EVERY ACOLYTE THEORY So Far - Star Wars Prequels, Palapatine & Knights of Ren!
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May is the one who taught him
I have a theory that power of many is more than just a saying or 2 people. It’s them merging into 1 unit, giving their power to another. the night the Jedi arrived the witches confronted the Jedi. They merged their powers into mother Anasaya. She was completely dominating the Jedi because she had the power of many. Then one of the Jedi killed her. Which killed all the rest of the coven.
Also Qimir could be influenced by these witches because acsension ceremony allowed them to become a force ghost. He agreed to seek revenge for them in return for more power. Could explain why he was absolutely yeet 8 Jedi with 1 force push.
@@xjezzakai324 it’s May who taught him the dark side
If I'm right about the helmet being lord momin may I have a job XD I'll take unpaid intern that lives in your old flip phone
On the channel Star Wars Meg, she rewatched the Acolyte and she noticed a hooded figure standing with the Covenant during their Ritual… possibly the Master???
Theories, I’ve got theories!
Qaimir was the result of the mother’s first try at creating a child through the force, but because it resulted in a male child he was kept separate from the coven, hence the furtive glances between the mothers when Osha and Mae lament there being no other children there. After the fire he finds Mae under the bunta tree.
Qaimir is a wannabe Sith. He’s self taught from information/books/artifacts that the coven had. He could have been the reason Jedi went all ACAB and slaughtered the witches.
Bunnies! It could be bunnies!
That's def not that far fetched of an idea
The best theory I’ve heard so far bro
If true, perhaps he has a brother yet to be revealed in the series. If so, still more theories, there could be. Far darker implications as well, one that could unite them against Osha and Mae in a pair of Force dyads coming together or, more likely, pitting themselves against each other in an ultimate sibling rivalry. After all, conflicts are more interesting stories than a kumbaya worth telling in any saga.
@abeautifuldayful maybe part of what makes a dyad is the conflict and overcoming it
@abeautifuldayful That would be fun to see that Qimir was actually two force siblings (prototypes/gen 1?) like Mae and Osha.
I like the idea about Qimir being excommunicated because he was male and returning. But what if HE killed the witches and started the fire as retribution?! Then manipulated Mae all this time. It's very interesting. 😅😅😅
That’s not much of a dark secret that would drive Kelnacca and Torbin into self-imposed exile though. They must have done something terrible. Qimir does clearly have an intimate knowledge of what occurred though… like he had been there… not to mention that Mae and Qimir seem to have a long history. It may be that Qimir’s parents rescued Mae from the burned out castle.
I've always felt that Osha and Mae not being identical twins in their youth but are identical now was intentional. Hearing the Fight Club theory makes total sense.
Or more likely they couldn't film with one child actress for two different parts, like some child labour time restrictions, or just because of how physically interactive they were with each other.
This is not as good as my theory. The twins were eventually also eaten by Yoda and Yaddle. This is why no one in the Phantom Menace knows about them.
I think you guys are giving Headlen way too much credit for her creativity in film making
The triangle could also represent the master, the apprentice and the acolyte
I like this
My theory is that when osha learns the truth of what sol did, she will become the acolyte, and when Mia sees that the Jedi are not the horrible demons she thinks they are she will be ‘redeemed’. I could be horribly wrong though.
i totally agree! HOWEVER i believe towards the end the twins would be on the same side against the big bad evil who may deform into plagueous
Mae being the one to hear the truth from Sol's POV may clash from what she was told is gonna be a contrast to Osha hearing the truth from The Stranger's POV. Perhaps reversing the roles of the twins.
I think this is highly likely!
This is smart
I love how Coltin takes casually che ks his headphones every time we're reminded to NOT TELL HIM he's eternally trapped in TV 👌🏽 great touch Colton, you are the G.O.A.T. 😂
I just wanna give it to screen crush on the way he slips sponsorships into the video each time like he’s great at it 😂 he would have been a great sales man
Doug is such a good actor. Hope he's ok. The "I'm bleeding" did send me though. lol
I just skip that part...
I wanna give it to @ScreenCrush for more than that. There is such painful rampant negativity, divisiveness and toxicity amongst the fandom. I’m a massive X-Men fan, and before X-Men ‘97, toxic fans were churning out all kinds of negative garbage about something they’d never seen. This is nothing new for Star Wars fans, but the Acolyte is the worst I’ve seen it. In both situations, ScreenCrush was an oasis of love for the content and never let the stink of the insanity impact him, before or after their release.
@ScreenCrush doesn’t participate. He’s like a reporter: he stays unbiased and addresses the content in the same playful fashion every time. He doesn’t attack or complain, he just breaks things down and has fun with it. Even when I don’t enjoy an episode of something, there’s no resentment toward him or the channel bc he always sticks to the job and does the best he can with the material for what it is. I can never tell what he likes more than anything else bc he never loses enthusiasm and kindness and playfulness. It’s such an admirable trait and you can just tell he’s prob a great person to work with, a great friend, and a great father.
@@danlaplante that definitely true
@@danlaplante SC is how I skip the grift, I'm too old & too short on free time to argue Star Wars. Especially ~20 minute episodes after skipping the intros, recaps & credits once a week.
I’m not convinced about the force projection part because if that were true then Jecki’s fight with Mae would’ve had her flying straight through her and into a wall. Luke used force projection and it has already been established they’re just realistic holograms that you still can’t actually touch.
Great episode, Ryan. Here is my unified theory:
1. Qimir is not Sith, he is failed youngling that was kicked out of the Jedi temple after he failed to get his LS crystal on Ilum, or not chosen as a a Padiwan, or was too week in the Force and couldn't complete the trials. Hence why he asked Sol why he didn't recognize him. He is hurt, dejected, angry, and wants revenge or justice as he sees it.
2. Like Count Dooku, he came from a family of means, so was able to research about the dark side and the Sith from lot he learned in Jedi Pre-School, seeking power or to become more powerful.
3. In his travels, he ran across the coven or Mae after the fire, and has used that knowledge to his advantage.
4. He will either win against Sol or be at the moment of victory Plagueis and/or Tenebrous will show up, sensing the dark disturbance in the Force like Palpatine did when Maul and Savage Opress took over. Qimir is drawing too much attention and will upend the great Sith Plan.
This will allow what Ki Adi Mundi said in Phantom Menace to be true ... from a certain point of view...
I wanna know what that machine was in the witches fortress with triangles all over it! Could it be a essence transfer machine? What’s with all the triangles and the witches? Go google Shmi Skywalker dress and look at her belt, look at Mother Koril’s necklace it’s a metal version of Anakins when he said goodbye to his mother!
Sol met him when searching for Mae. That’s why he asked why he didn’t remember him. He had his mask on at the time.
THEORY AND EASTER EGG YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED: Episode 3- Destiny has the same title as a clone wars episode, That episode begins with a quote saying "Death is a Beginning." and follows Yoda learning how to become one with the force. I don't think its an accident due to the entire witch coven dying. Maybe they live on in Mae? Saying death was only the beginning of their journey in the force? Also one of the songs in the next episode is named “Journeys End and Begin.” (THIS IS A REPOST FROM MY COMMENT ON THE LAST VIDEO I REALLY WANT YOU TO SEE IT)
Interesting
Good ear!!! Good eye!!!
I think there's a bigger man behind on the show. Like the villan
Rumor has it that actor David Harewood is playing a Darth Plagueis or Tenebris!
I tend to agree with you, Joe. If we take some of the dates and descriptions from the LEGENDS lore about Sith Masters and apprentices at this time (132 BBY), we see that the big secret Sith Lord working in the shadows is in fact Rugess Nome, also known as DARTH TENEBROUS. According to "The Tenebrous Way" short story by Matthew Stover, Rugess Nome was born some time between 247 BBY and 167 BBY. Now, Manny Jacinto, who portrays Qimir, is at the age in 2024 where his character would have been born around 170 BBY, which fits within the tail end of the time period when Nome/Tenebrous would have been born. Of course, Tenebrous is believed to be a Bith - so perhaps Qimir isn't Tenebrous, but is his apprentice - or maybe he is, but not a Bith - we'll see. Also, the "Darth Plagueis" novel by James Luceno gives us a couple of elusive clues as to the year of Plagueis' birth: either 147 BBY or 130 BBY. So, if Plagueis was around at the time of "The Acolyte," (132 BBY) then he would have been way too young or not yet born. But Tenebrous is definitely alive and well at this time, and won't be murdered by his apprentice Darth Plagueis until 67 BBY - 65 years later, according to LEGENDS.
I believe that Qimir was their first failed attempt at creating a force diad. Because he was born male and alone he was kept separate from the covenant. He was gifted with the force and learned from watching them train the twins once they were born. He has some deep attachment to the girls as they were favored and trained by the covenant.
Did he detonate the machine in the fortress causing the explosion and fire?
I'm with you. It's no Andor, or even Bad Batch (warts and all), but it's not as bad as Rise or Boba Fett. Or even Kenobi, which definitely could have been better given what I've heard was the original pitch. I guess it could still flub the ending, but the visceral hatred is just crazy.
That's the funny thing about the ridiculous hate. Disney has made some really bad Star Wars things and none yet have been review bombed so hard that the score goes lower than the Holiday special. I can understand not being interested in every average Disney+ series, I can understand not liking the show, but why are the haters so invested in this? Why didn't they care this much when Rise of Skywalker was bad? Everyone agrees it was a huge let down, but it didn't elicit a reaction like this. That was supposed to be the finale for a blockbuster film series than spanned decades, but what really matters is this middling prequel spin-off streaming series? It's bizarre.
It's a good show I have Disney plus but I'm downloading it to watch on my laptop with headphones on, really cool music and sound editing in this show, it's in my top 3 new star wars shows, it's as good as andor or mando season 1 and 2, it's way better than ashoka
Agreed. At this point in the show it is probably the fourth or fifth best Disney Star Wars entry. Clearly not the best, but far from the worst.
@@AbjectPermanence they'd been primed for months from people with some pre-existing bias feeding them sound bytes and out of context interview snippets to make them think the entire project was an attack on their core values or manhood or whatever. Then it just snowballed. It never had a chance with them
@@lebrown5075 yea let's just forget the lore breaking that happens for no reason Or even the fact that they changed the characters age and made the jedi council look extremely dumb. Even the writing is subpar and characters feel under developed. The fact that they literally took away what made anikens so unique. The show isn't being hated on for the reasons you think, some people are just fed up at how the franchise is being treated and the fact that the legends star wars was way better than whatever disney is coming out with. The only good things that came out of disney star wars was mando S1 and 2 and andor. Rise didn't get this treatment because people were hopeful that they would course correct at some point. Just because people don't agree with your view doesn't make them bigots.
My theory is the Stranger (Qimar) is the secret love child of Mother Aniseya and Master Sol. Don't forget, they live on the same planet. And, the dialog between Sol and the Stranger remains peculiar.
Sol: Who are you?
Stranger: You don't remember me?
Sol: I sense something familiar.
This! I came here to say exactly this. How did the Jedi know there were children there? Sol knew there were. The exchange between them that you mention above, his mastery of the force and the fact he can 'get inside their heads' like Osha says her mother could.
That quote part. I have a theory about that. What if Qimir was acctualy a young child, whom was left without a home after the jedi (Scenes we havent seen yet), was involved in an inccident, and the witch Covvet found him, and raised him. Later he would use that covvet to do some masterplan we havent seen yet, but the 4 jedis who were there stopped his plan, and since we see Sol spying on the Covvet, he could've also almost senced or seen "The Master", after he found out what the jedi were planning. Therefore Qimir started the fire, killed the witches, but The mother, and blamed it all on the jedi, to stay secret.
I like the idea that multiple dark side force groups are cooperating, including the witch covens, perhaps the Knights of Ren and others, and the Sith are the ones orchestrating and holding this loose alliance together. This still preserves The Rule Of Two, as much as it's been preserved, because The Sith have never had qualms about working with other groups so long as they're serving Sith goals. I doubt Qimir will survive until the end of the series, maybe casually cut down by Darth Plagueis after completing his errand. He's is the big bad I really want to see, even if he's still hiding in the shadows.
My theory: Master Sol will end up being the titular “acolyte” by the end. Mae and Osha are red herrings and this is NOT their story. Qimir IS a Sith apprentice who wants to be a master, but no longer answer to any preexisting dogma. He wants to leave his master, not overthrow him. He wants to follow his own path and with no rules and have his own student to train. We will learn what happened at the temple: Sol and the other Jedi discover how the witches manipulated the midichlorians to create life. The witches defended themselves by entering the minds of the Jedi to turn them against each other and ended up breaking their Jedi conditioning to suppress their darkness and lost control of them, which leads to the witches dying in the cross fire. The Jedi are NOT struggling with guilt, because they were not in control of their actions. The witches were killed before properly releasing them from the spell, and now the Jedi ARE struggling to put the genie back in the bottle, so to speak. Sol will end up defeating Qimir, but only by giving in to his anger. He will fall to the dark side and be a worthy replacement apprentice for whoever Qimir’s master is, and be known henceforth as Darth Plagueis. This whole show is an origin story for Plagueis, and we’ve been watching him and rooting for him the whole time.
and THAT is how you subvert fan expectations in a Star War 😂
Thank you for being a light during these dark dark "theoretical" times. Some people have completely ripped the joy out of Star Wars in pursuit of their culture wars
Let’s have a High Republic show with Jecki and Yord! Maybe 3 seasons that take place before The Acolyte. I could watch her duel 24/7
Why did she have to die!!!! Resurrect HER RIGHT NOW SMILO!!!!
I think the main reason Qimir goes to Osha at end of last episode was not only to replace Mae and tell her the truth of what the Jedi did... but SHE DEFEATED HIM WITHOUT A WEAPON...exactly what he was asking Mae to do...
Palpatine clearly lied to Anakin about Plagueis. He tells Anakin that Plagueis' apprentice stole all his secrets, but then after Anakin turns, Palpatine says they can discover Plagueis' secrets together. He also said that the story of Plagueis is a Sith legend, except if Palpatine killed Plagueis then it's something that happened relatively recently. How can it be a Sith legend if it happened in Palpatine 's lifetime and it's something that only Palpatine would know about?
I always thought this. How can it be a legend if you killed him last week lol
Obviously he lied about some of the details, like how HE was the apprentice and this happened fairly recently. But Anakin had no way of knowing this, and everything about Palps was a lie. Deception is one of the dark side tools that Sith use to achieve their goals.
@@kovie9162I don't have too much of a problem with Anakin believing Palpatine, he's naive and emotionally conflicted, making him easy to manipulate. I just don't get why so many Star Wars fans think Palpatine was telling the truth. We literally saw three movies of Palpatine lying to everyone and tricking both the Republic and the Separatists. He is clearly not a trustworthy person, but fans act like everything he tells Anakin is 100% true.
Palpatine is a liar and a manipulator. He knew how to goad Anakin to the Dark Side. Palpatine knew that once Anakin crossed over and murdered all the younglings and Force Choked his wife Anakin would go all-in on the Dark Side.
It's fairly obvious that at least some portion of the conversation you're referring to was a lie. And it was fairly obvious back in 2005. Part 1) Sith legend: obvious lie because all research/knowledge of the Sith is strictly controlled by the Jedi (rather, all the knowledge that they have collected over the thousands of years they've held power is strictly controlled) so therefore how can Palpatine have ANY knowledge of it at all? Anakin should have caught on to this detail and confronted him, but of course Anakin was too busy worrying about how to save Padme. Part 2) learned how to cheat death: obvious lie because Palpatine is baiting the hook for Anakin, and it's a lie because Palpatine tells him after the death of Mace Windu that *oh, oops* only his master actually figured that out, but "together we'll figure it out" (even though if Anakin had used his brain AT ALL he'd have perhaps realized that a guy who manipulated both sides of a galactic civil war in order to gain power and eliminate the Jedi, killing billions across the galaxy in the process, PROBABLY doesn't really care if your wife lives or dies)
I think Koril is pulling the strings behind the scenes. You never see her dead during the flashback. She is telling Qimir the backstory about the Jedi and Sol.
This, I agree with
Hey Ryan, Doug, and all. Okay hear me out. If we take some of the dates and descriptions from the LEGENDS lore about Sith Masters and apprentices at this time (132 BBY), we see that the big secret Sith Lord working in the shadows is in fact Rugess Nome, also known as DARTH TENEBROUS. According to "The Tenebrous Way" short story by Matthew Stover, Rugess Nome was born some time between 247 BBY and 167 BBY. Now, Manny Jacinto, who portrays Qimir, is at the age in 2024 where his character would have been born around 170 BBY, which fits within the tail end of the time period when Nome/Tenebrous would have been born. Of course, Tenebrous is believed to be a Bith - so perhaps Qimir isn't Tenebrous, but is his apprentice - or maybe he is, but not a Bith - we'll see. Also, the "Darth Plagueis" novel by James Luceno gives us a couple of elusive clues as to the year of Plagueis' birth: either 147 BBY or 130 BBY. So, if Plagueis was around at the time of "The Acolyte," (132 BBY) then he would have been way too young or not yet born. But Tenebrous is definitely alive and well at this time, and won't be murdered by his apprentice Darth Plagueis until 67 BBY - 65 years later, according to LEGENDS. Feel free to double-check my numbers, and please let me know what you think.
I agree..plus rumor has it actor Dave Harewood may play Tenebrous or Plagueis! I wanna know what that machine was in the witches fortress with triangles all over it! Could it be a essence transfer machine? What’s with all the triangles and the witches? Go google Shmi Skywalker dress and look at her belt, look at Mother Koril’s necklace it’s a metal version of Anakins when he said goodbye to his mother!
I want Tom Hiddleston as young Sidious series.
Guys u gotta get past the idea that one of them isn't real. They are literally in 2 places right now. Oshawa is with Qimir and Mae is with Sol.
Exactly like they didn't watch😂
Yep.
I appreciate that y'all are spending time trying to figure out the acolyte mystery and how it adds to the lore instead of wasting your time saying how bad this writing is like all the other haters out there. I really think acolyte is adding a ton to the lore.
At the end, Osha technically finished that “final lesson,” defeating a force user without a weapon.
You have to kill them, not just defeat them, and it has to be a Jedi. Qimir did it, by snapping Yord's neck, but neither of the twins did.
And the light she used was technically a weapon in this case as it got the bug's to attack
@@arrscottywell897 tool, not weapon.
@@rustyshackleford8434 If you used a hammer to kill or attack some one isn't it now a weapon not a tool?
I agree that the Mother is the Sith Master over Qimir. However I think it is Mother Koril rather than Mother Aniseya.
Qimir is the Sith apprentice. Both he and his master were present at the Ascension ceremony. They hellped the witches create life, they saved Mae from the fire, and ultimately they set up the events leading to the fire in order to remove the witches from the equation. Statistics suggest that sooner or later one of my theories will be correct, and this could be the one.
So they used the witches as a baby mamas. +1
Idk if anyone has had this idea but
I think the secret is that the koral mom killed her own coven since they agreed to let osha go and koral never wanted her too and she wanted to kill the Jedi pretty bad.Sol caught her in the act had to kill her ass and that’s what he’s keeping from osha. He didnt want osha to suffer more. Idk I don’t ever really put theories out there. I’m probably wrong lol
I could see Koril going Anakin on the coven and Sol killing her. I would rather see that than Koril being the master.
It's definitely better than the theory they're spewing in this video. Those girls are not the same person
Andara was getting shitfaced in that bar too. Feeling guilty.
Lol no she wasn't. If you feel guilty about something that happened 16 years ago, it doesn't mean you're going to be in a bar every day getting drunk. Especially not a Jedi
The focus on the very deliberate use of words you always talk about (because we know the SW writers really DO consider these nuances) is phenomenal- didn’t even catch the “Jedi would call me…” part!
All this wordplay REALLY gets me excited about the fight club theory, because - and this has been bothering me since episode 1 - what WAS osha doing that first night when her crewmate pokes at her about not going out? Like, this is our INTRO to osha - every single line and stitch of fabric matters THAT early on. What if the answer to that question brings the audience all back around in a series of flashbacks - JUST LIKE IN THE END OF FIGHT CLUB. 😂 I don’t even care if this is actually correct, just theorizing and toying with ideas is the best part, in itself 😃👏
If you read the Darth Bane series.. he actually did it. People are forgetting or not realizing it.
Disney destroyed all canon though. They continue to destroy all canon.
He doesn't do it, he attempts it and it's a possible imply
@@jasenbertrand with the twitching of the hand that he did for years... yes I believe that he succeeded.
@@ScytheNoireThey didn’t destroy all canon. Legends is called legends for a reason. Many of the stories in legends are still canon but the specific details were decanonized. Darth Bane and his overall story is still canon.
Is it just me, or is Ryan basically saying Yoda was a secret sith who destroyed the Nihil?
I wonder if anyone watching this video is someone who hasn’t seen “Fight Club” but decides to after the referencing. 😂
Haven’t. Won’t.
Already did with past week's videos :)
One of the twins did in fact die. Somehow the surviving fraternal twin was split into two identical people -- at the opposite ends of, and connected by, the Force.
Or some such, or other. I don't know ... bring on _Andor_ season 2.
The "Kylo-Ren" theme music playing....is the hint....the way Qimir is dressed is similar to Ancient Ren...helmet, cloak, and a bracer/gauntlet one the left arm...the theory is strong.
Great theories I hope actually come true, Dodson it's great to see you on these videos and colton I really need to get my hands on a copy of that specific star wars book 😊 you've talked about it alot
I think their mother transferred her essence into Mae.
I thought the mother was plagius. Likely not but it was one of his abilities.
The sith eternal emperor
@chrisdonahue4205 i thought that would tie everything together so nice including the old republic mmo
And koril transferred her consciousness into Qimir? That’d be amazing.
@12symmo i def dont think weve seen the last of the witches
How about this theory then? Maybe the witches have the power to transfer life essence like Palpatine. Maybe mother Koril transferred her life essence to Darth Teeth. So the line about not recognising him is because it's mother Koril in someone else's body.
Jar Jar Binks= Darth Plagueis.
THIS. To me it's the only theory that makes sense
Tenebrous is the master. Plagueis is the apprentice. Qimir is the acolyte.
I had this theory that Mae and Osha are the same soul. Not the same person. To 2 halves of a whole. The light and dark, or yen and yang. Then what if their ascension ceremony was the joining of their 2 halves into 1 whole.
If you go back to their rhyme they say to each other:
You are with me and I am with you.
Always one, but born as two.
As above sits the stars and below lies the seas,
I give you you,
And you give me me.
And then because they were interrupted it caused a diad in the force instead of a merging.
Would love some insight on if that could be plausible.
Force Diade
yep this is it!
Tbh I would like this theory to be true because it would probably be the most interesting thing introduced into Star Wars.
On the night of the fire, the Jedi discovered that the place they were at was a Sith alchemist laboratory, so the Jedi proceeded in destroying everything and killing everyone but sol got kindhearted and saved one of the girls girl. He made a connection with and I believe he also made the platform fall that supposedly killed may but saved and that’s what the Jedi were covering up, but they did commit genocide on everyone there and that’s why they exiled themselves from the Jedi order
Great Thoery…I wanna know what that machine was in the witches fortress with triangles all over it! Could it be a essence transfer machine? What’s with all the triangles and the witches? Go google Shmi Skywalker dress and look at her belt, look at Mother Koril’s necklace it’s a metal version of Anakins when he said goodbye to his mother!
It’s obvious that the acolyte is quimir the pupil trying to overthrow his master by training his own apprentice and is using this conflict between the Jedi and the sisters cult as guess what killing a Jedi without a weapon, and the master will be revealed as either teneberous or plaigues who are pleased with their acolyte being killed by the end of series thus maintaining their secret and making the Jedi believe they are extinct but also because his apprentice was not strong enough to take over as a master and thus not worth of becoming the master
I think connecting the dots is a great thing for Disney
I like the idea of a Knights of Ren connection. Like maybe he is rejected by his Sith master for revealing himself and then decides to start his own thing, the chaotic Ren's of the dark side.
ScreenCrush team I’m a huge fan! I enjoy watching your content as much as the actual tv show. Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
Y’all r so smart… i love listening to your conversing and postulating on these topics!
Theory: Why was love forbidden in the Jedi order? Did love have something to do with making a Dyad in the Force?
I've been saying for a while now that all the shows that have been made since have been trying to backdate themselves to make "somehow Palpatine has returned" stick
That one decision has set Star Wars on a tricky path.
@dewaynedawkins4573 that wasnt even the original plan too!!!! Like why? Why did they do that?
@@zachariahsmith9130 literally ANYTHING else would’ve worked.
Because "somehow Palpatine returned" is crap writing. It shouldn't be fixed. What good comes from polishing a turd?
@@ironjehoshaphat2764 For real, at this point, let it go and move on from trying to justify the sequels. Andor has done so, for the most part, and has benefited from it. Every show has become worse when they try to shoehorn in “lore” to justify Palpatine’s return.
Super video! I can’t wait for tonight’s episode ❤
Thank you for saying "nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition" in that bit. A good point was being made, but one does not simply bring up the Spanish Inquisition without referencing Monty Python. 😜
... and without referencing Mel Brooks' Spanish Inquisition... wotta show! 🤣
I’ve posted this to more than one video, but I don’t think anyone else has been talking about how it is very likely that Qimir isn’t a true Sith and the reason Ki Adi Mundi will continue to believe that no Sith have been around might be that the Jedi will find out that Qimir has been killed and find evidence that he wasn’t a Sith, but a wannabe Sith. Qimir will be killed by Darth Plagueis. Plagueis will be sure that evidence is found that Qimir was a student of the Sith by way of a holocron. At the end of the series Plagueis will report the killing to Darth Tenebrous his master.
The reason know one will know is that Sol will die and no one's left to tell the high council and in it's ignorance will not suspect that the missing jedi were by the twins. The Sith will remain secret and will set their return plan in motion.
Connection to Abeloth the Smile Darth Smilo & Abeloth same smile
Another clue to what happened to the twins tribe is that when Mae confronts Master Indara in episode one and asks her to attack her, Master Indara says “Jedi do not attack the unarmed.” Mae replies vehemently “Yes, you do!!”
With all the guilt going around the other Jedi present that day, seems pretty certain they crossed a major line.
We are just waiting for the details.
I love that Colton always pulls out the earbud when introduced
The witch coven's consciousness somehow merged and is what is giving Osha those visions. It could also be Qimir's master. 'Power of one, two, many' was repeated too often to not somehow come into play. They demonstrated how they could link up and combine 'thread' power to become stronger.
🎉🎉🎉. Let’s go with the …Mae and OSHA are 1….one is a force projectin, OSHA, she actually died. As a force projection…my only question is…someone concentrated enough to have a whole 16 years separate life?? Luke was pretty powerful. But after his Force projection his end of physical form passes on.
There are a lot of constraints that need to be kept in order to be consistent.
1) Ki Adi Mundi knows, from the Jedi's POV (the council or whatever precedes it) that the Sith are extinct. So all this must end silently.
2) The Stranger knows too much about the Jedi. He have some past with Sol (maybe a former apprentice, and not a witness from the fire back then, at the coven), He know what a Sith is, he is trained in combat but not in the traditional ways of wielding a lightsaber, he knows about the existence of cortosis (or someone gave it to him), he uses the force for healing, and he also know that a Jedi can "enter their mind." Summarizing: He knows A LOT of the Jedi culture.
3) The Stranger knows in detail what happened to that knight. He order Mae what Jedi must die for what they did. Someone (the mother?) had to tell the Stranger in detail what happened there from their POV... or, that's their POV because he were there also watching this people with "his master".
4) Jedi Espionage: The mere fact that they were in hiding in the forest was too strange. They knew something about the children or about the use of magic, and they observed from outside. Sol is guilty of something bad, the same as Kel Nanca and Torbin but something they couldn't tolerate. Sol looks more aligned with Indara, in the way they keep on with their lives.
All the triangular thing happening makes me think the Stranger is a former Jedi, there is a Master on the dark side and that master is related to the events of that night, and the Stranger is recruiting some other acolytes (I needs it). At the end of this, it all concludes in nothing more than "experience" or "know-how" for the master in the hidings, now knowing how to repeat this, but with good results. That's why "Sith no longer exist" from Ki Adi POV... the reveal here is who is behind the stranger. They will continue to operate until a new young acolyte called Plagueis enters in scene...
“Oh lawd Jesus help me now,” *thunka thunka thud-a-thunka, “oh lawd help me Jesus lawd help me!” *thunka-thud-a-thunka, “Jesus lawd, help me Jesus!” *thunka, thunka, thud… “I’m half way down!..”
lol, Eddy Murphy
Delirious
"she got a moustache"
jedi came to the witch island and discovered the twins were made with dark magic. when reported, Green lady of the high consul ordered something terrible. jedi at witch island argue over following the orders. wookie and meditating jedi go through with it, witches stand up for themselves. all hell breaks loose. people die and jedi escape with Osha....... dark teeth was liaison between sith lord and witch island. one of the twins was always promised to the dark ones.
I like the Theory..I wanna know what that machine was in the witches fortress with triangles all over it! Could it be a essence transfer machine? Does it blow up? What’s with all the triangles and the witches? Go google Shmi Skywalker dress and look at her belt, look at Mother Koril’s necklace it’s a metal version of Anakins when he said goodbye to his mother!
I’m beginning to think that Qimir was another child at the Coven. Also, that the girl/ girls and Qimir are a Dyad. “What extraordinary beings WE are.” -Qimir.
I know this won't be a popular theory, but I wonder if George Lucas intended "The tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise" to just be a story that Palpatine made up since he could see through the Force that Anakin was worried about Padme dying. So he came up with a reason to tempt Anakin toward the Dark Side.
Dyad theory, the force(1) light/dark sides(born as 2), only when together(in balance) they are the strongest(i make you you, you make me me), Anakin is a dyad in himself(mortis arc)
Maybe the first ad I’ve ever been interested in lol
Do you have any theories?
One of the 2 thing brought from legends will be essence transfer n my wild theory is Sol will become the acolyte
I feel that once Osha finds out the truth .. she will kill Sol and become the stranger's acolyte and then he will either have her kill Mae or they will bond somehow, and the diad will become a convergence in the force ... that will be maintained until they die leaving the opening for the force to create Anakin
There’s a legends book called Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void
*spoilers for the book*
The main protagonist, Lanoree Brock, learns flesh alchemy and is able to use an experiment she had going on with living tissue. It is emphasised that it’s dark side. I think the witches of Brendok basically continued this type of alchemy until they were able to create life.
Also tiny theory but I think Qimir’s line “You would call me Sith” is inspired by Moby Dick’s first line: “Call me Ishmael”. Basically two characters calling themselves a name they are not?
Yea its shit
If she was a force projection how can Jenki put handcuffs on Mae, Kylo could not attack Luke, the lightsaber just passed through him. And if Osha was one; she could not be arrested by the Jedi either.
any chance of getting a High Republic books reading list or order to follow? I'm a huge SW live action and animation nerd, but the written works seem so voluminous and daunting that I don't know where to start. Help a guy out?
Sol is the master Sith, possibly plagues. Pay attention to his contradiction
When he says “I saw mae die.”
Then later tell osha when he first re discovers her and she says mae is alive, he simply replies “I believe you”
His apprentice also questioned his attachment, he brushes it off with wisdom,
Either he’s plagues or tenebrous but yeah I feel most of his secret dialogue points to him being the master in disguise, just like palpatine and would possibly explain how he was able to get palpatine to become a politician, tying in their relations even closer leading to the galactic empire.
For sure the Jedi murdered Mae and that is the cause of all of this. That is why Sol is so sure she is dead. I could see this being true for sure. Great take!
Here's my theory of what happened on the night of the fire. The jedi decide they are going to storm the coven and take the kids. The mother posses at least some of them, if not all of them. One of them snaps out of it, and seeing the others nearly killing each other, that jedi calls on the dark side to wipe out the coven. I imagine something similar to what Elzar Mann did in The Rising Storm were he tossed that floating island into the nihil ship. In the flashback episode, the majority of the coven was laid in a pile, like it was one event that killed most of them. They weren't scattered around as if they were fighting the jedi in groups or one on one, which is what makes me think it was some huge dark side power that wiped them all out at once.
In the high republic, afterwards Elzar confesses his dark side use, and his fellow jedi don't condemn him like they do in the prequels and the clone wars. Instead, they basically have him take a sabbatical and get his head straight (administrative leave?). I think once the truth of this event is found out the jedi change their philosophy and they will no longer tolerate the use of dark side powers, falling in line with how they acted in the prequels and clone wars.
I'm also thinking that somehow Qimir is related to the coven. Whether he was a first born and was kept away from everyone because he was male, or they took him in somehow, I definitely think he was there the night of the fire hiding somewhere nearby.
Finally, I think Qimir is going to be revealed to be the acolyte of the sith apprentice, and he will either die or be thought dead before he becomes an apprentice. This way the line about sith being extinct for a millennia will still be true. I think the addition of Ki-Adi was specifically done for people to recall that line in TPM. It's possible that Qimir is training to be the future apprentice of plagueis, and plagueis plans to use him to help overthrow his master (tenebrous?)
I keep going back to what Sol said about how no one could survive the fall that Mae did. I don’t think she died- I think Plagieus brought her back to life
my theories,
1) Osha phonetically sounds like the spanish word for Noche, which is night and mai sounds like day. They will be switching sides Osha turning to the dark side.
2) We are seeing the beginnings of Darth Plagueis, but is not Quimir, nor is he Plagueis’ master, it will be Osha, she will know how to teach plagueis about creating life and force dyads
Always love your analysis, Ryan. I recall mother Anastasia telling Osha that she is very powerful. I do not agree that she is weak in the force. Her force strength may manifest in a way viewers have not seen, and/or her connection to the force is blocked.
Btw....another connection of Knights of Ren is the helmet design.
1. Colton needs new headphones. He's always hitting it at the start of the video to make it work.
2. Hell yeah, he used the point about fraternal twins I QT Ryan a few weeks ago with!
My guess is that Colton is doing that so he doesn't hear that he's-
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Colton, look over there!
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Eternally trapped in the TV.
Somehow pewpewpew returned! The Stranger is an apprentice and his Master (the other Mother) will take him out for his betrayal and replace him with her new pupil: a young Darth Plagueis
BUT the Stranger will survive and go on to become the first Ren
"Palpatine wanted to transfer his essence into Rey..."
Sir... that is her grandfather!
I have a theory: Sol is the old Sith master of Qimir and trained him in the dark ways as a kid. He abandoned him and discarded him 16 years ago while hiding within de Jedi order (never showing his true face to his student). He then took up Osha as a padawan and Qimir as an act of revenge tries to take Mae as an acolyte.
23:50 wait Torbin and Kelnacca both get "mind controlled" from flashbacks.... Maybe it's the Mother Aniseya "breaking" their minds and they couldn't get her out of their minds. So they secluded themselves from everyone.
What if Plaegus helped the witches create the twins
22:48 before I hear anyone else’s theory, my theory is that the Jedi broke into the castle and discovered how Osha and Mae were created. The Jedi were religiously opposed to it (this means might hint at true Sith-like evil). The Jedi destroyed the means with which the twins were created, the coven discovers the Jedi and confronts the Jedi. The coven uses their powers to make the Kelnacca and Torbin fight (like we see in the trailer) and they also use some of their collective powers against the Jedi. Meanwhile the damage done by destroying the means of creating the twins causes a fire that is causing that major damage to the castle. The Jedi get scared of the coven and use some Dark Side Force powers, like Force Lightning or Force Choke, to wipe out the whole coven.
Love Colton checking his headphones
That Straw Hat Crew shirt is dope!!
Thanks to Ryan, Colton, Dodson and Lee! 💭
I think the master's line about "collecting people" is more significant than people realize.
Coven?
I thinks the theory is a little to wild for Disney who plays it safe but it’s a cool theory nonetheless. Wouldn’t mind it
Something I feel like SC missed when talking about Qimir and Sol. He says, "You don't remember me?" and they assumed it was due to the store owner part. I think it is more referencing something that happened at the Witch Coven.
Only thing about the theory of OSHA projecting Mae, is that when Luke did it he wasn’t moving the physical matter around him that’s why his feet didn’t move the sand to see the red under. Where both twins are touching shid
Stating my theory now before watching, so I can still call it mine. Based on Qimir’s comments, he and his master were at the Jedi vs. coven showdown. Mae’s life was at stake. Qimir’s master was disarmed and killed. It could be the same person, but that death and/or another during possession of the wookie caused the whole coven to die.
I feel like a force diad isn't something that is created, but chosen by the force itself.
The only reason why I still don't feel the Force Dyad theory is because only Osha "feels" this connection and Mae doesn't, so it appears to be an one-way street. But on the other hand, would this indeed be a Fight Club Theory then the connection that Osha has with Mae could indeed be seen the link through which Osha keeps Mae alive.
We will see but I do enjoy the fact that there is finally a show that gives us a good mystery and food for thought.
What if Osha and Mae were one person before the Jedi split them into different beings/identities somehow?
I also read a comment somewhere (I forgot where), that Qimir having Cortosis acctualy makes him have a connection with Teneborus and Plageius (with the latter, beeing whom I am most convinced Qimir is). Because Both Darths were mining Cortosis on in some comic, which is also where Plageius killed Teneborus.
3:53 I was putting dish away, thank you gave me a heart attack
You missed a perfect opportunity to make a couple of Austin Powers references at the sponsor section. I fell over again, and I think I broke my leg.
First episode, lady with horns on her head said 'I carried them.' Boom. Not projected.
The Jedi or Osha started the fire and Sol mind wiped Osha but her diade Mae still retains her memories. Qimir said to Sol at the alchemy shop place "Please don't do the memory wipe thing or whatever it is you guys do." That is why they are all stricken with guilt.