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Nearly every American knows of the infamous Benedict Arnold, traitor to the American cause. But the name John Andre is not so prominent in our minds, despite how important he was to the events as they transpired. In this video I delve deeper into the story of what actually happened on those fateful days back in the fall of 1780, and follow the trail of the highly respected, highly unfortunate John Andre.
[1] Benedict Arnold Letter Offering West Point for $20,000, July 15, 1780
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[2] Documents found on Andre:
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[3] Joshua Hett Smith was a loyalist who aided Benedict Arnold and John Andre in their conspiracy. Not only did Arnold and Andre stay at Smith's house to continue plotting, but Smith actually accompanied John Andre for most of the walk back to British lines. However, suspecting they were past all danger, Smith left Andre to walk the final miles alone. Smith was tried and acquitted of playing a role in the Arnold plot due to lack of evidence.
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[4] The monument in Tarrytown commemorating Andre's capture is a monument to the captors. The statue on top of the monument is meant to be a statue of John Paulding, one of the three men who caught Andre. In 1880 the monument was presented to Tarrytown by a citizen named John Anderson. Coincidentally, "John Anderson" was John Andre's alias. It's the name he went by in correspondence with Benedict Arnold, and also the name used on his passes (signed by Arnold) meant to get him back to British lines.
SOME TRIVIA: The three men who captured Andre were honored for their service to America. They were given land, pensions, and silver medals. Interestingly, in 1817, sentiments seemed to change. Benjamin Tallmadge publicly denounced the men, asserting that they had ambushed Andre out of pure greed, NOT out of honorable patriot sentiment. He said that they only checked Andre's boot in order to find money.
[5] Letter from Andre to Washington asserting that he has done no wrong:
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[6] Letter from Andre to Washington asking that he shall not die on the "gibbet" (gallows):
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[7] Benedict Arnold and Sir Henry Clinton writing to George Washington to release Major John Andre:
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[8] Letter by Alexander Hamilton regarding the events:
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[9] Full text of monument to John Andre:
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Helpful article:
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“Turn” made me want to know more about Major John Andre. Even as an American he was my favorite character
Watching him hang was the best scene.
Same here.
I did a report on him in school before turn existed. Much a underrated man and story in my opinion. History is filled with this. What nice about history majors u get to learn more much more than the regular stories told in high school
i got so involved in the TURN series, never knew this guy existed and that there were all these monuments dedicated to this entire one incident.. Just fascinating !!
Right?? I never knew about Andre prior to watching Turn, either! And once I started looking more into it, I was sooo surprised about how many monuments and plaques there were about him. It seems he's pretty big in small circles, ha
Also, I was told that the African American woman and her son who were Andrea's servants and spy were fictional characters, do you know that to be true ??
Same here!!! I loved the portrayal of John Andre in the show
How wonderful to see a young person so interested in our Founders & The Revolutionary War. It is a rich, exciting, breathtakingly sad, and ennobling story of the incredible sacrifices and dangers of ordinary people alongside aristocrats fighting not for land, or power or revenge; but. for one simple thing: Freedom!
Great video !!The death of John André also makes me feel sad .
I was in New York last year and stopped by the DeWitt house and the old 76 house and heard that story about John Andre. I was told that it was Andre who approached the militia men thinking that they were Tories because one of them was wearing a Hessian coat. They played along until he revealed that he was a British officer and then they arrested him. He was arrested in Tarrytown and then brought to Tappan to face trial.
The algorithm recommended this video, and I am so glad that I watched it. I knew the Benedict Arnold - John Andre story in a rough sense, but you provided SO MANY details that I was unaware of. I really appreciate you taking the time to go visit all of these monuments, and other points of interest, that I never even knew existed. I have no sympathy for Arnold, for there is perhaps no crime as onerous as committing treason. As for Andre, he was simply doing his job, but unfortunately for him, posessing documents and traveling under an alias gave the Americans cause to judge him a spy, and spies get hung. You did very well, and I will have a look at some of your other videos to see what other work you have done.
Thanks for your videos, they are very interesting!
Thanks for watching!
I am a direct descendant of Issac Van Wart, and enjoyed watching your video. You might find it interesting to find out that I worked as a teacher in Westchester County for 30 years, and during that time, I worked alongside a person who was the direct descendant of John Paulding. Amazing that our paths would cross that way. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
WOW -- that's an incredible coincidence, and it's also so incredible that you (both) are able to trace your families back to such an interesting and pivotal moment in American history. I'd love to know if you have any family heirlooms or passed-down stories from that time period? Maybe that's wishful thinking, ha. But either way, that's so, so cool!
@@TheCuriousWorld Unfortunately, no, but I was asked to be a guest of honor at the 190th anniversary of Issac's death. My younger daughter & I attended, and got to actually hold the Fidelity medal in our hands......AMAZING!! Look-up Issac Van Wart Fidelity Medal.....we actually held something in our hands that Geo. Washington had in his....chills!
@@imacmanx8562 Oh my gosh. That is SO amazing!!!!! I can't even imagine how that must have felt to hold.
Major John Andre' is one of my ancestors. Your ancestor Issac Van Wart and the others saved so many lives by capturing my ancestor.
My Maternal Grandmother was a Holocaust Survivor. And she never would have survived without D-Day happening.
@@dianestafford6968 Did Andre have any children? Or did you mean you are related to him?
You have made a wonderful video about a powerful, but understated, moment in our history. Full body chills. While I despise Arnold, Major John Andre is a fascinating person.
Thank you so much, Susan. It really is a fascinating story!
Nice! I'm currently in the process of writing a book on the life of Benedict Arnold. I have traveled to many places associated with him. His home in Norwich, CT, family graves in Norwich, CT, the fort in New London, CT, the stone tower in Newport, RI on property owned by an ancestor (also named Benedict Arnold), the Andre sites in Tarrytown, the Haverstraw woods, his boot statue on the battlefield in Saratoga, Valcour Island, Ft. Ticonderoga, the home outside of Albany where he healed after Saratoga, his home in Philadelphia, the Smithsonian Museum to see the Philadelphia (one of his vessels at Valcour Island), parts of the journey to Quebec, a wall of Ft. Arnold at West Point, his home in London, the basement of the church in London where is buried, and so much more.
While there is no denying that he turned on his country, it is interesting to immerse yourself into the story of the man, who we was as a child, who his family was, and how all of this later formed the man, good or bad. He was our greatest hero in a time where there were few. The men who served under him loved him. He is credited with saving the war more than once and he gave his money to the war effort, there aren't many this can be said of. He dealt with corrupt people who ignored, among other things, his crippling wounds in service to the Continental Army, giving promotions to those who hadn't done 10% of what Arnold had done. He was the real deal and while he is rightly called a traitor, he was pushed to the point of no coming back. I admire the man, his early successes, and the story of what made him who he was.
One correction- the fort was in Groton, my hometown. He burned New London, which was right across the Thames river, to the ground.
@@grybnyx yes, you are correct.
Yeah! Thanks for this! I just finished Bill O’Reilly’s Killing England and found the Benedict Arnold and Andre story fascinating. We are not told this story in school
Reporting this story, you did a very good job! I do however, think more needed to be said involving Benedict Arnold and his background, because he did not get a fair shake by Congress. He was forever having to defend his honor; being denied many promotions, mostly due to jealous generals or comrades wanting to take ownership of the victories such as the Battle of Saratoga or Ticonderoga in which Ethan Allen took all the glory. Benedict Arnold used much of his own wealth to help supply immediate needs for his soldiers yet never recovered a penny when he tried to defend himself. Much much more to Benedict Arnold- up to that very act of treason, he was no doubt one of Washington’s best generals. And it was Washington who kept him from withdrawing from the army after Congress ignored all his pleas for justice and to restore his honor. He would never have done what he did, if he had been treated fairly and with dignity up to that point.
Thanks for a great video. I watched Turn several times and enjoyed seeing the actual sites where this history took place. Thank you .
One of my 5X great grandfathers, Joab Bowers (b. 1765, so he was only 15 in 1780!), guarded John Andre while he was imprisoned.
To put things in perspective, the 20,000 pounds Arnold wanted is equivalent to almost 4 million dollars in today’s currency.
Thank you for taking an interest in American Revolution history.🇺🇸
My ancestor, *Nathan Strickland* was the hangman for Maj John André's execution. He had been captured by the Patriots and was being held prisoner as a dangerous Tory. In exchange for performing the unenviable task, he was granted release and returned to the Ramapo mountains where his family lived.
This was, as always, an amazing video. Definitely a heartbreaking story I think far too few can appreciate these days. It was truly great to see that you do.
Thank you very much, Ashe!
I just got back from touring many of the places in your video. I streamed Turn and it inspired me to go and see these places in person and that’s what a true lover of history does. Thank You
Awesome! It's so cool to be able to visit these places, even some 240 years later. Thanks for watching :)
TURN is absolutely AMAZING!!!JJ Field portrayed Major John Andre perfectly.
Agreed!!
Though Robert Rogers had the last laugh on him
@@MarkL-we8uk Very much so lol
@@paulthompkins4150 though watching them clash in their exchanges throughout the series was very entertaining.
@@MarkL-we8uk They definitely had a very contentious relationship.
Loved this video. I'm so glad to find your channel now you seem to have some fascinating stuff. Was also interested by John Andre while watching "Turn".
Thanks so much! :)
So happy to receive a notification about a new video from you! It's been too long 😅
I'm glad to see you staying productive and inquisitive even in these difficult times. Thank you for the time and effort spent on the research of this topic and for including these amazing resources in the description!
Stay safe and curious! Love from Russia 🇷🇺❤️🇺🇸
Thank you so much for this kind comment!
Not sure how I missed this video until now. Such a great history lesson, and you are an excellent presenter Bridget! 😊
Great video! I have been familiar with this event for many, many years although I never learned the whole story until I read an issue of American Heritage from the 1960s. I grew up in Burnt Hills, near Saratoga, but have never visited the places that you have. So much of NYS is all about the Revolution. Thank you for making this video. It is flawless. I am wholly empathy with you on the sadness of the whole affair.
My 6th great grandfather was John Paulding. He was one of the three militia men who captured Major Andre 😊
WOW! Thats cool!
Great video! I absolutely love educational videos like this that show the places & artifacts!
A new historical fiction novel came out this week, called Gideon's Revolution, based upon the plot to kidnap Arnold after he went over to the British. I haven't read it yet, so I can't attest to it, but it seem interesting.
Ooh very cool, thanks for the heads up!
This was both entertaining and informative, so many facts I was not aware of. I really would like to visit those locations now! The one element that was missing was Peggy Shippen would of enjoyed your perspective on that! Thank you!!
Loved Turn...forgot how much I enjoy history. This was a fun watch and my 12 year old
Starting talking to me about her favorite history teacher when she realized what I was listening to. A true story stays with you. I have been morning André and not just because of the Peggy S story line...which arm could have been ..just makes me sadder still to think...so I’m glad there’s not much on that. TURN did a good job awakening the history lover in me and you did some awesome leg work. Thank you!
I agree, Turn did such a great job in piquing my interest about the Revolution! Thank you for watching :)
I’m watching Turn now and loving it. I also enjoyed your video so much and was actually looking up more history facts when I found your video. Thanks.
Thanks, Linda. Turn is such a great show! I'm due for a rewatch.
You have done a wonderful job of presenting this material in an educational, entertaining and enjoyable way.
Thanks very much :)
Well done.... Huzzah, Huzzah, Huzzah. I will follow your channel and thanks for the link for further study. To end.... Thank you for keeping our history alive.
Thanks so much :)
I loved this and thank you so much for making it. Awesome movie and I live on Long Island and love finding its history from the past. There is so much history here
Absolutely! And I can't wait to learn more. Thank you for watching!
This is so good! Amazing video for an amazing story. I will definitely have to plan a trip to these sites. Keep up the good work! (Also, this is a fitting video as I could have mistaken you for Heather Lind from Turn. )
Wow, thank you very much for the compliment!
A fun fact about the three militiamen that he confided to, is that they had recently broken out of British imprisonment. While on the run, John approached them thinking they were Brit’s and spilled the tea on his plans.
The odds of this situation unfolding the way it did is absolutely astonishing.
Thank you so very much for this wonderful video, I found it searching for videos on Andre & yours was first on the list :)
I was well aware of the story of Major Andre before the show Turn came to be. As a history nerd & former soldier, I have spent many years researching military history, so naturally the whole story of Benedict Arnold’s defection was something I was quite familiar with. What I did not know about Andre was how complex of a man he was, the show, Turn, illiterates that part of him very well. The actor who portrayed Andre did a fantastic job. It was hard to grow to love this character for 2-3 years knowing what his fate was to be. Then came the mixed emotions of feeling gutted by watching a good man die so young but also very appreciative of the show for their high degree of historical accuracy.
Call me biased if you will, coming from the losing side of the war, but I always felt he was wrongly executed. He had a strong defence argument & his frankness to the tribunal gave his testimony a great deal of credibility; he felt he did nothing ‘wrong’ so had nothing to hide. He was but a POW who was being punished for someone else’s offences. The Continental Army was rightly mad, but they took out that frustration on a good man.
“I do not seek the respect of my contemporaries, for that is too easy; to be a truly good man you should seek the respect of your foes”
(Forget who said that & the wording may be slightly off cuz that’s from memory off the top of my head)
I agree--in a perfect world, Arnold would have suffered for his own crimes. Alas, it was not to be. At the very least, Andre has gone down in history as a good man, respected by those on both sides. Which is more than can be said for Arnold! Thank you for watching
That Capture Monument doesn’t mark the ACTUAL spot he was captured.
The show ‘Turn’ is a great entry way to learning about André, but once you start reading the books - you’ll learn that a lot of overtures were taken with his character. The older the book, the better. Take it from somebody who owns 54 first edition John André books ;)
The show turn did a horrible job with the capture of André. It slandered the character of the captors in a most disrespectful way. The three men were brave patriots that had sacrificed so much, and still chose their country over personal gain.
T In StL I will agree they really botched the whole capture and execution entirely. HOWEVER, I will say based off what I have read on André- the mixed sentiments over the Captors business etc. have been going on longer than we have been alive I’m afraid. TURN captured that divisiveness when Tallmadge spoke up for André years later on that final scene he did...
I will say liberties were expected to be taken for entertainment reasons, but my biggest issue overall was they turned André into somebody who couldn’t function without Peggy Shippen... when in fact the evidence available only shows they were friends/acquaintances. They really sexualized André, when in fact he was nothing of the sort.
@@hollygarland9085 the two sentiments have swung back and forth throughout our history. It really often boils down to Elites vs. Commoners. Tallmadge and Andre were largely the same type on differing sides, and they shared a world outlook regarding the rabble and their honor. The fact that the Captors were revered and honored, while many other brave patriots went without recognition also stuck in Tallmadge's craw.
Tom Spalding I definitely agree there is a lot of unknown and controversy over the Captors & what they were doing the morning André was captured. Even though Egbert Benson published a “Vindication of the Captors of Major André” , there are several other mentions and comments about the captors throughout all my reading...
I also STRONGLY recommend reading another one of my faves that Joshua Hett Smith published 1808, his Narrative... THAT really was an eye opener for me!!!! History may also dim how Smith was viewed, but what he said in that narrative lines up with everything else I’ve read.
Loved that, THX so much
Blessed be the memory of the hero, John Andre
Thank you so much for this video. I just finished watching Turn last night and John Andre was the one person I wanted to learn more about. Thanks for sharing all the locations too and I'll definitely be checking some of them out. Between Turn and watching Hamilton at least a half dozen times, I'm getting my fill of The American Revolution during this lockdown summer.
Thanks for watching, Tim! I'm right there with you. Earlier this year (right before lockdown...) I started getting interested in the American Revolution, and after watching Turn it became my favorite thing to learn about, ha. Which is convenient considering how many interesting Revolution-related places are super close to NYC where I live! (I'm not sure if you follow me on Instagram -- @thecuriousworld -- just today I visited Morristown, NJ where the Continental Army stayed during the winter of 1779 - 1780. I posted some IG stories about it.) Oh, and of course I've also been listening to Hamilton a bunch :)
Tim, if you are able to track down the BiCentennial Celebration map published up there in the 1970s, a reporter followed the whole entire loop/path he took. I used that a few years back and managed to find EVERY single spot André stopped at. Only place I did not go was upstate to where one of the captors were buried... William Abbatt’s Crisis of the Revolution does a GREAT job outlining Andre’s stops!!! Highly recommend. He also redid Sargent’s André bio just after the turn of the century - best André bio out there if you can find it (the one Sargent redid in 1902.) Treason House and many other stops burned down around the turn of the century. Must read BOTH.
Major John Andre' capture is an important event in history that matters till this day. My Maternal Grandmother was a Holocaust Survivor. General Eisenhower call for D-Day led to millions of people being alive today.
Very well done - I too came to the same interest in John Andre after watching Turn. I have not gone to all the locations you’ve been to, but I did find a NYS historical sign in Mahopac, NY stating something about the court martial convoy passing that location. All just FYI - and thank you for this great and interesting video!
Very cool! Thanks for watching :)
This was outstanding!! Highly recommend the Arnold bio by James Kirby Martin. Member of the West Point faculty when he led a tour of the Hudson Highlands. Great video! Thank you!
Thank you for watching :) I will look into that book--thanks!
I just watched Turn and was turned on to the history. I live in Rockland and have started to explore all the sites around here and in Westchester where all this happened. Thanks for your work and your passion for this time and these places. Great video.
Thank you for checking out my video! These sites are definitely worth a visit. I hope you enjoy the exploration!
Washington had another outpost in Palisades down in Snedens Landing. Many years later, the locals dismantled it in order to build their homes. There is a lot of history in Palisades that people aren’t aware of. It was truly a paradise to grow up in.
Excellent presentation.....
first time i see your videos.- I am a history buff, and history narated by such a beatiful person is an amazement for the ears, and the eyes !
oh wow, you made this video just last year. hahaha I guess i will make a visit to all these places soon. kinda wanna experience the history, and of course the show TURN.
Excellent video and retelling of a great story. Andre was held captured in Pennsylvania prior to becoming Adj. General of the British Army. I've researched and visited his entire journey. I love the Hudson Valley
Thanks for watching :) The Hudson Valley is such a great place -- so beautiful and so much history!
This is so awesome, Thank you for doing this.
Thank you so much! :)
Fantastic video. I live right down the street from here and grew up in the area. I have eaten at the 76 house a couple of times and it has excellent food should anyone decide to try it. The 76 house has so much rich history, as does that area. I know a lot about it and I'm even trying to find a house nearby to live in, lol. Also, fun fact, one of his toes went missing after the hanging and to this day no one knows where it went.
Thanks so much :) I really want to go back and try the food at the 76 House! Also--I'd never heard about the toes thing. Definitely going to read up on that--that's crazy!
While researching for a new novel, my writing partner in the US came across this clip, it has inspired us to change the course of our next novel towards a modern day revenge of André fate.
Thank you from Australia, for taking the time to put this highly informative clip together. I must, by definition, subscribe to your channel for further ideas for more stories to tell.
That's awesome! Sounds like a great topic, I hope to read that novel someday! Thanks for watching :)
@@TheCuriousWorld keep in touch and I would be honoured to send you a copy for you to add a review to, after all... It is through you that my writing partner and I started this project, it's the least we can do to say thank you.
Well done. Excellent video. Going to the various locations really brought this alive. I live in northern NJ so I plan on visiting these sites one day.
Thanks so much :) I definitely recommend visiting Tarrytown at the very least if you haven't already -- it's a cute town and they have a lot to do there during Halloween season!
@@TheCuriousWorldI know I posted this 3 years ago but this is the summer I plan on visiting all of these sites over a weekend. I also visited Mount Vernon this spring. Thanks for the video!
Here after watching the show. Great job!
Thanks so much :)
Thanks for videos
Thank you for this. I grew up in Tappan where the Dutch Church, the DeWint House and the 76 House are but never quite knew the story even though I have been to all of the important places during school trips. Moved to Florida but now I need a trip back to NY!
Thanks for watching, Chris. I feel you--I grew up in upstate NY where plenty of important events happened, but I never really retained any of the info from school trips or anything. Better late than never!
Thank you so very much. I was searching for information on Benedict Arnold & his treachery & your video gave me all that I need & more as you turned what may have once been a Sow's Ear kinda story into a Silken Purse. I'm a Brit like John Andre .I shall visit & pay homage to his grave in Westminster Abbey;, the next time I'm in London.
I have a crush on Major John Andre! And cannot learn enough about this spy ring! Great video!
A very good video. Thanks for the time you put into it.
Thanks very much!
Thank you so much for such detail of this moment in history, I was watching the series... And working on the family tree, and was surprised to find out my 6th great grandfather, was one of the three militia that captured major Andre but the series stated they were hunters thank you again for a great story
Very cool, thanks for watching!
This is an awesome video. I can tell it took a lot of effort.
Thank you so much :)
How enjoyable. Sure like to hear your enthusiasm for these stories.
Thank you!
Really interesting. Thank you very much for doing all this research!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate you watching!
This was a really informative and interesting video, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
I remember learning about this when I watched the TV series Turn, I was so sad to learn that it actually happened, excellent video! :(
Absolutely :( -- Thank you for watching!
@@TheCuriousWorld No problem thanks for taking the time to talk about some history I feel should have been taught in schools!
Thank you for this episode. I got to tell my son about one of his grand pops; Isaac Van Wart. Inside an early 19th century box engraved with a depiction of the capture is one of the clasps that help up Andre’s stockings. Pretty cool if you’re me or if you’re almost 10. Stay Gold, B.
Thanks for watching! Are you saying that somewhere on display is a pin from Andre's stocking?? I've never heard of this
You, my friend, need your own history channel show!!
Terrific work, Ms. Barbara, from a Loyalist, North of the Big Lakes.☮
Why thank you very much!
Great video, I also was introduced to major Andre”s story by watching the Turn. I live in northern NJ, therefore I visited 76 House which became my favorite restaurant, also absolutely agree, Sleepy Hallow great town to visit. Greetings
I still haven't eaten at the 76 House, but it's high on my list. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for doing the video and very well done! I told my husband that he has to take me to the 76 house sometime.
The 76 House is definitely worth a visit for the decor alone. I'll have to go back and try their food sometime. Thank you for watching!
@@TheCuriousWorld Thank you for doing the video. Major John Andre' is one of my ancestors on my paternal side. It means alot that people still care about him.
If John hadn't got caught with the plans of West Point on him I and Millions of people never would have been born.
My Maternal Grandmother was a Holocaust Survivor. She was slave labor deep in nazi Germany. The Nazis were going to murder the slaves in the town where see was held. They were going to kill them at 5 o'clock but the Allies came into town at 4:45.
General Eisenhower's call for D-Day saved Millions. History is ripples through time.
Outstanding! Thanks for your effort!
Thanks for watching :)
Thank you for this video. It was great!! I live in NJ. Road trip to NY. coming up! Thank you for your research.
Nice! Thanks for watching!
I am writing my MA Thesis about the Culper Spy Ring hahah. I am currently writing the chapter about Arnold and Andre
Thank You. Very interesting.
I read a book "SPY" in english (I have not fully understanded it) about a commis voyageur, who remained a traitor for evetybody (exept J. Washington) until the end of his life
If that's the book by James Fenimore Cooper, it's one of my favorites.
Awesome video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching :)
Well done!
As a fan of Andre's complicated and unfortunate story I enjoyed your video. For anyone interested, I highly recommend "The Life and Career of Major John Andre, Adjutant-General of British Army in America", by Winthrop Sargent.
Thank you for watching, and thanks for the book recommendation!
Major John Andre' is one of my ancestors. It deeply touches me that people still care about him. My Maternal Grandmother was a Holocaust Survivor. John's death lead to millions of people being alive because of D-Day.
Great Job!
Thanks!
Good job 👏🏼
Very interesting! Thanks
TURN brought me here =)
Me too, haha
@@TheCuriousWorld I want more history shows like this!
thanks for the info, it was interesting to see)
Thanks for watching :)
Peggy Shippen, Arnold's wife was part of this whole thing too. After Arnold escaped at WestPoint, Washington entered the house where he was suppose to have breakfast that morning hosted by Shippen. Shippen put on an a crazy act pretending she had no idea what her husband had been up to. Washington apparently believed her but who knows he may have secretly suspected that she had a role. The crazy act she put on allowed Arnold to escape. I'm not surprised Arnold had money problems, his wife was high maintenance.
LOL! ...Hi Arnolds wife Peggy Margaret Shippen is 1st cousins thru my Virginia Ancestors, HER FAMILY WERE VERY WEALTHY LOYALISTS!!!!! THEY HAD MONEY!
@@KevinGSmith-mi8js Good ole daddy to her financial rescue then. She was a spoiled brat most likely. She was a traitor and if Arnold/Andre and Peggy had been successful, Washington would have been caught and hung. Peggy should have been hung as far as I'm concerned. I don't know whether Washington believed her little act. Maybe he didn't but decided to let it go because she was a woman, who knows. Cool, you're first cousins. I'm 3rd cousins to John Adams, 5th to George Washington and 1st step cousin to Benjamin Franklin (my 7th great grandmother was his step grandmother). Also 3rd cousin to Benjamin Tallmadge. I'm glad that my ancestors were patriots. And that includes my numerous ancestors that fought in the AR.
Just finished watching TURN and it made me do my on look into the history and is sad not alot of people knew about this side of the war.
I, like you, went down a rabbit hole after watching, TURN. I've now watched countless videos, lectures, and am in the midst of reading biographies.
You and I seem to relate with our viewpoints and empathy for the both of them, for me, more John then Benedict, as ultimately, John was aiding the treason but still loyal to his own cause.
For me, it is easier to overlook the idea of 'spying', and supposed rules of war, more, then a complete betrayal of one's loyalties. I'm sad that John's life was cut so short, at the height of his career, and John absolutely paid for the crimes of Arnold, but I to am wanting to read a more detailed account of Arnold's life to see if I might persuade my views.
Awesome video. Enjoyed the tour at some of the sights that I hope soon, I'll be able to explore myself.
Thank you, Robert! I definitely plan to read a biography or two about Arnold in the near future, too. He's a really complex character, painted with a pretty broad brush in everyday American lore. Thanks for watching!
@@TheCuriousWorld
If you find a good one, let me know.
I am currently reading the life of major John Andre: the red coat who turned Arnold, ill let you know if it's worth a read.
wonderful watch.
broo. jj feild was amazing as andre. i was sad for 4 days after i watched the episode when he died
He was soooo good! I often randomly think about his last scene and feel sad, ha
I saw the episode when it originally aired and I'm still moved to tears by his final moments.
Wonderful! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
This is a great video. I really enjoyed it. Ive read a few books on Benedict Arnold and he had a deeply flawed character. He was overly obsessed with himself. Everything he did was about furthering his wealth and fame. Ironically, his flawed character prevented him from achieving either which is normally the case. Sometimes I catch myself thinking, "What if he didn't do it? American History would have been so kind to him at this point". This is where the pity comes from. Unfortunately "what ifs" are just a mental game we play. He did it and as you said paid the ultimate historical price for he's been reduced to nothing, by everyone.
I love this comment. Well said!
Lol the "Arnold just had a fatal flaw that made him do it," is such a cop out narrative.
Geoff Bosco it’s not a cop out. That fatal flaw made him an intolerable asshole
Excuse me to butt in this conversation Benedict Arnold was a misunderstood man!
Wonderful. Thank you for this.
Thank you for watching!
George the 3rd so admired Andre that he built a monument to him in Westminster. The box that contained his remains is also available at Westminster to view.
An amazing documentary, thank you. You're great in this genre. It was interesting to get to know one more episode of the American history. You're doing a great job educating the others about your country - such things open borders and minds even in the time of distancing and limits.
There's only one thing - I wouldn't feel sorry for the traitor. Even if he was mistreated by his own nation at some point, he did the worst thing ever - he not just passed the document to the enemy, he sold it. So, it was solely for a personal profit, not for revenge, and then he just saved his skin.
But about John Andrè - definitely, he was a brave guy. Good that he was not forgotten by British, and they took his remnants back home.
Thank you! And I agree, Benedict Arnold made his decision for profit (though there were some other factors that led him to even consider changing sides). Regardless of reason, he is rightly considered a traitor. But nearly 250 years later, I think it's valuable to consider the *why* and not just the *what,* if only just out of scholarly interest.
@@TheCuriousWorld True, *the why* is the most important thing we shall preserve out of the history, as even if we forget about *the what* one day, this *the why* will serve us, helping to avoid the mistakes of the past, and maybe to repeat some of things that are worth repeating. Thank you again. :)
@@zhuravlik26 Well said :) Thanks for watching!
@@knochengier Bridget told us he was a Huguenot. I.e., a descendant of people who flew France in the Middle Ages, because they were followers of the reformed church, and the Catholic France wasn't very fond of them due to that reason.
@@zhuravlik26, in actuality it wasn't the Middle ages, but the late 1500 to early 1600s during which the religious wars of the Protestant Reformation savaged Europe. The St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre in Paris and throughout France resulted in the brutal murders of thousands of Huguenot Protestant French. The survivors fled; many to England.
Thank you so much for putting together this informative video. I am enjoying “TURN” on Netflix and I was researching the topic after watching the episode and found your video. I am looking for a book on Benedict Arnold if you have any recommendations. I am also interested in the role Peggy Shippen played in Arnold’s defection. I live in Central NJ and I keep Using Google maps to check out the locations of the places detailed in the series. A “TURN” road trip is in my future....
Thank you so much, Jeff! I was the same way after watching Turn. I even took a quick day trip to Setauket :) I'll probably make a video about that at some point. I'm very interested in learning more about Benedict Arnold as well! Some recommendations I have been given are "Benedict Arnold, Revolutionary Hero: An American Warrior Reconsidered" by James Kirby Martin (amzn.to/3kIQEpN) and "Valiant Ambition" by Nathaniel Philbrick (amzn.to/35JyYpI). I haven't read either of them, but I do plan to read at least the Kirby Martin one, as it came with high praise. Those links are affiliate links, but you can just google the names if you'd rather not use them! As for Peggy Shippen, another commenter recommended a *historical fiction* book called "The Traitor's Wife" by Allison Pataki (amzn.to/3pJkwG2). Not sure if there are any other books specifically on her. I agree, she's a very interesting figure!
Good work telling the story. I grew up near Tappan and we all knew the Andre story and all of the associated places. Perhaps I missed something in your video, but did you make clear, when you started to show the Dutch Reform Church and the '76 House, that you were no longer in Sleepy Hollow, but now across the river in Tappan, and then went back to Sleep Hollow for the execution? I think it's interesting that they kept transporting him back and forth across the Hudson. I think the music you use could be replaced with something less distracting. Thanks for the video, though! Good information.
You may be interested in a 2 volume set of books "Andre's Journals" published by The Bibliophile Society in Boston, 1913. This was my great Grandfather's company, and I am fortunate to have his 2 volume set of these Journals. You can find them on rare book sites and are reasonably priced. The books are beautiful and contain his maps and words from his journals. The scene in Turn of his execution are words right from his journals! Thank you for this video!
Thank you for this information!
Came to learn more about MAJ John Andre, pleasantly surprised by the charming presenter.
:) Thank you!
Wow...That was great. I live at west Point!
Great video
Thanks :)
Well done
Awesome video! You should be a history teacher!!
Excellent video. Could you include the location of the 76 house?
Thanks--it's in Tappan (same town he was hanged in). The Old '76 House - 110 Main St, Tappan, NY 10983
Brilliant job . My only quibble is that I think you mentioned more than once that Andre had to
Walk back.Not a scholar , but all I’ve ever read indicates he was on horseback from Hett House to Tarrytown.
You're absolutely right! I realized shortly after posting the video that I had made him out to be on foot. He was definitely traveling by horse. Thanks for watching :)
@@TheCuriousWorld Oh my pleasure and education !