolute worst.
Idk y cause he is not that attractive to be obsessed with himself. Lord Jesus poor woman she just was in love I guess n desperate. His jokes was lame ASF! Ain't no way n my Aretha Franklin voice.
Yes. Like Gayle King said, “I don’t want to be a nurse or a purse.” This whole proposal was a hot mess. I want to find Loretta’s self esteem and deliver it directly to her.
Exactly, he too old To cheat and wonder, so now I will marry you, like she should be just glad to have him. I am Sick to my stomach and couldn’t watch the rest. Forgive me Lord, but this was the worse thing I have seen in church from a so-called leader.
This was suppose to be something to celebrate?! 😬 Black women are settling at an all time high and it’s not just young women. She done waited nearly THIRTY years for him to propose. This really speaks to black males and their limitless boyhood stage and only want to get right when they realize they will get old and die alone if they don’t find someone to sign up to be their caretaker-Oop I mean wife. 🙄
Hold on, hold on! When you say”black males” that throws an entire group into one category and that’s not fair. We are NOT all the same. My wife and I are young black people going on 3 years of marriage!
@T T You are not wrong about the trend, but might be misunderstanding the reasons it is occurring. The "Kevin Samuels" types have struck a cord with a growing sub group of Black men. (And for the record, it is happening in the White community too, but I will keep to the topic). While bachelor lifestyle might be a factor, the greater influence is fear. Men are being taught that marriage is a bad deal (high divorce rates, cheating, etc). When marriages break up, men are 2 times as likely to lose custody of children, and 4 times as likely to die from suicide. Women report unhappiness and a loss of identity in the marriage, whereas men report a loss of identity after it ends. He feels broken from losing his role of "husband," whereas women say they feel "free" from being burdened as "wife." With the divorce rate at 50% and with 70-80% of all divorces being filed by women, men are becoming increasingly cautious. The trend towards avoiding marriage is about more than being in "pimp mode" or perpetual boyhood/ never growing up. It's about analyzing risk. More and more, guys are saying it's not worth it; which is actually sad to me. Marriage can be a beautiful thing with the right partner. When two people genuinely know how to lean on God and elevate each other to be their best, it makes for a Holy union. Neither men or women are being taught truly healthy models of marriage.
@T T Great conversation. I'll address some of your thoughts. Let me start with a place of agreement. I think women ARE at risk in marriage. As I stated above, women are reporting a high degree of unhappiness and they are filing almost 3/4ths of all divorces. Something about marriage isn't working for them. Now the reasons why they are feeling so unfulfilled is a matter of huge debate. Often both sexes end up blaming some perceived shortcoming in the other. She might say, "men are too immature." He might say, "women are just too emotional and never satisfied." Both sides are reevaluating the risk/ reward, but guys are the ones actively avoiding it. Since women are socialized to prize marriage (with some ladies saying they dreamed about their wedding day from the time they were little girls), then it's actually women who are hurt by men opting out. Women are the ones who feel "passed over" for marriage. Second, I think we need to define misogynistic. I disagree that BM as a whole fit that description. But, I do think it s a growing trend and is probably more prevalent among guys under 35. Again, with the rise of various CZcams commentators and podcasts, younger men are being fed a steady diet of negative ideas about marriage (and women in general). I would define the dominant culture of BM as traditional/ conservative when it comes to relationships.
God my Father in Heaven, I pray I never fall for a man like this or receive a proposal so awful. I pray that the man you have for me, looks at me with deep love and affection and is truly the bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh. Please keep me away from all narcissists and egomaniacs. In Jesus name I have prayed. Amen and Amen.
I personally don't understand how this man has a whole church following him!! And Miss Loretta must have given up, shrugged them shoulders and said, "well I waited this long I might as well do it..." Chil' pray for her because she blocked her own blessings by hanging on to that disaster.😔
I pray this same prayer over my life in Jesus... Also I pray that the strong hold of a settle mindset be delivered from every single woman. That they will know their worth. In Jesus name Amen
She deserved a more loving proposal. She deserved to be celebrated. She deserved for him to brag on all the wonderful things about her. She deserved for him to tell the world what she adds to his life. She deserved more than a cracker jack box. 28 yrs Fathers, teach your daughters what they're worth.
I’m sorry but why did she deserve better than that she’s the dummy that stayed by a man whose job it is to promote godly unions i.e. marriage and would not give her the benefit of being his spouse for nearly 30 years! She knew what it was at least 10 years ago and she’s probably glad she got what she got as narcissistic as he is I’m surprise it’s happening at all
He said it. Should I have to push myself around in a wheel chair? Should I have to deal with a grumpy old man without someone else to take my frustrations out on? He made it clear! lol
I'm jus disappointed in him as a man & pastor. He's been dealing & traveling w/her all this time- is now concerned w/how it looks? He's given dudes a Greenwich from the pulpit that this is ok...smh And to then say, "give up his freedom jacket for a straight jacket?" Really???
They didn’t travel together. She was hidden . He was picking up women at the churches he preaches at until Covid stepped in. He has been isolated at home . He said he was not going to marry her. No one else wants him.
This is sooooo sad! As a man who knows God's word on covenant relationships, why would he diminish her worth by PUBLICLY stating all of the negative reasons he should not get married??? What is going on with church leaders??? Foolishness!!
This is so wrong, for this man to lay up with her for 25 years!!! That disclaimer he gave was a disgrace to her. Is this what pastors do now. WOW!!! His testimony was a mess. This is no joke he disrespected her for 25 year and still doing it. He took all her youth.
There are true Leaders of God who preach the true word of God and who do not openly commit sin like this man. He is a disgrace to Christians, to the gospel and most of all to God. Hell is real and these Leaders better get on their knees and repent before God!
This was 100% awful. How terrible of a proposal. I feel like I’ve lost all respect for him. I don’t think I can ever watch his ministry again. That spoke volumes about who he is as a person. I have never ever listened to rumors or things other people knew about him. But in this video he told on himself regarding what kind of person he is. Just awful.
The entourage embraced longer than they did… God help them, and heal us all from soul wounds and soul traumas that cause us to not only accept this behavior (on both sides) as normal, but to celebrate it. My heart aches for her more than him because his pattern is set, hers is a conditioned response. God please shower Ms. Loretta and the Bishop with grace and mercy and bless them with The Spirit of Counsel, Wisdom and Understanding. Heal them individually and collectively. You said where 2 or 3 are gathered together, there You are in the midst of them. Father, be that all consuming fire with their midst. Set ablaze a new fresh fire upon the altar of their hearts that quenches and nullifies every self-centered work, every fear, all shame, pride, self doubt, rejection, insecurity, inferiority, fear of abandonment, loneliness, anxiety and weakness, every spirit God that isn’t like you, destroy their altars, false images and strange fires of perversions, idolatry leviathan, Jezebel and constrictions be returned to the pit of hell in the name of Jesus. As repentance and a turning and shifting towards Your will is being made, Heal the land God. For Your namesake! For Your Glory God! For Your Honor Jesus!! Teach them what they are to desire and to expect from the healing and nurture that comes from You and Your presence so that they are not left bewildered in seeking that which they cannot get from each other in the name of Jesus. And bless their beginning Father, though it be small, it’s more than what I have. You said to despise not the day of small beginnings. So I bless them to win at love, to win at honoring each other, to win at upholding each other and to win at keeping You at the center of their union in Jesus name. God please honor my heart and please honor my prayer in the mighty name of Yeshua Ha’Mashiach 🙏
God won't bless sin. When has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
@@theprettythriftymusicteach5130 Has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This women stayed with him this long because she had a point to prove, to all the other women that disrespected her, said that he would NEVER marry her, and all the women she had to wait in line behind. Now that she had the ring, "if you want to call it that", the moment after they say I do...Her heart is going to grow cold. And will finally see what we all saw for years.
There's no guarantee that he'll actually marry her, though. Men, who don't intend to marry their long-time girlfriends, give them rings so they can stop asking...
Wait! So you're saying she hung in there being a girlfriend for 28 years so she can prove to others he will eventually marry her. Omg! I just can't today. Nonsense. LOL!
Is this the grand prize for waiting on a proposal over twenty years? She seems like the sweetest most manipulated women ever. Never did he mention his love for her just all his needs and sacrifices. God bless her for her patience and naive spirit! She deserves better.
God doesn't bless sin. If you believe differently then when has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This is not of God. This is shameful. Jesus let the remnant shine soon. This man been a player for almost 30 years now, he wants to get married cause he may need someone to wipe his butt. A man who loves his lady shouts it out to the world. All this lame player did was talk about himself....smh....not once about how beautiful is she. He more worried about being control. He wack and those we support this mess are wack as well.
Couldn't get through this video, his arrogance was overpowering. I really hope for her sake, that God was in the midst of this proposal and His Glory will be revealed. There is definitely a lesson to be learned here. Hopefully it teaches women that the right man will know right away if she's the one. No one should have to wait all of those years. I can't imagine what this woman endured. God bless her.
This is sooo disrespectful in every way. This lady obviously loves him and he has strung her along for years. He gave this elongated speech on how much he is giving up when she has been putting up with his foolishness way too long. He should have got up here and apologized for taking so long then gave her a beautiful proposal. What a disgusting situation. Shame on him and I don’t believe the Lord is pleased with this mess. This is why people think marriage is a game . Smh 🙏🏽
I agree . This is so sad on so many levels . A strong woman of GOD would never have gotten involved with him. There are so many women he has been sleeping with got 28 yrs while Loretta has been hidden. She has no respect for herself & neither does Noel . An example of what not to do or what to allow . The Bible says you will know a tree by its fruit . There you go people ..
I'm glad that he finally did the right thing, he knew that she loved him with all her heart and he took advantage of that. She is a beautiful woman and she could have been married to another Bishop, Pastor or a regular godly man but she wanted him. I glad that she's happy now, because she cried many days and nights worrying if it would ever happen....Your faith was strong Loretta God bless you 🙌🏽🙏🏽
I don't understand why she did that to herself and the people in the church are congratulating them. They've been fornicating for 28 years. What's wrong with you people 😕
@Prophetess Paula Sidney right sis. This sends a sad message to women and there are many that will accept this. Just think about what she gave up for him all those years and you know she wasn't the only woman he was dealing with.
wrong advise!! a proposal doesnt dertemine how a marriage will be ,a proposal is a promise ,a wedding is a celebration but marriage is the reality having a fancy ,romantic proposal doesnt guarantee you a happy marriage !!!
@@martinsimelane1058 no it doesn't but marrying someone who doesn't appear to value his gift and acting like he's doing her a favor is definitely concerning.
So I didn’t hear not one line about should I marry her because I love her? He wants someone to take care of him. It sure would suck to waste the best years of your life only to get his worst!
Sad! Just sad!! Laying precedence to men and women of his congregation on how to waste someone’s life. Dear Lord father God, please never let me experience this type of foolishness from a man. Amen!
If there is anything to be learned here it is that women should love themselves more than this. Teach your children that they are worth more than validation from anyone. This is sad in so many ways. Did anyone hear him ask for security? I guess he thought there would be some unhappy women in the crowd. The sad part is, he's probably right. I wish she had loved herself 28:years ago.
Teach your kids that trust and friendship is more important. Not just all that he tickles my ears. They trust each other. Don't hear nobody talking about that !
Rewind 30+ years ago when I was a young saint at the Apostolic Church of God, Chicago hearing an Elder, by the name of Noel Jones preach a sermon, titled, The Gift Represents the Giver. I'll never forget that sermon. I have no more comments. The Gift Represents the Giver.
He was an awesome preacher back then, wasn't he? I was raised Apostolic in the P.A.W He was anointed and was so deep in the word. This is so disappointing.
@@Votethepower he sure was. I'm not saying he is not now a great preacher. This proposal, simply, in my opinion, is wack! But she seems pleased with it.
I watched this video and learned from the comments section this "Christian" couple have been dating/in a relationship for over 20 years (please correct me if I am wrong). As a Christian I wanted to know TRUTH/God's counsel/heart on this matter so I sought God about it. I believe the Holy Spirit came back to me with this answer: "That (meaning two Christian singles dating/being in a relationship for 20 plus years and NOW deciding to get married.) is NOT a direction "GOD" would give to ANYONE. People use GOD'S PULPIT to bring forth "ERROR" and it has been done in this case ." People of God be "vigilant" to what you accept into your ears, eyes and heart gates as TRUTH. Blessings in Jesus Name ALONE!!! Praying for this couple and Church. ❤🙏🕊✝️🙏❤
I hope that they were "waiting" in CELIBACY, (purity in their minds, hearts and bodies) and if so where is that testimony to GLORIFY God? That would speak volumes and draw man unto Jesus Christ. May TRUTH reign in their lives and in their Church.❤🙏✝️🙏❤
You're correct! When has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This is very sickening. It's all about him. More than likely they were sleeping together. What man you know is with a woman for nearly 30 years doesn't want to become intimate with her if he truly loves her? I guess he is trying to do what is right since he has been living in sin for so long. Then pulling out a cracker jacks box. That made it even more ridiculous. He's old and needs someone to take care of him in his old age. Talking about giving up his freedom. Come on man, you're in your seventys. How much freedom do you need? Please ladies don't be so desperate. It's okay to wait on a man to marry you or wait until God bless you. But it doesn't make sense to allow any man to string you along for almost 30 years. He didn't even say he looked her not one time. So sad. Learn from the foolishness.
“Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 23:1-2 KJV
Amen for when has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This was hard to watch. It was sad, pathetic, cringey. I feel so sorry for that woman. How can you stand there and make distasteful jokes after stringing her along for 28 years? Haven't you had enough of a laugh? Smh. I wish her well but she could've done so much better. I do not understand the appeal of this man that she held on for so long. Sheesh! And now he's marrying her because he's feeling his mortality. 🙅🏾♀️🚩
He better pray this doesn’t turn into Diary of a Mad Black Woman. He literally just sat the stage for her to show him how these 28 years made her feel.
He knows noone else but Loretta will put up with his ego and treat him exactly the way he has trained/conditioned her to indulge him🤷🏾♀️...while we yet are blessed with life its never too late to start living right☝🏾 Bless her heart she loves him & he knows she respects him & is committed to him. girlfriend for 30yrs 🤦🏾♀️......wow
I remember watching LA preachers when I was in middle school. Now almost 20 years later, Bishop finally asked this woman. He waited until his life is almost over before marrying her. Wow! I am happy Loretta got the last name and ring but Lord knows this man should’ve asked her to marry him over 20 years ago. She was a good woman then and she A patient woman now. Amen.
These leaders in the church definitely need to be held accountable for how they handle romantic relationships as well. A lot of pride and arrogance here, hope they’re both willing to die to their flesh and make sacrifices cause that’s what kingdom marriage is all about!
You better preach it . There is no holiness in what he preaches . This is a joke . Cracker Jack ring . 28 yrs . He has been unfaithful to her & will again . He is no prize at all ..
Probably one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Who's to say they'll be married anytime soon though? Thousands of people following him. Lord open their eyes please ❤️
Wake up supposed to be Christian folk. What does the word of God say to us about marriage? How you allow a "Bishop" to be a hippocrit to teach you. You can't be in your feelings about someone and look over what they do, just because you love them. God holds pastors to a higher standard of righteousness in order to teach, so....how can he teach me about fornication and marriage according to the Lord?
I just love how he talked about his undying love for her, how she's been and continues to be such a blessing in his life, and how he has truly found his "good thing" in her being his forever love.💕 Oh wait, that's what she probably heard him say, or _wished he had said,_ instead of that PITIFUL marriage proposal!🙄 Even "Bro Man" on _Martin_ could've made a better proposal!😆
It took Bishop Jones 27 years to make a major life decision & ask Loretta 2 marry him? 😮 This is truly an excellent example that u have 2 "teach" people how 2 treat u. She allowed it, tolerated it, etc. so she is the one 2 deal with it. 😌
We got to stop endorsing foolishness!!! This is only opening too many of the wrong doors. I completely disagree with this, the wait and the announcement!!! You all used up and NOW want to do right!!! BYE A LONG TIME AGO!!!
This is awful. This entire proposal was entirely self centered and everything was “Should I, do I…”. I would have politely told him no thank you and sat back in my pew.
Its about time... I remember the show he was on with other Christian leaders . I thought he was selfish regarding his actions towards her. He knew she was a ride or die but had her lingering because he was "too busy" .... I wish y'all have an amazing marriage 👩🏾🤝👨🏿
I feel bad for Loretta. People get married for all kinds of reasons. The Bishop obviously is marrying to get a caregiver. This is a jacked- up proposal! I hope that Noel’s sister Grace told her brother that this was an insult. So when is the wedding? You’re engaged when you have a ring and date. 👎🏾
Their age isn’t an issue. Older people get married ALL of the time. Age doesn’t exempt one from wanting a spouse. My issue with this this is that he basically expressed in his sad and sorry “ proposal “ is that he Really Doesn’t want to give up his Single lifestyle, what he wants is someone to take care of him because he’s getting up in age. Not once did I hear him say he loved her. Not once did he even Imply that he prayed and God told him that this lady was his wife. According to that speech his motivation for marriage is to have a caretaker.🙄🙄🙄
This is the most worthless, sad excuse for a marriage proposal that I have EVER seen or heard!! He had his back turned to her most of the time, and she was standing up smiling like she was waiting to receive a plaque or certificate!!🤦🏽♀️ Lord God, I pray that I would never… waste precious time with/accept an offer of marriage from any man who is as thoughtless and self-absorbed, as this man is! This lady looks beautiful but her self esteem and worth had to have been thrown away in a dumpster years ago. My heart hurts for her misguided happiness in this embarrassing moment.😭😭💔💔
What did I just witness?! Is this real… I’m not going to comment on the speech because enough has been said but to just walk away from her after she said yes was ENOUGH for me…💔
First OFF! Ms. Loretta's hat is fly! She really looks great! I pray God's will be done in her life. I pray that her desires align with God's will for her. I sincerely wish her the very best.💕 ...HE... AIN'T... IT!
The Devil is a liar!!! I’m not waiting 30 years on any man. This is a sad example for the body of Christ to witness!😢😢😢This is not the time to celebrate. Then the lack of seriousness and honor is really sad.😰😰😰😰😰😰
Good thing they remove the dislike numbers. Because I expect that many many people disliked this trash proposal. She deserves better, and as a "leader" of the people he should have set a better example. Just terrible.
....well the only good example I can see in this is, she demonstrates what love and faithfulness is. "I love you and there is nothing you can do about it" that's her right there.
Why is the church applauding almost 30 years of a questionnable relationship. Can two people really date for almost 30 years without any form of intimacy.....hhhmmm🤔. This lady deserves so much better. I feel so sorry for her. It appears as though this man is trying to secure companionship and 24 hours care as he progresses in his senior years. This is so sad and exploitive.
Here is the link of The Wedding Ceremony of Bishop Noel Jones and Mrs Loretta Jones June 4, 2022 czcams.com/video/nR4UR30LBtg/video.html
Yes! I'm next in line!
Its my turn? I believe I receive now
He didn’t say ONE word about her.
Well it's never too late if God sends you the right mate.
I wish you a happy marriage 💕💕❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
🤣😭😭😭This is foolishness ‼️ Senior citizen bridesmaids 🤣🤣😭 Ladies - stop waiting on these men! They don't want you! Move on to a man that really loves YOU for YOU! This is teaching the younger generation the wrong way to live. I stand by everything I typed.
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Amen. I'm not sure if he has a daughter/s. But would he had been OK if men strung them along, for not 3-5 years, which is a little too long, but almost 30 years!
He made it all about himself. I did not hear him state how wonderful and beautiful she is, how she stood by him through the storms and incredible days. I really don’t know what to say.
Eew. Say eew.
That was sad
You are so right
Right! Seriously!
They came with a cracker jack box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡ The upside down exclamation points are necessary 😡
She wasted 28 years of her life for a proposal like this. My heart aches for her
And he almost fell over when kneeled down to present the ring. His lack if stamina was not because of age. Because he is not that old. It's his spiritual stupor. Because he is still not marrying her. He is marry for substance what she can give. It's not for sexual intercourse either its for what he does not have. But no woman can give a man in anything; Vice a versa. A man cannot receive anything unless he get it from heaven. God has to put to people together in an eternal uncompromising marriage. You not suppose to have been that close anyway until it was time to be married by God. It's a lot of deception in and around the Body of Christ. But the Holy Ghost and the Angels of God is cleaning the slate. I been around just about as long as Elder Jones. And I have seen these pastors, prophets, evangelists, apostles, and teachers continously, revoking God's will for them which is more plentiful that what they search for and fine.. then they deceive everyone with their old age that they are settling down this time and divorce is not inevitable. But maybe not divorce but what we all are looking at is an annulment taking place. My heart hurts; my spirit groans for the two souls that has been deceived, by the flesh, the world, and the devil. There is probably, a woman his age or age range who might be present with her female companions who God told them over 28 years ago that Elder Jones was her husband. But he did not want who God told him to marry. This is happening all over the Body of Christ and the world in every culture. We have spoiled God's purposes and plans for His family and now we are spoiled goods. Stop everyone and let God restore the years of the generations of families in a godly fashion. Amen!!!
@@deehen9844 don't hate
It's not like she had options
@richard wright Dee Told ZERO LIES..THIS WAS HORRIBLE
LMAO
He talked about all he was giving up. And then all she would have to put up with. Never once did he talk about the beautiful loving woman he would be getting. Wow
Right. She's crazy for real 😳
A true man of GOD would not act this way . Why would she be so desperate. A big price to pay . He said all over the Internet he was not going to marry her. He said he met her when he was going through a divorce & marriage was not on his mind. He said if she wanted to be married & knew his position it would seem she would find someone to marry her. He said he was not head over heels for her. Then after 28 yrs he brings out a ring from a Cracker Jack box & says he is going from a freedom coat to a straight jacket . A straight jacket means you are completely tied down . No movement. They both are mentally off . This is not of GOD .Lisa Ray was his first choice for Preachers of La & then at the last minute he brings in Loretta . Where are all the women he has been sleeping with for 28 yrs. He has not been faithful or committed to Loretta. His attorneys has paid off a lot of women to protect his ministry.
Nothing about her , his love for her . Nothing 😞
Actually marriage is about letting go self.
Right! Nothing about what she meant to him allllll these years or anything.
Every reason he stated about “should I” was based in himself and his own personal needs as a elderly man NEEDING someone to nurse him. Nothing about his love for her, wanting to take care of her or be an asset to her. Literally EVERYTHING in his proposal was about his needs.
How embarrassing.
Thank you!! Exactly!! I'm waiting to be cherished not to be a nurse!
So true.
Exactly.What an example for the community Smh
Your exactly right
I saw this and thought the exact same thing!!!
She deserves better than this foolishness
May the Lord and my ancestors give me the strength to never be this desperate!!! 😭😭😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 right
So true!
AMEN
Evaaaa!!!!
As if being a girlfriend for 28 years isn't embarrassing enough. This proposal is like a shrine to himself and a bid for a caregiver. ANCESTORS SLAP ME INTO NEXT WEEK IF I EVERRRRR!!!!
That’s what I heard too. A younger woman to take care of him. He never said he loved her or about their love over the years; sad. Well neither of them is going anywhere so might as well.
😂😂😂So true!
🤣🤣💯🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣
😂
It hit me right before I read your comment too- he’s one of *those* men who waits till the near end of life to actually do right by a woman and settle down. Those are the absolute worst.
A LOVER OF HIMSELF ❗️💯
EXACTLY😫
Period
not true, hes a ggod man
This was exhausting. At least he acknowledged that he's obsessed with himself.
He knows who he is...as does she. 28yrs is a commitment. Marriage is their formality
Idk y cause he is not that attractive to be obsessed with himself. Lord Jesus poor woman she just was in love I guess n desperate. His jokes was lame ASF! Ain't no way n my Aretha Franklin voice.
He’s 72, he waited waaaaaaay to long. He should have gotten married years ago! He wants a caregiver, not a wife.
Bloop
Yes. Like Gayle King said, “I don’t want to be a nurse or a purse.” This whole proposal was a hot mess. I want to find Loretta’s self esteem and deliver it directly to her.
Amen!
Loretta will not be his first wife. His first wife is Ruth, the mother of his children.
At 72 he is all used up.
She's been with him nearly 30 years? This might be the most self-centered proposal I've ever seen 🤦🏾♀️
Exactly... All about HIM
No doubt about it
Arrogant SOB
AND IT IS!!! Ha ha ha (like on Tiktok)
Fa real tho'😫
He waited until his old and not wanting to die alone to decided he wanted to get married. 20yrs!!!!!!!!!! She did not know her worth at all.
I think he’s sick honestly
@@allthingzdani1985 that honestly came to mind for me too. That might be the only reason he did this.
Twenty eight! 😱
Giving her the last of his years and being so proud. He can keep it. He played her
Keep all that!!@
He absolutely did & she played herself too for allowing it
She played herself. Sadly.
Sure did. Why I left my relationship after 7 years I looked like a fool.
Exactly, he too old
To cheat and wonder, so now I will marry you, like she should be just glad to have him. I am
Sick to my stomach and couldn’t watch the rest. Forgive me Lord, but this was the worse thing I have seen in church from a so-called leader.
How humiliating. That mo fo ain’t said nothing bout I love her.
🤭 you said mofo 🙈😂
This was suppose to be something to celebrate?! 😬 Black women are settling at an all time high and it’s not just young women. She done waited nearly THIRTY years for him to propose. This really speaks to black males and their limitless boyhood stage and only want to get right when they realize they will get old and die alone if they don’t find someone to sign up to be their caretaker-Oop I mean wife. 🙄
Hold on, hold on! When you say”black males” that throws an entire group into one category and that’s not fair. We are NOT all the same.
My wife and I are young black people going on 3 years of marriage!
That part
This just one black man though.
@T T You are not wrong about the trend, but might be misunderstanding the reasons it is occurring. The "Kevin Samuels" types have struck a cord with a growing sub group of Black men. (And for the record, it is happening in the White community too, but I will keep to the topic).
While bachelor lifestyle might be a factor, the greater influence is fear. Men are being taught that marriage is a bad deal (high divorce rates, cheating, etc). When marriages break up, men are 2 times as likely to lose custody of children, and 4 times as likely to die from suicide. Women report unhappiness and a loss of identity in the marriage, whereas men report a loss of identity after it ends. He feels broken from losing his role of "husband," whereas women say they feel "free" from being burdened as "wife." With the divorce rate at 50% and with 70-80% of all divorces being filed by women, men are becoming increasingly cautious. The trend towards avoiding marriage is about more than being in "pimp mode" or perpetual boyhood/ never growing up. It's about analyzing risk. More and more, guys are saying it's not worth it; which is actually sad to me.
Marriage can be a beautiful thing with the right partner. When two people genuinely know how to lean on God and elevate each other to be their best, it makes for a Holy union. Neither men or women are being taught truly healthy models of marriage.
@T T Great conversation. I'll address some of your thoughts. Let me start with a place of agreement. I think women ARE at risk in marriage. As I stated above, women are reporting a high degree of unhappiness and they are filing almost 3/4ths of all divorces. Something about marriage isn't working for them. Now the reasons why they are feeling so unfulfilled is a matter of huge debate. Often both sexes end up blaming some perceived shortcoming in the other. She might say, "men are too immature." He might say, "women are just too emotional and never satisfied." Both sides are reevaluating the risk/ reward, but guys are the ones actively avoiding it. Since women are socialized to prize marriage (with some ladies saying they dreamed about their wedding day from the time they were little girls), then it's actually women who are hurt by men opting out. Women are the ones who feel "passed over" for marriage.
Second, I think we need to define misogynistic. I disagree that BM as a whole fit that description. But, I do think it s a growing trend and is probably more prevalent among guys under 35. Again, with the rise of various CZcams commentators and podcasts, younger men are being fed a steady diet of negative ideas about marriage (and women in general). I would define the dominant culture of BM as traditional/ conservative when it comes to relationships.
God my Father in Heaven, I pray I never fall for a man like this or receive a proposal so awful. I pray that the man you have for me, looks at me with deep love and affection and is truly the bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh. Please keep me away from all narcissists and egomaniacs. In Jesus name I have prayed. Amen and Amen.
Same and Amen🙏🏽
Well said because shiiiiiiiiiddddddd this is ridiculous.
I personally don't understand how this man has a whole church following him!! And Miss Loretta must have given up, shrugged them shoulders and said, "well I waited this long I might as well do it..." Chil' pray for her because she blocked her own blessings by hanging on to that disaster.😔
Amen 🙏🏾
I pray this same prayer over my life in Jesus... Also I pray that the strong hold of a settle mindset be delivered from every single woman. That they will know their worth. In Jesus name Amen
She deserved a more loving proposal. She deserved to be celebrated. She deserved for him to brag on all the wonderful things about her. She deserved for him to tell the world what she adds to his life. She deserved more than a cracker jack box. 28 yrs
Fathers, teach your daughters what they're worth.
Nah
Yes
I’m sorry but why did she deserve better than that she’s the dummy that stayed by a man whose job it is to promote godly unions i.e. marriage and would not give her the benefit of being his spouse for nearly 30 years! She knew what it was at least 10 years ago and she’s probably glad she got what she got as narcissistic as he is I’m surprise it’s happening at all
I could not agree more
Please
This is the saddest proposal I have ever seen. Nothing about what he would gain from a beautiful union.
That’s because he doesn’t gain anything.
He made it all about himself!
Just awful
He said it. Should I have to push myself around in a wheel chair? Should I have to deal with a grumpy old man without someone else to take my frustrations out on? He made it clear! lol
I don't want to speak against him. It is way too long to wait and way too much about himself.
I'm jus disappointed in him as a man & pastor. He's been dealing & traveling w/her all this time- is now concerned w/how it looks? He's given dudes a Greenwich from the pulpit that this is ok...smh And to then say, "give up his freedom jacket for a straight jacket?" Really???
They didn’t travel together. She was hidden . He was picking up women at the churches he preaches at until Covid stepped in. He has been isolated at home . He said he was not going to marry her. No one else wants him.
This is sooooo sad! As a man who knows God's word on covenant relationships, why would he diminish her worth by PUBLICLY stating all of the negative reasons he should not get married??? What is going on with church leaders??? Foolishness!!
Beautifully stated
This is so wrong, for this man to lay up with her for 25 years!!! That disclaimer he gave was a disgrace to her. Is this what pastors do now. WOW!!! His testimony was a mess. This is no joke he disrespected her for 25 year and still doing it. He took all her youth.
czcams.com/video/VLmIpG2L5Ys/video.html
check at 6:37 mins he said "probably"
Preachhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There are true Leaders of God who preach the true word of God and who do not openly commit sin like this man. He is a disgrace to Christians, to the gospel and most of all to God. Hell is real and these Leaders better get on their knees and repent before God!
28 chile
Huh? This is not a flex. He’s 72 and basically waited till death to propose to her. He made a mockery of her. Smh.
He sure did!
Exactly!!
Yep! And er dumb ass accepted it. She’s desperate as hell and should’ve said no! SMH
@@mzkenya3352 She probably begged him to marry her.
This was 100% awful. How terrible of a proposal. I feel like I’ve lost all respect for him. I don’t think I can ever watch his ministry again. That spoke volumes about who he is as a person.
I have never ever listened to rumors or things other people knew about him.
But in this video he told on himself regarding what kind of person he is. Just awful.
The entourage embraced longer than they did… God help them, and heal us all from soul wounds and soul traumas that cause us to not only accept this behavior (on both sides) as normal, but to celebrate it. My heart aches for her more than him because his pattern is set, hers is a conditioned response. God please shower Ms. Loretta and the Bishop with grace and mercy and bless them with The Spirit of Counsel, Wisdom and Understanding. Heal them individually and collectively. You said where 2 or 3 are gathered together, there You are in the midst of them. Father, be that all consuming fire with their midst. Set ablaze a new fresh fire upon the altar of their hearts that quenches and nullifies every self-centered work, every fear, all shame, pride, self doubt, rejection, insecurity, inferiority, fear of abandonment, loneliness, anxiety and weakness, every spirit God that isn’t like you, destroy their altars, false images and strange fires of perversions, idolatry leviathan, Jezebel and constrictions be returned to the pit of hell in the name of Jesus. As repentance and a turning and shifting towards Your will is being made, Heal the land God. For Your namesake! For Your Glory God! For Your Honor Jesus!! Teach them what they are to desire and to expect from the healing and nurture that comes from You and Your presence so that they are not left bewildered in seeking that which they cannot get from each other in the name of Jesus. And bless their beginning Father, though it be small, it’s more than what I have. You said to despise not the day of small beginnings. So I bless them to win at love, to win at honoring each other, to win at upholding each other and to win at keeping You at the center of their union in Jesus name. God please honor my heart and please honor my prayer in the mighty name of Yeshua Ha’Mashiach 🙏
In Jesus' name! I agree sister
That’s a darn shame and you call yourself a man of god. Then you walked off and left her standing there by herself
I agree with your prayer woman of God and stand in them gap for them with you. Amen!!!
God won't bless sin. When has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
@@theprettythriftymusicteach5130 Has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This women stayed with him this long because she had a point to prove, to all the other women that disrespected her, said that he would NEVER marry her, and all the women she had to wait in line behind. Now that she had the ring, "if you want to call it that", the moment after they say I do...Her heart is going to grow cold. And will finally see what we all saw for years.
I could see that!!
There's no guarantee that he'll actually marry her, though. Men, who don't intend to marry their long-time girlfriends, give them rings so they can stop asking...
Imagine wasting most of her life trying to prove some ridiculous point to people. Hot mess
Wait! So you're saying she hung in there being a girlfriend for 28 years so she can prove to others he will eventually marry her. Omg! I just can't today. Nonsense. LOL!
I am sure being his girlfriend was a blessing. I imagine she hung in there that long because she was well taken care of. oh and she loved him...bahaha
The most unromantic, self centered proposal ever recorded. Run Loretta!!
POOR EXAMPLE OF HOLINESS... YET THE BODY OF CHRIST JUST KEPT TURNING AN EAR TO SIN..GOD SEES ALL
I’m in shock, I think people are afraid of man more than they are of God, truly IDOLATRY 🤭😩
Is this the grand prize for waiting on a proposal over twenty years? She seems like the sweetest most manipulated women ever. Never did he mention his love for her just all his needs and sacrifices. God bless her for her patience and naive spirit! She deserves better.
Help Lord!
Dang may this NEVER be said of me!!
This is the worst proposal in the history of proposals. He had 28 years to get it right. Assignment. Failed. 😂😂😂
Like the saying goes, "Different strokes for different folks." Cause I don't think I would've held out that long..May God Bless their union
God doesn't bless sin. If you believe differently then when has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
This is not of God. This is shameful. Jesus let the remnant shine soon. This man been a player for almost 30 years now, he wants to get married cause he may need someone to wipe his butt. A man who loves his lady shouts it out to the world. All this lame player did was talk about himself....smh....not once about how beautiful is she. He more worried about being control. He wack and those we support this mess are wack as well.
Well said!
Couldn't get through this video, his arrogance was overpowering. I really hope for her sake, that God was in the midst of this proposal and His Glory will be revealed. There is definitely a lesson to be learned here. Hopefully it teaches women that the right man will know right away if she's the one. No one should have to wait all of those years. I can't imagine what this woman endured. God bless her.
Agreed
Truly ridiculous indeed. And not the right example to set for the men young or old under his tutelage
OOOHH KAREN GOT EAT A DONUT
I agree . I can’t believe she waited all these years for him to make up his mind. She definitely need some therapy.
VERY VERY ARROGANT 🥴... Yuck
This is sooo disrespectful in every way. This lady obviously loves him and he has strung her along for years.
He gave this elongated speech on how much he is giving up when she has been putting up with his foolishness way too long. He should have got up here and apologized for taking so long then gave her a beautiful proposal.
What a disgusting situation. Shame on him and I don’t believe the Lord is pleased with this mess.
This is why people think marriage is a game . Smh 🙏🏽
If I could like your comment a million times I would! You are 1000% correct.
I agree . This is so sad on so many levels . A strong woman of GOD would never have gotten involved with him. There are so many women he has been sleeping with got 28 yrs while Loretta has been hidden. She has no respect for herself & neither does Noel . An example of what not to do or what to allow . The Bible says you will know a tree by its fruit . There you go people ..
How does a Man with a Ferrari propose with a box of Cracker Jacks????!!!
It's their decision and business
He got money.. he’s a millionaire
Not 1 mention of love!
I'm glad that he finally did the right thing, he knew that she loved him with all her heart and he took advantage of that. She is a beautiful woman and she could have been married to another Bishop, Pastor or a regular godly man but she wanted him. I glad that she's happy now, because she cried many days and nights worrying if it would ever happen....Your faith was strong Loretta God bless you 🙌🏽🙏🏽
This proposal has gone waaayyy left........not impressed and sad all at the same time.
Oh please should you give up your freedom? Just say you getting older and you need a caregiver.
NO WAY IN HEAVEN WILL I WAIT ON A MAN A MAN OF GOD KNOWS HIS WIFE IMMEDIATELY DONT TAKE THAT LONG
I don't understand why she did that to herself and the people in the church are congratulating them. They've been fornicating for 28 years. What's wrong with you people 😕
Chiiiiiiile ☕️
Exactly!!
Exactly 💯
@Prophetess Paula Sidney right sis. This sends a sad message to women and there are many that will accept this. Just think about what she gave up for him all those years and you know she wasn't the only woman he was dealing with.
I agree ! He is not in love with her at all . Why would people go to his church ? God is exposing him & all the others like him
Loretta should run 🏃♀️ for her life this was the saddest proposal I've ever seen in my life.
27years ago.
@@change8048 that part!!! I remember on that reality show about the pastors… i felt sorry for her then.
We all make choices in life…
wrong advise!! a proposal doesnt dertemine how a marriage will be ,a proposal is a promise ,a wedding is a celebration but marriage is the reality having a fancy ,romantic proposal doesnt guarantee you a happy marriage !!!
@@martinsimelane1058 no it doesn't but marrying someone who doesn't appear to value his gift and acting like he's doing her a favor is definitely concerning.
So I didn’t hear not one line about should I marry her because I love her? He wants someone to take care of him. It sure would suck to waste the best years of your life only to get his worst!
Exactly.. so very sad.
Perfectly stated!
I agree. She is a beautiful woman.
Teresa, your comment has me dying.💀🤣🤣
That was a sorry proposal. I would have said he’ll naw.
Sad! Just sad!! Laying precedence to men and women of his congregation on how to waste someone’s life. Dear Lord father God, please never let me experience this type of foolishness from a man. Amen!
This is DISGUSTING and y’all let him pastor a church?!?! Throw the whole CHURCH away!!
That part!
12, 000 member church!
He loves her!
Yeah, he couldn't even look at her leading up to the proposal....his body language told us all that he's selfish and cocky.
Lord please have mercy
This comment had so much meaning without really saying it. You said it sister 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Ain’t no way I’m getting up in front of the whole church after getting jiggy with you for 28 years!! That’s embarrassing…
Girl you crazy because I'm embarrassed for you this definitely ain't it🤦🏼♀️
If there is anything to be learned here it is that women should love themselves more than this. Teach your children that they are worth more than validation from anyone. This is sad in so many ways. Did anyone hear him ask for security? I guess he thought there would be some unhappy women in the crowd. The sad part is, he's probably right. I wish she had loved herself 28:years ago.
I agree this was very hard to watch.
Ladies, Know your worth, and have to wait this long. Yahusha has a MAN, that treasures his Queen.
Teach your kids that trust and friendship is more important. Not just all that he tickles my ears. They trust each other. Don't hear nobody talking about that !
Rewind 30+ years ago when I was a young saint at the Apostolic Church of God, Chicago hearing an Elder, by the name of Noel Jones preach a sermon, titled, The Gift Represents the Giver. I'll never forget that sermon. I have no more comments.
The Gift Represents the Giver.
Wow! A word right there…
What a comment!!!
He was an awesome preacher back then, wasn't he? I was raised Apostolic in the P.A.W
He was anointed and was so deep in the word. This is so disappointing.
@@Votethepower he sure was. I'm not saying he is not now a great preacher. This proposal, simply, in my opinion, is wack! But she seems pleased with it.
You dropped the mike on that one…
He decided…that he needs a caregiver for his 70something year old man. LOL!
The 😥 engagement I ever seen.
That proposal was all about him. She better run. Was he drunk?
Absolutely 💯%.
This is so sad!!
I watched this video and learned from the comments section this "Christian" couple have been dating/in a relationship for over 20 years (please correct me if I am wrong). As a Christian I wanted to know TRUTH/God's counsel/heart on this matter so I sought God about it. I believe the Holy Spirit came back to me with this answer: "That (meaning two Christian singles dating/being in a relationship for 20 plus years and NOW deciding to get married.) is NOT a direction "GOD" would give to ANYONE. People use GOD'S PULPIT to bring forth "ERROR" and it has been done in this case ."
People of God be "vigilant" to what you accept into your ears, eyes and heart gates as TRUTH.
Blessings in Jesus Name ALONE!!! Praying for this couple and Church.
❤🙏🕊✝️🙏❤
Nuting done before it's time and God is a un time God
I hope that they were "waiting" in CELIBACY, (purity in their minds, hearts and bodies) and if so where is that testimony to GLORIFY God? That would speak volumes and draw man unto Jesus Christ. May TRUTH reign in their lives and in their Church.❤🙏✝️🙏❤
You're correct! When has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
@@jbt7224 He just said (0:52) that they held hands and related to each other ever Sunday. So humiliating.
Strong NO. Bless her ❤
You know I give him this: he’s open about what he goes through personally. He does shy away from his fears and insecurities.
This is very sickening. It's all about him. More than likely they were sleeping together. What man you know is with a woman for nearly 30 years doesn't want to become intimate with her if he truly loves her? I guess he is trying to do what is right since he has been living in sin for so long. Then pulling out a cracker jacks box. That made it even more ridiculous. He's old and needs someone to take care of him in his old age. Talking about giving up his freedom. Come on man, you're in your seventys. How much freedom do you need? Please ladies don't be so desperate. It's okay to wait on a man to marry you or wait until God bless you. But it doesn't make sense to allow any man to string you along for almost 30 years. He didn't even say he looked her not one time. So sad. Learn from the foolishness.
That was awful!! If a man ever proposed to me like this, he can go to h*ll IMMEDIATELY!! FOH! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
lol omg girl you got me rolling lol
LMBO!
😂😂😂🤭
OMG I just hollered at your comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Noel Jones has been publicly embarrassing Ms. Loretta for almost 3 decades
“Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.”
Jeremiah 23:1-2 KJV
Amen for when has God changed His word to accommodate sin? It is written (Matt.19:9) that a person who gets divorced will commit adultery in consummating a new marriage, except when adultery has preceded the divorce. In one case there is divorce followed by adultery. In the other case there is adultery followed by divorce. The Almighty God approves of neither, so unless Bishop Noel Jones and/or his first wife committed adultery, he cannot remarry without calling God and His word a lie. Satan is deceiving Bishop Jones. No amount of reasoning can make God's word right to divorce and remarry. Those who care about his soul and relationship with God must lift Bishop Jones up before Him that he truly acknowledges God's word and not commit this sin.
The congregants are very fond of their bishop. You have a family here Bishop. All the best for both of U.
I can’t see myself being so proud to marry a man after 28 years. I don’t know if this is incredibly special or just slow.
This was hard to watch. It was sad, pathetic, cringey. I feel so sorry for that woman. How can you stand there and make distasteful jokes after stringing her along for 28 years? Haven't you had enough of a laugh? Smh. I wish her well but she could've done so much better. I do not understand the appeal of this man that she held on for so long. Sheesh!
And now he's marrying her because he's feeling his mortality. 🙅🏾♀️🚩
Prov. 18:22 He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the LORD. We are the “good thing.” I am Speechless
mark 10:11 ¹2
Preach Woman of God preach👌🏽
He better pray this doesn’t turn into Diary of a Mad Black Woman. He literally just sat the stage for her to show him how these 28 years made her feel.
Was just thinking this! Watch it!
He knows noone else but Loretta will put up with his ego and treat him exactly the way he has trained/conditioned her to indulge him🤷🏾♀️...while we yet are blessed with life its never too late to start living right☝🏾
Bless her heart she loves him & he knows she respects him & is committed to him.
girlfriend for 30yrs 🤦🏾♀️......wow
I felt the second hand embarrassment from the screen 💀
This was ridiculous and he left her on the stage, so sad 😞 and embarrassing….
Trash. I hope she re-thinks and say no... actually HELL NO. this was the most arrogant proposal
By far the worst proposal ever! My opinion.
72 years old . He looks great
I remember watching LA preachers when I was in middle school. Now almost 20 years later, Bishop finally asked this woman. He waited until his life is almost over before marrying her. Wow! I am happy Loretta got the last name and ring but Lord knows this man should’ve asked her to marry him over 20 years ago. She was a good woman then and she A patient woman now. Amen.
Lol
These leaders in the church definitely need to be held accountable for how they handle romantic relationships as well. A lot of pride and arrogance here, hope they’re both willing to die to their flesh and make sacrifices cause that’s what kingdom marriage is all about!
You better preach it . There is no holiness in what he preaches . This is a joke . Cracker Jack ring . 28 yrs . He has been unfaithful to her & will again . He is no prize at all ..
Probably one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Who's to say they'll be married anytime soon though? Thousands of people following him. Lord open their eyes please ❤️
Facts cuz he's been stringing her along for 28 years 🤦🏾♀️😆
There open WIDE and their engagement ceremony today was blessed and beautiful. Thank you Lord for coming through for your servant.
He probably make her wait 28 more years for as we can see its just a proposal
@@Lady41C the devil is a lie. June 4, 2022. Trust GOD their wedding date.
Wake up supposed to be Christian folk. What does the word of God say to us about marriage? How you
allow a "Bishop" to be a hippocrit to teach you. You can't be in your feelings about someone and look over what they do, just because you love them. God holds pastors to a higher standard of righteousness in order to teach, so....how can he teach me about fornication and marriage according to the Lord?
This is not of GOD people
I just love how he talked about his undying love for her, how she's been and continues to be such a blessing in his life, and how he has truly found his "good thing" in her being his forever love.💕 Oh wait, that's what she probably heard him say, or _wished he had said,_ instead of that PITIFUL marriage proposal!🙄 Even "Bro Man" on _Martin_ could've made a better proposal!😆
It took Bishop Jones 27 years to make a major life decision & ask Loretta 2 marry him? 😮 This is truly an excellent example that u have 2 "teach" people how 2 treat u. She allowed it, tolerated it, etc. so she is the one 2 deal with it. 😌
I hope after Loretta reads this comments, her eyes open up and give back this old saggy fool his ring. ☹️☹️☹️
We got to stop endorsing foolishness!!! This is only opening too many of the wrong doors. I completely disagree with this, the wait and the announcement!!! You all used up and NOW want to do right!!! BYE A LONG TIME AGO!!!
This is awful. This entire proposal was entirely self centered and everything was “Should I, do I…”. I would have politely told him no thank you and sat back in my pew.
Such a disrespectful proposal, 💔💔💔
Its about time... I remember the show he was on with other Christian leaders . I thought he was selfish regarding his actions towards her. He knew she was a ride or die but had her lingering because he was "too busy" .... I wish y'all have an amazing marriage 👩🏾🤝👨🏿
I thought the requirements for being a bishop was to be married? This don’t look like love or God
It is about time. You see me when I travel. and when I rest at home. You know everything I do.Lord bless this couple
I feel bad for Loretta. People get married for all kinds of reasons. The Bishop obviously is marrying to get a caregiver. This is a jacked- up proposal! I hope that Noel’s sister Grace told her brother that this was an insult. So when is the wedding? You’re engaged when you have a ring and date. 👎🏾
This is my first time seeing her. She's beautiful! Congratulations to them both 💖
They were on Preachers of L.A together about 8 years ago it was a show on oxygen.
She is beautiful. Was on Preachers of LA years ago even more beautiful and spicy. I am shocked that she hung on so long.
He said “Should I give up my freedom coat for straight jacket” 😢😢😢
Their age isn’t an issue. Older people get married ALL of the time. Age doesn’t exempt one from wanting a spouse. My issue with this this is that he basically expressed in his sad and sorry “ proposal “ is that he Really Doesn’t want to give up his Single lifestyle, what he wants is someone to take care of him because he’s getting up in age. Not once did I hear him say he loved her. Not once did he even Imply that he prayed and God told him that this lady was his wife. According to that speech his motivation for marriage is to have a caretaker.🙄🙄🙄
This is the most worthless, sad excuse for a marriage proposal that I have EVER seen or heard!! He had his back turned to her most of the time, and she was standing up smiling like she was waiting to receive a plaque or certificate!!🤦🏽♀️
Lord God, I pray that I would never… waste precious time with/accept an offer of marriage from any man who is as thoughtless and self-absorbed, as this man is!
This lady looks beautiful but her self esteem and worth had to have been thrown away in a dumpster years ago. My heart hurts for her misguided happiness in this embarrassing moment.😭😭💔💔
He sounds crazy, it was all about him from the beginning. He still going to do what he want anyway..
What did I just witness?! Is this real… I’m not going to comment on the speech because enough has been said but to just walk away from her after she said yes was ENOUGH for me…💔
Thisssss
Exactly....I thought the same thing..very rude.
Oh my that is it
RIGHT!!! He gave the two ladies a longer and more sincere hug than he gave her. Gottt dawwwg she really want the Noel clout…g-us🤦🏽♀️
Say what now👀 I couldn’t watch til the end🤣🤣 let me go back & watch 🤦🏽♀️
First OFF! Ms. Loretta's hat is fly! She really looks great! I pray God's will be done in her life. I pray that her desires align with God's will for her. I sincerely wish her the very best.💕
...HE... AIN'T... IT!
The Devil is a liar!!! I’m not waiting 30 years on any man. This is a sad example for the body of Christ to witness!😢😢😢This is not the time to celebrate. Then the lack of seriousness and honor is really sad.😰😰😰😰😰😰
Good thing they remove the dislike numbers. Because I expect that many many people disliked this trash proposal. She deserves better, and as a "leader" of the people he should have set a better example. Just terrible.
....well the only good example I can see in this is, she demonstrates what love and faithfulness is. "I love you and there is nothing you can do about it" that's her right there.
Disgrace!!! Horrible example for young men.
We can all see through these preachers now.
Loretta deserved that. She waited long and hard for this.
Why is the church applauding almost 30 years of a questionnable relationship. Can two people really date for almost 30 years without any form of intimacy.....hhhmmm🤔. This lady deserves so much better. I feel so sorry for her. It appears as though this man is trying to secure companionship and 24 hours care as he progresses in his senior years. This is so sad and exploitive.