War Of The Worlds Explained: Tripod War Machines
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- čas přidán 26. 01. 2024
- War Of The Worlds Explained: Tripod War Machines is a video by pupbenny explaining why the War Machines from George Pal's The War Of The Worlds 1953 movie on first glance appear to be flying and aren't the traditional tripods as a faithful adaptation of H. G. Wells' The War Of The Worlds story would normally be.
H.G. Wells The War Of The Worlds is a story by British author Herbert George Wells in which alien visitors from Mars arrive in space capsules first in Horsell Common near Woking in Surrey. This is at first thought to be a meteorite by the English men that discover this cylinder with the astronomer Ogilvy exclaiming that the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one. However, as the Narrator explains, Martian creatures soon make themselves present before using a Heat Ray to disintegrate some of the English people. They soon begin using massive Tripod Fighting Machines and using weapons such as the heat-ray as well as the black smoke begin to lay waste to the British army, leaving people such as the Artilleryman and the protagonist separated from everyone including his wife, and with the defeat of the ironclad torpedo ram HMS Thunder Child the Royal Navy as well succeeding in defeating the biggest Empire in human history, The British Empire at the height of it's power in the Victorian age in which H G Wells wrote the novel. The Martians very quickly establish a dominion over man as they spread their Red Weed across the Earth reaching the capital city of Britain London the Fighting-Machines cause great devastation. Other methods of transport the martian invaders use include the Handling-Machines as well as the Flying-Machines.
On paper there have been many illustrated editions of the story, the first of which were done by Warwick Goble in the original serial version. Relatively soon after, Alvim Correa drew his illustrations. Henrique Alvim Corrêa was a Brazilian artist who traveled to London in 1902 to present H. G. Wells with drawings that he'd done for the story of The War Of The Worlds and there have since been many been many illustration versions by artists such has Edward Gorey and Lou Cameron. There have also been audio adaptations of HG Wells War Of The Worlds, including the infamous 1938 Orson Welles War of the Worlds radio broadcast and the iconic 1978 album Jeff Wayne's Musical Version Of The War Of The Worlds. There were likewise many attempts to bring the story to the big screen as well, including by icons such as Alfred Hitchcock and Ray Harryhausen, but it wasn't until The War Of The Worlds 1953 film by George Pal that this was finally accomplished. Later on, there's been Steven Spielberg's 2005 War Of The Worlds starring Tom Cruise and The Great Martian War 1913-1917 documentary style drama set in World War 1. Recently, the BBC made a TV miniseries the BBC British TV series war of the worlds and FOX, Epic and StudioCanal did a TV series starting in 2019 called War Of The Worlds that claims to be adapted from the source material. There has also been several war of the worlds movies recently as well, including 2021 War Of The Worlds, also known as Alien Conquest, which had a sequel called War Of The Worlds Annihilation and this year in 2023 War Of The Worlds The Attack. There have also been many indie games and art with a survival horror war of the worlds 2005 game which will be a multiplayer survival game based on the Tom Cruise War Of The Worlds movie as well as a faithful adaptation of HGWells War Of The World game set in the Victorian era by GelatoDev and TeamGreen with Team Green also making their survival game a multiplayer war of the worlds game as well and there's another announced in 2023 called The War of the Worlds: Siberia. There's also The War Of The Worlds 1913 game which is a worthwhile, fun and nicely stylised adaption of H G Wells The War Of The Worlds.
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I said in the previous one that I would do this video and here we are. :) It's fascinating trying to find out why the War Machines weren't actual proper tripods and what could've been in an alternate universe.
what was the game you were playing in the background?
@@DeliriousD-class The one with the planes? War Thunder.
@@pupbenny it was the one where you were playing as the tripods but don't worry I checked your channel and found the video 👍
The decision to omit physical legs was also a brilliant marketing move. America was in the grips of the post-war UFO scare and having the war machines appear to fly using some alien technology made them very relevant to the anxiety that was spreading across the land. Add in the fact that the menace was from the "red" planet, which conveniently tied in with the "red" cold war threat, and it undoubtedly upped the scare factor significantly for viewers of the original release. A walking machine just wouldn't have been accepted in the early 1950s as advanced technology. It would take almost a quarter of a century and the Imperial Walkers of the Star War franchise to convince us otherwise.
I love the invisible legs version of the 1953 movie 🎥 the machines were not flying they were walking on invisible magnetic legs, the concept of that was absolutely brilliant. 👍
One thing I do wonder, is if the effect Pal said they tested with the static electricity is what we actually see in the final film for those first two shots. To me, the actual 'energy legs' effect always looked like it was done in post-production. I could be wrong of course, but perhaps it really was just composited in later on simply to illustrate what Forrester was talking about. Or maybe that really was the test footage of the one million volts, as is assumed. It's interesting to think about.
I’m 50 now and I remember the wonderment I felt watching this as a kid.
I really like these War Machines the best. The three rays for the legs was a great effect.
I did not know they were made from copper! As a model builder, a 24 inch wide copper model would be mind blowing.
Yeah it's pretty crazy to think about. Truly a marvelous piece of construction!
The elegance and power made these far more terrifying in the long run. The Manta Ray-Swan design as well as impenetrable shielding, something not even in the books, made these extremely dangerous. Coming out of WWII, facing enemies immune modern weapons added to the helpless nature. The military power of the 50s against the Martians as described in the early novels would not have been much of a challenge for humanity to overcome.
Especially since a black-powder field gun was enough to “Decapitate” one of the tripods according to the original story.
If the original tripods went up against say, a truck with an M45 quadmount in the back, it’d probably end up looking like swiss cheese inside of a minute.
The energy legs were state of the art effects for 1953 film, and had the 2nd effect of completely elevating the war machines to a technology way beyond what was available at the time, AND gave the war machines a sleeker, glidery smoother movement which translated well because you had this juxtaposition of chaotic violence and destruction emanating from this calm smooth moving sleek vehicle, such a great movie, no other version is better
Absolutely loving your content, i appreciate the lengths you go to, to dig up all the tiny pieces of information.
I'm glad you like it! It's really fascinating trying to find out this information. :)
Seconded with enthusiasm! This 1953 version of War of the Worlds had a huge impact on me when I was a kid back in the 70s, so this channel really "speaks to me"🙂
First time I saw this movie I only got to see the last few minutes of it: I turned on our black and white TV, and it just happened to be on. I got to see the bit where the Martian ship crashed into a building and the Martian's weird hand and arm crept out from the hatch underneath the ship. And that was it! I didn't even know the name of the film. So when it came round on TV again about 3 years later, I was beside myself with excitement to see the entire thing, because I kept wondering in all that time, "What the hell was that movie?!". AND IT DID NOT DISAPPOINT! I devoured every second of it. I still think it's a fantastic piece of sci-fi -- a masterpiece, imo -- and way ahead of its time.
As many movies and TV shows have had "upgrades" of VFX, it would be interesting to revise the War Machines to include CGI effects to make the tripods' legs visible throughout the scenes where we see them.
The 1953 version is still my favorite Alien Invasion Movie. It would have been neat to try ans see them attempt to do the Tripod Legs, but it was the 50s. They couldn't just CGI their way out of problems like todays movies. It took actual skill and talent. That and Money too, which is always the biggest Hurdle for a Sci Fi Project to overcome.
Yeah, it would've been really fascinating to see what it would've looked like.
"The American Army of the 1950s" *proceeds to show WT footage of a 30s P-26 Peashooter getting obliterated*
The F-100 is in WT
One of my favorite lines from the '53 was Dr. Forrester's assessment of the "skeleton beam." "It neutralizes mesons somehow. Cut across their lines of magnetic force and matter simply ceases to exist." The elementary particles they're talking about are "gluons," not "mesons." But gluons weren't even to be discovered and named until 1962. Rather prescient, that!
i wouldn't have ever imagined that this topic would be so interesting. amazing work!!
One of my favorite Martian War Machines. I have a 1/48th model. Keep us posted.
very nice history of the war machines 👍
Its sad that those martian machine models no longer exist it would be awesome to see them in person
Albert Nozaki is an underrepresented genius...
The ufo-ish design of This war machines are my favorite ones, I would prefer to think that they are ALSO the flying Machine since I don't like the idea that they couldn't fly if the martians requiered it
Yeah that would certainly make them far more intimidating.
Awesome and interesting. Keep it going. 🙂🙂🙂
Thank you! :)
I like the fact that the electric legs were actually as dangerous as the beams the martians used in the film. It just adds to the destructive nature of the war machines.
love your content
What a great video.
Love this topic and the warships look better without the mechanical legs.
greatest alien space ships ever , amazing design , awesome power, and terrifying weapons ! ! ! , better than h.g. wells ever imagined
They were not spaceships, they were war machines designed especially for war, to annihilate the human race. 🤢😱🌍 And they almost did. 😮
George Pal: We really Magnetoed it up this time, Morty...
If when you did the 50's war machines, you kept the main body steady like it was in the film and only animated the leg movements as deliberate mechanical walking cycles, I think it could work. Yes, the machine would probably move more unsteadily in real life, but I have to think that if George intended to make these look menacing, then he would have wanted a smoother movement anyway despite tripod not being s smooth while wlking. Personally, I still love the 50's design with the three beam stilts as they just look menacing as hell.
War of the World's is the single best piece of Science fiction literature in my opinion. Regardless of my profile picture.. Hal 9k is the best Sci fi villian...fight me if you don't agree.. but, I'm a fan here...good work. H.G.Wells is the 19th century goat.
I think so too. I think it could basically be considered the blueprint of modern science fiction. (Arguably.)
I´d really like a Video about the Flying Machines.
Loved the movie and loved the 88 series! Would love to see more videos from you! Keep up the good work, my friend! 💪 😊
I love the 1953 movie 🎥 I absolutely hate the TV show, I like to think it took place in an alternate universe, in the 1953 movie the Martians were destroyed by germs and that's it. 🌍👍
Ayy that’s my channel name I’m for this video-
Yes please make a video on the flying machine
I always embraced the concept of Pal's machines having legs: except they were electromagnetic legs, not metal ones. I think it's a great idea.
Love it!
Thank you, I love your name!
@@pupbennyI love the channel keep it up please!
Hey pupbenny l would Love to see you do an video on The 1988 tv Show and also keep up The Great work ❤
Giving them three legs made of energy was genius, especially as they went to the effort of animating them. It would have been so much easier for the movie makers to just have them as flying machines.
Hey, pup, please make a great martian war video
I will do, I started rewatching it a couple of weeks ago. Will have a couple of videos about it I suspect.
@@pupbenny thanks. You're cool
@@pupbenny tgmw is one of my favourite adaptations
@@lemons4869explain tgmw I am kind of slow 🤔
@albertrandall2271 the great martian war. A mockument about martians invading earth in 1913-1917
from what i remember from the 1980s tv series, there was a episode with a much older version of the machines with actual visible legs
Dust to dust. A good episode.
You want machines to cover I am writing a book during my free time at school, I basically just went what if the narrator never got trapped in a cellar and got to see the actual war not just a few battles, there will be 6 machines
That sounds like a fantastic concept!
Don’t you mean nine? The movie made use of “threes” all through it. Three cylinders per group, three war machines per cylinder, three weapons per war machine. The eyes were in three sections and represented the RGB color process used in motion pictures and later in television. The fingers and toes were in threes, too. Remember that the tactics, described by General Mann on the chalkboard, were in threes (pie slices).
@@BuShips different types, the fighting machine(tripod), flying machine, handling machine, and some of my own creations will be in it
nice
In my opinion the Jeff Wayne version of the machines are the best looking using black matter engine's for propulsion and weapons.
A lot of people agree, they are very iconic.
For whatever reasons, the decision to eliminate the legs updated the machines for the movie, and made it all the better. That and the "protective bubble" is an answer to atomic weapons.
Good video thanks for the upload.. will check out your other stuff, are you going to talk about the 1980’s tv series ‘Tripods’ I found their design quite interesting
Thank you! I feel I probably will do videos about the Tripods series eventually but as of right now I haven't seen it myself so would want to watch it first so might be some time before I get around to it.
IIRC, War of the Worlds is in the public domain. I'd be interested in watching a video on how to effectively use the property in original work. Like if there are any guidelines or limitations when adapting or using material from the original H.G. Wells novel, or making one's interpretation of the source material different from the 50s film or the 2005 film.
That could be an interesting video! I might do that.
@@pupbenny Thank you! It'd be exciting to see what new authors, film makers, etc, can bring to the table with the tripods and martians.
Yay!! Go for it!!! A Review of the Flying Machines and other Martian Weaponry Gadgets!!! Lest Deep Down to the Martians Cultural Technology and Beyond!!! 👽🛸
And the TV Series Review too!!! 📺👨💻🦟
It should be interesting to go in depth on it all. :)
Would love a flying machine video
2:55 what game is that, but awesome video 👍 I've never thought about it that way
One technique the film could have used to walk the machines, is to have a raised model set with 3 stotted hidden tracks. The body could be suspended on wires with the legs moved by rods (similar to how the machines in The Tripods were animated.
A "legged" war machine did finally appear in the 90s War of the Worlds tv series, which is a direct, canon sequel to the Pal film. You can see it here: czcams.com/video/eoqBAgxFDAI/video.html
In the beginning when the machine's first come up you can see something kind of sparking out of the bottom of the machine that was actually a lot of electricity that they tried to use to have it sparked down to the ground to look like invisible legs. Unfortunately it had the habit of setting everything on fire that it touched so you only see it for that few seconds with the machines first come up out of the ground after that basically they just are hovering with wires.
if you would like a simple base for any tripod walking animations, the strider from half life 2 is a very good reference
The Cell version of a Martian War Machine!
Of all the renditions of the tripod fighting machines, I always preferred the rendition done by the old Classics Illustrated Magazine. Slick sliver with two primary tentacles, armored, with a glass front on the turret, a protruding heat ray beneath and flexible “knees”. Check it out sometime. Classics Illustrated Comics.
That's my favorite, too, the artwork in that edition was especially good. Very dramatic depiction of the explosion of the "Thunderchild" too!
It's ridiculous to expect the 1953 film to be that faithful to a novel written in Victorian times-HG Wells could hardly have imagined the technological innovations of the next 50 years and the whole tripod idea was by 1953 quite naive. Not to mention how clumsy the ride would be for the Martians, how easy to knock them down for the Army. The 1953 film had electro-magnetic tripods which makes a lot more sense and you can see them in a couple early Martian scenes--but the technique involved massive electrical charges on set and was so dangerous they scrapped this and just made it clear the magnetic legs were invisible to the human eye. Much more in keeping with what a race capable of all that other stuff would do!
Will you be covering the comics as well? Or even the great martian war or goliath ? Because alot of those designs are pretty good as well as the storys and the 'what if' presented to us via the comics.
Out of all the war of the worlds films I prefer the 50's one anyway the way they rise and land is ominous and they had the heat ray and the other that sounds incredible. Think they reused the machines in Robinson crusoe on Mars.
Indeed they did! Slightly modified but very recognisable as the same machine. Even used some of the same sounds if I recall correctly.
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons: You'd better watch out
Cuz I'm a War Machine
(Peter Kriss drum fill, Ace Frehley Solo)
Can you please break down what specifically/ fundamentally makes a War of the Worlds adaptation a "WotW story"? There are plenty of alien invasion stories and even some that rip off WotW without more directly saying that they are.
i always wanted to know what the full interior in the 1953 ships would look like
could you make a video that explains what it would look like in good detail?
Interesting, I wonder why the Martian ships would have three legs when the Martians themselves had two legs.
That's a good question. A lot of versions try to explain it by redesigning the aliens as being tripods themselves, but of course in this one and the original story they weren't. I'll look into it further to see if a definitive reason was ever given.
@pupbenny speaking of aliens with three legs, and tripods. do you remember the old BBC series TRIPODS, coz the aliens in that indeed had three legs
or no legs
Don't forget about the book where mankind goes to Mars using Martian technology adapted by mankind and Conquers them !
This first example of repulsorlift in my opinion
I want to make a story where a alien race is living there day to day lives and you get to know a few of them in the story and they are very similar to us in their habits and behaviors but look different and early in the story meteors start falling from the sky and the war of the worlds story plays out how we know it, and at the end of the movie when they machines start falling, one of them opens up and and the hand of a dying human reaches out.
I think the light at the bottom is probably making it hover i mean like. The lights makes it fly in another way
Like they say in showbiz, "The show has legs."
Bro mad disrespected the 2019 dawg
Were the martian war machines with physical legs in the intro based off an illustration by chance?
Very good question! I based it on what I thought the 'early model' ship from the 1988 TV series (pictured at 11:04) looked like. In retrospect I think I made the bottom part of the legs too long though, as I thought they were hidden behind rock but actually were really just short.
Flying machines video, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
Can you make the review on war of the worlds Goliath
wondering when your going to talk about the tripods both humans and martians from War of the Worlds: Goliath
Probably relatively soon I think. I haven't seen it yet, but I have it ready to watch, so it shouldn't be too long but I'm not entirely sure yet.
@@pupbenny awesome thanks. When you watch it, keep an open mind and place in an 'What if' type.
I prefer the legs as was used in the 2005 version, even if I saw the 1953 version first when I was 4 years old in 1991. I get the fact that the tech didn't exist to convincingly portray the 'mech effect, but dude, imagine if that army advisor was teleported into the future and saw Spielberg's version, he'd retract the statement about how much of an insignificant threat a mech would be to
"the american military." heh-heh.
He can you do the next video for war of the worlds classics illustrated comic book please
I read That.
It likely won't be the next one but it should be quite soon. :)
@@pupbennyI will be waiting for it and love your video
Belive it or not, the 1953 wotw has better ratings than the 2005 version
Gee.. that would have been cool though.
They are flying I wish they was in the 2005 movie it would have been better
Humanity would've been even more screwed in the 2005 movie if they were in it haha.
Oh
It would have looked like a green eyed chicken , with legs.
The original film do have three legs they light underneath them if watch the film proper
One of the best designs ever, nothing has ever come close to this, just a shame the acting is extremely dated now!!!
But for one brief second one actually does see their “legs”
2:45 Yo what’s the gameplay again?
I am gonna respectfully disagree with them being the most powerful. The 2005 fighting machines seem to have them beat in firepower, range, speed and intimidation. They are cool that's for sure, but the most powerful? Idk
sorry in film the guy who plays the scientist looks threw binoculars and say how that had rays like invisibe legs you did not seee now i model kit if turn the ship over you see thre spots whare thes ray come out and make the rays you do clear platic rod over the spots but must paint with emal green fist to have with sheen that why move slow in fist place havent do new one yet a might do thats my think on thing
Do you think they have the ability to travel the multiverse
I was thinking it would be an interesting concept if there was a piece of media called the Multiverse Of Mars or something where each tripod version came together and fought or something.
If your gona talk about flying machines don't forget the handeling machines remember the marcians had 3 types of machines.
Absolutely! I've even already made a couple of thumbnails for the handling machine video that I'm considering using. They're such an interesting topic, will definitely not forget to do them. :)
Especialy in the new 1934 rendition someones makeing those handeling machines look terrafing@@pupbenny
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7:58 jumpscare
That was a slig jumpscare
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All tripod war fo the world alien martian?
they have legs but there transparent
What the hell 0:08
Sup nerds.
Not my favorite version of War of the Worlds tripod, even when I have nothing against it
I never liked this film. I debiates from the book too much for me.
Who cares? The 1950s war machines were far scarier than some stupid looking tripods.
You are absolutely right, the 1953 war of the world war machines is absolutely the best, no other movie can't even come close to it, I don't understand how some people think that other versions of the war of the worlds is better than the 1953 version, just look at those Martian war machines the way they look the way they move the way their weapons sound, we all have our own opinions of course, in my opinion is the 1953 war of the worlds movie is better than any other war of the world's movie. The sound of the heat ray weapon and the sound of the skeleton beam weapon is absolutely beautiful and terrifying. 😱