Dump the UV-5R and Get the GT-5R (
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- For years the Baofeng UV-5R has been maligned as non-compliant with FCC regulations and a real spreader of spurious emissions. Further, it would easily transmit outside the ham bands. Radioddity has stepped in with the GT-5R which is basically a UV-5R but with a compliant RF section. Further, it now only transmits on the ham bands. And, best of all, it's still available for only $27! See amzn.to/3lAhtyl (this URL helps support this channel) or at www.amazon.com/dp/B08VNM1CX4 (same link but from Radioddity. Note the radio bears the Baofeng name though the project was headed by Radioddity. Also please note that the price went up to $30 today.
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For those wanting to unlock the GT-5R, you can use CHIRP's UV-5R profile and change the "Duplex" columns entries from "off" to "none". Cheers.
Thanks. I'll dust mine off. Instead of sniping at the paperwork, think Casier ever talked on it??
@@HarryHamsterChannel Did it work? :)
Removing the restrictions is easier than that.
You can litterally hold three buttons while turning it on.
@@ghz24 I did this and as soon as I uploaded my frequencies to the gt5r, it went back into locked mode
@@Mogas0311 I haven't got my cable yet, just been programming by hand.
So you downloaded the image, modified it and uploaded it then it locked?
It will be another week before my cable comes. Any chance the downloaded image was from a locked radio?
I'll be trying to do the same I'll tell you how it goes.
I love my non compliant baofeng.
Ill have zero intention on giving it up.
ford is releasing a new car, its capped at 60mph so they cant speed! people in the driving community have been breaking the law for far too long!
Those that put emphasis on compliance suffer from erectile dysfunction.
Fact is, there is as much Superstition associated with this RF black magic as there is valid data around. Too many variables. If it works, love it.
thank you! if shit hits the fan they would wish they had those frequencies (red dawn)
I agree. I want the most useful radio. If you want to be compliant read the freaking frequency you are transmitting on. Next, he wants cars that do not go beyond 70 miles an hour!!
Passed General and Extra today!
Congrats! That's a lot more bandspace to play with
Congratulations!
Good job!
Congrats 👏 🥳🎉
@@davecasler I have to thank you for this. I studies with HamStudy but failed the general. I then watch your videos for both the General and Extra and passed them both. The General, I only missed 1. Thank you!
Nice to see that the GT-5R transmits a nice and clean signal. We will all benefit from that. Thanks for the clarification and testing.
Thanks for the review. Just starting off - was studying for the test (and was passing practice exams) then got distracted by NOAA sats where I dont need to transmit. But still want to learn more and get into armature radio. Didnt want to go all in with good (expensive) equipment so im currently only using Raspberry Pi w/ RTL-SDR and also a UV-5R. (and now maybe replacing UV with GT) Cant wait to check out some of your other videos as I start to study up again.
If on your UV-5R that transmits outside the Ham bands, you go to the duplex setting on your weather channel you can set it to "Off" and block out tx. I did that with my UV5Rs with the WX and public emergency channels 👍
its great to be able to listen on non ham bands though and in uk we also have potential non ham frequencies that are legal if you purchase a license. Also band plans can change so a radio that is not artificially limited to certain frequencies is much more future proof.
Hi David, great review! Ordered one to play with. Note there is no way the manufacturer will print "Amateur Radio license required" because that's just not true. You need a license to Transmit, but not to possess or to use to receive. But I get what you mean. Me too.
If the FCC said everything that can transmitte outside the ham bands can't be used for ham radio. That would make it illegal to use all the home made radios! That was the heart of ham radio for years! And I thought was still part of it!
You can build what you want, as long as you only transmit on the ham bands, and meets all the FCC requirements. But you cannot SELL a factory built radio that will transmit on anything but ham frequencies. No radio from Yaesu, Kenwood, or Kenwood, whether it is HF, VHF, or UHF, will transmit on anything but the ham bands. You cannot legally combine more than one radio service into one radio. The problem is not licensed amateurs, most of which are not likely to be transmitting illegally. It's all the UNlicensed people who buy these radios, because they are so cheap, and use them illegally.
@@geraldscott4302 you can but you have to list it for parts or repair
FCC will take away Christmas and thanksgiving if you cross them!! 😂.
Typ Gov overreach
Tested two new (purchased in the last month) UV-5Rs with the same analyzer you have and they looked pretty decent. Highest second harmonic was 53dB down from the fundamental. Not as clean as the GT-5R, but appears to at least follow guidelines.
I have owned 2 UV5Rs in the past say 2 1/2 years or so. I've had my ham license since 1992. Being of limited funding I haven't been able to own a spectrum analyzer to make sense of the "rumors" that they caused spurious emissions and chalked it up to "haters". This has shown me that they do in fact produce spurious emissions and will cease transmission from mine. Thank you Dave. You regularly produce truthful bunk-breaking, informative videos for us.
Carl
KB9HPM
You going to stop using led bulbs and toss out your microwave too?
Thanks for the showing of this GT-5R!! Love your clarifications and easy going plain-speak!!!
Thanks Dave this is great news for a newbe like myself that is on a budget! Love your videos. Thanks so much.
i got the starter kit with my uv5r and it came with a cable. it worked great and got a lot of extra stuff
Uncle Dave Kessler great video you've been making these videos for years I've been watching I just got back in the amateur radio and I am amazed of how far this company is going 30 years ago nobody could talk me into that radio but now they're actually making them better with more power and for big battery packs like 3800 milliamp I'm very impressed for the 21st 😂 thank you again always a pleasure watching your reviews you have a lot of technical background electronics and I value your opinion before listen to some others that aren't too bright I put it mildly 😎 73's and God bless you and your 🙏🏻
One caution on Chirp with the UV-5R type radios: as I understand it, when you download from one of them, you are getting the settings and perhaps some element of the firmware. If you then upload to a different radio, with different firmware, it can brick the radio. Not always, or even often, but sometimes.
Best practice is to download from radio A, download from radio B, select all the memories you want to copy on A's sheet, hit Ctrl-C, go to B's sheet, highlight the first row you want to overwrite, and hit Ctrl-V. Once you have the memories as you like, B's sheet to B. It takes a few extra seconds, but really isn't too bad.
Radioddity specifically told me to use the UV-5R setting. But your caution is well-placed.
The radio model setting is fine - there are a bunch of radios that use it. The issue is downloading from one physical radio and then uploading to a different one. That would be fine with another maker's radio, and I've even done it with Baofengs and cousins, but there is a chance of failure if you do it with two radios that have different firmware revisions.
This is a good point, because CHIRP seems to be uploading more than just a list of frequencies. It probably is the entire (or at least partial) firmware, with executable code and all.
I updated my TYT UV-8000d from CHIRP, and now when scanning, instead of scanning memory channels 1 through 99 or whatever, it scans channel 1, then 2, then 1 again, then 3, then 1 again, then 4, and so on. I have no idea how this glitch got introduced -- I programmed the first thirty or so channels from the HT itself, then copied it to CHIRP, added more, then sent it back down to the radio.
I might try the trick of copying the channels into a new profile and sending it back out to the radio.
At least Channel 1 is set to the calling frequency! 😄
Here's a safer(r) way and what I've done is to read one radio. Copy the whole spreadsheet format and then paste it to the other radio's page. I've had to do that UV5R's when they've had a firmware change
W9DLP
@@davep6977 Isn't that what I said? It's certainly what I *tried* to say. :)
That’s great to see the suppression of harmonics. Now - I need to see the same deal with a rain resistant model.
We all have our own ideas for software and cables. A number of years ago I tried the Baofeng cable and software, nothing but issues. I bought the RT Systems and is the only system I use for all my radios, I must have 11 CDs with cables. Plug & Play. easy.
Thank you for the video, clears up some stuff for me. Hear you on the waves brother. I am ordering one for a good back up.
UV 5R = Damn good little radios!
I guess it's kind of off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream new movies online ?
@Gunnar Jayden thanks, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D I appreciate it!!
@Rodrigo Darian you are welcome =)
I see we have different definitions of "damn good."
@@johnwest7993seems many have dillusions and different opinions on “policy” and actual “law” as well 😂. Sad ham much?! 😂 F the FCC
After watching this I just ordered 2 UV-5Rs before they are prohibited. I know enough to not transmit out of band.
they are illegal and the FCC will come to your door and confiscate them 🤨
Thank you for all the great videos....just past my extra class on March 17, 2021....
Congratulations on the upgrade!
America is the only country in the world with handy talkies. The rest of the World have walkie talkies.
Where we are we try to use a radio that can give us Community Policing Forum frequencies and the $ X $ frequencies as well as the license frequencies as we help them in case of disasters. You need to carry 5 radios when you have a disaster. We try to use one. The UV-5R is perfect.
The “handy talky” thing is hams being pedantic. “Walky-talky” was the army nickname for a backpack radio. When hand-held radios became a thing, a slightly more descriptive nickname was needed. The public often calls hand-held radios walkie-talkies.
Was introduced to the Q’s, the Quansheng line INSTEAD of the Baofeng. Am fairly happy with them I suppose EXCEPT can’t seem to find spare/extra batteries for them although I haven’t TRIED REAL hard..
Thanks for the very technical info, used your link to buy the GT-5R based on this. Just starting out and studying for the HAM technician license.
Just got my GT-5R. Also the 2022-2026 ham license manuel. Studying for my Tech license. But soon gonna get my GMRS license. Looking for a good GMRS radio.
I'm totally green...does a person need a actual ham technician license?
@@sonyareeder7855 Only if you want to transmit, you can own it and listen but need a license to transmit with it.
Where I live I would use my UV5R without any licence.. I just tune them to the 'open' public use frequencies that all the other little walkie-talkies sold in shops use..
@David Casler would you please check if Chirp can expand the frequencies of the GT-5R like it use to be able to do with UV-5R? I like that fact that it transmits cleaner signal but I don't want to buy it if I can not expand the frequencies to what was covered by UV5R. if it can not what would be a UV5R with a clean signal and no signal restriction like this?
I do like the fact that the UV-5R is capable of transmitting on certain frequencies other than the ham bands. I have one programmed for all of the emergency frequencies in my area. I do not transmit on these frequencies, but having the ability to make an emergency call in the event of a life threatening emergency is an option I like to have in an area with limited cell phone coverage. If I can save a life, I will gladly deal with the consequences if transmitting on a restricted frequency.
If you ever end up having to keep your word, and DO; I would argue your user name is incorrect, here's the correction;
Completely Human
you better not transmit on the restricted bands. you better not. 🤨
@@jessihawkins9116 you must not have read the FCC guidelines on exemptions for life threatening emergencies.
FCC won’t do anything. Think men in black suits are going to come and get you in the middle of the night?!? 😂. Show me 1 example where someone went to jail over talking on a ham band with no fcc “badge of honor”. Cool your transistors a bit. Who cares
You can very easily unlock the gt-5r to transmit on out of ham band frequencies.
Great strait to the point explanations as always David. Much appreciated.
tried to watch and could not take the "fillers" and name dropping and bragging. Who cares who sent him a letter and what is her/his name. 20 minutes could have been summed in one frequency chart.
Dave- you do a lot of good! Thanks for your work for us.
hello David, due to the fact that the manual is confusing, my question is, does this HT transmit in both 2m and 70cm? in the manual it is said that it transmits only in the 70cm band, and only reception in 2m
Programming a repeater on the fly. Uv5r
Turn on
Vfo mode.
Enter frequency
Enter shift direction.
Enter off set.
Enter PL
Save to channel.
VERY important process to memorize!
Edit: Step 8 is write down the info in a notebook. I've forgotten what all my stored channels are for several times. It's my biggest headache.
The UV5R is now sold here as the UV5R IC, Industry Canada approved.
Thanks David that was very informative and interesting.
This is great to see. I have enjoyed my UV-5R even after getting new Yaesu HTs. At that price point the GT-5R is a fantastic beginner radio. I will happily purchase these for folks who are just getting into the hobby! Next step is a better belt clip.
I have a Yaesu ht, a Radioditty DMR ht and a Baofeng ht. I usually use my bsofeng when checking into nets from home. I have owned that radio since 2017 and have nothing bad to say about it. I know you can transmit outside ham bsnds, but is my responsibility as a licensed ham to know which frequencies I have privileges on and not deviate off that. I compare that with hf opertions. We need to know what is legal and what is not, all licensed operators know that.
And a license, cowboy!
Dave, do you or anyone else have a link to an online version of the NEW manual?
Thanks David. As informative as ever
I downloaded a copy of the (public info) FCC test report for the UV-5R family of radios from the FCC website itself. There, you can see the test results which were taken by Global Compliance (Shenzhen) Co., Ltd. and submitted by an agent in California, MiCom Labs Inc. The parent company, Po Fung Electronic (HK) International Group Company manufactures the radios and sells them under different models to other companies, according to information submitted to the FCC. The radiated emissions data submitted shows the spectrum analyzer sweeps (3 meter vertical and horizontal test modes) from 30Mhz to 1Ghz. All the test points (the entire sweep) were under the FCC limits.
Glad that someone put an effort in reviewing the FCC filling paperwork, there is a lot a misunderstanding of FCC equipment authorization process. Let me share some info here...for example the FCC logo is not necessary a lie in this case, its an indication of SDOC, Supplier Declaration of Conformity of the NON intentional radiation to FCC part 15B rule. Prove of certification is the listing of FCCID, The TX ( Part 90 transmitter....part 97 does not really have a certification requirement, this is kinda sticky situation for manufacturer because part 97 amateur radio rule is for home brewer to improve radio art, so Baofeng provided test report of part 90...) and RX ( Part 15B for scanning receiver) , although under different FCCID, there are the same company under diffident grantee code. Note the Po Fung and BaoFeng are the same thing " treasure Mountain" except PoFung is southern Chinese dialect pronunciation , while BaoFeng is in Mandarin. The spur emission highest freq range per FCC requirement is 10x the Fundamental freq. result of "test sample" looks good, even thought official test report show more spur than Daves, because of the lower noise floor of certification grade spectrum analyzer. 73..
Prolific is not counterfeit but it is a different brand UART chip. Many "programmers" do not understand serial peripherals so that is likely why prolific cables have issues.
I was very interested in the updated radio after hearing this. Unfortunately the reviews haven't been very good. I think I'll hold off till they get the bugs worked out. I mostly just program it with area repeaters and scan through those. Otherwise I'm just making sure to stay in the ham frequencies. I do like the extras in case of life/limb emergencies and I get nothing on the repeaters. I carry mine in the deep backcountry, including hunting where the chance of an emergency can be higher. Someone mentioned the uv5r3 and it having the 1.25 meter as well. That my be my next handheld. Really eyeing the xiegu g90 for my first HF as well.
You don't necessarily get what you pay for... but you definitely DO pay for what you get!
EXACTO
I don't mind having a radio that can transmit out of band, I know better than to do that. It seems to be a modern problem since many older ham radios especially kits certainly could go off band but we just policed ourselves.
Precisely. Despite what the FCC claimed in DA-18-980, there's no rule or law saying a radio capable of xmitting outside amateur freqs is illegal. Exactly as you said, homebrew and repurposed radio gear from decades ago was perfectly capable of xmitting on non-ham bands, but was still perfectly legal. Strict adherence to DA-18-980 would mean practically every modern SDR would also be illegal.
@@JaronActual 🖐🏼 🎙73's kd9oam
@@AdamosDad High-five in return. We don't need corporations and manufacturers as extensions of a nanny state.
@@JaronActual Absolutely right my friend, I will build or modify my equipment as I please. I have and will continue to do so.
Does anyone know if the GT-5R can be opened up to transmit on the FRS, GMRS and MURS channels like the UV-5R can be?
Any home test to know if an HT is compliant? Use a receiver on first harmonic and see how far away it can be received compared to a big-3 HT? Really like my UV82 but fear it's illegal/dirty on TX. Wish I could get a compliant UV82 because I love the look/feel of it.
BTW the standard for performing a harmonic and spurious test is to set the level of Fo and then insert a Fo notch and/or Highpass filter below Fo2 then add the attenuation of the filters to the reading and subtract 6Db per octave if using a sampler. Some FCC services require measurements to -120Db.
I freely admit I'm no expert on the finer points of testing radios. I doubt my scope would allow that level of detail.
Great video. It's funny, I went to your link to Amazon and then went to radioddity link ro Amazon. In 1 day the price went up $2.00 more. You have affected the market. 😂😂😂 let me know what your next stock is going to be, before you buy so I can make a living 😀😀😀
Great job with the video. Have been enjoying your videos for quite a few years. Buy the way I am going to purchase the GT-5r from your link. Dobby need another radio, but you did such a great job. Have fun, stay safe and stay healthy.
I bought the red cable at GigaParts and have never had issues with it. I have over a dozen programming cables for various radios and they all work with Linux.
New to all this and was persuaded by your video to buy a pair of GT-5Rs. Anxiously awaited arrival and then did the programming. All seemed straight forward but then when the test came -= while it could receive it wouldn't transmit. After much searching and trialing with settings I read the manual. I had set the radio for our local 80 cb frequencies and unfortunately that is out of the GT-5R range. The one you said not to get would have worked here as it Tx in 450 - 480. So going to spend the $$$s I had hoped to save and buy a local compliant set - GME TX6160
Great info, thanks for posting, I know this is a year old, but can anyone comment if there is any improvement on the receive side as well or same as basic UV5R..? thanks all..
Quick question: I have two (2) Baofeng UV-5Rs. I have them set and programed identically the same in the menu. I also have them on the same frequency. When I transmit from Baofeng radio # 1 to Baofeng radio # 2 it works fine however when I try to transmit from Baofeng radio # 2 to Baofeng radio # 1, the Baofeng radio # 1 will not pick up the transmission from the other Baofeng radio #2. SO I cannot hear any signal/transmission from Baofeng radio # 1. Do you think there is something wrong with Baofeng radio # 1?
Hey Dave, Purchased GT-5R very good radio. I did upgrade my antenna to the RD-701, having recieving issues on local repeaters but may be compromised antenna. Will change again to see results. Good recommendation on GT-5R
73’s
Keith Jenkins K9JKJ
Where did you find out how to pronounce Wouxun? I looked on their website and couldn’t find anything about it.
It was on the PowerWerx website some time ago.
Question.. ive added a quarter wave ground wire to my 7ft whip..on my fibreglass camper body it tuned up beautifully, i change the wire to aluminium tape and stuck it on in place of the wire.. i couldnt get it to tune at all.. when i unstuck 4 inches of the end.. it tuned up very nice.. whats going on.. cutting it shorter to allow for end effect didnt help.. any thoughts
To be clear: Never upload the radio data from one radio and download it to another radio. You can upload the channel presets, save them as a CSV and then load those into the presets of another radio with no problems, as long as the fields all match.
Why a CSV? I use the regular default Chirp format to backup my radio default programs. Am I upsetting the Baofeng Order? Again?
This approximate method can also be used to change defaults on similar cheap HT's.
No luck with removing FRS assignments yet.
Radios with the same name use different microprocessors/FPGA chips and randomly loading the wrong one from a different radio can do terrible things. The chirp file has data in it other than the presets and radio settings.@@HarryHamsterChannel
Thank you for another good video. Nice to see that Radiodity got Baofeng to fix the transmit problems. I use my Baofengs for receive mostly and find that the receive also has a major problem where strong out of band signals will desensitize the front end and you will not receive signals that better (more expensive) radios will pick up. Do you have the means to test that? Richard from Sotabeams has a great youtube on the issue.
I agree...I have a UV-5R, the receive end is lousy...won't pick up APRS, won't pick up packet from the ISS, and it can "hit" distant repeaters, but can't "hear" them(while listening on another, better HT). What should I expect for $25 ? Does work ok as an Echolink hotspot, so I guess I'll keep it for that.
I’d love to see a “tear down / take apart” video. I’m assuming it has the addition of 2 bandpass filters to allow the clean output on 2 meters and 440. But how do they do that while preserving the low price ?
Gratuitous Baofeng porn.
Less than a double sawbuck, good buddy. They did it!
Thanks very informative, just got one to monitor 5he railroad frequencies 73s N1rxa
Just found your channel. Thank you! Have to ask: Which Hallicrafters is on the shelf behind you? I have an SX-25 I'm going to restore...
In programming the regular UV-5R in CHIRP, can’t you program a frequency to not transmit as part of the settings?
Great video! Thanks for such a great instruction. I am just entering the amateur radio world and my question is this: I will have a brand new radio so can I still use chirp to program it and does this take the place of buying programming software? Thank you very much.
Make sure chirp supports the radio you are looking to buy. Also you will need to buy a programming cable. Chirp is free.
A big problem with the two GT-5R's I've received is that the squelch is WAY to sensitive. Even the minimum squelch of 1 will cause audible stations to cut out (go silent) if just a bit of noise appears. (You have to depress MON to listen.) None of my 4 other types of Baofeng/BTECH units have this issue. Using a gain antenna like the Nagoya NA320A or the SRJ77CA doesn't seem to help - which seems very strange. Did Baofeng have a big, "bad-lot" of these units that it's dumping on the market? (I see they're $25 on Amazon now, which seems very low.)
The squelch is infamously bad. But you can fiddle the settings on it in CHIRP and make it more useful
good info. you tried a gt-3tp. says 8 wat but doubt it. no fcc number? i just use to listen. got ptt disabled thro chirp. ps im in uk.
I bet the frequencies can still easily be unlocked. Are we mistaking them making a product for the American market when they are actually just slapping a sticker on ones shipped here to try and fake fcc compliance?
Edit after watching the whole video. I'm impressed. The fixing of the spurious emissions is just impressive. I'm extremely happy to be able to listen to the full frequency range but only transmit on ham bands. Great video as always
The baofeng dmr rig did dmr type one perfectly. Only trouble is no one else was on type one.
Thanks for the update
Wondering if you can help. I recently purchased UV-5R's . I am trying to load the Rugged Radio channels to it. When I upload them, i can see the channel but it does not allow me to transmit on them. Any ideas what it could be? The TX and everything is enabled. Not sure why it wont work.
I wonder if "cut the green wire" will wideband them, as it does in so many premium ham radios.
I appreciate the problem, but also know folks who keep radios programmed out of band "just in case" they are needed for true emergency service on marine, gmrs, or public service bands.
Watch a video from "notarubicon" that explains how to do it. Simple combination of button pushes while powering on.
Anyone owning a GT-5R that can confirm if it has the FM Radio (65.0MHz-108.0MHz) capability? I don't see any mention of it anywhere. Thanks!
But Dave, when the zombie apocalypse comes restricted bands and spurious signals are insignificant! ;-)
Personally I have two UV-5R's and a UV-5RIII which has the 1.25 meter band.
There is no "Skip-Memory Search" setting on the radio. This must be done within Chirp software.
When I use my cheap-o USB cable, it goes into TX mode and I have to insert it and reinsert it, fiddle around with it (on both ends) and eventually it works. - and of course the manual is written in Engrish.
This radio is most likely identical with better specs and restricted frequencies. (FM radio, Flashlight, Alarm)
Many people opt for the MARS Mod on the IC-7300...but I didn't. I knew I would be tempted. lol. '73
Most 5R variants use practically identical innards. It's just a matter of what firmware has been loaded onto it, which determines what features it can do, what settings are exposed in the menu, or how CHIRP interacts with it.
The further problem is that Chinese enforcement of IP law being what it is, it can be extremely difficult to know whether you're getting an actual Baofeng, a licensed Baofeng variant made by a third party, or an imposter. Not that "official" Baofengs are always great quality, but the rip-offs are often much, much worse.
Love my tri band Chinese “junk”. Works better than my $450 handheld!!
We have several "spammers" on the repeaters where I live transmitting interfering signals, music, ect. I'm pretty sure the police are NOT showing up at any doors for FCC violations related to these radios or other things. Good review on these new little radios however.
Fox hunting time!
@@DiverCTH wait until the fox bites back.
Can you listen to an frequencies that you are not allowed to transmit on? Is there any downside at all to choosing the GT-5R instead of the UV-5R? Any software that works on one and not the other?
Hi Dave. Whats about adjust the frequency Range in the Settings Menü...!?
New GT-5R owner here... is there any way to get both Line A and B of the display to show the Freq and the Name (call sign for example) lines of the channel being received. Right now I have the setting for Line A as Freq and Name for Line B but the display is still for two different channels. It displays the Freq of one channel and the Name of the second channel (unless I manually set both Ch A and B to the same repeater.) Hopefully I am making sense...
Only radio I have found that will sync the A and B lines of the display to the same channel is the BTech GMRS V2. Menu 24, Display Sync, "ON"
A spurious output can be simply down to using any old antenna available at the time. 2.4ghz are a favourite.
No that's not true. Those spurious emissions are from the transmitter.
No matter how bad the antenna it's not going to create frequencies not made by the radio.
Hi David...greetings from New Zealand...ZL3TJS . I recently purchased a GT-5R from Amazon but I'm a mystified because I sought of expected it to be limited even in the scan mode to 144-148 and 420-450..but my unit scans well beyond those limits. Is it intended that I Chirp it to the correct band limits?
Cheers/bruce
I think puxing started the Chinese radio craze on ebay many years ago before amazon was popular or even around
It has been a hit. Currently sold out on the Radioddity site.
I ordered the radio via your link and just received a UV-5RE vice a GT-5R. AArgghhh!!!
So did I. Rather annoyed.
In testing on the GT-3TP I found the 2nd harmonic was -56dBc with no other spurious seen.
Those frequencies are also the Australian 2 and 70 ham bands
4/06/2021 - Not available on Amzn in single units - only set of 6
Thanks Dave
What about the UV-B5, does it do better with spurious emissions? Supposedly its front end doesn't overload as easy as UV5R
Sorry, I don't have one to compare.
I think the UV-88 is a superior radio At about the same price point and now supported by chirp.
What is the name or model number of The Red Cable you mention?
You mentioned the radio can only transmit on the ham bands. Can it receive across the full spectrum like a UV-5R?
Yes
Along with what you feel it should say on the front of the package, it SHOULD also state the GT 5 DOES NOT operate on GMRS/FRS/MURS bands, which for the non-HAM op, like myself, who only would want these for that purpose (yes, I have a lic to operate on those spectrums). Not advocating using non-fcc approved devices for any transmissions however, for people wanting to get a decent multipurpose/use radio to tie up the communications needs for emergencies, these radios not only operate in those areas, but has FM and weax band reception and VHF-FM abilities. Now, if they learn to use CHIRP to set them up accordingly, that's even better. Thanks and I enjoy your videos.. 73's
I did not realize an Amateur transceiver had to meet Part 90 spec.
Guess I have to replace my ADI and my Kenwood.
can it be unlocked by pressing the 3 buttons while powering on ?
Hi David! How is the receive audio level output on the GT-5R? I have 3 of the UV-5Rs scattered throughout the house. The oldest one has tons of audio output. The other two were bought as a pair later on and the audio output is terrible. It's so low that if there is any other noise in the room, I cannot hear it well at all even with the volume all the way up. I remember reading a review a few years back about some of the UV-5Rs used different audio output ICs but I haven't been able to relocate that article. Thanks, Dave WB8VQV
Great, now I want one of these....
Question for whatever reason you’re unable to obtain a cable at least at the moment of purchasing the radio will it still work. Also is it possible to swap out the rubber ducky antenna with a better one on this model sorry this is a dumb question Also very good video keep up the amazing work
Hi Dave. How about the receiver performance ? When connected to stationary antenna, the UV-5R gets numb. How about GT-5R?
I did not check that. Sorry. Just checked the new claims they make for the radio.
Amazon: Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.
I found that the people running a science fiction convention I liked to attend had purchased a dozen UV-5rs on eBay, and we're using them for the operations crew. I made a big stink about it, so they asked around and one of their First Aid people had their ham ticket, so I talked to him about it and said he had to make sure they were used properly. He didn't realize that they were using ham radios, and thought they had FRS radios. He was very concerned as well. I'd have to dig into part 97 to make sure, but I think they managed to squeak by with his help.
That's another thing the GT-5r box needs -- a reference to Part 97. Parts 15B and 90 don't cut it.
Well they do make a baofeng style radio that is GMRS only but it's a piece of junk
@@davidaix5771 Do you mean the BTECH GMRS-V1? I have one. It's better than the blister pack FRS/GMRS garbage. I've actually managed to TALK to people on it in my area (yes, I have a GMRS license as well as an Amateur Extra).
@@JennyEverywhere yeah that's what I was talking about those bteck i have a bteck uv-5x3 and its great radio btech is an American importer and they upgrade the receivers to mine is a tri-band
I ordered the radio using the Amazon link Dave posted in the description, and the Powerwerx "red cable" as well. The cable has not arrived yet, but it doesn't matter much, I located my old Baofeng cable from my UV-5r, and after some fiddling with drivers, I got it working with Chirp.
Now I notice that it does NOT say "GT-5R" on the little plate at the bottom of the front of the radio. It says instead "UV-5RE". This is concerning because I ordered the radio from the page that SAYS it's a GT-5R, but I didn't GET a GT-5R. Instead, I got this one, and don't know if the spurious harmonics are still messed up on this thing! I haven't tried it on GMRS or FRS to see if it'll transmit out of band, but I'm almost afraid to try. It DOES seem to work a bit better than my UV-5R I got years ago, so SOMETHING has changed, but it looks like either Baofeng or Radioddity is pulling a fast one here, sending out radios that aren't what the customer ordered.
Dave, if you have any contacts with the company, could you please ask them about this? There are comments on the Amazon page (which now says "Currently Unavailable") that say I'm not the only one who got a UV-5RE instead of a GT-5R. I'm going to try contacting the seller myself, but I don't have any inside connections like you might.
@@JennyEverywhere if it's a uv-5r just going to chirp and you can wideband it by expanding the frequency limits it's real easy and as far as those radios being out of stock they kind of all are the FCC I think is cracking down on the sale of these radios so I get them while you still can what I mean by that is with less limits on the frequencies pretty soon they're going to have to sell them where they can't transmit out of band
I shall return my recently ordered bulk order of 300 UV-5R radios! (just kidding).
You got me thinking. Setting on my shelf. A gt-5r. Also have several uv-5r. Could my favorite uv-5rxxx have its hard programming. To be "flashed" to be "refit" for compliance. And it's good to the story it won't let me xmit in officer territory. Tks . Kv4lu
Yea, but many many Hams are obsessed with having radios that transmit out of the ham bands... When challenged they state "in case of emergency" they can transmit anywhere! They also like to use their amateur band radios on MURS and GMRS. (Note a comment below) So they WILL seek radios that will transmit out of band and WILL seek to modify, if possible, the radio to transmit out of band. You might convince the manufacturers you will NEVER convince the ham user! It is nice to see they have improved the spectral purity of the radio. 73 Mike P.S. I bought a TS-440 HF rig from a ham that not only had it opened up on transmit... Had every aeronautical HF frequency programmed into it and it would transmit there too! It's a wonderful experience!
As a pilot I hope you didn't find transmitting on HF aeronautical frequencies to be wonderful. Almost all HF radios today have general coverage receivers so you can receive anything.
@@davecasler I was just emphasizing the extent hams will go to to modify their radios to transmit OOB. As a pilot I don't appreciate ANYONE who jeopardizes safe flight in any way. Sorry that was not obvious! The "wonderful experience” comes from just seeing it all unfold! I don't transmit beyond the limits of my license! But do hold the Restricted Radiotelephone license required "back in the day” to transmit on aeronautical frequencies. FWIW. :)
@@wb8cxo I have a restricted radiotelephone license too, but have no idea where it is!
The only solution is (just saying):
Radio Hams cought with out of band TX capability would loose their licence for at least 5 years and face a increased dificulty exame to get back in the hobby.
For non-Hams:
Imediate imprisionment with obligatory jail time in a low security prision facility (althought it must be a Faraday cage prision cell😀😀😀).
This is the ONLY way.
Otherwise, people will laugh at you if you try to explain the rules (those rules avoid chaos).
But it all seems north-corean enforcement, so it is a nowadays reality:
Everybody does what pleases to them and if it's not a obligatoty jail time offence they simply don't care. (And yes, they will laugh at you and call you 'square").
Newbie question: What would you recommend would be the Baofeng radio up Upgrade or Step up from the GT-5R?
I guess about anything that isn't based on the Baofeng. I'm really looking into getting a mobile radio with a mag mount antenna with an oscillator on the antenna. Larsen or Comet are good antennas but the hams I've seen have at least two different antennas on their cars because there is no set rule for why something works. Try a Japanese radio like a Yaesu or Icom. Some of the people who are into ARES have a Kenwood.
This is great news!