Is a Thermomix TM6 worth the money? | How To Cook That Ann Reardon
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- Thermomix TM6 review is it worth the money? What can it do?
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Neither really justify the high price tag I feel, but the TOKIT is definitely better value for money. The massive difference in expected and actual temperature on the Thermomix is crazy
I sent it back to thermomix and after testing they have replaced the pcb board, so it must have been faulty (despite only being 3 weeks old). It is being posted back to me - so I don't have it back to re-test as yet.
@@HowToCookThat Please update us when you do! That is of course a major concern, and sometimes we get faulty items (manufacturing isn't perfect) so long as the company makes it right I think its fine!
@@markbollinger1343 I wish there were some really well known, trustworthy consumer watchdogs for things like this. I worry that a lot of companies, luxury item or otherwise, rely on faster, cheaper, worse manufacturing methods and higher instances of dysfunctional/non-functional items because they know consumers are too exhausted and too used to this way of doing things to hold them to account for their resource destruction. I swear there's someone in most companies that calculates the percentage of customers that can be relied upon not to follow through on repairs and replacements because they're so disillusioned about consumer rights, they take being screwed over for granted.
One of the many stupid downsides of our ruthlessly capitalist system - less useful converted resources for more hoardable wealth. Surely building a food gadget or games console that doesn't function safely and effectively out of the metals and plastics mined and produced from our finite supplies should be illegal, at least over a certain rate of instance. You'd bloody think, anyway. It should be codified into law.
My thoughts exactly. The cheaper one is actually better and seems more user friendly.
We have small kitchens in my country, so the all-in-one aspect is very appealing to avoid having so many different devices to drag in and out of the cupboards. It would be really bad though if you for instance wanted to boil eggs or mix dough while slow cooking something. I'd be very tempted to get a Tokit if I could afford one.
I totally understand why people buy them, but for that price, I don't think I will. I'll stick to the good old fashioned way of cooking... manually. Glad to have you back with us Ann and you are feeling better.
Thanks Brent
@@HowToCookThat hello Ann I love ur videos I watch them almost every week mostly the one where u fixed the frog cake fail
Of course I watch others but that’s my favourite:)
I still don't understand why people buy them 😅 I would like to see more things made with them?
@@MsWnDrLnD
Personally this looks like a great way to get around my executive functioning issues (I struggle to make myself start/stop tasks with several steps - not uncommon for neurodivergent people like myself) so that I can actually cook more, maybe have a somewhat healthier diet. I've spent about as much on other stuff around my house just for my own nerdy interests, this one has an actual practical use so I don't have to find an excuse to save for it :P
I can think of some other reasons, though they don't apply to me personally: for instance physical accessibility reasons (for example those with poor grip or hand mobility may find it useful), or people with enough money to justify the hands on time it would save in cooking or preparing food, or people who need both the time saved and consistent results (I can imagine people who make and sell little deserts and things might be able to justify the cost).
I sympathise about reverting to manual cooking, I know I favour stovetop and oven cooking over even the microwave and pressure cooker (an option for rice cooking thatvI could use for more).
It was fascinating seeing how these two appliances worked. My biggest shock was having to pay for a membership for Thermomix's recipes which seem like an integral part of the appliance- the initial high cost should have covered that.
Probably the same situation as expensive hotels not having free wi-fi or included breakfast. If you're already willing to pay for something expensive, you're also willing to pay for the stuff that usually comes for free
@@Tonstie Expensive hotels get away without wifi or breakfast because their primary business is in conventions. The people staying at those conventions then HAVE to use their hotel. So they don't really have competition, at least not competition that those conveniences would sway.
Feels like the Foodie version of Peloton
Iirc, Thermomix is an MLM company, and they are FAMOUS for trying to milk every cent out of both distributors and customers alike
Yes, it is a shame...
But first 7 months are free and you can make the most of them and save hundreds of recipes on the machine which you can use without subscription or wi-fi.
This channel should be called "How to cook and thoroughly explain how I did that" because Ann is just so amazing and well-researched. You can tell she knows what she's talking about and does it in such a professional yet approachable way. Such an incredible channel. Keep going Ann - you're a million times better than those content farms will ever be!
Debunking, Cooking, Thoroughly explain how I made that cake
Omg not two of my favs!!
I can definitely see their commercial applications, there is a certain appeal to it as someone who has trouble working up the energy to cook, but honestly I think a regular pressure cooker/slow cooker or something like an instant pot is probably better for most home cooks. What I think would also be interesting is a version of this that has been scaled down in price and size that would make it easier to cook for portion sizes for 1-2 people.
Tefal has the cook for me, which is much cheaper, less functionality, but has pre programmed step by step recipes. It's more like an instant pot, but it's great for novice home cooks
My mum has a thermomix (one of the earlier, cheaper versions) and she uses it daily. It's great for chopping veggies. I personally find it's quite annoying to handwash each time though.
Couldn’t agree more I have a good set of knives, a grater, a mini oven with functions, an induction hob, a blender stick and blender container with functions a hand mixer and that’s my kitchen basically; none of these items cumulatively cost what either of those machines do. How do they give the joy of cooking? The pleasure of making? No thanks just give them to chefs, they will no doubt from find them useful.
Most of the cost is due to the software and inner mechanics of the machine, I doubt a scaled-down version would be any cheaper, if anything, it would probably be more expensive!
It feels as though "look how many things you can use it for!" doesn't quite work as a selling point, because it's not like you can use multiple functionalities simultaneously. If you want to make a stew with some steamed veg and rice followed by a frozen dessert then you can only use the machine for one of those things - so it doesn't matter that it can do all four jobs perfectly. I think if I owned something like that it would be used at most once a day, for one specific function - in which case buying a dedicated machine for that function would make more sense.
I would rather have a machine that doesn’t tell you what temp it’s at rather than one that tells you the wrong temp. That’s quite dangerous, especially with eggs
As I was scrolling down the comments while watching the video, you and Ann both said that at the exact same time. Interestingly this happens to me ALL the time and in different forms.🌸⭐️❤️
I'm wondering if it's just telling you the heat of the element, not the contents? That might explain why the water temp is accurate- not sure.
@@OrWhatWeHave For the Sous Vide bit, I think it had been on for a longer time than it had been for the cremeiux. A temp for the element would be pretty useless as it likely wouldn't take into consideration thermal loss or thermal runaway. Sous vide takes longer and because the food is vac sealed, you get a bigger margin for error for temp.
my guess is either a fault in the element or a fault in the computer board for engaging power at higher temperatures, you see similar things in 3D printers sometimes when they are having thermal runaway issues
The temperature shown on the outside of the thermomix refers to the temperature of the bowl, not the mixture, (Stupid, I know xD) but Thermomix recipes adjust to that
@@cauliiflower3041 omg your pfp is adorable dnfaisndfisdjfhil
UPDATE: You can not rely on the thermomix temperature readings please ensure that you use a digital thermometer to check temperatures for food safety.
I had given them the benefit of the doubt in thinking that perhaps the brand new one was faulty. But apparently not. I sent the thermomix in to their service centre and they replaced the PCB board. On testing it again when I got it back it had the exact same problems with wildly incorrect temperatures. I sent it back to the service centre a second time with photos of the error and below is the response:
"Heating tests conducted on Thermomix and is working within manufacturers parameters. ***Bowl temperature and food temperature may differ when start up cooking and requires time to stabilize temperature. eg: 1 litre of water takes 10 minutes with speed 1 to reach 100°C*** We compared our service TM6 with yours side by side and the outcome was the same."
"working within manufacturers parameters" yikes
hmm so what they're saying is the temperature is the bowl getting up to temp rather than the food inside. i guess that sort of makes sense as an oven tells you what temp its at before what's inside is up to temp but a bit misleading and confusing in this case.
czcams.com/video/X6XZQVA6Gsg/video.html they dont seem to be a good company in general
Thanks for the update and noting this. I have not seen any other video that talks about this. I bought the TOKIT because the price was within (not really) the range I would pay, knowing that the Thermomix was more than twice as much in Canada (w/ promotional discount on the TOKIT) and while I loved many things about it when I received it, I was disappointed to find out that it doesn't show the current temp. I figured that TOKIT could have designed it to since it already senses the temp to hold the food at a constant temp in cooking. Also, it was extra annoying knowing the Thermomix that it is modeled on already did it. But thanks to your wonderful video, I now know about the inaccuracy of the Thermomix temp readings and I feel so much better about my TOKIT and agree that it makes sense to not include it if it can't be accurate. (Other TOKIT features I appreciate - faster lid-locking/unlocking - they didn't have legal issues like TM, no subscription - freely available recipes, and while they don't have as many recipes, they will continue to add to their cloud, more Asian recipes appeal to me, and lots of 3rd party recipes and videos floating around for TM that transfer to TOKIT as you also pointed out, the wider base for better heating for stirfry/sauté. Basically, these were my concerns with TM before TOKIT even came out, and TOKIT covered them all. Higher RPM is a bonus. Would have liked the ability to not turn the blade and I wound up buying the slow cook plug). I didn't even think of the finger pinch hazard of the TM before. And so pleased about double the steamer set capacity too in TOKIT!
In order to get the current temperature of the food inside the bowl, they'd need to somehow have a thermocouple in there in contact with the mixture. They're relying on the reading from the heating element's sensor. I think the only way you'll get accurate readings is to have a probe you can insert (like you did) directly into the bowl. Probably why the TOKIT didn't try to give you a reading.
$930 USD for the Tokit is less than I would pay for a new gaming computer with brand new parts, and it would allow me to cook homemade meals as a disabled person with severe muscle weakness. Not even to mention the complex recipes that I'd struggle to make on my own even with the right tools. Thank you so much for bringing these gadgets to my attention, Ann! And for doing such extensive testing on them to help shine light on their differences.
Aww that's sweet
It's surprising with those kind of prices that the machines don't already come with all of the attachments.
Once you pass high-end consumer goods and hit professional-grade equipment, charging for accessories is very common. Linus discusses that in his video: "Linus Defends Apple's $1,000 Monitor Stand."
its because they are made by MLM schemes.
I agree, but maybe it's to prevent unwanted attachments that people would throw away because they never use them.
@@xxgn i think it's quite a bit different in the culinary world lol.
Thermomix comes with butterfly whisk, simmering basket, steam basket and a spatula that is used to take the simmering basket out of the jug.
Both of these seem to have fundamental flaws I wouldn’t expect from a machine in this price range. Custom recipes not having access to the whole range of times and temperatures the machine is capable of is just bizarre.
This is probably done by design - Vorwerk wants you to buy the subscription to their pre-made recipes. $55 US a year. Certain functions are entirely useless without the paid recipes, too. I already paid $2300 for it, why would I want to pay more to access the whole machine? Very shady.
I know right? I'd get so mad having paid that much money only to find out I cannot use the advertised temperature range 🤨
It’s called capitalism.
@@anniestumpy9918 It's an MLM
@@yourmom2189 Nope it's a MLM
Thanks Ann for this video! I've been using the previous model thermomix for 8 years so this video was really interesting. For people wondering why you'd buy one, I use it all the time and it means I don't own a blender, mixer, steamer, juicer, bread maker, nutribullet, etc.
The biggest benefits I find are the easy dinners, such as the meatloaf where it cooks the meatloaf, steams veggies and makes a sauce all at the same time, or the risotto where you put the ingredients in and come back 16min later to delicious risotto.
It makes me more adventurous in making things from scratch because it's less intimidating, like bechemal, caramel, soufle, bread, custard, and pie dough.
I injured my wrist once and during that time cooking was difficult because chopping, stirring etc were quite painful. The thermo really came in handy then! So I imagine for people with less mobility it's a useful tool.
Finally the other big benefit is making food for restricted diets. Many people I know with thermomixes are gluten intolerant or coeliac, and use the TMX to make most of their food from scratch.
I too own a Thermomix. Had it now 2years and I use it every day. I simply love it. As mentioned above you add the ingredients and set the modes. You leave for however long the recipe takes to prepare/cook while you attend to other preparation e.g putting things away or washing up or anything really.
I’ve had my TM6 for 3 years and I use it 4-5 times a week. It’s still going strong and I haven’t had to replace any items. I know it’s pricey and you have to pay for the membership, but they’re constantly coming out with new recipes and add ons. I can totally see why someone who knows nothing of it would think it’s a waste of money but it’s been such a timesaver and the guidance is so easy my hubby can cook too!
Important note: the "smoke" you see rising from the sugar as it's being powdered is extremely flammable. Please be careful if you're doing large batches or consistent batches!
Fine powders are flammable in general around an open fire like a cigarette for example.
@@theinvisiblewoman5709 Yup. I remember Mythbusters did a segment on that.
Wear fire retardant clothing, and bring the garden hose in. Also. 👍
Same problem grinding grains into flour etc. Any fine dust can be a hazard
Between the dust explosion possibility from this video and the wood burning she recently did; I’ll have to watch well before bedtime! 😅
Glad that you're back, hopefully everyone's feeling better!!
It's clear even from the first couple minutes of this video the substantial amount of effort you put into these for us. I just want to say that I really appreciate it
Thanks Wol ves, lots of work went into this one.
I just kept thinking of all the food her family had to eat during these tests lol
My husband and I don't mind eating the same leftovers for 3 or 4 days, but my mother-in-law would be like, "buns for breakfast, again? It's the 3rd day, already!" Lol
Even so, my husband still cooked the same medicinal chicken soup for a whole 2 weeks (not 2 weeks of leftovers, but after the leftovers were gone, he cooked the same soup, again lol his mom went on a soup strike for a couple days, which was simultaneously hilarious, cute, and very surprising, because soup at the end of the meal is a must in Asian culture)
I think the big thing that wasn’t covered was the meals. All these modes are great on their own, but cooking an entire meal when I don’t have to babysit it is a major win. You can cook dry spaghetti right into your sauce, can cook curries with the rice in the basket on top. Stews ect that aren’t necessarily a slow cook type meal. Today I made rice risotto by dumping the ingredients in, walking away, and coming back in 20 minutes to a fully cooked meal. As a single mum with young kids who works full time, that is a huge timesaver.
No comparison on either of the machines - both seem to work the same. But the idea of thermal cooking itself is amazing. I don’t cook well, I can’t get flavours right, and I f-up anything I try to cook with a recipe book. This steps me through an entire recipe and I can’t fail. My family eats better, I make more from scratch, and the flavour is just as good or if not better then takeaways at a fraction of the price.
That does sound amazing. I think I'll stick with my instant pot, as I actually really enjoy cooking, but I can see the appeal for someone who doesn't like to, or doesn't have time.
But, funny little thing, I just woke, and had this on while I was brushing my teeth. Glanced at the comments and saw yours, and thought "why do her young children have full time jobs?" LMAO
I was wondering what the appeal of these are! Having the recipes build right in would be nice, I know I can do recipes like that but I never want to do the research!
Moms from decades ago must have been supernatural 😂
I really appreciate this comment. I'm not a great cook either, but I don't have to feed anyone but myself and I have plenty of time, so it's difficult for me to understand the purpose besides it being pretty interesting. My biggest worry is future obsolescence, but if it's used every day for the 5-10 years (this is a wild guess for how long before it breaks in some way) then you'd still get your money's worth. It just makes perfect sense in your context, but it just didn't occur to me.
I’m interested to see how people actually use it, I suppose the biggest benefit is weighing ingredients and being able to chop things, so that someone like you could dump in ingredients without having to learn those somewhat overlooked skills. Other “easy cooking” gadgets I’ve seen (like Instant Pots and this automatic oven thing I keep getting ads for) don’t take into account and assume people have already learned those kitchen skills. For most, it’s more worth their time and money to learn them, but I think there’s a certain group of people who have solid enough careers that a device like this is worth the money.
Tokit is really the true price of the Thermomix. After searching online, I found the ThermoBlend Elite All-in-One Food Processor & Cooker from Kogan, at $230. It would be cool to see you test this one out.
Oh yeah! That's something I could actually afford... if the quality is there, it'd be nice to have
@@hamsandwich99 Kogan vs Kmart, battle of the budget buys.
I’d honestly be very interested in this. As Covid has shown Kmart has become an integral part of Australia’s shopping habits and it would be great to know how well they really stand up
Maybe even test it against the Cuisinart CompleteChef cooking food processor ($699 US / $970 AUD). For reference the Kogan would be about $320 AUD.
Even at a budget price, I still wouldn't buy this type of machine, as I enjoy making a day out of hand mixing and preparing special treats for my family (not like I'm making bread or chocolates every single day, usually just once a month), but I'd still love to see Ann test out budget options and then compare overall stats between budget and expensive at the end of the video
MeiLe美樂 wait r u the real mei
How is she able to make a video so entertaining?!? There is not way I’ll buy either of them but I just love how thorough she is. My type A brain loves this content ❤️
Wow, looks like someone at Tokit actually did user research in kitchens and asked people how they would rather cook.
There is a huge value to understanding how people use products, not just engineering them.
Seeing the tokit, I can't understand why someone would still want to buy the thermomix, especially considering thermomix seems to be an MLM
Still, i don't understand why they don't offer a real manual mode, with full control over temperature range, timer and mixing speed (up from 0).
@@CaptainsMorning Because it's Made in China! I wouldn't touch one on principal with a 10 foot barge pole!
the carrot but for the thermomix really got me. why was that designed?!
I don't think it has as many recipes as the thermomix? The thermomix has over 70K recipes
So happy you're feeling better Ann. In this case I would go with the Tokit, it seemed to work just as well as if not better the thermomix for a lot cheaper. However, both seem like another gadget that will inevitably collect dust and take up precious counter space. Thank you for this video ❤
How did u comment it says u commented 17hrs ago
@@cathplayz if you join her channel members get to watch the video first before she posts it I think.
@@heatherowen3033 close - patrons get early access 😀
Oh no Trust me, my mom has the thermomix (here it’s called "bimbi" and it’s pretty common to have), and she uses it for EVERYTHING, like she doesn’t use the stove anymore 😅
I didn't think I'd ever consider a machine like that for my kitchen, but after watching this video, I'm so impressed! Great review
From what I saw, the cheaper one performed either equally as well or even had some slight advantages in other tests/comparisons. Perhaps as more knockoff models come out, the price will drop a little? Still incredibly expensive, and I feel like most people wouldn't stick through the learning curve and it would become countertop decoration.
Thermomix is just more and more expensive. Even adjusted for inflation. Older models lasted forever though. My cousin had one that was like 25/30 years old (bought in the mid-80s).
Right? I doubt I’d ever buy either one because it’s just not worth it to me with the very limited foods I eat due to health issues. But if I were to miraculously be able to eat whatever I wanted and I had a spare couple grand I’d buy the cheaper one. It seemed equally good if not better in most cases and for someone like me who, when I still ate everything, loves to eat but hates to cook this seems like you could get some amazing meals without most of the effort! The preset recipes seem pretty idiot proof!
She, and many other CZcams video cooks, received the tokit for free and asked to do a video about it.
Its kind of small. For one person or perhaps an couple that's okay, more than that you will need to make more batches
the expensive 1 limits what you can manually do, so it requires a subscription. no thx
The thermomix had definitely changed a lot since we got ours. The one we have still has manual controls. To make boiled eggs in mine. I prick the blunt end with a pin and put them in the rice basket. Works perfectly, with just the steam and no danger of breaking.
Which is how I make boiled eggs in a $30 Aroma rice cooker...
@@splendidcolors 😂 my thoughts exactly!
This sounds like it would be a good option for someone living in a small space and wants to forgo having an oven or stovetop. But I don't think I could justify the price for the tokit and absolutely would not for the Thermomix.
I was just thinking that the size was one of their biggest flaws. My mom never allowed any kitchen gadgets larger than the coffee pot.
I could never fit it in my kitchen either. My stand mixer was even a bit much. But I could totally see this being targeted to RV and Campers.
I've been using a thermomix for years and years, I personally really love it since it's really versatile, and the recipes are pretty good for basics. However I must say, I've also had some issues with it, where we ended up having to completely replace the mixing bowl otherwise it refused to work! Hope you're feeling better Ann!
From what I see the other one trumps it many times😂
Lucky you; some customers have been burned when lid didn't work and it spilled hot liquid on them 😰 And that mlm company didn't take its responsibility...
@@valivali8104 woah that's horrible, didn't realise this was a problem for others as well... yikes! hopefully they've fixed this fault since..
@@keevy7678 I doubt it, since it’s mlm.
Edit: typo.
Rich kid in da house.
That was a great comparison you gave us, Ann! I would love a follow-up going into more detail. Things I am curious about are: 1. Chopping: how evenly do the vegetables, nuts etc. get chopped and how much work is it with pre-cutting and scraping down the sides etc.? 2. Smoothies: how smooth do they actually get? Perfect creamy consistency (both with fruit AND vegetables) or still slightly grainy? 3. Cleaning: how easy is cleaning the machine and it's accessories? Can any of it go in the dishwasher? 4. Getting out every last bit: how easy is it to get out sticky foods, such as some bread doughs or thick desserts? How much of it still sticks to the blades and how so you get it off? 5. Further baking: how do the mixtures for bundt cake, sponge cake, cookies and elcairs turn out? 6. Complete meals: how much effort do you have to put in and how many people can you feed on one go? 7. Other uses: fans of these machines have come up with all sorts of other uses, what about sterelizing baby bottles, diy cosmetics, and warming up frozen meals? 8. Additional gadgets: what's on the market, both from the companies themselves and from other companies that make compatible products? 9. What's missing: for all they can do, there are functions that one might want but can't get with these machines. For instance, I don't want everything chopped, sometimes I want sliced (potato gratin) or grated (carrot salad) food. And what about popcorn?
Hey, I used to work in a kitchen that had a thermomix so I can try to answer some of your questions:
1. For our purposes we didn't really use it for chopping in the traditional sense, however it is very good at blending even the toughest vegetables or meat. For pre-cutting, you just need to make sure the food is small enough the reach the blade and have space to move around, and you don't need to scrape down the sides.
2. It makes the perfect smoothies/milkshakes/frappes, etc.
3. The lid and all other accessories are dishwasher safe, but the bowl has to be washed by hand.
4. Just like using a normal bowl, stuff still sticks but is easily scraped out with a spatula.
5. The cakes turn out like they were made out normally, but we didn't use it for other baked goods.
6. They could probably make 4-6 portions.
7 and 8. Sorry, I can't help with these.
9. Unfortunately it can only finely chop or blend food. It would also only work if the blade was covered, but we did have a slightly older model so this might have changed. We never experimented with popcorn, but it would be interesting to see if that could work.
It doesnt make as smooth smoothies/milkshakes as a vitamix does, no where near as good
@@rhiarnevans9420 have you compared them to the Vitamix?
@@suzannegmirek1520 yes i have both :), vitamix and thermomix
@@rhiarnevans9420 thanks. :-)
If I pay thousands of dollars for an appliance that is supposed to make my kitchen life easier and it actually won't let me do something, then I fail to see why anyone would pay anything close to this price. The limitations on both of them are outrageous.
Great video and very thorough, Ann! Glad you are feeling better!
I totally agree, this is just that stupid juice maker all over again. It would cost a fraction of the price to get a slow cooker, steamer, sous vide machine etc. Recipes are already free online and the individual items I’ve listed don't have a membership fee or DRM! Absolutely insane to me. Imagine if one of the companies goes into bankruptcy, can’t login to my membership, can’t eat tonight! $2500 of worthless crap! I think people are overlooking the fact that you can also only cook one thing at a time in these, whereas if you buy a few kitchen items for considerably less you can do a lot more at the same time. The cooking area is way too small and the fact you have to buy addons just to stop the blades is insanity when you are paying $1500-2500. The fact you can’t change the temperature to what you want on the one is mad, the fact you can only cook for 99 minutes in manual mode is mad, the fact that you can’t set temperature below 35 degrees is mad, these stupid devices have so many limitations you really couldn't pay me to own one! Now I've covered the objective facts, let me go onto subjective, they are both ugly, the tokit one less so but nevertheless. They are massive (which I can forgive since having individual items would take up a fair amount of space, however the cooking area size is relatively small to the overall size which is silly. Another personal subjective observation - I like cooking! I like kneading bread dough, I like using a sous vide machine, my slow cooker cost £24 and works great and super easy to clean, I know how to make rice on the hob, I know how to boil eggs, I know how to etc. etc. etc. This device for me would take a hell of a lot of joy out of cooking and reduce it to a clinical sterile process with no heart or experimentation - especially when you can't deviate from the recipe or you risk getting locked out from cooking in a device you paid $2500 for!!!!!! INSANITY.
I'll tell you what this is plain and simple. It is rich person bait, the bread maker of billionaires, the cupboard gadget of gaudiness. You'll use it maybe 6 times, figure out it's a novelty with too many restrictions and problems I've listed above and chuck it under the sink like last week’s edition of the now outdated iPhone, on which you could at least make calls to whomever you wanted. Let's face it if you carry on using the more expensive one it might not be just disappointment you experience but also diarrhoea, fever, stomach cramps and vomiting from the wonderful bout of salmonella due to the failure of the temperature sensor.
Overall, I would not only encourage people not to buy these hunks of overpriced unnecessary garbage, but also encourage them to actively excoriate any professional chef or even hobbyist that advocates for them. They are overengineered, ugly, overpriced and clinical and if you need to stop and think for a second about whether or not to get one, for the love of God, reread this comment!
You don’t know what are you talking about
totally agree
@@andreaiannucci7107 - The @Nikoli's Kitchen comment seem clear to me. Too much work goes into these steps for very small quantities in return. Mr Readon already pointed out some big deficits in operation, too. And where would you go to get this device repaired after an inevitable failure?
@@andreaiannucci7107I agree!
My mum bought a thermomix tm5 about 6 years ago now and we all love it, we are gluten intolerant and it makes milling flour easy and incredibly inexpensive, just the amount we have saved milling rice into rice flour rather than buying it already ground will have paid off the machine I'm sure! I'm also a Chef and the thermomix is hands down the best blender I have used for super smooth purees and making small batches of mayonnaise and hollandaise. For the home kitchen it is incredibly reliable and in the restaurant kitchen it has a great reputation as well. We have just had one issue with the scales breaking in our home machine which took more than one trip to fix but it works now. I'm glad to see there's a cheaper alternative with good specs as I would love one when I move out of home. I love to make GF bread, throw all the ingredients in and knead it, it also helps to bring everything up to the right temp for the yeast!
Love that finger/carrot test at the end. Thank you for the awesome comparison Ann! My sister bought a (much cheaper) thermomix, definitely not as fancy as that one. She used it when she first bought it and now it lives in her cupboard collecting dust. Sometimes you buy these devices to help you out, but then you never use them 😂
The Thermomix crushing that carrot when locking the lid in place was scary! It's fascinating to see that the Tokit really compares very favourably, even though it's significantly less money.
I always really appreciate how thorough you are in your reviews. You cover things I've never seen anyone else cover, yet thing that are still important (like the size of the machines, and seeing how their sizes compare to each other). It's really nice and shows how much you care about informing your audience.
I'm glad your back and better! I've never heard of these machines until yesterday on the antiMLM subreddit. An all-in-one cooking machine sounded cool, but I didn't want to buy from an MLM. It looks like the Tokit is a better value...still kind of pricey, but great to know there's an alternative. Thanks for the demonstration!
There are still some non smart ones for 500/700 euros
Iilluminaughtii just covered the company that makes the Thermomix if you want a deep dive.
@@DisneyDame I watched her video before this one. I've never heard of either company before.
People still watch Blair's crap?
@@michealpersicko9531 I didn't even know there was any controversy until you said something. Did some googling and saw, so now I know. You can't trust anyone these days.
I have never heard of these machines and have no plans to purchase one. I watched the whole video because Ann is so good at this!
I love how methodical she is about things. She does a great job of explaining things to us common folk without making us feel dumb.
I feel like its not a worthy investment for someone like me, but I see these very useful for people with disabilities or that can't access all of the stuff one machine comes with, since the machine makes it very easy and accurate to make any type of food. Up until now I didn't even know about this gadget lol, thanks so much for introducing it! A great video as always ^^
Thank you for mentioning this angle :)
the thermomix wouldn't be useful for a lot of us tho, the light mode ui excludes some people with partial sight loss, such as a hypersensitivity to light like myself, from being able to use it
@@monarchofrymden well obviously it won't work for EVERYONE but it could help a lot of people
Kylie Siwa who asked?
@@juliaalvarez537 dogs don't ask, they listen
I just love the absolute level of detail and thought that goes into each and every video.
The work behind the scenes must be immense.
Ann needs to have a show...just thorough, thoughtful and opinions are unbiased. Very refreshing to see on this platform. 👌 Excellent.
I don't understand how both the Thermomix and the Tokit managed to come up with such ineffective solutions to the lid not locking - food processors and blenders have had the four notches that must line up to let it lock on every side for eons.
I think they are aiming to become Vitamix/blendtec rather than kitchen aid/faberware.
Or that's the design cue I would suspect.
The thermomix does have a lock for the lid. 🤨
@@montselech yes, a less effective one that can pinch skin pretty badly (but looks like it could do worse if you were unlucky)
@@jaybee4118 pinch? Only if you are not careful which you should if you are using an equipment that expensive and that could be dangerous.
@@montselech yeah, but there’s no need to be like at all. As the OP pointed out theres far better ways to have a locking system that doesn’t pinch at all. This one is over engineered AND not that safe.
the efforts you put into your videos are insane! I know it's a small thing but at 16:40 the seasonings at the top of the chicken breast are so artfully, nicely placed, even the small details are visually pleasing in your vids (and of course the content is always very useful)
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I actually got the TM6 For My Birthday Last Month, I Saw This Video A Long While Ago And Only Just Remembered To Do The Test! I made the vanilla ice cream and the temperature on the screen was 90 degrees, but with the digital thermometer read 67 degrees, I ended up having to return it since it had made my husband ill for a week due to the to the eggs being undercooked in a dish the TM6 Made. (he's fine dw
Thank you !
@@bigjlm718 Welcome!
Hi Ann, I received your book for Christmas and I have made so many things. Your cake recipes are soooooo moist. I literally fell over tasting it for the first time. Your recipes are so well explained. I never thought i could do such challenging things like curds and Italian meringue frostings and cremeaus and more. I love your channel. watching you is a part of my week every time you upload. I have been a fan for 3 years now and i just love how you are so original and talented and how you are never ever clickbait. You are educational and entertaining at the same time. I can't wait for next episode, and i am excited to see what other books you may write in the future.
To me, the down sides you mentioned would nix BOTH of them in MY book. But if I had to choose between them, in MY opinion the more expensive one is WAY inferior, especially with that temperature inaccuracy thing. But with their inability to be used without stirring, the limitations on time, temperature etc on manual mode, they're both a no-go. ESPECIALLY with their high cost, they should be a LOT more flexible. And frankly it REALLY surprised me that the lower priced one beat out the higher priced one so consistently, on virtually EVERYTHING that there was a difference on, the cheaper one was better.
I've never heard of either of these and am shocked at the price! I recently (finally) purchased a double oven with extra functionality built into its programming options (a very expensive kitchen appliance purchase here) and it was way less expensive than both of these. There's no way I'd ever even be tempted to consider something like this for my home. I'm amazed that it's so popular in Europe and Australia.
Glad I'm not alone on this. I was thinking that my refrigerator was the most expensive thing in my kitchen & still managed to cost less.
I'm in Europe and have never seen or heard of these machines...
One reason they may be popular in places is because our kitchens tend to be very small. Combining multiple machines into one saves a lot of valuable space in cabinets and on the counter top, which may only be 2-3 square meters in total to begin with.
They're not that widespread, to be honest, I only know a couple families who own one. I have a friend whose parents own one, its about 30 years old now, if not more (no idea how expansive it was back then), she has 6 siblings and both her parents had very time-consuming jobs. While it doesn't handle full meals for that many people, I think having an appliance handling at least the vegetables or meat on its own without too much human intervention helped make things more manageable. The other person I can think of who has one received it as a wedding gift, I think it also was with the expectation that she'll start a fairly big family someday.
Well, it's from a German company so of cause you see it a lot here. Many people in Germany love the company who produces the Thermomix since the quality of their vaccum cleaners is better to other brands so as they released the Thermomix like 5 or 6 years ago many people where randomly hyped about it, especially these people who didn't wanted to purchase a airfryer since back than people thought you could only do fried french fries in the airfryer + it was also something some people wanted to own who couldn't get their hands on a kitchen aid. Thats some of the reasons I heard why people wanted the Thermomix so badly. I also heard of people who wanted one cause "when its so many mashines in one than I can save space in my tiny kitchen" but also rich people and the "I'm a housewife"-people where some of those who wanted to buy them either for showing off how good of a housewife they are or cause showing off how rich they are by being able to purchase it
They aren't that popular in Australia, I only know 1 person who owns one
Love my Thermomix. I paid it off in instalments. No different to paying the latest phone off but this appliance saves me so much time in the kitchen.
I’ve a thermomix tm5 and tm6 both came with butterfly whisk, varoma dish, simmering basket, measuring cup and spatula.
I love them, the thermomix actually has videos on some recipes to show how to do the step (like rolling out dough)
I don’t use my hob anymore, everything is done with thermomix. There’s great free recipes on the online community along with some CZcamsrs and Facebook groups.
My teenagers can cook up great healthy food - make our own stocks, sauces, jams, nut butters etc.
it’s great cooking from scratch and knowing exactly what’s in our food.
I love cooking foreign dishes.
Just look what over countries might offer. Translate and get going - nice! ;)
@@laktho oh absolutely! We’ve made foods that we’ve never even heard of and absolutely loved them.
I have the Thermomix for the last 3 years and never once regretted it. It’s truly worth every penny! Thank you for the honest and well tested review. Love your channel 💗
In defense of the Thermomixer, it is used in the food lab a lot 😅😂 We have multiple to make emulsions, solubilize proteins, make gels and cheeses, and ...
and..... a food lab is the perfect place for them ! For a home kitchen? Nah! Most of the functions can be done with easier, low tech, unbreakable, cheaper options where you have more control and satisfaction from hands on cooking because 'hands on' is where you add the LOVE that makes everything home made taste better.
@@jolenemathews I mean, Ann Reardon uses a normal whisk in a lot of her recipe demos because it gives more control. And handheld electric beaters take up less space than stand mixers so are probably more useful to many people (in my kitchen a stand mixer would have to live somewhere so inconvenient that it would never be used). But I do like your turn of phrase, and your point is reasonable.
@@andersonomo597 My old thermomix is unbreakable lol
@@jolenemathews My point was more that, just like 'one-size-fits-all' clothing is NEVER flattering to anyone other than a super model, these all in one appliances do not give you the control or instinctive feel or flexibility of specific tools. They also limit you in the volume you can cook, are far more complex to use, and clean than say a normal pot. Also, if the Thermomix malfunctions, you've just lost the use of ALL those multiple functions - and at big $$$. Honestly, I would never want one. I LOVE to cook, I LOVE my various appliances and pots and pressure cooker, etc. I'm not knocking these more complex machines but I feel that are geared to people who DON'T like to cook - they want a gadget that will do it all for them, and that too anecdotally has been my experience.
@@jolenemathews Well you obviously have a short supply!
Honestly how perfectly timed for this video to come out. My mom won't shut up about buying a thermomix, and we are gonna see one be used in a demo just 2 days from now. But seeing that there is another product just like the thermomix and didn't seem to have that many issues compared, it helps me possibly show them other options. Thanks Ann!
what did they end up buying? Happy with it?
I wish every product review video on CZcams was this direct & unbiased.
25:47 When Anna said "I am not willing to sacrifice my fingers to test that one..." I thought she was about to have Dave appear as the usual victim, lol.
Just wanted to comment on the quality of the few detailed shots in this video (you know the ones). Great scene setup, cropping, attention to color application, prop items etc. Simply gorgeous work. Keep it up!
This is the best review video I've ever seen. I'm not at all interest in buying either of these things, but Ann certainly gave me every piece of information I'd want if I was. Glad I've recently discovered your channel. Maybe it'll reignite my love for cooking.
I haven't watched your vids in a minute and I'm really impressed by how much better the audio in your studio sounds! Well done. and and great video.
Your videos are so thorough Anne I love them. Even if the video isn’t on a topic I’d generally gravitate towards, you have a way of making everything interesting
Thanks for this Ann. I was saving up for a Thermomix as they're so expensive in Australia. But now that you've shown me the Tokit I'm to get one straight away - I have that money already.
Honestly my old Thermomix is super reliable and its still going strong after 18 years and idk abt the other company. The thing about Thermomix is that they last long, and that is why it is worth it
I’ve been saving up and looking for a vintage Thermomix because I’m too much of a control freak to go for a new one that takes away the choices, but now after watching this, I think I really don’t need it. Hmm. The appliances I use most often are my Instant Pot, blender, and waffle maker, believe it or not. My son loves his spelt bread grilled cheese on the waffle maker! 😅
@jgm is bored, how do you most often use your Thermomix?
I think SortedFood tested the tokit too, so you could check their videos out too to get more ideas :)
I had a TM5 for 6 years and I replaced it by a TM6 and I'm delighted. It makes cooking easier and faster, especially for a family. The kids can use it as well. All recipes have the amount of carbs per portion calculated, which is invaluable if, like me, you have a child with diabetes. I make everything from scratch: yogurt, bread, pasta, jam, even play dough! It's a great investment as it reduces the grocery bill and you eat very healthy. I will give you that paying for the subscription is a joke!
I hope you’re all feeling better! Thank you for making this video
This video made me want a tokit omni cook lmao, they both seem like great products that both have ups and downs by the way glad to have you back Ann!
I own a TOKIT and its great. Espescially the Coffee cream recipe. Water sugar and instand Coffee and in a few minutes you get a crean that is Light and full of flavor. And it stays that way for 2 days in the fridge. Still dont understand how, but who cares.
This comparison was great to watch. Makes me happy i didnt spend more for the tmx. It even helped me understand some of the TOKIT functions better. Havent yet tried them all.
Yeah cause it’s probably an ad. I’m really disappointed in this video and hope there aren’t further branded videos.
@@MzMontana an ad for two opposing products? O-kay. 🤔🤔🤔
Thank you Ann, I always look forward to ur videos!! I click on the notification within seconds every time 😅. I’ve been doing more experimenting using your cook book, still LOVE the chocolate cake! My mum is always asking me to make it. Thank you again for making my Friday with your video!! 😁💕
G'day Macca Macca 😀
Interesting, fair and informative, as always. Thank you!
Very thorough, comprehensive, practical details about these products, and the many optional processes to using them.
These machines remind me of the gadgets spruked at carnivals like The Royal Easter Show - "it slices, it dices, it does julienned fries" and it ends up at the back of the drawer because your good old knife does exactly the same job but is easier and faster to use and clean. Melting chocolate in these machines is the perfect example - how can you beat a microwave, bowl and spatula - and you can't even lick the bowl and blades of these machines when you're done! Excellent review Anne - and SO glad to see you back and feeling better!
If you melt chocolate at 37 degrees for 30 minutes, it will set beautifully in moulds. Then pour some milk in and heat it up, then speed it up to get an amazing frothy hot chocolate and a relatively clean jug that is super easy to finish cleaning.
Almost at 5m subscribers, Ann.
Ann’s videos are awesome. So people, let’s tell our family and friends about her videos. 😁👏⭐️👍🇦🇺
I showed the Bob Ross painting done with cake video to my cousin (who's a new mom, so doesn't have time to be on CZcams) and her oldest (3 at the time) demanded "more!" 🤣
Good .🎉🇵🇰🌹
Wow Ann! Thanks so much! So much detail and dedication to a thorough review.
Love how in depth your reviews are!
I'm so glad that you're feeling better! Love your videos
I always love how comprehensive these videos are. Thank you Ann! 😊
You are a real trooper for doing all this. I don't think I'll ever be able to afford either of these, but it was really interesting to watch!
Yet another amazing video! 10/10! love you so much and I'm glad the reardon household is feeling better
Aloha Ann! As a retired chef and baker, I really appreciate your honest views on all your content. I've learned so much. As for these plug-in machines, they are still just expensive toys or gadgets. The customer's dollars would be better spent on cooking lessons. Knowledge doesn't require a plug nor need repairs.
Love your videos Ann, made my Friday better glad your back 😊
I've never heard of either of these things but the Tokit sounds amazing! Especially since it's just me and my husband and I hate fussing with multiple cooking gadgets as I'm trying to cook or bake something and having a recipe built in totally takes the stress out of all of it. I can see myself cooking much more with one of these. The review is great too cause I feel like I know exactly what to expect with the product. I'm going to have to get it.
Will I ever, or could I ever afford to buy either of these? no. Did I thoroughly enjoy this video and watch all of it? yes.
as always you're amazing, Ann!
These both seem like more trouble, more frustration, and more limitations than they're worth, but I'm so glad I know. Thanks for putting them through the test.
I'll never afford either of these, but I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you review them. So glad you seem to be feeling better!
Really enjoyed this and the air fryer video, both very interesting and informative!
Incredibly thorough and well done. Brava!
I'm early for once, Ann is hands down one of the best cooking creators!
Missed the video last week but glad you’re feeling better! Love you videos Ann💖💖
Thanks Merna
Got the TM6 for Christmas. Loving it. I can see how having two would be even better. One thing finishes and I’m trying to keep it warm while cooking the next. This machine is like having a helper beside me in the kitchen standing at the stove. I’m chucking ingredients in, the TM6 is doing it’s thing and I’m cleaning up at the same time. - If you live in a place things are not readily available in the grocery store I can see this machine can be a huge time saver.
we are on the cusp of Jetsons territory.
Glad to see you're back Ann! Hopefully all better with no more tiredness.
Again totally impressed with the work and time and money you put in!
Testing expensive things like this can be a great help for people. I wouldn't think about purchasing a thing like this. Much too expensive and I like to do things myself. It sounds kinda complicated to do what you want to do. If you want to cook and you can't, there are so much CZcams channels you can watch and cook with them. One of the channels has an app with spoken instructions, really great!
Ann, I missed you so much!!! So happy you're back, your videos honestly make my day, I've been a fan of yours for years, thank you for creating amazing videos :)
Welcome back Ann so glad your feeling better we all missed you.🥰🤗
Thanks Smiley Girl
This was incredible !! Such a thorough review !!
Heyyyy! So glad you are back - hope you are feeling all better now x
Glad to know you're feeling better Ann!
I've never heard of this type of machine before. It's like a combination of various kitchen appliances all packed into one.
I have been considering these machines lately as I have a disability and am struggling to stand at the stove and cook a meal, normally I have to turn everything off halfway and sit for a bit (I can't stand up for very long and sit at the stove is an accident waiting to happen) I would definitely buy the cheaper one mainly because of the price but it does seem to be as good as the other. It will take me another 12 months to save for one but better late than never. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos, I truly appreciate it and it's great to see a fellow Aussie succeding on CZcams.
Or buy stuff like an air fryer and rice cooker/steamer. Can make so many foods in them. Relatively fast and you can just let them be.
It's what me and my friends do. Not necessarily physically disabled. But adhd and executive dysfunction can make cooking difficult.
Yeah multiple machines. Personally only have airfryer and cooking rice usually isnt to much for me.
Maybe you could get a pressure cooker and such. A pressure cooker is supposed to be super fast.
All depending on the types of recepes you cook. Yeah more than one machine. But you have simple choppers and blenders for as little as 20 bucks.
Wow really excellent comprehensive comparison showcasing so many features of these machines. Ann is the best!
happy to see you feeling better!!!
The Thermomix is sold by a multi-level marketing company, so the other one is better by default.
But the Tokit is simply a copy of it.
Tokit also has an MLM program unfortunately
Was trawling the comments to see if anyone had mentioned this. My mum joined as a consultant when she got her first thermomix about 10 years ago, because if you make 4 sales in the first couple of months then you don't have to pay for the machine. Which adds you to someone's downline and they get a percentage of every sale you make. Your regional team leader also gets a percentage. As does their team leader and so on. And of course, you're not an employee, you're an independent contractor. It keeps hitting MLM classics. I'm glad my mum got out.
Wow I apparently needed to get that out! Thank you, kind stranger
@@auntielu8531 Not an MLM program, but an affiliate program, not exactly the same thing, and the parent company, Chunmi, is not MLM, either.
I'm glad u recovered and came back with a bang absolutely loved it ❤️❤️
Thanks Dhanvin
This is fascinating, I had never heard of these before. Thanks for the deep dive Ann!
Welcome back Glad you are feeling better
I'm so happy that your feeling better, definitely felt different not watching one of your fortnightly videos last fortnight. But of course I understood.
The illuminaughty yt channel just did a video on the shady practices and safety concerns of the company that makes the M6. Excited to see what Ann had to say about the products. I had never heard of machines like this until that videos.
And it was so recent, too!
Same, just saw this!
Ann didn't mention it being an MLM
@@skylarkblue1 True and I feel she normally would or not use the product at all with it being an MLM.
@@Kerosene.Dreams Yeah it was a bit weird.. Has she made any kinda statement about it since? It's one thing talking about it in a "this isn't very good" light, it's another not mentioning at all that they've been sued multiple times for injuries and tried to sweep it all under the rug and it's one of the really super scummy MLMs.
Hope you and your family feel better soon Ann! I would love to see one more episode of the miniature cooking series
Ann, you did not just sneak a cheeky pecan brittle recipe into this video! I'm so excited to make it! 🥰
I reallyyy enjoyed this video. It’d be interesting to see a video of you creating more recipes from your cookbook using just these machines!
Thank you for this in-depth video, Ann! Unfortunately, we don’t have TOKIT in Taiwan, so I have a THERMOMIX. It is a bit disappointing that THERMOMIX doesn’t perform much better given its higher price, but I still love it. I will definitely check the temperature issue of THERMOMIX when making cremeux.
The one and only educational cooking show with a pleasurable host a d so much actual value for your cooking skills but also your general knowledge.
Anne is one clever cookie, I'm always in awe watching the videos
Like so many others have said, even if I never buy either of these things, you make watching your review so very interesting, thank you!
So happy to see you again Ann!!! I saw someone with a Thermomix TM6 and it is amazing you can do all that in your mixer!!! However, I would go with the TOKIT Omni Cook if I had that kind of money. That's a ridiculous amount to pay and to pay for a recipe fee 🙄 with the Thermomix SMH. If you don't need the TOKIT Omni Cook, I will gladly take it!! 🤣 Lol. That's awesome you got to compare the two!! Otherwise I may not have known about the recipe fee as well!
🌸🌸🌸I'm glad that you're all better Ann!!! 🌸🌸🌸
Glad to have you back