Naked Sports Six Way Shootout
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- Once upon a time, OEM streetfighters weren’t a thing. Instead, streetfighter motorcycles were solely the province of riders who were forced by finances to become customizers, with many getting their start after plastic-grinding slides down the pavement. The cost of replacement factory bodywork being what it was (and still is), many young riders were challenged when it came time to fix their damaged rides. So, the bodywork came off, and their sportbike’s industrial underbelly was exposed for the world to see - the rougher the better - with the scars from tangles with the laws of physics displayed with pride. Eventually, streetfighters became something other than a repair option. Instead, riders began taking new bikes and stripping perfectly good components off of them. Custom parts geared towards this market mushroomed, and much like cafe racers, a grass-roots-inspired motorcycle class was born.
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Where's the super duke?
I am PROFOUNDLY not interested in this class of motorcycle, but I keep coming back to this video because it's simply the best-made shootout video on the internet.
Me too!
I don't care which bike . I just wanna ride that road with that scenery with a bunch of mates !
Yep and put a blanket down and make love with them lmao
James Avery hahahahaaha
Bmw S1000R, Ktm Superduke, Yamaha MT10. Pointless comparison without these.
MUNROmusic big money difference. You could buy the Suzuki and the Kawasaki for what the BMW and kTM cost! Almost anyways they are a lot more money so they should be far better!
Tammy Forbes and the aprilia isn't ?
I have a Touno Factory in my garage, after 40 + years of riding it's hands down the best motorcycle I've ever ridden. 👍👍
Me too. Love it.
Me four! I love my Tuono RF!!
I want one so badly!! I've got a Tuono 1000R which I still absolutely love though
i think the 1000R looks hideous, i wouldn't ride it even if its free, how does it ride though?
Tony Tng have a 1000r it handles great turns in fast holds a line, been riding for 8 yrs now and the bike is a lot better than me. mid range torque and sound is ridiculous
I have never seen an Aprilla dealer where I am so that's off the list right away. Z1000 is the best looking and for everyday normal riders probably fast enough and pulls hard enough, plus every town has a kawasaki dealer in it. good vid. cheers.
Matt Helps yea well you can buy two of the others for what one Aprillia cost! So it should be a no Brainer unless you’re just rich and money isn’t a factor!
I'd go to the Suzuki. As great as others for less.
you all probably dont give a shit but does anyone know of a tool to get back into an instagram account?
I somehow forgot my password. I would love any tricks you can offer me
@Knox Charlie Instablaster ;)
This video is legendary to me. I saw it when I started riding, and it impacted me deeply: the riding, the filming, the discussions, the roads, the bikes… I come back to watch it over the years
The Suzuki has a $1,000.00 incentive right now.If the dealer moves on his price too,you can buy that bike for a little over $8,000.00. I don't care what anyone says...That's a real bargain.
Aaron Moon I am currently working on buying a new left over 2018 for $8k our the door tax, license, destination, charge all included! Dude said when this corona was over bring my half down and he didn’t give a shit if I had credit or not he said his dealer would finance it for that much down! But my credit is ok I should be able to just go drop off my down payment and pick it up! I know they want rid of the old ones so they ain’t gotta pay the taxes on them again this year! Plus money and jobs have went away so not many running around with credit and $5k to put down so I bet they will be all over it needing the business! Corona gonna help me get far more bike then I would have a year ago. I’m also looking at MT09 and MT10 I’m a big guy 6’3” 250lbs so I need a big heavy bike I feel more stable on heavier bikes I felt like my R6 wanted to leave without me it was smaller then me felt like to light to hard to handle for me! It wasn’t the speed or power it was the chassis it was just to small for me I should have never bought that bike but I got an amazing deal and hated to pass it up and I actually made $5k on the bike so I did good there.
For the price and performance the Suzuki was a no brainer for me.. it's a joy to ride.
I really dig this long-form discussion style of shootout... much better than "we caned a dozen liter bikes around a track and they're all unsurprisingly good at it."
No KTM Super Duke or BMW S1000R?? Still love the Aprilia Tuono.
I know I’m a little disappointed that the mt-10 wasn’t a part of this
im still love the GSX-S series that's a amazing machine and controler
gsx-S1000👍
value for money
Yamaha MT-10 -> NO
KTM Super Duke 1290r -> No
BMW S1000r -> No
I think those are in a different class. Maybe super-nakeds.
but the Aprilia belongs to the class too.
From our shootout article you should all read if you really want to find out all about this test: "Our intention with this shootout was to compare only the naked-sport class (not the hyper nakeds like the S1000R and Super Duke, which we have used in comparison tests many times over), with the non-S Ducati Monster ($13,995) and a Yamaha, either the FZ-10 or the XSR900. However, Ducati’s press fleet didn’t have a base Monster, so we had to settle for the upmarket 1200S ($16,395), and Yamaha couldn’t provide us with either of its nakeds in time for our trip. With six riders ready to roll and only five bikes, we needed another steed. Aprilia graciously offered up a Tuono Factory, and although it resides in a higher echelon of performance than what we intended in this comparison, we will never turn down a chance to ride the intoxicating V-4 super fighter." Hope that helps explain how this came together.
It maybe explains the situation, but the shootout still seems "unfinished", for lack of better word. And still, one hyper naked did sneak in, and that made shootout bit confusing. Nevertheless, thanks for the effort. Always enjoying video discussions on powerful nakeds :)
Yes, but why the Aprilia then - your rationale for including it doesn't suffice (oh its fun to ride, whee so we will break our rules and include) and same for the Monster 1200S. You should have excluded them both per your stated rationale not to include Super-Nakeds. Or perhaps because the KTM and S1000R would wipe the floor with all of these bikes with the exception of the Aprilia.
Thanksgiving day and I had some time I pulled this test up from four years ago and I believe the results would probably be the same today although there are better electronics but it was very interesting to watch and I can’t help but agree with everything that was said so You guys didn’t miss a beat and I love watching the older tests tests
great vid, love the mostly discussion. Thanks guys, you do, and you have, a great job. :)
I still love this video!
Really enjoyed this video guys thanks. The naked market is far bigger now than the superbike market so these reviews are becoming more valuable. There's plenty of comments about other bikes that could have been included, but I imagine it depends what bikes you can get hold of. I have to agree with some of the guys though, it seems a bit of a mixed bag of reviews really and some bikes don't match up. For a start the monster doesn't belong in this group. If a ducati was to be included, it should be the streetfighter, either the 848 or 1098. They provide direct competition for the Aprilia. MV have made loads of effort producing the 800 dragster as they are struggling financially and it would have been nice to have seen it in this group as it certainly deserves to be and with 3 cylinders would have been a good competitor to the triumph. That said, even if the bikes don't match up, it still good to hear of any bike being subjectively assessed as you guys do. Thanks again
Japanese m/c any day, any where ,reliable refined..
in 1972 maybe
what about 1290r and bmw 1000s are they not in this category.
no yamaha fz10- MT10 no S1000R ???? or maybe when the video was film it wasn't available
Fz10 probably wasnt available, but strange to see s1kr not there
Yep, the FZ-10 isn't yet available for us in the USA.
+Kevin Duke ive seen an fz10 sitting on dispkay at a dealership in socal and the sales rep told me 8/9 were already sold
No you can buy it right now. It has been here for a while. They could have gotten the fz 09 at least.
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Great video! Very informative!
For the price of the Aprilia you can literally buy two bikes.The suzuki naked and a slightly used supersport!
The components of the Tuono RF are the best on the market.
+67claudius Id rather buy two good bikes than one overpriced bike!
Night Rider Ok, but the Tuono Factory is not overpriced, the high-quality stuff costs.
+67claudius L Whats high quality?
Night Rider Ohlins suspensions, forged aluminum wheels, Brembo brakes M432, Traction Control, AWC (Aprilia Wheelie Control), ALC (Aprilia Launch Control), AQS (Aprilia Quick Shift), Race ABS system, adjustable to three levels. The "rightly" priced Honda CB1000R here has not even the ABS or Traction control.
pretty awesome job these guys have. enjoy it for the rest of us! beautiful bikes, beautiful roads, and some average dudes.
No superduke? Or s1000r or ebr 1190?
When I went shopping this past fall, I had tried the GSX-S, the Monster 1200, the Speed Triple and the Tuono 1100 Factory. They were all very nice motorcycles, and I had the least time on the Triumph. It was my second choice, behind the Tuono. I ended up buying the Tuono 1100RR which is basically the Factory with Sachs instead of Ohlins, and given my own skill and that I do not ride on a track, the savings were both worthwhile and practical. Others may have different use cases. I did not get a lot of kms on before winter arrived, but I have no regrets and love it more each ride.
No surprise the most expensive bike won. One day I'll get my hands on a Tuono, But for now I'm more than happy with my GSX S1000.
how would you compare the mv agusta brutale 800 RR against these motorcycles???
great review and the lack of super duke and s1000r is there ,but all new suzuki and triumph covered that :)
I love how it's a naked bike shootout, and the first bike introduced has a full fairing.
10.5 for the Suzuki? Over here in Germany it's around 13k€, which is around 14.6k US$.. Lucky you..
21000 US dollars in denmark for the GSXS1000, and the Tuono is 36000 US dollars, i love my country, but WTF.
Great video, I really enjoyed it.
I was hopi g for FZ-10 :(
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No fz10, no s1000r, no KTM SuperDuke, no MV Brutale 1090rr... GTFO.
Yea pretty bad in my opinion.
Me too. Especially because I've got an FZ6-R and I'm thinking about an upgrade. Too bad the FZ-10 isn't ther. =/
Because if anyone buys a Brutale they get the 800 Dragter.
Interesting to see the Triumph still impressing with relatively minor updates. Although this was a strange comparison, and not really the bikes I'd be comparing if I was looking to buy a new naked. The Aprilia (especially the Factory version) should be more stacked up against the S1000R and Super Duke, with the Ducati really only in that group due to price. The Japanese bikes and the Speed Triple make for a good comparison, although glaringingly incomplete without the MT-10/FZ-10. It'd be great to see whether the MT-10 can bridge the gap between those groups as well.
Awesome video. 💝 I have Z1000 ABS 2016 in Vietnam. Thanks for your video. I hope the next video have MT10 and Superduke and S1000r. Thanks
Zik Nguyen I was wondering if anyone can comment on cold weather riding. Which one is best for highway colder riding?
Great review, I chose the 750 . It's super cheap fun.
Great video! Nobody comes close to you guys in content. Why wasn't the Grom in the shoot out?! This was an outstanding review but I guess if you don't include everything with two wheels.... Keep doing what you do, I love it!
seriously no s1000r
man, love y'all videos. thanks for great reviews and showing us your camaraderie! -13 year rider (04 Shadow Aero, 12 V Strom 650 & '15 XT250)
For my money I chose the speed triple S. I've ridden the duke, tuono, and S1000r and the Triumph is just next level refined compared to the rest. I can chill and cruise or I can open it up and it'll make your vision blur just like the Tuono. After riding for 18 years I've found out that there's much more to a bike than peak horsepower.
Nice shootout.. just leave out 3 of the best bikes in the category.
Great video guys
i am 6'2 and found the tuono handlebars a bit too low for a street bike and a bit of a stretch. sat on the new gxs1000 and it felt really comfy also as soon as the front tire was light i had some bad shake in the bars so perhaps a steering dampener is required, i rode a used 1000cc tuono and loved it, could it be they shortened the wheelbase a touch with the update? i also tested the s1000r and found it so easy to ride, like you sat deeper in the cockpit and it was effortless where as the tuono needed a little more input, i did have a budget though and ended up with the new 2016 brutale 800, it feels so roomy for a taller rider and at crawling speeds the fuelling is brilliant so easy with the clutch and balanced and boy does it have some character. and a awesome spread of power everywhere. absolutely loving it!! i am not hating on the tuono as id love that power over the brutale, and the sound rocks but the paint job sucks its like one big ass billboard A P R I L I A, and the styling is basically a rsv4 without side panels. at least with the new fz/mt 10 they havent played it safe with the front end of the bike design wise and it looks wicked
The GSX-S1000 easily the most underrated of all nakeds in this class.
just got GSX s1000 lovin it. my triumph 1200 tiger lost 2nd gear 3 weeks in the shop and they can't figure out whats wrong. waiting for feedback from triumph, I think I'm done with them.
where's the Yamaha FZ (MT) 10 and bmw 1000 R?
If I hadn't bought a Multistrada for long trips (just did 3000 miles to Colorado and back), I'd want that Tuono for sure. The V4 sounds amazing.
Aprilia Tuono all day baby!
no. cb1000 :D love your videos btw
I'd pick the Honda. I would bet it is the best built & will out live all the others by at least 3x.
Someone mind telling me the results of this video? The minute I saw the outclassed CB1kR in this video
Why does everyone seem to feel like every test needs to have every bike? There are too many bikes in the category to compare ALL of them in EVERY test.
Agreed, I for one liked seeing the Honda here, it's always Beemer, Duke and Aprilia everywhere!
Honda doesn't update theirs... it's the weakest and heaviest of the group while lacking any kind of electronic aid.. Z1000 just got discontinued.. even looking for a budget bike... I wouldn't have put the CB1000R in this list..
Because the Suzuki, Honda, and Kawasaki don't even really fit in anymore. They are so outdated compared to the rest.
Came here looking for objective views of the previous model cb1000r with regards other options as I'm currently considering buying one. Found a bunch of dudes riding around with a manufactured pillion passenger on a cb1000r, complaining that the CB was overweighted and probably would do better except the Suzuki, with nothing on it and a blown out tyre was amazing. Thanks for the insight, guys. Aprilia objectively the best, despite not being able to pack it with any extra middle-aged dude hairline products or incontinence pants due to the exhaust positioning. Got it.
Hey guys, I am in the market on buying my first bike. I'm between a Monster 797, 821 or a Triumph street twin. looking for something that can do a bit of everything. I haven't ride either of them. what would you suggest?
great vids! thx
Where is FZ-10? lol...
FZ-10 would have taken all of these...
Not available yet.
+Sean Alexander I live in NY I seen them on the streets already.
+Kaha K they mentioned in the video that they couldn't get it.
but they got it before for the review on its own. makes no sense!
So which one is it..The Djucachi or the twyumph or Aprullya or shushuki or kawachaki
Great show ! enjoy the show on the shootout, now can perform a shootout on the following bikes Yamaha xsr900, Ducati 821, kanZ800, and the GSRX 750
Which super naked takes a pillion best?
Anybody knows what jacket is Sean wearing please?
Whose garage is that? I love the Monet book behind Evans.
Immediate thumbs for missing the two best bikes in the class.
Z1000!!! I love my 2012 model...LOVE it.
Love mine too. I have a 2016 Z1000
Gas tank size is it’s only flaw
You kept the Yamaha MT-10 out of it?
Tuono factory, Triumph speed triple S, but no S1000r, right.
I also want to wheelie while exiting a corner.
But i own a 150cc but i love it.
R15V3 it is.
Why not the MT-10? I'm assuming it wasn't out in time?
2:16 I remember that road from one of the NFS games! :) Anyone knows where it is?
While I do appreciate the shoot out, and for the most part I agree with the choices... I really think you should have said "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Touno in this test. It would be like taking a Mustang, Camaro, charger, and a Ferrari and testing them together. Also, as noted by one of the riders... the standard Touno would have been the better test. (But I did like hearing about it) I think you should post up the results, removing the expensive "Super Bike" from the mix. FYI... I've seen a few leftover GSX-S1000's around for well under $10k How can you pass that up? Drop $1000~$1500 into the suspension, and brakes, and you will have a bike that is 95% of the Touno Factory, and have $5k in your pocket still. Just my 2 cents.
Would be cool if you included a joker, like the Triumph Thruxton R just to see how it would compare to "normal" naked bikes. :P Otherwise I like this test, when you are debating like this the atmosphere feels like if you would sit down with your friends and talk about the bikes you have.
Do you guys have Ape shares?
Love to see an unbiased opinion in one of your segments
Thank you gents! I'm really glad you like Aprilia.
not trolling..but how can you put the Honda against the Aprilla. ..its a different league and the triple they have is old..there is a 2016 model out with a bunch of changes to it..
'Guess who packed the CB?" lololol
I own a Z1000. While all the bikes are great I've found that when you buy a naked supersport you arent looking for a higher revving powerplant. For everyday riding and the performance the z1000 offers. I'll take that all day vs a bike that you need to get to higher revs for the power to come on. Along with the suspension the power is always there whenever you need it in a z1000.
If you question is go get on one. Come to a stop. Throw it in 3rd and it will get up and go just fine.
Best all around for your buck. PLUS....they are rare. I've never seen anyone on one in my area except for me. Plus for a larger rider (im 280 lbs) It doesnt have any problem getting up and going vs others wehre you need to get its RPM's up to access the power.
Monster is my favorite. What a freaking gem. I just love the styling and a vtwin is great for commuting
under inflated tires can also be an issue, if you don't see rubber bits under the rear then it's most likely an under inflated+hot day issue
I am not knocking your guys review of the bikes suspensions.
The question i have for you is more curiosity than anything else. With the suzuki tire being toast, what else was off?
To clarify that question is that you guys are basing these conclusions on "factory settings", but i just wanted to know if you went through all the bikes prior to the shootout to ensure that all settings were set to "from" factory settings. Not saying that you were biased or anything of that nature, just the over sight of the tire calls to attention what else happened to the bikes before you got them?
awesome CB1000R... You should try the ABS one..
just bought me one.. :)
Me too thomas
This should have been Tuono vs MT-10 vs S1000R vs Superduke vs Speed Triple R....none of the rest are in the same league. Sigh
It would be nice to see the mv agusta brutale rr added to this mix...the dragster rr even better...
Thank you for the great video! My favorite types of bikes are sports nakeds (middleweight, or liters), supermotos and sportbikes. It shouldn't come as a surprise I enjoyed this video a lot. Thank you for bringing the Honda, we rarely see that bike on comparisons. With that said, I still think you missed some of the bikes from this group: BMW S1000R, KTM Super Duke, MV Agusta Brutale 1090 RR and most surprisingly, you didn't bring the FZ-10 to the shootout. That's too bad. But nevertheless, awesome video! Thanks!
See my post above for why all the bikes you mentioned weren't included in this test.
3:29 Christian Bale changing tyre
I see three guys discussing six bikes they rode, yet the video shows six bikes being ridden at the same time. Who is riding the other three bikes in the video ? Why aren't we seeing them discuss the bikes.
No S1000R? Do you know the market at all?
No super duke or S1000R, which imo, is hands down the best bang for the buck and possibly the most versatile and best performing super naked.
Sorry Evans, for not paying attention to you in the intro.
nice test , rigth i ride suzy 650 , in the near future 'ill get next level 1000cc.
Aprilia is killing it. Guess that's why I love my 07 Factory so much. BTW, good video guys.
They're all great bikes....I'd still rather have a Honda 90 though... ;]
where's the FZ10 ???
i would like to see a shootout about the best naked bike on the road (not on track) between mt-10, superduke, tuono 1100, monster 1200, s1000r, speed triple, z1000.
BMW S1000R FOR THE WIN!
Could you guys do a starter bike shootout with the likes of BMW G310R, KTM Duke 390, KTM RC 390, and many more? I think it'd sure as hell get you the views.
FZ-10? FZ-09???? Surely you could find one to test?
Ducati, Aprilia Triumph... then Japanese.
But all bikes are awesome I do agree if you have no money go suzuki ..
This was probably recorded months ago but like all the other comments mentioned below, missing out the KTM Superduke, BMW S1000R, and the new Yamaha MT10 is a huge let down. Since they are, arguably, the top contenders amongst the 1000cc(-ish) nakeds.
The Aprilia Factory really does not belong in this comparison. It should be in the Hyper Naked comparison. All the other naked bikes hear are the base or mid range models while the Aprilia Factory is the equivalent of an R model or top of the line in the naked range. Of course the Aprilia ran away with the comparison. That said and having ridden all 3 of the top three bikes- The Base Tuono, the Speed Triple, and the Ducati Monster, I would still take the Aprilia because the V4 engine is in a league of its own. The handling is so close between the three it really comes down to preference on which bike feels most comfortable to you. For me, the base Aprilia would still be my pick.
Always funny how they draw you to watch the video, with a superduke on the video but is not even featured in the video
Why no EBR 1190SX? I thought you guys would be all over that bike!
Where was this video made.