Always liked the Doxa design. But can’t justify spending a lot of money on a real one, and apparently, a real one has weak lume, which is something you wouldn’t expect on such an expensive watch. Enter the Seestern, what a good looking homage! Thanks for the helpful review, it’s on my wish list now!
I had a tactical frog come in last week. I liked it but decided to sell it locally and buy a seestern. The AliExpress gentleman I was chatting with said I got one out of the last 4 he had in stock. Looking forward to receiving it. I chose the orange version.
Tell me about it! Been wanting a Doxa for years but im not willing to drop $2,400 while saving for my grail. After watching 3 reviews on the Seestern and hearing people rave about them, i pulled the trigger tonight in the Orange Sub 300.
The V2 has a lume pip on the bezel. A very nice homage. There's not much difference in visibility between the black and orange at depth, the black might get lost more than the orange but it's the hour markers you need to see! The V2 also comes with the silver sunburst "Searambler" option. Very nice finishing and attention to detail and fabulous bezel action.
Great tongue-in-cheek review, as always, for a great looking watch. Doxa; the watch of choice for Dirk Pitt in the Clive Cussler novels. The Seestern is more in keeping with the original, than the Tactical Frog, which has to be a miss.
I was going to get it in Orange. Can you tell me a little bit about how the mop looks. I only want one watch and I thought maybe the orange was more eye-popping but please let me know all about the m o p. Thanks ray
@@wed265 the MOP is beautiful. As you turn the watch, it ranges from black, to Grey, to iridescent Grey with hints of blue. Really stunning. And tge bracelet is top notch. I ordered it from the Seestern store, as it was slightly less expensive there. I've just ordered their 38mm 62 Mas, because I liked the Doxa homage so much.
Excellent review as usual, both in terms of information and entertainment. I was mostly considering going for their 62mas at the 11.11 sale but damn it, this looks so tempting as well. I agree on the hour hand, but I guess we have to live with the original design. Usually I think divers with cushion cases or the likes of Cpt. Willard etc looks best on rubber straps, like you showed with those great looking ones you have. But this bor bracelet suits this watch so damn well.
The watch is fantastic for that price. Unfortunately yellow and light blue color ways aren't available. I do love the mother of pearl black-ish dial available for $20.00 more. Your straps compliment this watch greatly. Looks like I'll be doing some shopping! Excellent video!!
Great review Dan. I really like this watch. Seestern is making some very nice pieces and this one in particular is very cool. Love the pastel blue color. Overall a thumbs-up 👍👏👊
Seestern also have a problem with a misaligned date wheel on the first iteration of their 62mas homage (which is otherwise fantastic), it seems a little more care was needed when designing the dials (unless they were originally going to use a different mechanism perhaps?). Good to know they are aware of the issue, acknowledge it, and are already changing it. A company which listens to feedback and performs actions based upon it are going to succeed. Great review of a very nice watch.
@@matt4398 I prefer them on almost any watch. Just pick up any watch, set the time, and go - no messing about with date. I do think if a date is on a watch that the 6 o’clock is best for dial balance. Agree that misaligned wheels trigger my OCD!
Well done kiddo great vidio... I was going for the tactical frog version but I've changed my mind after watching your vlog... Great watch excellent value for money Iam going for the light blue dial.... Awsome 👍
Great video Dan. Managed to drop in for a few minutes on the live stream. The yellow is gorgeous though I think I might go for the blue, as I've a yellow dial Steeldive tuna. The straps are great, definitely prefer the two black ones. Just a thought I have a yellow rubber strap on my Steeldive and it's a real head turner. Maybe a yellow fkm strap would be stunning on this watch, as well as ones to match the other colours!
Impressive and very succeeded homage watch! I love the fact that there is something else than Submariner homages that gets some attention these days. All the more when it's well made without too many obvious cost savings measurements like this one.
Great watch I will start saving right now. Hopefully by then they will release applied indices display and correct the non centered date window. Really needed! Great colour choice Dan.
Another killer review my friend and yes great strap show I also think it's better than the Frog now I just have to settle on a color before the sale providing there is actually a discount ps,maybe a Vostok on a nato for the dog🤪👍
@@RetroworksMusic the original doxa doesn't even have applied indices.... I would argue the printed is better anyway as find indices from China are never aligned right and always have the chance of falling off... Printed looks great
@@mattimattwa9064 if its supposed to be an hommage and not a cheap copy i would love applied indices in this particular watch, but youve got a point with china misaligned dials and QC..
You're the best my friend. Excellent review I think I'm going to buy this in the alleyexpress 11/11 sale in orange. Do you think by November 11th they would have worked out some of the Kinks and changed it like the date wheel to the left also those little lines coming off of 12 ,3, 6 and 9 a little bit longer. I think they should have put seestern automatic on the top left and put 200m professional on the bottom right. The indices should be a little darker on the outside like the original doxa. What are your thoughts on what I asked. Ray usa
Hi Ray thanks for your kind words. I haven't heard on how soon any updates would be made, but even the current iteration is fantastic and apparently selling really well. I can see why ! It's going on my recommendation list when i do the 11.11 sale video. ☺
great review, very witty but I personally don't like the watch. Not sure many people actually use watches for timing dives these days. All serious divers use computers and have done for the 30 years I have been diving. I have more than a dozen dive watches but for desk diving only. Any chance of looking into Panerai homages? Also have you considered sourcing clasps on your ebay store? I could do with (as could many others) with decent replacements for the pressed claps on stuff like my Seiko's. keep up the good work!
Hi, mine was sent directly from seestern, not via aliexpress. Normally, the shipping I get through aliexpress is acceptable. I never upgrade it at all.
Just pre-ordered version 2, black dial and now with lume pip. I have the version 1 MOP dial, and the lume pip should fix one of the main flaws on this watch.
I always loved the genuine Doxa but didnt want to spend that money on one. Was so close to buying a Maranez Samui but hesitated due to the price, then almost got the Frog but didnt like the fake BoR bracelet with the solid links. I waited and got the Seestern with MOP dial, very happy with it (paid £117 delivered all in). If they made a bright turquoise dial instead of the pale light blue one I could be tempted to buy another.
I'm so bothered by asymmetry that my collection is predominately no-date. For some reason, Doxa's offset branding gets a pass and I absolutely love it.
What happens with the lumed date wheel when the date changes? Are you left with a dark square after midnight? I have seen a few reviews of this watch but haven’t noticed any comments on this. As usual, interesting, entertaining and informative Dan.
I’ve got the genuine and it is all about the design and history As a watch there are a lot of deficiencies. Think it’s 197 grams very heavy on the wrist . Lune isn’t great and mine is running two mins slow per day so will be returned to AD for a swap on Saturday. I’m thinking with much lighter case and great lume this may be a better daily option than the real thing ..
Thats very interesting to hear. Its info like that which really helps show that even a dream watch can still have its flaws (down to personal taste of course)
Good review, much better than the weird táctical frog tachy variant.. But another nh35…again ?, a japanese movmt on a swiss watch hommage does not make any sense to me.. Just increase a bit the price throw in a pt5000 movmt Option and im in..
@@watchmewithwatches well i Think if you are going to pay hommage to a swiss brand do it properly and throw in a movement that pays hommage to a swiss movement.. as the pt5000, which its an affordable etasa chinese variant.. Also would be great if this brand learned from the San martin success allowing customize Jobs, for instance i would love the candid blue on Orange hands for example.. But otherwise i will be forced to go for the Mop variant instead...
See + Stern = Seestern, I think this might be owned by the Stern family, being a sister brand to Patek Philippe. It makes sense, they launched this so they do not have to introduce a diver in Patek´s line. You did not open the case, if you do, and my theory is true, you would discover a Patek´s movement inside.
I would imagine it is difficult. Need to.get the movement to line up with the crown tube for smooth crown operation. Would need a custom movement holder to grip the movement in the correct location. Would.also been the dial some to be the correct size for it to fit as well!
That handset has always been a big turn off for me. Looks like someone assembled it out of mismatched parts. I'm also not a big fan of the branding placement. And a date wheel that doesn't line up is inexcusable.
Can you please turn up the audio on your voice. You have such a soft voice it's hard to hear all your words unless I crank my volume level, then unfortunately your music audio comes blasting in. Thanks
the problem with seestern is once they sell their 500 or whatever V1 in a month, they come out with a V2 a month later. And when they sell out on that? What a V3? I don't like having the "old" one 30 days later. A year, like Apple? Maybe. A month? Pass.
I'm pretty sure they are. Even at this price point, the developers are very much focused on refining these details which is very reassuring. Let's see in time if that happens.
Is a Doxa an investment? No. Will you dive 200m ? No. Does the homage tell the time? Yup. No issue. When you have cancer you won’t be looking at your watch. Guaranteed.
Always liked the Doxa design.
But can’t justify spending a lot of money on a real one, and apparently, a real one has weak lume, which is something you wouldn’t expect on such an expensive watch.
Enter the Seestern, what a good looking homage!
Thanks for the helpful review, it’s on my wish list now!
All "milled" clasps are stamped out, just like cases, movement plates etc. I like that it uses pins instead of the stupid screws on the bracelet.
I had a tactical frog come in last week. I liked it but decided to sell it locally and buy a seestern. The AliExpress gentleman I was chatting with said I got one out of the last 4 he had in stock. Looking forward to receiving it. I chose the orange version.
White indices and black dial is very visible underwater. The highest visibility color is bright yellow/green neon, higher vis than orange in the dark.
Brilliant review! Ive had my eye on these for a while, but don’t usually do homages… these sound too good to miss though as I love Doxas!
Tell me about it! Been wanting a Doxa for years but im not willing to drop $2,400 while saving for my grail. After watching 3 reviews on the Seestern and hearing people rave about them, i pulled the trigger tonight in the Orange Sub 300.
The V2 has a lume pip on the bezel. A very nice homage. There's not much difference in visibility between the black and orange at depth, the black might get lost more than the orange but it's the hour markers you need to see! The V2 also comes with the silver sunburst "Searambler" option. Very nice finishing and attention to detail and fabulous bezel action.
I will think of cistern every time I see this watch now 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for sharing
The author Clive Cussler (Raise the Titanic, Sahara) also had a special edition Doxa 300T in that his main character Dirk Pitt wore one in the novels.
I reckon it's the watch worn by the true pioneers and adventurers out there. It's actually attainable!
@@watchmewithwatches ... yup the real deal is definitely on my list to get long term.
@@karlsenula9495 me too I reckon. Orange one too for originality. What about you?
@@watchmewithwatches oh DEFINITELY the orange one.
I have one of those. It doesn’t have a BOR bracelet.
just checked out your strap store, really great stuff...I'll be buying soon!
Thank you! I'm working hard to grow this business.
Great review of a watch that I'm itching to get my hands on !! The Blue dial version also looks stunning.
Coral blue is so fun! Very nice indeed.
Great tongue-in-cheek review, as always, for a great looking watch. Doxa; the watch of choice for Dirk Pitt in the Clive Cussler novels. The Seestern is more in keeping with the original, than the Tactical Frog, which has to be a miss.
I love those straps! Can you provide a link for both @watch me with watches? BTW, I like the blue, chunkier one the most!
Just received mine yesterday. With MOP dial. Super watch.
Oooh, tasty option. Very smart!
I was going to get it in Orange. Can you tell me a little bit about how the mop looks. I only want one watch and I thought maybe the orange was more eye-popping but please let me know all about the m o p. Thanks ray
@@wed265 the MOP is beautiful. As you turn the watch, it ranges from black, to Grey, to iridescent Grey with hints of blue. Really stunning. And tge bracelet is top notch. I ordered it from the Seestern store, as it was slightly less expensive there. I've just ordered their 38mm 62 Mas, because I liked the Doxa homage so much.
Terrific video on all aspects then the extra straps really enjoyed it 👍
Thank you Patrick, which strap was your favourite?
Chocolate starfish 😂 I knew you wouldn't be able to resist! 👍
Excellent review as usual, both in terms of information and entertainment. I was mostly considering going for their 62mas at the 11.11 sale but damn it, this looks so tempting as well. I agree on the hour hand, but I guess we have to live with the original design.
Usually I think divers with cushion cases or the likes of Cpt. Willard etc looks best on rubber straps, like you showed with those great looking ones you have. But this bor bracelet suits this watch so damn well.
That's really cool. On my radar now, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
It's nice to have something so different for a change thats still decent
@@watchmewithwatches absolutely. Excellent review, Thank you 👍🏻
The watch is fantastic for that price. Unfortunately yellow and light blue color ways aren't available. I do love the mother of pearl black-ish dial available for $20.00 more. Your straps compliment this watch greatly. Looks like I'll be doing some shopping! Excellent video!!
Thank you! The pearl dial looks so cool with the orange minute hand, nice contrast of colour!
What a great review, very entertaining. I want the Seestern 62Mas homage desperately. I’m trying to wait but I don’t know how long I can hold out…
Great review Dan. I really like this watch. Seestern is making some very nice pieces and this one in particular is very cool. Love the pastel blue color. Overall a thumbs-up 👍👏👊
I agree, I love it when a new brand pops up, as they make a converted effort to impress, because its so competitive out there.
Maranez also sells a Doxa homage. It’s a bit more, but still quite affordable. They’ve been out for at least a year if I recall correctly.
Terrific review! I am off to shop your straps now.
Oh, cute pooch!😊😁👍🏼
Thank you!
Seestern also have a problem with a misaligned date wheel on the first iteration of their 62mas homage (which is otherwise fantastic), it seems a little more care was needed when designing the dials (unless they were originally going to use a different mechanism perhaps?).
Good to know they are aware of the issue, acknowledge it, and are already changing it. A company which listens to feedback and performs actions based upon it are going to succeed.
Great review of a very nice watch.
I agree, its always reassuring when companies work on evolving their products. Thank you for watching!
I've been looking for no date watches lately, I have horrible luck with misaligned dates
@@matt4398 I prefer them on almost any watch. Just pick up any watch, set the time, and go - no messing about with date. I do think if a date is on a watch that the 6 o’clock is best for dial balance.
Agree that misaligned wheels trigger my OCD!
Well done kiddo great vidio... I was going for the tactical frog version but I've changed my mind after watching your vlog... Great watch excellent value for money Iam going for the light blue dial.... Awsome 👍
Great video Dan. Managed to drop in for a few minutes on the live stream. The yellow is gorgeous though I think I might go for the blue, as I've a yellow dial Steeldive tuna. The straps are great, definitely prefer the two black ones. Just a thought I have a yellow rubber strap on my Steeldive and it's a real head turner. Maybe a yellow fkm strap would be stunning on this watch, as well as ones to match the other colours!
Thanks Brian. I think you are right, might have to take a risk and add yellow to the range!
Impressive and very succeeded homage watch! I love the fact that there is something else than Submariner homages that gets some attention these days. All the more when it's well made without too many obvious cost savings measurements like this one.
Man i see you everwhere! You must be hard core watch lover...
Great watch I will start saving right now. Hopefully by then they will release applied indices display and correct the non centered date window. Really needed! Great colour choice Dan.
Thank you! For a first version, they nailed it about 90%, where the tactical frog was a bit of a flop in comparison having handled (and own) both.
The Seestern is based off DOXA’s SUB 300T, which also does not have applied indices.
The Seestern really did this homage right in so many ways!
I'm not planning to buy any more watches this year , but this is for sure on the list to pick up next year
What colour do you like the most?
@@watchmewithwatches I'd have to go with the classic orange but they all look very good with my least fav being the MOP dial
It's not really a watch for me, but I appreciate it's strengths, and it's better than the Tactical Toad
Another killer review my friend and yes great strap show I also think it's better than the Frog now I just have to settle on a color before the sale providing there is actually a discount ps,maybe a Vostok on a nato for the dog🤪👍
“Chocolate starfish “ 😂
That lumed date wheel 👌
They need to do one with the U.S. Divers Aqua Lung logo on the dial, that would be cool.
I just wanted to mention I really like the look of that Tropic - Waffle hybrid. 👍🏻
It's very smart, works with many watches!
Good review, I like it apart from the tiny hour hand, but as you say that's Rosa's fault! Looked great on that new blue strap 👍
Thanks Duncan. I think the tiny hour hand is a weird but practical design feature. Proper tool watch!
Love my 3 Seesterns. Great review 👏
The yellow ones are sold out
When this bugger comes with a lumed pip I will definitively think about getting it!
If My Calculations are Correct When this baby comes with a lumed pip a pt5000 movmt and appllied índices, your gonns See some serious shit..
@@RetroworksMusic the original doxa doesn't even have applied indices....
I would argue the printed is better anyway as find indices from China are never aligned right and always have the chance of falling off... Printed looks great
@@mattimattwa9064 if its supposed to be an hommage and not a cheap copy i would love applied indices in this particular watch, but youve got a point with china misaligned dials and QC..
The original Doxa clasp is stamped. The one of this Seestern is milled 👍
You're the best my friend. Excellent review I think I'm going to buy this in the alleyexpress 11/11 sale in orange. Do you think by November 11th they would have worked out some of the Kinks and changed it like the date wheel to the left also those little lines coming off of 12 ,3, 6 and 9 a little bit longer. I think they should have put seestern automatic on the top left and put 200m professional on the bottom right. The indices should be a little darker on the outside like the original doxa. What are your thoughts on what I asked. Ray usa
Hi Ray thanks for your kind words. I haven't heard on how soon any updates would be made, but even the current iteration is fantastic and apparently selling really well. I can see why ! It's going on my recommendation list when i do the 11.11 sale video. ☺
I wish these changes are made also
great review, very witty but I personally don't like the watch. Not sure many people actually use watches for timing dives these days. All serious divers use computers and have done for the 30 years I have been diving. I have more than a dozen dive watches but for desk diving only. Any chance of looking into Panerai homages?
Also have you considered sourcing clasps on your ebay store? I could do with (as could many others) with decent replacements for the pressed claps on stuff like my Seiko's. keep up the good work!
Just bought a orange Pioneer off your store
hello, did you pay fast shipping? I used free shipping and I still don't know anything about the watch, how long does it take to get to you? Cheers
Hi, mine was sent directly from seestern, not via aliexpress. Normally, the shipping I get through aliexpress is acceptable. I never upgrade it at all.
Think I'd much prefer the wording on the face to be central rather than to be off to one side. Still, nice looking watch.
Great watch, excellent price. Not much reason to buy a real Doxa now, when you can get this for $170 vs $1895.
Just pre-ordered version 2, black dial and now with lume pip. I have the version 1 MOP dial, and the lume pip should fix one of the main flaws on this watch.
Good review! Made me subscribe this time 😁
Welcome! Thanks for watching James
I always loved the genuine Doxa but didnt want to spend that money on one. Was so close to buying a Maranez Samui but hesitated due to the price, then almost got the Frog but didnt like the fake BoR bracelet with the solid links. I waited and got the Seestern with MOP dial, very happy with it (paid £117 delivered all in). If they made a bright turquoise dial instead of the pale light blue one I could be tempted to buy another.
So do you think the seesturn turquoise dial is different from the doxa?
Would have been nice to have a nice insert starfish logo
Lol @ my dog agrees, good video man keep it up.
I'm so bothered by asymmetry that my collection is predominately no-date.
For some reason, Doxa's offset branding gets a pass and I absolutely love it.
You'll be happy to know seestern will be releasing a no date version of this watch 🙂
@@mattimattwa9064 do you know when?
They should offer this watch with (lubricated) PT5000 movement
Interesting idea. Speaking of lubrication, I think I need help with a pt5000 i have which feels very stiff to manual wind!
So many good watches on Aliexpress atm we are spoilt!
Great 👍🏻 ideas for upgrading this fun watch ...
Thanks! Such easy and cheap upgrades that make a nice difference 👌
What happens with the lumed date wheel when the date changes? Are you left with a dark square after midnight? I have seen a few reviews of this watch but haven’t noticed any comments on this.
As usual, interesting, entertaining and informative Dan.
I’ve got the genuine and it is all about the design and history As a watch there are a lot of deficiencies. Think it’s 197 grams very heavy on the wrist . Lune isn’t great and mine is running two mins slow per day so will be returned to AD for a swap on Saturday. I’m thinking with much lighter case and great lume this may be a better daily option than the real thing ..
Thats very interesting to hear. Its info like that which really helps show that even a dream watch can still have its flaws (down to personal taste of course)
I bought the tactical frog version, disappointed to find small chips of paint on the inside of the glass.
I would almost Immediately have to dismantle the watch and use the puffer!
What has happened to your watch strap shop?
I would like to see one compared side by side to the real McCoy.
Me too! I think Jody at just one more watch did a comparison....
Good review, much better than the weird táctical frog tachy variant.. But another nh35…again ?, a japanese movmt on a swiss watch hommage does not make any sense to me.. Just increase a bit the price throw in a pt5000 movmt Option and im in..
Good suggestions, maybe one day. Or the miyota 9000 series? They are great.
@@watchmewithwatches well i Think if you are going to pay hommage to a swiss brand do it properly and throw in a movement that pays hommage to a swiss movement.. as the pt5000, which its an affordable etasa chinese variant.. Also would be great if this brand learned from the San martin success allowing customize Jobs, for instance i would love the candid blue on Orange hands for example.. But otherwise i will be forced to go for the Mop variant instead...
See + Stern = Seestern, I think this might be owned by the Stern family, being a sister brand to Patek Philippe. It makes sense, they launched this so they do not have to introduce a diver in Patek´s line. You did not open the case, if you do, and my theory is true, you would discover a Patek´s movement inside.
I knew I would have a patek one day!
Seems like seestern had an issue with date window alignment across all their models. 62mas had the same problem. Shame.
I know its a shame, but it shows how easy these things can be to get wrong!
This looks like version two, should be good.
I know this probably sacrilege, but how difficult is it to change automatic movement for a quartz?
I would imagine it is difficult. Need to.get the movement to line up with the crown tube for smooth crown operation. Would need a custom movement holder to grip the movement in the correct location. Would.also been the dial some to be the correct size for it to fit as well!
Hasn't this watch got spelling mistakes on the case back?
Seestern top
Seestern is dope
That handset has always been a big turn off for me. Looks like someone assembled it out of mismatched parts. I'm also not a big fan of the branding placement. And a date wheel that doesn't line up is inexcusable.
A few tweaks for version 2 should help rectify these things. The tiny hour hand is definately odd.
😂 “Top heavy” 😂
At 03:26 is she actually saying, "Well that's normal for paying homage to a Doxa"? Because it sure looks like it. 8^)
I blew my production budget just to get her 😉
Can you please turn up the audio on your voice. You have such a soft voice it's hard to hear all your words unless I crank my volume level, then unfortunately your music audio comes blasting in. Thanks
Lol, I have to crank my audio up after I've recorded it, maybe I need to go up even more! Thanks for your suggestions 😊
the problem with seestern is once they sell their 500 or whatever V1 in a month, they come out with a V2 a month later. And when they sell out on that? What a V3? I don't like having the "old" one 30 days later. A year, like Apple? Maybe. A month? Pass.
I have seen that is happening.
That date wheel fills me with dread. I hope they do fix it.
I'm pretty sure they are. Even at this price point, the developers are very much focused on refining these details which is very reassuring. Let's see in time if that happens.
Is a Doxa an investment? No. Will you dive 200m ? No. Does the homage tell the time? Yup. No issue. When you have cancer you won’t be looking at your watch. Guaranteed.
Wtf lol
Seestern logo should be a bolder font…. But still a lame logo. And that crown 😩
Chinese rubbish-leaks in a rain puddle.