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  • @AndyBirdBuilds
    @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety +16

    You totally should watch this next! czcams.com/video/AbZxOSvKYDs/video.html

    • @blueovalfan23
      @blueovalfan23 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      spindle on and off isn't hard. it's crap coding.. m03 turns it on and m05 turns it off. just edit the code before running. the m03 needs a speed number like "m03 s5000". m04 i think is counter clockwise if you ever need that. just put it somewhere like after raising from z from x0y0. just so it before the first negative z movement, you be fine. the m05 i always put in after it returns to x0y0. funny you mention it as a starting point. i got a 3018 as a starting point because i wanted to learn programing and get so hands on. they're not going to let me have a shot at work. a programmer in my area makes a significant amount more than i do. about the machine though it's 3 axis mill, tiny, weak and questionable quality but it'll run code. you gotta factor in feeds, speeds, chip load and the machine's ability (not much lol). i would argue it counts.

    • @ProfaneGod
      @ProfaneGod Pƙed rokem

      Cute how long until it grows up to be an adult cnc router lmao

    • @kevparker2201
      @kevparker2201 Pƙed rokem

      Sd
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    • @pdbsstudios7137
      @pdbsstudios7137 Pƙed rokem

      @Andy Bird Builds
      what if you want to make the cnc longer? is there any way to expand it?

    • @RedPillSurvival
      @RedPillSurvival Pƙed rokem

      One thing I can't understand with all of these China products is why the instructions are so bad. There must be 1 million native English speakers in China who will help you write your manual for the price of a beer. Why the Chinglish when one beer and some friendly conversation would make your product look 100% more professional?

  • @travishanson166
    @travishanson166 Pƙed rokem +23

    I'm used to running million dollar cnc machines. When I got out of manufacturing, I wanted to have some cnc machines in the garage, but back then, 14k was the bottom of the market. But now I will probably start at the new bottom and work my way up.

  • @4Fixerdave
    @4Fixerdave Pƙed 2 lety +48

    It's a great way to learn... costs about what a single textbook would cost when going to school. I'm actually on my second one now... both still work. But, I got so used to having the smaller (1610) that I didn't want to screw it up experimenting, so I bought a 3018 to break... which was actually cheaper than the first one. Side note for those who haven't noticed: 1610 is 16cm x 10cm work area, 3018 is 30cm x 18cm... roughly. Height is roughly 45mm.
    Biggest issue is the under-rated power supplies they come with. I popped the first one with my first mistake. Replaced it with an old laptop brick for a while, then a custom job. The second one didn't pop but was obviously crow-baring (shutting down the output to protect itself) under any kind of load. I could hear it stutter; thing couldn't even cut hardboard. So, I replaced that one with better as well. Cuts much better now. Oh, the 775 motors are cheap on eBay, but that '775' is just a size so be careful on the specs. And, they make 795 and now 799 with the same diameter but longer. They fit but will absolutely need a better power supply.
    Best use for these things, besides learning, is mounting a drag knife and cutting out vinyl decals. My kid loves it... custom stickers everywhere. Next is engraving Plexiglas for edge-illuminated nightlights. Styrofoam rocket nosecones. Some wood silliness. Did a couple isolation-routed PCBs, worked but... you know... JLCPCB is hard to compete with. Tried engraving stainless... nope. But, cutting out a decal and using that to guide q-tip electrolysis did a good job of cutting names in spoon handles :) There's always a way.
    So far I've only managed to mangle a little bit of aluminum, but I've not given up on that. With the right techniques, I think it can do something useful... still learning how.
    Oh, and thanks for the tip on coloured CA for filling an engraving. Never heard of that; nice results.

    • @Nirrrina
      @Nirrrina Pƙed rokem +1

      Sounds like it would be good for engraving Dollar Trees wooden craft pieces or possibly even their metal craft shapes.

    • @wvp07
      @wvp07 Pƙed rokem +2

      Not being one to read looooong comments, not mad I read yours. Lots of useful info! 👊

  • @djquick
    @djquick Pƙed rokem +122

    The plastic is not 3D printed. It’s injection molded. The lines you saw were from the mold pattern which likely was 3D printed.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem +11

      Good to know!

    • @maxroessink6004
      @maxroessink6004 Pƙed rokem +20

      The lines are from milling the mold

    • @24-Card
      @24-Card Pƙed rokem +4

      Nailed it!

    • @arbjful
      @arbjful Pƙed rokem +1

      Yes I was wondering, about that. Is it even possible to get such high quality 3D printed part


    • @joce0993
      @joce0993 Pƙed rokem +3

      Probably cnc bit lines from milling the Moldavie...

  • @johnrogers2826
    @johnrogers2826 Pƙed rokem +14

    It's actually pretty cool. And don't deny it, you loved every minute of putting it together.

  • @Freddie44utube
    @Freddie44utube Pƙed rokem +25

    I noticed in step one of the instructions you fitted the sliders back to front so the mounting holes were inboard instead of out board it’s why they ended up sticking out from the deck your remedy of moving them to an inner slot is ok but the deck would be more stable the correct way round fitted to the outer slot. Btw thanks for the great content

  • @RicoLen1
    @RicoLen1 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +2

    My dad was a machinist for 45 years both as his day job for a big company in the silicon valley area, and then he also had a sizable shop he ran out of our back yard too. I know delrin when I see it. I may not know much of anything about CNC milling, but I know aluminum, stainless, and delrin because almost everything in our house was fixed and replaced using those three materials. I'd bet you anything that black plastic is delrin.

  • @kiranshashiny
    @kiranshashiny Pƙed rokem

    Very exciting to see the construction from scratch and also hearing the motors whirr !!
    The motor is really quiet.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @morrismurray3621
    @morrismurray3621 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

    I got into CNC via this route, bought a cheap 3018, then moved on to a 400x400mm. This is perfect for me as retired. Can do real CNC but on a retirement budget and timescale.

  • @dy1an
    @dy1an Pƙed 2 lety +99

    I bought a cheap 3018 on a whim a few years back. It's pretty much a slightly bigger version of what you got. I've used it for carving names on coasters, a D&D logo, and a few messages-all in oak or sapele. They cope a lot better than expected, and given a few small upgrades, they can handle a lot more than you'd think.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety +6

      I agree!

    • @ChristophPech
      @ChristophPech Pƙed rokem +20

      I did so too. And after only a handful of upgrades it weights now 75kg, has a steel bed, wireless tool setter and touch probe, a 2kW spindle with ceramic bearings and HSK32 manual tool changer. It cuts aluminium like butter and mild steel just fine.
      I can really recommend the 3018 for beginners, with some minor upgrades it's really awesome.

    • @matthewlong4074
      @matthewlong4074 Pƙed rokem

      Could it cut 3mm brass??

    • @flashpointwhite
      @flashpointwhite Pƙed rokem +4

      You have a 3018 that weighs... 165 pounds? That's a beefy 3018

    • @jstarr3676
      @jstarr3676 Pƙed rokem

      Thinking about getting into this, mind if I ask what you paid for that? I'm trying to not break the bank getting a cnc

  • @michaelsallade6312
    @michaelsallade6312 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I am loving this channel! I recently purchased a 3018 and I enjoy it a lot. I agree there can be a lot to learn on these little starter machines, but the time can be worth it! I do not regret my purchase! Great video!

  • @MrJongo112
    @MrJongo112 Pƙed rokem +12

    As a general wanderer of the internet, I gotta say: this is the best, most wholesome, non toxic comment section I. Have. Ever. Seen.
    I think I’m going to stay in this part of the internet for a while. I’m super intrigued by CNC’s now.

  • @denisebergeron10
    @denisebergeron10 Pƙed 2 lety +7

    So cute! I giggled when you said it took you 2 hours. I have a Bobs CNC. KL744. It took me 5 days to build it. 😆😆 I am definitely impressed that the spindle power is controlled by the machine. I had the same thought you did. I wish mine was powered like that. Cool video. 👌👍

  • @LBCAndrew
    @LBCAndrew Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +2

    I saw a guy mount a dremel to a 3d printer a few years ago and i was kind of astonished how well it did some basic shallow cuts.

  • @JayBates
    @JayBates Pƙed 2 lety +11

    That was better than I expected.

  • @shyowl3453
    @shyowl3453 Pƙed rokem

    This is exactly why I got one, I built my own larger cnc but have no idea how to use software and this is much more accessible to mess around with to learn software with

  • @Nirrrina
    @Nirrrina Pƙed rokem

    This is why I like the Makers Space at the Tulsa Central Library. We have a cnc mill, laser engraved cutter, 3 3d printers, serger sewing machine, loom, vinyl cutter, Dremel, soldering iron for electronics & even more. They even have a small recording studio available. Plus upstairs is a comprehensive computer lab to do anything you in luding transferring vhs to dvd.
    I actually haven't been there in awhile. I just like watching maker videos on CZcams & bragging about our library in the hope other libraries will get it. Plus it lets people know they can find maker spaces that are either free like our library or don't cost that much compared to buying things.

  • @reaper060670
    @reaper060670 Pƙed rokem +1

    Bro I just found ur channel. I've been talking about building my own CNC but I'm in the market for a small one so I can learn all about the stuff u just mentioned with X/Y/Z AXIS, the Software, etc.. I have a plan in mind within the next 2 years to go into business for myself with my own home built CNC but I know I will have to buy the parts that I cannot build like the Hardware/computer hook ups and all that good stuff but I know I can eventually build one about 6' X 4' in size one day. That's the plan anyways.. I might even go to 8' X 4' ..
    I'm working out of a 16X10 garage atm and it's cool and all even though I'm only in the process of kitting the place out atm.
    This has given me food for thought tho so thanks my bro. I appreciate videos like this which help ppl like me to make more informed choices.
    If there's anybody out there with a channel as well that makes these types of videos please get in touch bcos I need to learn as much as I can now.. Thanks again bro..

  • @anthonymarconi389
    @anthonymarconi389 Pƙed rokem +22

    As a good first upgrade on mine (Close enough on make/model) was to separate the power for the spindle from the board. The board it comes with is limited in the amount of amps it can spit out. Even a cheap laptop power supply sized accordingly can assist in getting a lot more out of that spindle. That and a could small updates, I was able to cut some shapes from thin copper sheets. Slowly engrave some aluminum, and dig into harder woods much faster.

    • @KinbynTrapstar
      @KinbynTrapstar Pƙed rokem +1

      what voltage and amperage did u run it on?

  • @istayhighi1540
    @istayhighi1540 Pƙed rokem +5

    I got this exact one 3 days ago and so far I actually love it haha. I bought some endstops for it since it had the plugs for it also the x probe. Since it’s all extrusion and rods I’ll be upgrading the size in a week or so. Last night I did a fairly detailed Ferrari into acrylic. Took 2 hours but turned out well and no problems for the whole 2 hour engraving. I paid 190 cad for it and very happy with it. My boss asked me to learn cnc since I already do 3d printing and laser engraving so of course I went on Amazon and got a cheap cnc to learn. I don’t regret it one bit.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem

      Cool!

    • @camerondavid8089
      @camerondavid8089 Pƙed rokem

      How do you prepare files for it? I found the instruction manual pretty daunting as a noobie. Thanks!

  • @cdsmock4512
    @cdsmock4512 Pƙed rokem +8

    Honestly a pretty amazing little unit for the price. Perfect for kids or adults wanting to learn and work on small stuff for fun.

    • @Jesus-es5su
      @Jesus-es5su Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      Exactly my thoughts. Think of purchasing for both my kids too

  • @mkkd85
    @mkkd85 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Yes, that is bakelite. It's basically the first type of plastic that was invented. Very good and strong.
    I have a 3018 and using the stock spindle I did a bunch of things. Cutting 6 mm plywood at 800 mm/s, no problem. Cutting toy train tracks out of 12 mm thick laminate flooring, no problem (1000 mm/s using 0.4 mm depth per pass).
    Now I upgraded its X axis by replacing the round linear guides with proper MGN 12 linear rails. Then I replaced the 3d printed Z axis with rigid aluminium one (80 mm Z travel) and replaced the stock spindle with the 500W spindle. Now it's a much more rigid and serious machine.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety

      Good to know, thanks!

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 Pƙed rokem +1

      Bakelite... not well known these days, and probably underrated. I have a 70 year old lathe with Bakelite idler gears; they are still in great shape, and are kind to the steel gears they mesh with.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem

      @@PiefacePete46 Thanks for sharing!

    • @jothain
      @jothain Pƙed rokem +3

      Not likely bakelite. I think that's delrin or something in that vein.

    • @blu_smoke7638
      @blu_smoke7638 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@jothain Delrin was my first guess as well

  • @danahopkins4090
    @danahopkins4090 Pƙed rokem +2

    Cool machine! If I was to guess, the black plastic side parts are Delrin. Delrin is a very rigid plastic, very dimensionally stable and dense.

  • @sethmcneill5283
    @sethmcneill5283 Pƙed rokem +8

    The hold up on the spindle turning on or off on your own is generally included in the G code. You can write it in yourself, but the code can vary depending on What machine you are using

    • @CraftAero
      @CraftAero Pƙed rokem

      Yeah, most POSTs will include it in the Gcode for you but for the sake of two lines of code you too can "automatically" turn the spindle on and off. Usually:
      M00 - spindle off
      M01 - spindle on (CW)
      M02 - spindle on (CCW)

    • @motherjesse
      @motherjesse Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

      Not sure about this model, but on CNC lasers, M00 or M01 is a stop code. M02 is end of program. M03 and M04 would be spindle CW/CCW in fanuc CNC anyway.

  • @Nirrrina
    @Nirrrina Pƙed rokem +1

    I just learned about mini miter saws & other power equipment in mini form for crafting. I saw them at under a $100. I'd love to see someone check them out.
    I don't want to waste money on a crappy thing but I'd definitely have more room in my apartment for those instead of the big ones.

  • @makethepart
    @makethepart Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Cheers to the firsts in the world included in this video! This was a neat overview of something I would be scared to buy, like a new pair of shoes that come with laces made of floss. Thanks for sharing.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety

      I think I identified the lowest entry point into cnc with this one.

  • @dennisdownes9319
    @dennisdownes9319 Pƙed rokem

    This is a great video; great concept and curiosity! Well done!! DD

  • @petermuller608
    @petermuller608 Pƙed rokem

    Dude your wood skills are amazing. I would not have though of this trick to get out the grooves

  • @wvp07
    @wvp07 Pƙed rokem

    First time viewer, GREAT video. If you’re just looking to add simple accents to your project, this appears to fill the need. Thank you for taking the time! 👍👊

  • @The_Fat_Turtle
    @The_Fat_Turtle Pƙed rokem

    These actually work, I might grab one for routing out guitar fretboard inlays. Doesn't need to be super precise or high quality to router out some Gibson or Fender style inlays.

  • @chrisliddiard725
    @chrisliddiard725 Pƙed rokem +3

    I wondered how one of these would perform and now i know. Also there are cheap kits to extend the X axis, which means you can upgrade that machine to the equvalent 3040 machine spec for a few extra bucks.

  • @prodius613
    @prodius613 Pƙed rokem +2

    i have had a 1610 for a few years now. i have used it to cut 7mm bamboo and 4mm acrylic. It is a very capable little machine. As long as its wood that your working with.

  • @grene1955
    @grene1955 Pƙed rokem

    Excellent video! First time watching your channel, and I'm impressed!

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite Pƙed rokem

    I love the fact you are using the Hagerty engine tear down and assembly time-lapse music.

  • @mathewward5380
    @mathewward5380 Pƙed rokem +9

    Reminds me of my $150 3D printer I bought a few years ago. In the end a great way to learn CNC and modeling for next to no outlay of hard cash. If you learn the code and make slow, cheap upgrades using the machine to rebuild itself, it is better than a book to get into the game. Plus it is the coolest thing in the world to see it move for thew first time!

  • @Karpe_Deem
    @Karpe_Deem Pƙed rokem +1

    I got this with 2 flute endmill, it's actually pretty good. I made brackets with this.

  • @mrstephentgarrett
    @mrstephentgarrett Pƙed rokem

    I see this being useful for someone that makes dioramas or model train builders or something very small scale.

  • @ifiwooddesigns
    @ifiwooddesigns Pƙed 2 lety +11

    Great video and glad you took the first dive. I’d think I’d rather get a laser for engraving, but definitely will now buy this to get into CNC. Better $120 than $6000 on something that scares me to spend as an ornament in my shop.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      You make a valid point about engraving with a laser. I don't think you can go wrong with starting with this machine for this price.

  • @BreydonsRC
    @BreydonsRC Pƙed rokem +13

    The G code should have an M03 in it to turn the spindle on (CW direction), and an M05 to turn it off. M04 is CCW direction. If other desktop CNC's don't turn the spindle on and off, you just need to add these commands to the post processor, or enter them into your G code manually.

    • @BreydonsRC
      @BreydonsRC Pƙed rokem +1

      @Not Expat Joe correct. You can set the S value to whatever you want to run the spindle at.

    • @veoa416
      @veoa416 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      ​@@notexpatjoedepends, a lot of cnc's remember their last put-in spindle speed. For example, if I were to put S5000 in MDI without an M03 or M04, run a program without an S-code in it but with M03/M04 and it'll run S5000 from memory.

  • @andrewcourt5156
    @andrewcourt5156 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    An important word to the wise.. with reference to the “plastic” material the frame etc is made of
 under not circumstance use loctite type thread sealer on any of the hardware that come in contact with this plastic
 it reacts with the plastic and causes it to become brittle and crack!!

  • @Skiper2k16
    @Skiper2k16 Pƙed rokem +6

    I also have a 3018, but in a pro version. It works very well with small details.

    • @sparkey1021
      @sparkey1021 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      What Softwear are you using for 3018

  • @projectwood7221
    @projectwood7221 Pƙed rokem

    Awesome build my friend.. continued success to your channel

  • @JustEnufCustoms
    @JustEnufCustoms Pƙed rokem +1

    This was cool always seen cnc's operate but had no clue what goes in to the mechanics of it. This would definitely a great way to start your learning process in cnc in my opinion. Cool vlog. ✌

  • @spudnickuk
    @spudnickuk Pƙed rokem

    Another good insight on a cheap CNC for a learner and would say if anyone feels like having a go then start small and see if you can work it all out , without paying the earth and find out you dont like the idea.
    as for the software to turn on and off the spindle.
    The spindles on smaller machines use from 12v to 24v and are connected directly to the controller board specially GRBL, and this is why a lot of people like them.
    Also VFD systems are controlled via the controller right out of the box,
    Basically most wood cutting cnc machines use what ever router the person feels like using, and so they are not directly connected to the main controller but connected strait to the mains and have the speed control built in for portable hand held use as that's what they ere designed for.
    Also a factor of voltage and the frequency set by the router. and this is another problem that people get with there electronics (RF) interference
    a lot of people do upgrade their controller and use like a switching relay to turn the router on and off
    Anyway there are quite a few reasons why routers are used instead of spindles and this topic can go on for ages.
    Like me lol..

  • @JNeff99
    @JNeff99 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    You make such a great point. If you or your kid wants to try CNC I can't see going wrong with this set up. If there is success then risk of spending $2500 on 1infinity is very small. Awesome vid idea. Thanks for making it.

  • @woodywood1951
    @woodywood1951 Pƙed rokem

    I have one (2020) for more than 9 years.
    I paid $1300 at Walmart.
    I don't use it every day, but I use it a lot.
    First think to add: limit switches, if you don't want to damage your coupling.
    last year, I installed a laser: it works great on this CNC...

  • @garrettguitar
    @garrettguitar Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    Gotta love Starbond! 😀 Very cool that this little machine did as well as it did.

  • @ClintonCaraway-CNC
    @ClintonCaraway-CNC Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Desktop CNCs can pretty much all turn themselves on and off. The commands are in the gcode you just need some sort of relay. The Bitrunner from C3D is one example. It is nothing more than a relay which take the pwm 0-5v signal and turns on and off a 110v circuit.
    A VFD for a spindle takes it to the next level by not only turning on and off your spindle but using the 0-5v (0-10v in some cases) signal to set your desired rpm.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Wow, thanks for explaining this so well!

    • @nitacawo
      @nitacawo Pƙed rokem +1

      yeah but if they will explain how to connect relay who is going to buy their crappy overpriced modules ? Connected relay to mine and would not run one without it, safety and convenience. Also z-offset is a glorified ground wire loop for 70 bucks. Limit switches are also a must and cost cents but are not included somehow... All in all when I started my cnc path which happened after 3d printers I was astonished how ludicrously undeveloped hobby cnc market is compared to 3d printers.

  • @emertonom
    @emertonom Pƙed rokem +70

    It's very cool that it works at all. Could you test using it to make a PCB? That seems like a potentially useful scenario for a machine with otherwise pretty limited utility.

    • @rewolff2
      @rewolff2 Pƙed rokem

      You need very accurate Z workpiece probing to get that to work. Not an easy upgrade as far as I know.

    • @ironnoriboi
      @ironnoriboi Pƙed rokem +3

      @@rewolff2 The machine has it build in, you just need to connect a pin to the spindle and to the copper cladboard.

    • @ironnoriboi
      @ironnoriboi Pƙed rokem +3

      For PCBs, its hard to get small details withour breaking your bits. I'd recommend getting a similar machine with a small 5w laser. You can then use the laser to create an etching mask out of black spraypaint. There are videos about this online.

    • @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
      @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Pƙed rokem

      Milling a pcb. Lol

    • @No1sonuk
      @No1sonuk Pƙed rokem

      @@ironnoriboi I use a 3040 with exactly the same bits as the ones shown here for milling PCBs. Never had any trouble.

  • @rjw7058
    @rjw7058 Pƙed rokem

    very good observation, if u find a niche to market to, no matter the interest, and personalize it to the customers wants, keep intouch

  • @dgb5820
    @dgb5820 Pƙed rokem

    Great video to prove it works, well done

  • @EverymanBuilds
    @EverymanBuilds Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Good video!
    I started with a 3018 Pro and it made me sceptical about upgrading to a bigger machine because I wasn't sure what the difference would be in terms of feeds and speeds. The difference is night and day. My Workbee is about 50x faster at engraving and cutting, and makes me considerably less nervous.
    If you enjoy CNC after trying out a 1016 / 3018 / 4030, and you can either afford it or can make a business of it, you'll love a bigger machine and Andy's channel has information up the wazoo to help you out.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety

      Thanks so much for your comment! These CNCs are a great starting point

    • @scottb1002
      @scottb1002 Pƙed rokem

      @@AndyBirdBuilds is it worth it to learn on or jump to a better machine? Already have experience with lasers, 3d printers and vinyl cutters and looking to get into CNC for wood engraving. These prices at $130 are tempting and seem hard to beat.

  • @matthewloeffler5846
    @matthewloeffler5846 Pƙed rokem

    Very well done video on your part.

  • @mikepetitt9624
    @mikepetitt9624 Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks this was very interesting

  • @seanburke997
    @seanburke997 Pƙed rokem +4

    Pretty cool! I've been thinking about adding a cheap CNC to my kit. Do you think this could do serial numbers in aluminum lower receivers?

  • @RtotheK605
    @RtotheK605 Pƙed rokem +1

    5:20 Those "T-nuts" should be designed to rotate 90 degrees when tightening. This should allow you to insert them into the groove instead of sliding them in from the end.

  • @BIGJIM947
    @BIGJIM947 Pƙed rokem +1

    M03 Spindle start--forward, of clockwise rotation
    M04 Spindle start--reverse, or counterclockwise rotation
    M05 Spindle stop

  • @JohnColgan.
    @JohnColgan. Pƙed rokem

    I build the 3018 version of this couple of years ago, got to pay attention to every detail in the diagrams . Remarkably good machine, lots of people complain about poor rigidity, but don't press it too hard, flexing isn't an issue.
    Old adage, written instructions for women to follow, pictures for men !!

  • @mattivirta
    @mattivirta Pƙed rokem

    little tip, if you add top of wood adhesive plastiv vinyl, before carving, then carve, and then use spray paint carved holes, and thn dry,then take off vinyl tape, etc, and have good painted all carved but noy have at woof lot paint and little sanding need only.

  • @jstagzsr
    @jstagzsr Pƙed rokem

    i have a 3018 router/diode laser. Ive owned it for like 3 years and have never used the router part. lol. It was too loud to use in my apartment building. i only ever laserd with it. but i work at a machine shop where we have hundreds of 3,4,5 axis everything cnc. mills, routers, lasers, etc. material scraps are free and using a machine thats not in the middle of a job is free. so i kinda bought the 3018 for no reason. But its fun to see what people do with them.

  • @HaddaClu
    @HaddaClu Pƙed rokem +1

    Honestly the sketchiest part of that product is the USB that came with it. General rule of thumb for IT is don't plug in drives that you can't guarantee origin and what's on it.

  • @spambox7397
    @spambox7397 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Super cool , great video

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes Pƙed rokem

    I love building anything in kit form but I already built a MPCNC! that material is POM

  • @petra3049
    @petra3049 Pƙed rokem

    Hi Andy- thank you for doing this video. You said that this is a great way to learn the CNC as it is reasonable in price. I really want to learn it but who really can walk you through how to use it. Like a great tutorial for someone who has never used one before. Everybody is so fast in their speaking and instructions and this throws you off. Makes it seem so complicated. How to learn but step by step. Thank you for your help. 💖

    • @petra3049
      @petra3049 Pƙed rokem

      Also do you prefer this style vs a laser style?

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem

      Hi Petra! Thank you for your comment and I understand what you mean. You may find this helpful docs.carbide3d.com/tutorials/

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem

      czcams.com/video/VMsCnNz6X58/video.html

    • @petra3049
      @petra3049 Pƙed rokem

      Thank you Andy so much. So now what about a great tutorial on the laser style. 💖💖

  • @geirkselim2697
    @geirkselim2697 Pƙed rokem +1

    If you do more of these tests paint the scrap pieces a solid color so you see better contrast

  • @bukunmioyedapo45
    @bukunmioyedapo45 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    They're just as strong as a regular cnc made with these type of material. It was my first CNC and I made a bigger CNC off it. It sits gathering dust in my workshop already.

  • @dennislintz1
    @dennislintz1 Pƙed rokem +1

    This is the 1st video I have watched for CNC due to it being so expensive. (Sorry Jay Bates love everything else you do). I have NO CLUE how to do designs or get designs from the internet to do a carving. Is there anyone who teaches this on You Tube? Do you prefer CNC over Lasers?

  • @eitantal726
    @eitantal726 Pƙed rokem +1

    Just bought this CNC. It's awesome!

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed rokem

      Cool!

    • @eitantal726
      @eitantal726 Pƙed rokem

      ​@@AndyBirdBuilds Best way to start is start small. Literally, in this case.

  • @rjw7058
    @rjw7058 Pƙed rokem

    yo, this what it's all about, sharing knowledge so any organism on earth can benefit, and most importantly, keep on improving the genome code>

  • @rewolff2
    @rewolff2 Pƙed rokem

    I bought a slightly larger version, It's idle too much, but it does what I want. I've actually cut a few things with it. Low feedrate, low step size and I can actually MAKE stuff.

  • @beneichinger9566
    @beneichinger9566 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +1

    the black plastic is delrin, the gray is injected and the lines on it are ripples from pushing it out too fast/soon from the mold.

  • @AudioParadyne
    @AudioParadyne Pƙed rokem +2

    Interesting little machine! I like it! Btw, that black plastic looks like POM-C, also known as Delrin. Pretty expensive material, actually. Durable, yet easy to work with and machine.

    • @ethanhunt9400
      @ethanhunt9400 Pƙed rokem

      Is that related to UHMW? Don’t know my plastics but have used Ultra-high-molecular-weight plastic.

  • @petermuller608
    @petermuller608 Pƙed rokem

    A couple of years ago I bought an 3040 on GearBest. Surprisingly what you can get for this little money.
    Great for doing little crafts :)

  • @909fishing3
    @909fishing3 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    1610 is actually just the bed size. I have the 3018 router/laser, and upgraded the bed to the 3040. You can cut with these with the 775 DC motor it comes with. If you have time on your hands, and bought actual 3.175 shaft cutting bits. The engraving bits cut, but leave a lot of sanding. These open cncs are like 3d printers counter parts, easily upgradeable, and can be redesign. There's a lot of con, but the pros were good enough for my original needs. This isn't a go out and buy one comment, this is a do your research first comment, like I said there are a lot of cons, but like CZcams has plenty of content around these little cncs, for people who use fusion 360 like me it's you can use it with it. Great video. 👍

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing! It does seem like you could upgrade it pretty easily.

    • @909fishing3
      @909fishing3 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@AndyBirdBuilds yeah, open source machinery is way to easy to upgrade, and gets a little pricey after a while.

  • @madox76
    @madox76 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    LOL my brother just bought me this for Xmas too neat.

  • @MotownBatman
    @MotownBatman Pƙed rokem

    Excellent Video, I was eveyballin this, but definitely not up to the small project I was looking for.

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Well done!

  • @icecreamtruckog3667
    @icecreamtruckog3667 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    To turn the spindle on and off is in the G-code. And I recomend you update the GRBL software asap, the older versions tend to stop working at random.

  • @jamesbrightly9804
    @jamesbrightly9804 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    I like your attitude. Thumbs up

  • @samanthafuentes4913
    @samanthafuentes4913 Pƙed rokem +1

    You commented about not knowing how long it would last.... can you give us updates periodically to let us know how much usage you are putting on it and how it's holding up? Thanks. Great video btw

  • @jshirk8
    @jshirk8 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    You can get onefinity to do router on/off with a relay and breakout board, or convert to 65 or 80mm spindle and use speed and on/off control using that same breakout board.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety

      Now that you say that, there is a add on for the Shapeoko that will do this as well. I guess this because they use a router that already has a switch?

    • @TheAnonymousNobody1982
      @TheAnonymousNobody1982 Pƙed 2 lety

      I took the brain dead way out and just used a wifi electric plug for the router. Set timer and forget it.

  • @reneberthold334
    @reneberthold334 Pƙed rokem +1

    Could you set the dimensions of the build plate in the software? If yes you can use the parts to build your own larger version by using the motherboard and steppermotors.

  • @angelcordova7588
    @angelcordova7588 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Genial para aprender
    Gracias por presentarlo en video

  • @eyeperture
    @eyeperture Pƙed rokem

    I saw Cubiio CNC machine, portable and what it can do amazes me.

  • @andrebyman8744
    @andrebyman8744 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I bet you could safely bump up the federate of the engraving to make it a lot faster, especially when just doing a shallow engraving.

  • @yuxuanhuang3523
    @yuxuanhuang3523 Pƙed rokem +2

    120 bucks is not really cheap in China (about a thousand yuan, which is not something I as a student would buy with my pocket money without thinking), but at least this one works. I saw ones around 80 bucks on Aliexpress that had comments saying the power supply blew up because it wasn't up to the motor's power. I could see this being used in school labs for students to learn and make small projects with.

  • @darkshadowsx5949
    @darkshadowsx5949 Pƙed rokem

    try a small end mill in it like a 1-3mm. im sure you can carve something in wood with the right settings.

  • @jonray305
    @jonray305 Pƙed rokem +2

    PCB’s. This would be perfect for guitar pedal prototypes

  • @Eric_Smith2662
    @Eric_Smith2662 Pƙed rokem

    This was pretty interesting. Do you have any recommendations for a relatively affordable cnc that you can cut things on?

  • @direwolf4849
    @direwolf4849 Pƙed rokem

    Don’t know what those other CNC machines you mentioned are but to auto turn off the spindle at the end of program you must input an “M” code (normally M5 to do this) and of course the controller must have the necessary inputs/outputs to perform this “M” code and other various Machine functions

 an industrial CNC technician

    • @No1sonuk
      @No1sonuk Pƙed rokem

      I assume the issue with the other machines mentioned is the lack of hardware interface to respond to the codes.

  • @joce0993
    @joce0993 Pƙed rokem +2

    Good video!
    The 3018 is the smallest you really wanna go, even then, the work surface is really small. Got my 3018 upgraded to a 3040 with a 20k rpm spindle and it is a lot better.

  • @TheAusherGuy
    @TheAusherGuy Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    If the CNC router uses a DeWalt/Makita/ect router for the spindle it needs an iot relay and you can turn it on and off with a m code if the controller has like a available port for spindle on/off . Then you can use m3 m5 to turn it on and off.

  • @norwegiangadgetman
    @norwegiangadgetman Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The ShapeOKO CAN switch the spindle on and off. Assuming you use the correct controller board.

    • @AndyBirdBuilds
      @AndyBirdBuilds  Pƙed 2 lety

      This is point. Why doesn't it come this way. There's got to be a good reason

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted2714 Pƙed rokem

    this thing will rock for making designed cutting boards - pls give us some power figures - it would be nice to have it on auto controller so you could issue batch order of 10 - it could do cutouts of mdf for fractal antenna arrays - just add your metamaterial or liquid copper - you could build big molds and kits for a slope racer cut out of carbon fiber - or whatever

    • @shephusted2714
      @shephusted2714 Pƙed rokem

      it needs a big table hack but other than that - maybe upgrade the motor #hatori

  • @ezstrider
    @ezstrider Pƙed rokem +1

    Love the build music

  • @BrlU
    @BrlU Pƙed rokem

    i built the MPCNC as my first cnc to understand the working etc. but for someon with two left hands a 130$ cnc is worth buying and learning on it..

  • @scottwissler3765
    @scottwissler3765 Pƙed rokem

    I bought one of these. Put it together. But
    Never used it. Thanks now I know to hook it to my laptop and try it out. How do you get it to carve a deeper line? Is it just a setting in software? What is the best software to use with this cnc or any cnc machine?

  • @DS-ip4ns
    @DS-ip4ns Pƙed rokem

    I know it’s annoying but the free version fusion 360 has tweaks that need made in the gcode before I run an operation. M3 and M5 are your spindle on/off commands so after the Z moves up to to traverse to the starting point, M3 turns it on. And after the whole operation is complete, Z moves up and the M5, then I have to manually enter G0 X0 Y0 for my xcarve to go back to the x/y zeros. Idk if that’ll help with your shapeko

  • @10DOINKERS
    @10DOINKERS Pƙed rokem

    I believe that black material you were wondering about is bakelite.

  • @babbagebrassworks4278
    @babbagebrassworks4278 Pƙed rokem

    Haha, the 1610 instructions are for the 3018. The smaller size might make it more rigid than the 3018? Adding linear rails and metal Z axis and higher speed motor for Brass engraving?