Intel i5-12400F vs AMD Ryzen 5 5600X - Best 6 Core CPU?

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    5600X vs 12400F CPU Comparison Timestamps
    0:00 Intro
    0:05 CPU Spec Differences
    0:23 Price Differences
    0:37 DDR5 or DDR4 Memory?
    1:05 Test PC Specs
    1:30 Video Sponsor - Western Digital!
    2:24 Benchmarks
    2:34 Cinebench R23
    2:56 Linux Kernel Compilation
    3:10 Blender Open Data
    3:27 V-Ray / Corona Renderer
    3:47 Handbrake Video Export
    4:02 Adobe Premiere Video Editing
    4:16 DaVinci Resolve Video Editing
    4:24 Adobe Photoshop
    4:37 Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook)
    4:44 7-Zip Compression & Decompression
    4:59 AES Encryption & Decryption
    5:06 GeekBench
    5:22 All Application Differences
    5:50 Power Draw / Temperatures / Clock Speed
    6:51 Microsoft Flight Simulator
    7:16 Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
    7:34 Rainbow Six Siege
    7:57 Red Dead Redemption 2
    8:24 Control
    8:45 Cyberpunk 2077
    8:59 Watch Dogs Legion
    9:20 Far Cry 6
    9:36 F1 2021
    9:54 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    10:04 5600X vs 12400F at 1080p in 10 Games
    10:30 5600X vs 12400F at 1440p in 10 Games
    10:46 5600X vs 12400F at 4K in 10 Games
    11:01 Cost Per Frame - Best Value
    11:33 Conclusion - 12400F or 5600X?
    12:25 Zen 4 vs Intel 12th Gen
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Komentáře • 913

  • @vickyvishalful
    @vickyvishalful Před 2 lety +632

    Time flies. Intel is recommended based on value

    • @Hardcore_Remixer
      @Hardcore_Remixer Před 2 lety +31

      And consumption too and without overheating as it did in the 10th and 11th gen.

    • @madcrowmaxwell
      @madcrowmaxwell Před 2 lety +49

      To be fair, the 10400 was being recommended as a great budget option too, especially once the B560 boards came out and it became possible to use RAM at its full XMP speeds.

    • @Defy_Convention
      @Defy_Convention Před 2 lety +9

      6700k vs fx8350 nostalgia

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 Před 2 lety +22

      @@Hardcore_Remixer Not really 12400/F is more like the exception. The rest of the lineup going up get almost exponentially hotter and more power hungry.

    • @Hardcore_Remixer
      @Hardcore_Remixer Před 2 lety +1

      @@robertstan298 Good to know. Thanks for the info!

  • @PrototypeElucidator
    @PrototypeElucidator Před 2 lety +643

    Competition is good. Love seeing how a mid-low end i5 chip can compete with the 5600x and cheaper at that. Thanks AMD for pushing Intel to be better and good job Intel for catching back to AMD in a single generation.

    • @hanmaruf2919
      @hanmaruf2919 Před 2 lety +50

      dont forget gen 9 10 11 to catch up amd 5xxx and failed

    • @thecanmanification
      @thecanmanification Před 2 lety +58

      I would say it took intel 2 generations to make a good comeback, but I really hope that they keep pushing each other going forward, especially in the mobile space

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged Před 2 lety +48

      @@hanmaruf2919 AMD 5000 didn't happen until a while after gen 10. And even then the 10400F and then 11400F remained good value options when they both beat the 3600.

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 Před 2 lety +35

      @@hanmaruf2919 dont forget 9 10 11 gen was BEFORE the 5000 series
      what you on about?
      also in the low end Intel was still the only choice for a while, 5600x came with a price increase

    • @grumpy6591
      @grumpy6591 Před 2 lety +18

      @@Freestyle80 Release dates:
      AMD 5000 series November 5, 2020
      Intel 11th gen March 30, 2021

  • @taab84
    @taab84 Před 2 lety +71

    Glad to see Intel is still in competition, i don't want to see CPU prices skyrocketing again

  • @budoyrush7144
    @budoyrush7144 Před rokem +1

    That's very informative in just a single video. Great contents!! Thank you!!!

  • @jaspar797
    @jaspar797 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the comparison and especially the results in Microsoft Flight Simulator!

  • @Just_An_Ignacio
    @Just_An_Ignacio Před 2 lety +249

    I feel the natural competitor of the 5600X is the i5 12500 in terms of frequency and price (or 12600 if you really match the prices and want to know "the best six-core"), but it doesn't quit that the i5 12400f is definetly the new budget king and the i3 12100f the ultra budget king. Good to see more accesible procesors in the market.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 2 lety +32

      I think in the past I compared a XX400 against XX500 series and found it was basically pointless, so figured here it makes sense to just go for the lower cost option.

    • @Just_An_Ignacio
      @Just_An_Ignacio Před 2 lety +4

      @@JarrodsTech well, it makes sense since the diference between 12(4/5/6)00 should be minimal as you say, this was just me wanting to see a "competition" but i understand most people would be more interested in the cheapest i5.
      Anyway, thanks for the time to answer and the always great content, Jarrod.

    • @tyre1337
      @tyre1337 Před 2 lety +23

      @@Just_An_Ignacio 500 and 600 are the most pointless SKUs, you either get 400 for value or 600k for performance

    • @katakouzina
      @katakouzina Před 2 lety +1

      but you waste money on the uhd graphics

    • @davidholt8330
      @davidholt8330 Před 10 měsíci +2

      but the 5600x is nearly 2 years older than the 12400... Which is sad for intel...

  • @GamerBoy705_yt
    @GamerBoy705_yt Před 2 lety

    Starting to get a ton of sponsorships recently, great job man

  • @joaojgac
    @joaojgac Před 2 lety +23

    Long waited review Jarrod's !!! Nice content as always !! Cheers my friend

  • @l0ngbon392
    @l0ngbon392 Před 2 lety +12

    As if you’ve just made this video. Literally looking at Pc builds now and wanted to compare… boom Jarrods got it

  • @bigbubba0439
    @bigbubba0439 Před rokem +25

    You know, as of 9/29/22, the 5600x is just ONE DOLLAR more than the i5 12400f. Given that my PC will be doing mostly gaming, and that the difference between the 12400 and 5600 was either that they were right next to each other or the 5600 was way above the 12400 in performance, I think I've made my decision. Thanks for the thorough comparison!

    • @curtis1552
      @curtis1552 Před rokem +5

      AMD has cheaper mobos too

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 Před rokem +1

      dont forget with 1/4 power

    • @romanbennifir6020
      @romanbennifir6020 Před rokem

      Get the non f version for a little more. Its way faster than the ryzen. Ddr5 baby

    • @YoussefMohammed3
      @YoussefMohammed3 Před rokem

      You forgot DDr5 at least in the future will makes a big difference

    • @maki07199
      @maki07199 Před 28 dny

      I would go for i5 because i can upgrade to 13 gen but with 5600 i need now motherboard to go for 7000

  • @henkpotgieter5299
    @henkpotgieter5299 Před 2 lety

    So wonderful, looking so forward what lies in store for us

  • @junnio
    @junnio Před rokem

    Thank you for your full detail about 2 this cpu, it really help me a lot

  • @herrxerex8484
    @herrxerex8484 Před 2 lety +4

    Linux 5.18 will have full fledged alderlake support , would like to see a comparison then .

  • @ItsMotoMatt
    @ItsMotoMatt Před rokem +4

    The 12400F absolutely slays! If you're coming from LGA1150 or LGA1151, it's greased lightning by comparison. I'll be putting it in my rig this year.

  • @gokmen9928
    @gokmen9928 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful video, thank you.

  • @SrMway
    @SrMway Před 2 lety +1

    Can you please do a review of HP Omen 16 2021? The only downside I see for that laptop is that it's not reviewed by you.

  • @runninginthe90s75
    @runninginthe90s75 Před 2 lety +129

    Shame you didn't test Power Draw while gaming, this is where this i5-12400F looks 50% more efficient than r5 5600x. This Alder Lake CPU draw power only 40-50w while ryzen is 70w+.

    • @pnv1974
      @pnv1974 Před 2 lety +9

      Yes I totally agree with you dear
      P.S
      Be polite mate , u can explain in a good manner 😊

    • @Joker-no1fz
      @Joker-no1fz Před 2 lety +46

      @@pnv1974 what are you talking about not being polite? english not your first language i am guessing. shame is different then shame on you.

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl Před 2 lety +6

      that efficiency take it with a grain of salt since the 5600X is generally the faster chip. if you lower the clockspeeds of the 5600x to match the performance of the i5 you will have once again the same wattage..

    • @mattroyal363
      @mattroyal363 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Joker-no1fz he's indian their english is a bit weird

    • @pnv1974
      @pnv1974 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Joker-no1fz read your comment again
      If read I can guarantee you my English is better than you

  • @Bawbalicious
    @Bawbalicious Před 2 lety +35

    Excellent benchmark and comparison! However, especially in the budget category, I'd recommend always including a more E-sports heavy title in your benchmarks. There will be plenty of League/CS:GO/Valhalla/Fortnite players looking for systems in this range.
    Thanks for touching on the points like motherboard price and upgrade path as well, it didn't occur to me that the Intel upgrade path is better in this particular case.

  • @avsthvtic
    @avsthvtic Před 2 lety

    I know this isnt relevant to the video, but what would you say is the best alternative to the Legion 5 pro with a 3070? two month wait time is a while but if it is really best in class its worth it. But does anything match it in a similar price range?

  • @theTechNotice
    @theTechNotice Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video!

  • @KingTheKid
    @KingTheKid Před rokem +7

    It's so weird to see this now after seeing the 5600x sell for cheaper than the i5

    • @CptSlow89
      @CptSlow89 Před 10 měsíci

      Yup, and I went with 12400f...

    • @djbobby224
      @djbobby224 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@CptSlow89you happy or sad?

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 Před 2 lety +3

    5600x prices comes down on 229$ and 12400/f are around 180-208$ and that means when you combine them with cheapest mobos then pc build are basically same cost

  • @zhabkins
    @zhabkins Před 2 lety

    Hello, ​ @Jarrod'sTech
    Could you please give me an advice if I should wait for the laptops with the new gen of processors (12 Intel/6000 AMD) or buy a Legion Legion 7 (5800h/3070), which now has a very nice price in my region(2700 AUD, no operating system, which used to have price = 3200 AUD with an operating system and 2900 AUD without one)?

  • @seanconroy1143
    @seanconroy1143 Před 2 lety +1

    Whens the New Asus TUF series laptops coming out? hope to see a video on it soon!

  • @Kpucin0
    @Kpucin0 Před 2 lety +10

    Intel making a great price to performance product ? damn.. what year is it

  • @k24skin
    @k24skin Před 2 lety +6

    Better check those two CPU prices as of today 3-15-22 and you'll find that the R5 5600X is at Micro Center for $209 and the i5 12400 "NON F" is $169 so, seems like a great time to upgrade to a new CPU whether your Team Red or Team Blue ;)

  • @Supcharged
    @Supcharged Před 2 lety

    Have you been able to get your hands on any Rembrandt laptops yet?

  • @marwanamr5941
    @marwanamr5941 Před 2 lety

    Hey Jarrod, I was thinking of buying the Lenovo legion 5 pro is it worth it for gaming or no?

  • @masx4813
    @masx4813 Před 2 lety +7

    can't wait for ryzen 6000 vs 12th gen intel on Laptop Comparison

    • @nast1180
      @nast1180 Před 2 lety +1

      Same

    • @adam632
      @adam632 Před 2 lety +1

      good year for laptops with AMD!

  • @Verpal
    @Verpal Před 2 lety +23

    That's strange, usually sponsor product are bad/expensive deal, SN570 is actually a pretty good deal though.

  • @adityasinha8018
    @adityasinha8018 Před 2 lety +2

    When are the other CES laptop reviews coming?

  • @lovetheentertainment9949
    @lovetheentertainment9949 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you please make a video on which are the best laptops under $1000.
    For every price segment like $300, $400, $500, $600, $700, $800, $900, $1000
    Divide them into categories based on prices.
    Like for example,
    For $300 this models from hp, dell, lenovo, msi, asus, acer are best.
    Do for all price segments and for all brands

  • @robertstan298
    @robertstan298 Před 2 lety +14

    I find the B660 on offer to be quite lacking in the value department, the lower price cut off being noticeably above where B550 start (and there's even cheaper options than this).
    So value wise there isn't much of a difference (provided you find a 5600X on offer, but that's not too hard nowadays, even seen some at $220). It's sure is nice to have options in a pinch tho.

  • @fergusgerodias
    @fergusgerodias Před 4 měsíci +6

    It’s crazy to think that it took nearly two years to finally beat the R5 5600X. AMD is pushing Intel into a more competitive market, which is great for consumers who now have more options to choose from.

    • @osopenowsstudio9175
      @osopenowsstudio9175 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Hopefully AMD could do the same in the GPU sector, the GPU market is almost dogshit (Nvidia being Ngreedia)

    • @Alexpsy1
      @Alexpsy1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@osopenowsstudio9175 AMD has been doing that for years... all RX GPU' s offer better performance for the same price or same performance for less money.

    • @62185hhh
      @62185hhh Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@Alexpsy1hahahahah no it doesn't

    • @Alexpsy1
      @Alexpsy1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@62185hhh was it fummy? Did you like it a lot? Cool... now find me a Nvidia GPU that's better at the same price.

  • @w0ngky
    @w0ngky Před rokem

    Thank you for this video.
    I dont understand what 1% lows are when you compare the FPS for the 10 different games

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před rokem

      It's a way of showing the dips in performance, this video explains it well: czcams.com/video/l6WgbfG_z-k/video.html

  • @dorkster3864
    @dorkster3864 Před rokem

    now i know which one to choose as the price between the two cpus are barely the same where i live.. going for the ryzen.. thanks

  • @oldschoolpro
    @oldschoolpro Před 2 lety +3

    Wooww.. hope you test 12700F Vs 5800X

  • @Blue-jn1ph
    @Blue-jn1ph Před rokem +4

    12400f is basically the same price as the ryzen 5 5600x now

    • @CptSlow89
      @CptSlow89 Před 10 měsíci

      More expensive in my country.

  • @M8cool
    @M8cool Před 2 lety +1

    10:47 typo in the heading. Great video nonetheless

  • @marshal7969
    @marshal7969 Před 2 lety +2

    Bro can u do sim racing titles on your benchmarks? Because most Sim Racing titles like iRacing & Assetto Corsa Competezione rely heavily on cpu when there's like more than 20 and above people on a server and I think it's a good cpu benchmark. Also note that most sim racing titles are heavily reliant on single core performance, thanks!
    edit: F1 2021 is not a racing simulator

    • @shiwez7134
      @shiwez7134 Před rokem

      have you figured out which one is better? i play ac and need a upgrade asap

  • @niospartan
    @niospartan Před 2 lety +39

    Looking forward to when retailers drop prices when am5 comes out. The 5000 cpus are great still with a price drop theyd be fantastic. But intel is actually competing finally.

    • @sahilbaori9052
      @sahilbaori9052 Před 2 lety

      Yeah with desktop class cpu's in laptop.

    • @TheGXDivider
      @TheGXDivider Před 2 lety +2

      The 5900X is about USD 450 in my country now, but still more expensive than the 12700K. If I was building a gaming rig it would be a no brainer to get the 12700K.

    • @InfiniteDarkMass
      @InfiniteDarkMass Před 2 lety +1

      Don't know how it works in other countries, but I've never seen a 40% price drop on a cpu. If I wanted to upgrade a little bit without changing my 5 year old motherboard, the price to performance on those cpus just makes zero sense.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety +3

      @@TheGXDivider That depends because the motherboard costs are often vastly different. To get a 12700k you need a $200+ board that is a Z series. You could get a 5900x + b550 for roughly the same price and that would be faster.... No need for X series boards from AMD...

    • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
      @canadianwildlifeservice8883 Před 2 lety +1

      The 5600X just dropped to $230. Almost all other game benchmarks score it higher than the 12400f.

  • @sachiyamobilegaming2355
    @sachiyamobilegaming2355 Před rokem +4

    In my region r5 5600x and i5 12th cost exactly same. But given the motherboard cost is higher for 12th gen, ryzen 5 is cheaper. And also we can only buy i5 12th if we're building a pc from their shop.

  • @KimBoKastekniv47
    @KimBoKastekniv47 Před 2 lety

    Welcome back to Jarrod's Unboxed.

  • @JuanBarretoC
    @JuanBarretoC Před 4 měsíci

    Perfect video!

  • @sjraneyumo6049
    @sjraneyumo6049 Před 2 lety +34

    The wd sn570 is actually really good I have used and it was in my budget.

    • @Spido68_the_spectator
      @Spido68_the_spectator Před 2 lety +3

      Replaces the venerable SN550 which got a dodgy downgrade which made it way worse for heavy file transfers

    • @edderwright9042
      @edderwright9042 Před 2 lety +1

      How? It costs $160 for 1TB.

    • @sjraneyumo6049
      @sjraneyumo6049 Před 2 lety +1

      @@edderwright9042 $118 for 1tb, in India(amzn)

    • @edderwright9042
      @edderwright9042 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sjraneyumo6049 That's an average price for 1TB gen3 SSD

    • @Royan1900
      @Royan1900 Před 2 lety +2

      Any idea how it compares to WD750 SE (1 TB)? Thanks

  • @yagami_kun
    @yagami_kun Před 2 lety +6

    Hard to say which is better in term of performance but if you want budget friendly cpu with a great performance, i5 12400f if the best choice

    • @sora_1007
      @sora_1007 Před 3 měsíci +1

      b660m и 12400f не бюджетно, а вот b550m и 5600 вот это бюджетно намного бюджетно

  • @PankajKumar-ku7yd
    @PankajKumar-ku7yd Před 2 lety

    When will be the new nitro and tuff review coming {3060ti variant} ?

  • @promo130
    @promo130 Před 2 lety

    By far the best channel for gaming benchmarks

  • @philkuma
    @philkuma Před 2 lety +12

    Hi man great video, could you compare RTX 3050 desktop vs laptop ?

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 Před 2 lety +2

      Why even bother?
      The desktop would be faster obv

    • @philkuma
      @philkuma Před 2 lety +2

      @@sushimshah2896 I know man I'm not dumb, I just want to know the gap between the two

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 2 lety +2

      I want to, but I just don't have any 3050 laptops right now.

  • @LaxonPfc
    @LaxonPfc Před 2 lety +13

    Great job by Intel. The only reason i would go Ryzen is because of much better motherboard options. My i5 8400 still manages to get 144fps in every game i throw at it (need that for 144hz monitor) so i should probably just save the money and snipe a better GPU

    • @grobariza
      @grobariza Před rokem +1

      radeon or rtx?

    • @abskulOfficial
      @abskulOfficial Před 10 měsíci

      What are your specs? I got i5 9400F coupled with RTX 3060Ti and I have crazy bottleneck issues with my build! 144fps for my build is like impossible at the moment. Am I missing something here?

    • @LaxonPfc
      @LaxonPfc Před 10 měsíci

      @@abskulOfficial Yea in my case it was games like CS:GO that were able to get 144fps, everything newer was a big bottleneck. Recently i upgraded to i5 12400f and bottleneck was completly removed. You need a faster cpu for that gpu 100%

    • @abskulOfficial
      @abskulOfficial Před 10 měsíci

      @@LaxonPfc I have heard that 12400f runs hotter and has throttling issues in stressed conditions. How's your experience? Did you consider R5 5600X while upgrading?

    • @LaxonPfc
      @LaxonPfc Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@abskulOfficial 63°C max temperature in CPU heavy games with stock cooler. I bought cheap 20$ cooler and now my max temp is 52. The only actual problem with stock cooler is noise, its waaay too loud. I did consider r5 5600 and thats probably even better option right now since u can upgrade to amazing ryzen 5800X3D in few years if u need to

  • @longdang2681
    @longdang2681 Před 2 lety

    @Jarrod's Tech was there any change to the radiator fan noise/fan speed during the temperature test?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 2 lety

      It was the same at all times during all tests.

    • @longdang2681
      @longdang2681 Před 2 lety

      @@JarrodsTech were they fixed speed fans or adapting to temperature ones? It's a bit strange that the Intel is reporting 9 degrees cooler under the same cooling/same load? I've seen some games being benchmarked that also show the Intel 12th gen reporting lower temps. In theory 12 gen temp reporting seams to be in line with 11th gen,10th gen etc. but then that would lead to imply that AMD is under reporting it's total cpu power dissipation requirements for processor coolers(tdp).

  • @l0ngbon392
    @l0ngbon392 Před 2 lety +2

    Jarrod…. Would you say 12400F would be good enough for gaming AND streaming at the same time? Thanks

  • @bfish9700
    @bfish9700 Před 2 lety +3

    My desktop has an 11400, no regrets. Probably by the time I'm ready to upgrade, I'll get all new everything.

  • @NightMotorcyclist
    @NightMotorcyclist Před 2 lety +11

    Right now in the US the 12400 can be had for $170 USD and the Ryzen 5 5600X can be had for $240... AMD is being really bad about lowering prices in the light of competition and should be avoided at this point unless you are stuck on an AM4 platform. Heck, even the 12600K ( which I recently bought to be an intel build alongside my 5600X build) cost $250 and performs better than the 5600X and in some instances the 5800X.

  • @Tim0909
    @Tim0909 Před 2 lety

    Hi Jarrod, do you think the 10400F will be compatible up until the rtx5000 series?

  • @krishnendu_roy
    @krishnendu_roy Před rokem +1

    what to do if i get both at similar prices?
    in fact 5600x is sometimes even cheaper than 12400f sometimes

  • @freaky425
    @freaky425 Před 2 lety +8

    I think spending a bit more to get non F version is hugely better, Intel's igpu will give a great performance boost in many creative applications and often handy in troubleshooting too. Overall, I5 is a much better deal as the gaming difference with be lower with Lower tier GPU too. it is such a shame AMD released 6 core 1600AF for $84 when it was an underdog and then literally eliminated ryzen 3 line budget line and put a tag of $300 for 6 core 5600x. How time reveals the nasty face of companies!

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 Před 2 lety +1

      Didn't the 1600AF use the 14nm process from AMD's former foundry?
      I wouldn't say AMD completely dropped the R3, but Zen 3's certainly isn't available in the DIY space. (Perhaps Zen 3's yields were _too_ good. Not helping matters is the fact that TSMC's faced especially high demand on top of Taiwan experiencing drought conditions, the latter making semiconductor production more difficult.)

    • @freaky425
      @freaky425 Před 2 lety

      @@sonicboy678 1600AF used 12nm process. ryzen 5 series 1600,2600,3600 all had generation improvement for similar price range, but 5000 series was like, you cant get the benefit of next gen if you dont pay 100$ extra.

  • @3uphrates
    @3uphrates Před 2 lety +10

    I’m a bit confused @5:30
    “Basically the right side shows how much faster Ryzen was in some tests, while the left shows how much slower Intel was compared to Ryzen.”

  • @AnkurFFM
    @AnkurFFM Před 7 měsíci +1

    The End of the AM4 Platform was the Ryzen 5800X3D, which offers Ryzen 7600X performance on an AM4 Platform. Ok, not launched or announced at the time of making this video ...

  • @Alexander-wt3os
    @Alexander-wt3os Před 2 lety +1

    You are one of youtubers that I watch the ADs to the end.

  • @AdityaGupta-om8ez
    @AdityaGupta-om8ez Před 2 lety +14

    Hey Jarrod, should I go for the i5 - 11400F or i5- 12400F because in my country 12400f with b660 costs about $200 more than 11400f with b560 ( I am totally fine with DDR4).
    I don't think the performance gap will be worth this much.

    • @Pamani_
      @Pamani_ Před 2 lety +4

      When you 200$ more you mean 550$ vs 350$ or 850$ vs 650$ ?

    • @AdityaGupta-om8ez
      @AdityaGupta-om8ez Před 2 lety

      @@Pamani_ $300 vs $470

    • @Pamani_
      @Pamani_ Před 2 lety +4

      @@AdityaGupta-om8ez I guess that B660 is quite a bit better but still that's a huge difference. Unless you play CPU heavy games at 1080p or plan to upgrade to 13th gen Raptor Lake, I'd go with the 11400f.

    • @AdityaGupta-om8ez
      @AdityaGupta-om8ez Před 2 lety

      @@Pamani_ thanks

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 Před 2 lety +3

      Why not just buy a 5600X at that point. B660 motherboards are not gonna get any cheaper, but AMD B550s (or older) already are quite a bit cheaper.

  • @internetuser4689
    @internetuser4689 Před 2 lety +53

    As a Ryzen user i can say that alder lake is looking good.
    Ryzen 5600x price should be reduced as fast as possible.
    Amd is doing what Intel done some time ago. Keeping high prices basically.

    • @tony001212
      @tony001212 Před 2 lety

      That's not it, what happens is that AMD's chips are built by tsmc and with the scarcity of chips in 2020-2022 because of pandemy causes tsmc is extremely saturated, on the other hand intel has its own production plants so they can produce more chips than AMD can right now.
      By the way, I just ordered the 12600k, looking forward for it to arrive, finally I'm changing my old ryzen 7 2700x.

    • @Aditya-tt1ws
      @Aditya-tt1ws Před 2 lety

      @@tony001212 How much you paid for the 12600k?

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tony001212 Why go back to Intel when you could go to a 5800x for less than the price of that 12600k setup.....

    • @ScavengerFX
      @ScavengerFX Před 2 lety +2

      I JUST bought a 12400 because it was the better deal for price and performance.
      And I'm a huge AMD fan.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety

      @@ScavengerFX You are either full of shit or you live in a country where AMD isn't available.
      Intel is literally more money for less performance, while using more power and requiring a beefier cooler.
      Maybe you work for Intel.

  • @kiriyamarei7358
    @kiriyamarei7358 Před rokem

    great video very intuitive

  • @jayrajgor18
    @jayrajgor18 Před 2 lety

    Hey Jarrod would this processor would be enough or good for 4k editing? With 3050 or lower GPU
    Btw I have heard that the non F i5 12400's igpu also work in premiere for h.264codec with the e GPU does that I GPU works automatically or we have to do some settings

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Před 2 lety +1

      Should do, that said iGPU will boost Premiere scores, check out the Tech Notice channel, he either has a video up or is doing one very soon comparing these CPUs in more creator focused workloads :) czcams.com/users/TechNoticeOfficial

    • @jayrajgor18
      @jayrajgor18 Před 2 lety

      @@JarrodsTech yess Jarrod I had watched one of his video related to that! But also wanted to ask you that's why :) but I got my answers from both of you.
      Thankyou for taking your time & replying appreciated 🙌

  • @Pruflas-Watts
    @Pruflas-Watts Před 2 lety +16

    I used to be team red, I remember when I would root for AMD back in 2016 with my FX 8350, hoping 1st gen ryzen would do solid. Here I am with a Ryzen 5 3600, AMD jacked up the prices on all of their crap, being greedy with their business practices and really don't care about the consumer; never thought I'd be happy to see Intel clap back at them.

    • @ezer0923
      @ezer0923 Před 2 lety +1

      Having lower profits back then, their R&D definitely was limited. You can't just ask the board for more R&D budget without seeing an increase in profit.
      With more command on pricing now, I hope AMD will invest it back to R&D

    • @J-Kimble
      @J-Kimble Před 2 lety +10

      They are running a business.
      At least they don't release redundant, pointless products like Intel used to do (for more money I might add). Looking at you Kaby lake.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety +5

      AMD isn't "being greedy" they have a finite number of CPU's and quite a bit of debt pay off and shareholders to appease. Intel has like 5x the mfg capacity (of just CPU's) vs AMD's entire wafer allocation @ TSMC.... The reason all their cheaper stuff is still on Zen1 and Zen+ because its made at GloFlo and AMD can still compete on price there. The Zen2 and Zen3 stuff all uses the same wafers which are already in short supply.... AMD has massive orders from big HPC and datacenter customers and cannot afford to allocate wafers to build budget CPU's which turn $0 in profit at the cost of high re-design and re-tooling costs. Budget CPU's only can break even with massive volume that AMD cannot do.
      The more you understand the semiconductor industry the more you understand that AMD is a victim of its own success. Not that they have gotten greedy.

    • @kardeon4503
      @kardeon4503 Před 2 lety +1

      Stop crying like a child

    • @mirage8753
      @mirage8753 Před 2 lety +3

      oh man, think first before buying something. all those talks about crap are pointless, just check what is better price/performance and buy it. you have plenty of info with tests nowadays

  • @dhanvinvinod
    @dhanvinvinod Před 2 lety +5

    E sport titles like R6 seige, CS GO and Valorant are heavily l3 cache dependent. That is why the Ryzen shines here. This is the same difference seen when testing the 5600g and 5600x. It is not an 'issue' like you said
    The bigger cache helps AMD spread its legs here.

  • @time7523
    @time7523 Před 2 lety

    Sir when legion 5i pro 2022 ..
    You gonna review .🖤🙂

  • @qeissulthon4145
    @qeissulthon4145 Před 2 lety

    can u review msi vector gp66 12u? i probably gonna buy it tomorrow

  • @user-rc3fj2jh5f
    @user-rc3fj2jh5f Před 2 lety +7

    Am4 still supports one future cpu for upgrade, 5800X3D. It would probably has the same gaming performance as the 13th gen i7, and be a significant upgrade from 5600X.

  • @polardabear
    @polardabear Před 2 lety +7

    The 12400f is an amazing option for budget build's. Z690 is good when using cpu's like 12600K and above.
    B660 is a great option for the 12400f.

    • @hevz6339
      @hevz6339 Před 2 lety

      does higher teir cpus work with b660 motherboards as well or is z690 what you should be aiming for?

    • @polardabear
      @polardabear Před 2 lety +1

      @@hevz6339+ B660, H610, H670 and Z690 are for the LGA1700 (12th series). Z690 is the way to go when getting a 12600K and above.
      B660 is better when using a 12400f and it's also not overclockable and other mobos than the Z690 may not even support cpu overclocking.

    • @hevz6339
      @hevz6339 Před 2 lety

      @@polardabear you seem to have good knowledge about this so what’s your assessment, right now am thinking of buying a b660 asus tuff plus Wi-Fi motherboard (or whatever it’s called) and parring it with a intel core i5-12400f, though with planes in the future to upgrade to a better cpu, whether it’s a higher 12th gen or 13th gen and also ddr5, will it work or do I need a better motherboard for this?

    • @polardabear
      @polardabear Před 2 lety +1

      @@hevz6339+ The motherboard you're looking at is a bit expensive (219€).
      With that price i would go with Z690.
      Also DDR5 ram is right now not worth it.

    • @hevz6339
      @hevz6339 Před 2 lety

      @@polardabear I know ddr5 ain’t worth it right now am just thinking for the future, but I have heard a lot of decent things about the tuf motherboard, if you say I should go for z690 chipset then what do you think about ASUS prime WiFi d4? It’s still relatively in the budget for me and seems to work with the specs.

  • @chickennoodle6620
    @chickennoodle6620 Před 2 lety

    I was wondering if you could compare the 5500 or 5600 to the 12400f since they seem to match more in terms of budget?

    • @angrysocialjusticewarrior
      @angrysocialjusticewarrior Před rokem

      No need for that comparison. The 12400f already demonstrated that it rivals the 5600x. This means the 5600 will be slightly behind the 12400 and the 5500 is not even in the same league. 5500 would probably be more suitable to being compared to an i3.

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk Před 2 lety

    If a motherboard manufacturer comes out with a B660 ddr4 motherboard that allows B-clock overclocking (There are B660 ddr5 motherboards that do) then a 5ghz i5-12400F will be something special.

  • @saturnotaku
    @saturnotaku Před 2 lety +7

    The Core i5 12400 is on sale for $170 at MicroCenter right now, making it an even better value.

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 Před 2 lety +1

      You may have also noticed the 5600X is also currently at $240 there. Making your point a bit moot.

    • @TheThatsnasty
      @TheThatsnasty Před 2 lety +10

      @@robertstan298 How is $70 moot?
      Also you can baseclock overclock the 12400s with b series boards, to insane levels. Find a good deal on a motherboard and there is 0 reason to buy AMD ( other than already having the AM4 board).

    • @MeowthGamer19
      @MeowthGamer19 Před 2 lety

      @@robertstan298 lol

    • @spookyskellyskeleton609
      @spookyskellyskeleton609 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheThatsnasty well the mobo is like twice the price so yea no reason to get Intel

    • @gladcomming
      @gladcomming Před 2 lety

      @@spookyskellyskeleton609 well ryzen is almost 2.5 years old so better pick is i5 12400f

  • @vamc_krishna
    @vamc_krishna Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Jarrod

  • @Joker-no1fz
    @Joker-no1fz Před 2 lety +1

    jarrod do a blck mother board and overclock the 12400f. on b660 or h670

  • @CESAR_H_ARIAS
    @CESAR_H_ARIAS Před 2 lety +10

    The i5 makes sense to new builders but for who already have the am4 motherboard ryzen still makes sense. With the 8cores the things turns in favor of Intel definitely. Lets see what amd brings with zen4 and am5.

  • @OnlyCitrus
    @OnlyCitrus Před 2 lety +11

    5600X will be a good upgrade from my 2400G once I get my hands on a GPU, given that I can save some money as my mobo supports the CPU.

  • @JuanK2390
    @JuanK2390 Před 5 měsíci

    Well, right now both are at a same price in my country, the problem now is find a decent motherboard features/price/vrm so the question is, at the same price what cpu to choose!?

  • @MrRetrogoo
    @MrRetrogoo Před 2 lety +1

    I suppose the choice comes between of you already have a Ryzen mobo or no. For a new build the Intel will be superior

  • @EdwardElric6464
    @EdwardElric6464 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Wow this really turned around for AMD with some price cuts, game bundles & price hikes for Intel. I was considering the 12400 or 12400f but when the 5600 was much cheaper even then the F model it was kinda a no brainer. Good to see neither company absolutely sucking.

    • @RoninjaTA
      @RoninjaTA Před 5 měsíci

      You think getting a 5600 is better than 12400f? Im looking for a cpu with good multi tasking and good performance overall in gaming.5600 is 160 dollars and i5 is 200 where i live

    • @somedude6420
      @somedude6420 Před 3 měsíci

      @@RoninjaTA you know the answer

  • @Jimster481
    @Jimster481 Před 2 lety +12

    The competition here is good, but the reality is that the Intel motherboards are roughly double that of the AMD motherboards... meaning that you cannot build a 12400F machine for less money than a 5600x machine. Making the 12400F pointless. Also Newegg keeps having sales on the 5600x bringing the price down to around $260 which closes the gap even further.

    • @taylorbristow6067
      @taylorbristow6067 Před 2 lety

      i dont rlly know about motherboards in general. whats the ryzen chipset equivalent of the asrock b660?

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety

      @@taylorbristow6067 AMD b550. ASrock is just one of the companies making motherboards, the B550 chipset is made by AMD and is used by all the different board makers.

    • @polarbear9672
      @polarbear9672 Před 2 lety +1

      That's just not true, a decent quality B660 motherboard can be had for low $100s range.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 Před 2 lety +1

      @@polarbear9672 A month later there are some cheaper B660 boards.... however considering how limited the features are and how AMD has dropped prices.... its kinda pointless.

    • @LiegeMaximo
      @LiegeMaximo Před rokem

      @@polarbear9672 hmm no, here all are 200$+

  • @AintPopular
    @AintPopular Před rokem

    As of now the prices deals are at similar cost 270 mobo cpu give or take. Which one should i go for

  • @user-xq2qe8oh4u
    @user-xq2qe8oh4u Před 2 lety

    Good day. 3 years ago I assembled a PC for 2650v2 and 1070 but the mother died. I want to assemble a new one. Either 10,400 or 12,100 or better already 12,400. I have 2 monitors. On one chrome with 20 tabs CZcams and Spotify and on the other I play. Energy consumption is also important to me. Which processor would you recommend to me? thank you

  • @D3monL3A1
    @D3monL3A1 Před 2 lety +3

    as always intel has hidden costs in the high motherboard and memory prices forcing you to upgrade while with amd you probably already had the am4 motheboard so the cost is only the cpu hence why saying intel is cheaper is not true when you look at the total cost a processor alone does not a computer make

    • @shekhsaiful1054
      @shekhsaiful1054 Před 2 lety

      Not really now since , now will take departure from am4 socket and coming with new am5 and also same case with intel (always new mb ) so .. i guess here i would go for intel .. but when am5 comes in with 7600 lets see who will lure my pocket

  • @OrjonZ
    @OrjonZ Před 2 lety +6

    One thing people forget is then while cpu is 90$ more and in % terms looks relative high, when u compare to the entire system
    Cost $1000, it’s only 9% more expensive for 9% more performance… $90 is only good if you use it to upgrade gpu tier.

    • @Eswar.
      @Eswar. Před 2 lety +2

      Hai
      From INDIA
      Just ordered zephrys g14 ryzen 7 5800hs +1650
      FOR 870$
      Amazon*renewed* one
      What do you say
      My uses
      Watching lectures
      Movies and CZcams
      Video EDITING

    • @BarAlexC
      @BarAlexC Před 2 lety

      $90 is $90 and is always good. Be it for better GPU or ...better coffee for that matter. Why pay more for the same level of performance ever?

    • @OrjonZ
      @OrjonZ Před 2 lety +1

      @@BarAlexC it is not the same level of performance and 5600x is a proven cpu and now over 1 year old so there is that. If you build new sure. Also it can still be had for less than 290, have seen it many places for 260.
      At the same time u can drop in 5800x3d, 5950x but most likely oft 12400f system you would need to overbuy mb to support 12900k.

    • @crisschan2463
      @crisschan2463 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, the mobo to support the cpu oc for intel will hike the price high

    • @adityadivine9750
      @adityadivine9750 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Eswar. more than enough, killer price, good deal : )

  • @kushagra4282
    @kushagra4282 Před rokem +1

    Should I go for the 12400 instead of the 12400f just to be on the safer side in a scenario where the dedicated GPU just goes dead..? Would there be any difference in performance?
    And speaking of which, how likely are GPUs to malfunction? Do different brands of GPUs offer different durability ? Can I just go for cheaper brands like INNO3D or Galax instead of spending more on MSI or Asus for RTX 3060.

    • @Wolfie_96
      @Wolfie_96 Před rokem +1

      No idea if you already pulled the trigger, but the 12400f 100%, save yourself some money. GPUs really don't go wrong enough for you to overspend on a failsafe like that.
      The way gpu pricing works is that the cheap brands will take the basic spec from nvidia and just slap a cooler on it, whereas the main brands actually design a custom board that will generally perform much better and potentially be much cooler/quieter. It's up to you if the price difference is worth it though ofc :)

  • @deltaghost1
    @deltaghost1 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you also make a review video of i3 12100F

  • @Hatsunari_Kamado
    @Hatsunari_Kamado Před 2 lety +5

    Honestly, 12600K is still the best value compared to 5600X.

  • @ImperialDiecast
    @ImperialDiecast Před rokem +3

    intel cpu is still more expensive.

  • @bigboyanimation3799
    @bigboyanimation3799 Před 6 měsíci

    I want to know who last longer years between these two cpu?

  • @Adhyastawi
    @Adhyastawi Před 2 lety

    what motherboard should i get for 12400f? i need like the budget

  • @dontsupportrats4089
    @dontsupportrats4089 Před 2 lety +3

    Keep in mind, if you plan on an ARC gpu for your system, you do not want an "F" chip. ARC gpu's will utilize Intel IGPU for a performance gain not available with "F" and AMD chips.

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 Před 2 lety +2

      AMD used to have this feature long time ago with the A apus that you could connect igpu with GPU and have a bit better performance

  • @kingfayaiz44
    @kingfayaiz44 Před rokem +3

    Amd is the reason why we can buy intel cpus

  • @s.a7255
    @s.a7255 Před 2 lety +1

    For 3D works ( blender / Maya / cinema4D / keyshot /unreal engine ) which one would be preferable ? Ryzen or Intel ?

    • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
      @canadianwildlifeservice8883 Před 2 lety

      You watched this video, right? 03:10 Clearly Intel is better for rendering and Maya/Blender. But honestly I would go with an eight core 5800X/12700K instead if you are using it for rendering.

  • @A93ken
    @A93ken Před rokem +2

    What would you recommend if both are of similar prices ? (in my country price is same)

    • @abderraoufsabri2319
      @abderraoufsabri2319 Před rokem

      You should look either at motherboards prices, not just CPUs cz that will be a cross point

  • @bluemodize7718
    @bluemodize7718 Před 2 lety +6

    We all agree that alder lake was one of the hardest punches to AMD, I am really excited to see what AMD will offer in the next gen

    • @Mr11ESSE111
      @Mr11ESSE111 Před 2 lety +3

      Still AMD are pretty fine in gaming

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mr11ESSE111 AMD dropped prices a bit now(at least in my country) so again it's just a matter of preference which platform you go, both price/performance are about the same zen3 vs alder lake.
      Ryzen 5900x didn't get cheaper tho and it's kinda a bad deal now compared to 12700f which costs 200$ less but performance is the same.
      I can get a whole 12700f+b660+ram combo here for about the same price as 5900x alone.

    • @bluemodize7718
      @bluemodize7718 Před 2 lety

      @@Mr11ESSE111 It is but for price to performance it got bad honestly, but it's fine because it's an old generation I am very excited to see zen4 will it be able to give us a better price performance for the money or not

    • @bluemodize7718
      @bluemodize7718 Před 2 lety

      @@damara2268 yeah that's right but I do think the 12th gen CPUs are better than the 5000 series from AMD especially for someone is building his first pc because if you already have an am4 motherboard 5000 CPUs make sense in terms of price to performance

    • @Mr11ESSE111
      @Mr11ESSE111 Před 2 lety

      @@damara2268 wait for month of two, AMD will soon must lowering prices alot because sale will go down and zen4 is still far away and its questionable in performance too

  • @tyre1337
    @tyre1337 Před 2 lety +8

    sweet, 90% performance of a 5600x at 33% less price

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 Před 2 lety +3

      45%*

    • @gameison4813
      @gameison4813 Před 2 lety +1

      it won't be that great if you actually buy it. You will need motherboard and amd boards are much cheaper. Even if you want to use crappy board with no heathsinks and crappy audio and ethernet than you will pay more than good quality b550 board cost.

    • @MeowthGamer19
      @MeowthGamer19 Před 2 lety

      @@gameison4813 big VRMs aren't needed for Non-K products, and Mobo pricing are high due to demand and low supply. 5600X is a good deal if you can get a used one for $160-200

  • @twopic6154
    @twopic6154 Před 2 lety

    What overclock settings did you put

  • @tausif-gaming047
    @tausif-gaming047 Před 2 lety +2

    This particular WD SSD I have brought up recently 😍

  • @emp1985
    @emp1985 Před 2 lety +4

    In reality, I think the best 6 core CPU right now is the 11400(F). It can be found for $150 nowadays!