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The Time Trial of Benedict Arnold

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2012
  • How should history remember Benedict Arnold? In The Time Trial of Benedict Arnold, visitors act as jurors in the Court of Public History. Watch as visitors debate his legacy and hear Arnold's arguments in his own defense. When History is on trial, only Time can be the judge.
    To recreate this program with students, use the lesson outline here: historyexplorer.si.edu/video/a...
    And the video segments below:
    Opening Statement: • Video
    If I Am a Traitor: • Video
    You Betrayed Your Country: • Video
    You Betrayed the Declaration of Independence: • Video
    You Betrayed Congress: • Video
    You Betrayed the Soldiers: • Video
    You Betrayed General Washington: • Video
    You Began a Conspiracy: • Video
    Did You Take Money?: • Video
    How Were you Injured?: • Video
    How Should You Be Remembered?: • Video
    Verdict: Acquittal: • Video
    Verdict: Conviction: • Video
    Verdict: Undecided: • Video

Komentáře • 56

  • @4nomorewaragain6
    @4nomorewaragain6 Před 7 lety +20

    There is a serious monument at Saratoga to "the Major General who won the battle for us". It just doesn't dare mention his name. But everyone with a brain knows.

    • @briansheehan3430
      @briansheehan3430 Před 5 lety +3

      The Boot Monument.
      "In dedication to the memory of the most brilliant soldier of the Continental Army.
      Who won the decisive battle of the American Revolution, and for himself the rank of Major General."

    • @thedynastycontinues945
      @thedynastycontinues945 Před 5 lety +4

      Everyone with a brain also knows what happened AFTER that. Which is why his name isnt on the monument.

  • @fernandovasquez2621
    @fernandovasquez2621 Před 9 lety +6

    It can be said that Benedict looked for his own good at all times, he was an intelligent man. Unfortunately, his choice to switch sides was no backed up by the view of those who wanted independence. Sadly, one choice can affect the course of one’s own legacy.

  • @kelvinadcock5767
    @kelvinadcock5767 Před 5 lety +4

    What is sad is we had a statue of General Lee, but not for General Arnold. When General Arnold did more for our country than Lee ever did.

    • @briansheehan3430
      @briansheehan3430 Před 5 lety +2

      Absolutely true.

    • @thedynastycontinues945
      @thedynastycontinues945 Před 5 lety

      Such a dumb liberal comment

    • @kelvinadcock5767
      @kelvinadcock5767 Před 5 lety

      @@thedynastycontinues945 consider that if it wasn't for Arnold's victories during his time as a continental general. We would've lost the war before it even began. If the Confederate States had been the victors. Our country would still be divided.

    • @thedynastycontinues945
      @thedynastycontinues945 Před 5 lety +2

      @@kelvinadcock5767 Our country is very much divided STILL.... take a look around man. Im not saying slavery was right.... but I understand why the south didnt want to give it up. It was a law already in place that they didnt want changed. Arnold WAS a war hero for us UNTIL he tried to have GW captured and fought for the British against us. As soon as he switched sides.... His legacy as a hero was gone.

    • @MustafaAli-lb8dq
      @MustafaAli-lb8dq Před 3 lety +1

      The funny thing is that there is a statue of Confederate leader but not arnold.

  • @nowhereman4319
    @nowhereman4319 Před 4 lety +2

    You could say, if not for his victory at Saratoga, would the French have joined the US?

  • @jnsyr
    @jnsyr Před 11 lety +3

    This is a great start. Some visuals would help explain the discussion.

  • @SmithsonianAmHistory
    @SmithsonianAmHistory  Před 11 lety +5

    Great thinking. We appreciate the feedback!

    • @ronschramm9163
      @ronschramm9163 Před 7 lety

      National Museum of American History ..Was Arnold treated unfairly during his Continental Army career? Undoubtedly, he was , insofar as his accomplishments being credited to others. Having said that, his malfeasance in administering his duties as military commander if Philadelphia as well as the betrayal of the cause he swore loyalty to, overshadows the accomplishments. One must endeavour to hold to an ethical standard when in the position of leadership and authority, which Arnold did not. Ethical behaviour often stems from the decisions one makes when not being observed, and Arnold failed in that standard. Further, the living history intepreter in this presentation pints out the real Arnold's flaw...he believes that others were at fault and justified his later decision. Again, some truth to miscrediting others, but not sufficient motivator for his last actions...imho.

  • @Elizzoo665
    @Elizzoo665 Před 11 lety +3

    He was actually the 6th Benedict Arnold.

  • @chowdercat1776
    @chowdercat1776 Před 11 lety +2

    At the end, some people are like "Why am I clapping?"

  • @lincolny2220
    @lincolny2220 Před 9 lety +10

    I wish I knew him before he committed treason. I could have talked him through it and convinced him not to but now it's too late and I'm so sad when I saw his monuments and read about his story I cried and felt bad no one should be treated that way no matter what they did he was human we all make mistakes and shouldn't have to die because of them. He was such a good leader. And very beautiful. May God bless you all and if your going through something similar to him make the right choice and don't commit treason just fight through it trust me it will go away I'm here for you and I'm sad I wasn't there for benedict but I'm here for you so forget about the haters you are beautiful no matter what they say words can't bring you down.
    (Adapted from a comment lifted from an Amanda Todd video because I'm stupid and I also have zero common sense.)

    • @catharinetew7746
      @catharinetew7746 Před 7 lety

      I SO AGREE!!!!!

    • @catharinetew7746
      @catharinetew7746 Před 7 lety

      So?

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 Před 4 lety +1

      He was a low character man who sold out his entire country for a pile of silver. Turncoats got what they deserved.

    • @anindyassdey
      @anindyassdey Před 4 lety +1

      @@reboundrides8132 His brilliance won battles for the Congressional Army, that OTHERS got the credit for. You would have fucked your country over for 5 pennies and SNAP

    • @mookeythepimpthompson6031
      @mookeythepimpthompson6031 Před 4 lety

      Lol

  • @chrisgibson5267
    @chrisgibson5267 Před 3 lety +1

    Madam, that would be Major John André, the son of Swiss Huguenot parents living in England.
    Note that England had a Huguenot community as it had gained many Huguenot refugees when Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes, thus removing their freedom to practice their faith.
    This included the Marshall of France the Duke of Schonberg who joined the English army and died whilst rallying his men at the Boyne.
    Major André was captured by the Continental Army in 1775, and was released in an exchange of prisoners the following year.
    He was working in the British
    Secret Service when he was captured whilst behind the lines and attempting to reach the Crown forces after speaking with General Arnold and taking possession of the papers showing how to take West Point.
    A board of senior officers found him guilty of spying and sentenced him to death by hanging.
    He wrote to General Washington and asked to be shot befitted a military man, but this was refused.
    Efforts were made to secure his release, but General Clinton refused to hand over General Arnold, despite the fact that he personally despised him. It is also known that the plans General Arnold offered to sell were not required as General Clinton knew the layout of West Point.
    The Major was well liked by all who net him and met his end with great courage. He tied one of his own handkerchiefs over his eyes and places the noose around his own neck.
    Alexander Hamilton wrote of the Major's courage and the Marquis De La Fayette cried at his execution.

  • @outdoorlife5396
    @outdoorlife5396 Před 4 lety +2

    Arnold was a great soldier and won a great battle on one of the great lakes. That said, there where two people who kept the revolution going. It was Arnold and Washington. One had character and one didn't. One became the father of his country. I wish the ball had of went through Arnold's heart at Saratoga, so he would be a national hero.

  • @infernape493
    @infernape493 Před 11 lety +3

    Wow this was great!

  • @jlc5148
    @jlc5148 Před 4 lety +2

    Patriot Or Not With Out A Doubt Benedict Arnold Was One Of The Greatest Generals Of That Era If Not The Greatest. Without A Doubt Without His Help During The Early Stage Of The War Of Independence Would Have Been The Tiny American Revolt That Was Swiftly Crushed. Arnold Was A Hero Driven To Villainous Such As Aaron Burr. It Would Be Like Hamilton The Musical Except Burr Had The Achievements Of Hamilton And He Had WAY More Reasoning To Kill Hamilton And Hamilton Was The American Cause.

  • @missmartine7139
    @missmartine7139 Před 3 lety +1

    This is brilliant

  • @MonaRenee
    @MonaRenee Před 10 lety +3

    Thank you so much for this video! I like the idea of talking to the 'people concerned' instead of just talking about them. History is, after all, not just facts and figures. History is made and written by human beings. And even if we are in the jury today, we might well be on trial in the 'Court of Public History' tomorrow.

  • @countryboy2368
    @countryboy2368 Před 5 lety +1

    Benedict Arnold, would never challenge a woman too a dual.

    • @angeliquecheung574
      @angeliquecheung574 Před 4 lety

      Were women allowed to duel? I think they were not. If something like that were to happened, Benedict Arnold would be really disgraced.

    • @countryboy2368
      @countryboy2368 Před 4 lety

      @@angeliquecheung574 Women were allowed at one time to dual other women but never a man.

  • @nowhereman4319
    @nowhereman4319 Před 4 lety

    Commended? General Arnold, asked for the command of west point, over a field command.

  • @bearsagainstevil
    @bearsagainstevil Před 3 lety +2

    He was a hero , sadly the traitors and rebels won . if you think the American side were right to rebel against their lawful king .why did you fight a war to put down the rebellion of southern states the union army treated the south worse than the British army treated the united states . Arnolds country was Britain he was part of the British empire he was British as were all Americans the redcoats were your national army .I'm British and think Arnold was in the right

  • @Embargoman
    @Embargoman Před 6 lety

    I admire this sellout now because of what is happening nowadays, for a Colombian president to think like Benedict Arnold is the best solution when it comes to the San Andres and Takeshima issue being collide.

  • @robcochran6213
    @robcochran6213 Před 4 lety

    He was a great general with horrible personal flaws.

  • @wristdisabledwriter2893

    I have a crazy theory. If Benedict Arnold didn’t try to sell West Point aka fort Arnold (either due to death or due to him changing his mind), that we would have lost the war. Why, because the betrayal caused Washington to fight harder in revenge.

    • @kevinbergin9971
      @kevinbergin9971 Před rokem +1

      No, but if he had died at Saratoga, instead of being wounded, they probably would have named a state after him.

  • @roblena7977
    @roblena7977 Před 6 lety +4

    Very well done. Think about it this way, America wasn't as we see it today. America wasn't even born yet, didn't defeat the nazis or visit the moon. What you saw back then was a corrupt government trying to change from one system of royalty to another. Congress was even more corrupt than it is today, the troops were freezing starving and sick and the worst people got promoted. Being a Tory seemed like a good idea, at least the British troops were warm and had food. Don't get me wrong I love this country but it isn't without its sins and for better or worse the British were our family.

    • @hankreardenfan1019
      @hankreardenfan1019 Před 6 lety +3

      I would have SO been a Loyalist back then, and I'm a Jewish Pro Irish Girl. I would have pretended to be a boy and joined the Brits. Then, if I knew about Benedict at that time, when Benedict comes to the British, finally having enough of being bullied, I'd welcome him with open arms.

  • @robertkreutzer4107
    @robertkreutzer4107 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow. Are we really trying to rehabilitate Arnold? He was a hero at Ticonderoga & Saratoga. He was abused by Gates. Washington offered him partial command of his own army. Arnold had already approached Andre' with the offer to turn over both West Point and George Washington himself to the British. The portrayal that he was, and remained a loyal British subject, throughout the Revolutionary War is false. He switched sides and made war against the United States, invading Virginia. The actor portraying him should be wearing a British uniform, not an American uniform. Unbelievable. I have always taught my students about both Arnolds, but the good he did does not cancel out what he did and what he tried to do. The monument at Saratoga - that doesn't bear his name - is what he deserves.

  • @miltonthegreat6520
    @miltonthegreat6520 Před 3 lety

    Americans are funny when they look at their own history. Always with a " Today is like yesterday" look in their eyes without thinking people had to fight for those rights. Notice the black fellow never asks a question during the reenactment. Also notice how people forget the regional differences then and still now. The cult of manifest destiny is always in the storytelling. Many black folk joined British troops then as well, former slaves. It was a different time. Irish immigrants were beginning to arrive as well as First Nations, French, and Spanish battles for expansion. Forced resettlements. There was no America as we know it today.

  • @falcon3268
    @falcon3268 Před 2 lety

    I feel that he had felt betrayed by the colonies that he served. I mean he was passed up for promotion more than once, promotions that he had earned for his victories that he had obtained however several that were taken credit for by others. But it seems like greed is what was his undoing all together. Selling out to the British for a good chunk of change, he lost everything. Even with his knowledge and all, Arnold lost everything. His credibilty, his country, everything that by the time of his death his entire family was poor

  • @newlifeauto1072
    @newlifeauto1072 Před 3 lety

    He is a trader! >:(