The Chiricahua Apache Nation Today

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • The two Apache Foundation Directors tell their Nation's history from their perspective, a view decidedly different from what we were taught about these deeply cultured American Natives during our schooling.

Komentáře • 78

  • @lorraineflores6490
    @lorraineflores6490 Před rokem +13

    I am Chiricahua Apache from my Father's side his father Jonnie Three Persons was adopted later by a man named Flores, my father was from the El Paso Texas area. I am now living in Italy, but I am glad I found this channel to reconnect with my roots. Thank you Peace be with you.

    • @RoyalBlood1444
      @RoyalBlood1444 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Same on my fathers side. I’m Chiricahua and my great grandfather is from El Paso Texas

    • @ginakelley749
      @ginakelley749 Před 2 měsíci

      Hope the Italians treat you well- my Italian neighbor loves the Indigenous people as myself - my husband was Lakota, I'm German.

  • @abbyarnold4477
    @abbyarnold4477 Před rokem +9

    Thank God the Apache survived .

  • @RAEchelRunning
    @RAEchelRunning Před rokem +10

    I really appreciate this talk on our Chiracuahua Apache history and context to understand the BIGGER picture of the complex history of the west and the Americas. I look forward to learn more and share this important history far and wide. I learnt that many of the Big Mountain Dine' (Navajo) people who resisted force relocation also share Apache Clan relations. My respects and deep admiration for your culture and these important conversations. Thank YOU! Hope to have you come visit us in Bisbee!!

  • @ewellfossum
    @ewellfossum Před rokem +10

    I'm a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache from the Gila but ended up on the Mescalero Apache reservation. I am a direct descendant of Victorio, Mangas Coloradas (descendant of both Carl Mangas and Seth Mooda), Loco and US Chiricahua Apache scouts Charles Martine Sr and Paul Guydelkon Sr. I am half Chiricahua as I also am Norwegian, Menominee and Badriver Ojibwe. My grandmother Evelyn Martine was the last Chiricahua Apache born as a US prisoner of war in 1912.

    • @calinative5302
      @calinative5302 Před 7 měsíci

      Mine is from ojo Caliente. Also related rock clan

    • @REZHOOFZ
      @REZHOOFZ Před 3 měsíci

      I think we are related

  • @danasimcho310
    @danasimcho310 Před rokem +6

    Thank you, gentlemen for the enlightening & factual talks about the Chiricahua Apache. So often misunderstood, you have done a wonderful job of educating the public about the true intentions & peaceful nature of our great people. Again, I thank you.
    Many Blessings

  • @martinjenkins8270
    @martinjenkins8270 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m sure what these strong,proud people’s have endured they can achieve anything.Much respect from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @LupitaHenry-k6t
    @LupitaHenry-k6t Před 2 dny

    Thank you for this history. Great knowledge for this country to know.

  • @ginakelley749
    @ginakelley749 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow, very well spoken! The Apache Gentleman with the long hair, very eloquent and reasonable man, he should be the next President of US!

  • @anthonyscott7142
    @anthonyscott7142 Před rokem +5

    I really enjoyed this lesson. I know the Chiricahua have a difficult and long struggle ahead of them but I do not doubt that they will get their own reservation. Oh and I'm in the UK. If you look at my personal library you guys are far from forgotten.

  • @tanitabec3614
    @tanitabec3614 Před rokem +6

    Hola!!saludos desde ciudad de México!me llamo Ana!!que bien que se den estos eventos para que conozcamos y se difunda mas sus conocimientos!sus tradiciones!y se mantengan vivos los pueblos originarios!por la madre tierra!y por el ser humano!!

  • @christinamorales6887
    @christinamorales6887 Před 2 měsíci

    My grandpa is Apache and is from Mexico and met my indigenous grandma Chichimeca

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I lost Coco before I lost the people I loves. Thank you.

  • @simonsaiz9765
    @simonsaiz9765 Před rokem +1

    Your history is his story and is no longer a mystery to me .Your world is about to change again. G-d bless

  • @christinamorales6887
    @christinamorales6887 Před 2 měsíci

    So much inter generational trauma and so many reclaiming their true identity and reconnecting to their culture from assimilation trauma.

  • @fernandohernandez-quezada9970
    @fernandohernandez-quezada9970 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Both from México and U.S , we will come together

  • @ASYSofficial
    @ASYSofficial Před 9 měsíci

    Since my childhood I follow the history of the different Apache tribes. Still searching for books I haven't read so far. Really enjoyed this presentation/stories. I wish you all the best to get back as much as possible of your original territories.

  • @rosaliaoliver-qv3gr
    @rosaliaoliver-qv3gr Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing Painful history,and I hope everyone will understand

  • @jennifersummer9123
    @jennifersummer9123 Před rokem +2

    Thank you Joe Saenz on the wolf trail and Bill Bradford.❤

  • @simonsaiz9765
    @simonsaiz9765 Před rokem +1

    Thank you

  • @Decyg23
    @Decyg23 Před 4 měsíci

    ive watched this movie for the second time yesterday its really good

  • @SilencioBenji0110
    @SilencioBenji0110 Před 11 měsíci +1

    💯💯🎶💨🌌hopefullly one day i can find n baround and learn bout my apache chiricahua rootz .my innernez hurtz evday im so detached from where i need to be. What ive noticed uz youthz got lead astray becuz the older folkz stopped talking to uz youthz bout simple thingz to grow n exc

    • @ginakelley749
      @ginakelley749 Před 2 měsíci

      I hear you! Keep trying to connect with your roots - it will be well worth your effort! Grandma

  • @Rosie-Posie777..
    @Rosie-Posie777.. Před 7 měsíci

    Amazing story telling.

  • @robinantonio8870
    @robinantonio8870 Před 8 měsíci +2

    How rude to not turn your phone off during a presentation.

  • @christinamorales6887
    @christinamorales6887 Před 2 měsíci

    Mexican Indigenous Chichimeca and Apache ✊

  • @joeyrouse704
    @joeyrouse704 Před 9 měsíci

    My greatgrama lived on the last house on the block in pinos altos n.m. where she traded with apache back in the day they camp out in her backyard.juana Shaffer., across from little museaum.pop.200

  • @willgonzales5140
    @willgonzales5140 Před rokem +6

    I’m Chiricahua from my dad side if you read this I’d like to walk with you guys I’m in Texas I’m trying to reconnect

    • @Urgreatuncleredbear
      @Urgreatuncleredbear Před 4 měsíci +1

      From my mothers side and I’m same as you looking for more connections and peoples

    • @willgonzales5140
      @willgonzales5140 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yea it’s not easy I went all the way to San Carlos to get some history

    • @Urgreatuncleredbear
      @Urgreatuncleredbear Před 4 měsíci

      @@willgonzales5140 might have to make that same stop in a couple weeks at gathering of nations

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    Rusty & Coco, our first dogs are buried at Oak Flat. Very sacried.

  • @juanitawynne390
    @juanitawynne390 Před měsícem

    Mother Earth is a live entity, of course, she has missed her people. I grew up where the white painted woman is. I feel her calling to me.

  • @MisterMeow-vt8kl
    @MisterMeow-vt8kl Před 7 měsíci

    Fascinating talk. I was hoping for more information about the lack of funeral practices in the past. I respect and honor this gentleman but I question if they were really scared of death as it doesn’t seem like that was the case, but as he stated about other history of the past is incorrect. I agree.
    I have no way to confirm this, but I was told I have some Apache heritage. A DNA test came back with unknown information and of course with other race background. Either way, I feel and share the loss of my ancestral heritage and there is an emptiness there and perhaps even ancestral trauma. While it can be just a coincidence, I was extremely fast and athletic. I am mostly vegetarian and don’t care much for meat. Once again not evidence but certainly something in common. There’s a lot of knowledge and spiritual wisdom of the Apaches and I hope that these elders keep sharing. Whether blood relations or not, I respect and honor the Apache. Thank you for the video.

  • @antoniolisboadecarvalho8657
    @antoniolisboadecarvalho8657 Před 10 měsíci

    Suo do Brasil, mas defendo as causas indígenas. Pois são os verdadeiros donos da terra. Temos muito a aprender com eles.

  • @fernandohernandez-quezada9970

    Greetings from Chihuahua, we are coming together, eneeyoo..!!

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    I have "walked" the ground at Oak Flats. It's sacred for me

  • @carefugee533
    @carefugee533 Před 9 měsíci

    What he is saying is true my great grandmother was sold into slavery in Sonora Mexico and she had came back to the US.

  • @fairygodmomma2313
    @fairygodmomma2313 Před měsícem +1

    @1:05:16 you are telling the truth. Chiricawa are Aztec, according to my ex mate Naiche (rip 2007), the northern tribes are Toltec. Big difference. Also according to I believe Lanto via Saint Germain Society, hidden in the hills near Tucson is a very protected valley where people dwelled for over 4000 years. One can inly get there with the help of Sacred ones, try as one may, they won't find it.
    Regarding people saying you have no rights per the Constitution that is not true. If I remember correctly, the Constitution stated the Natives were separate nations and are to be respected as such. The USA is not allowed to trespass without permission. You should have your land. I pray the Constitution as inspired by God/Yulsen regains its original glory.
    Yatahey, from a white woman🕊️

    • @fairygodmomma2313
      @fairygodmomma2313 Před měsícem +1

      One more thing. @1:06:30 yes there was a treaty. It was made in a field right at Country Club and Benson, in Tucson. It's been 23 years now, but where tall trees & weeds grew, across Country Club by the Circle K, I was told is where the meeting happened. Some children in the neighborhood stated they found a marker there to prove it. I did not see, but how could children make this up. There also were signs of a battle there, I was told a fire. I found the bones of a hand. It's been 23 years, so I've not a clue if it's the same out there, but back in 2001 yes.

    • @fairygodmomma2313
      @fairygodmomma2313 Před měsícem

      @1:18:00 as Naiche reportedly said to Naichea to hush him he'd say, 'too many words.' ...You are right, talking about oneself and chattering like I am here is not preferred. Silence is. Thank you for this video, much appreciated flashbacks.

  • @ramonortiz3921
    @ramonortiz3921 Před rokem +3

    I'm Aztec apache chiracuahua I live where Geronimo surrender lordsburg New Mexico 17 miles from my house lordsburg is the last place in earth to be taken from the fork toung pale face to steel Geronimo told crook where the last free man rode shall the first Free man ride again 46 men Plus Geronimo against 5000 fork toung pale face and 3000 Mexican and they them to surrender the only reason Geronimo surrender they brought the buffalo soldiers to die instead but he liked them so he did he told crook he put it black rock on top of a pile of rocks that was shaped like a pyramid when that rock crumbs you no it's time he will have the same gifts as me but only one difference he will never surrender their much more than this I looking for faithful Zuni Christian who holds the holy relics they been holding keeper of the lordsburg door and UFO and gold tried in fire

    • @calinative5302
      @calinative5302 Před 7 měsíci

      We are from ojo Caliente grandmother Lopes Peña lordsburg

    • @ramonortiz3921
      @ramonortiz3921 Před 7 měsíci

      @@calinative5302 well hello so you no what I'm talking about. Keeper of the lordsburg door and UFO and gold tried in fire

  • @modiaz2026
    @modiaz2026 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did she say a warm Columbus welcome?

  • @christinamorales6887
    @christinamorales6887 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shut the phone 📱 off…gees

  • @user-os5vc9hv3b
    @user-os5vc9hv3b Před 5 měsíci

    I hear “we” being spoken by young men who were not involved in the history of the southwest 1800’s.

  • @juanchihuahua8287
    @juanchihuahua8287 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm wondering if my family comes from the chiricahuas we have the last name Chihuahua just like cheef Chihuahua

  • @rebekah5350
    @rebekah5350 Před 2 měsíci

    My kid did a DNA spit test and it said Chihuahua Mexico background I have Cherokee roots for sure

    • @Demac137
      @Demac137 Před 9 dny +1

      Cherokee had no presence in Mexico maybe u have some dna from one of the Chihuahua tribes like Jumano.Raramuri, Guarijo or Mescalero Nde.

    • @Cucurú-c9v
      @Cucurú-c9v Před 2 dny

      These DNA test are a joke. If he has Cherokee DNA so should his son.

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    What prepared me for old dead family was burring Coco at Oak Flat. Tell me about rehursal. Very scared.

  • @carlosrunningwolfMendoza
    @carlosrunningwolfMendoza Před 11 měsíci +2

    That are a non profit organization not a tribal nation I am going to be reaching out to BIA / interior department/ sec of state
    Bring federal charge claim
    I shall tell sec of state to remove the website in federal prison
    I have just standing of lineage
    I am international common law and domistic rights

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    MY first dog is burried at Oak Flat AZ.

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    Coco was over 13 & a dog. Thank God I lost him before a person.

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    Before I lost people in my life, I burried Coco at Oak Flat. Very sacried.

  • @deborahmagana5039
    @deborahmagana5039 Před 9 měsíci

    It's not "The Sun Dance" but "Sacried", noe the less.

  • @claudiomariani695
    @claudiomariani695 Před 11 měsíci

    Chirichaua ok nation

  • @carlosrunningwolfMendoza
    @carlosrunningwolfMendoza Před 11 měsíci +1

    Chiricahua Apache mimbreno NDE nation
    Joe is not a tribal nation administration
    He has no just standing
    That are not federal approved

  • @brysonbutler8942
    @brysonbutler8942 Před 3 měsíci

    John 3:16

  • @luisromanlegionaire
    @luisromanlegionaire Před 2 měsíci

    Tall dudes

  • @dripinwithsinz
    @dripinwithsinz Před rokem

    😅

  • @user-yt7cf5gi5y
    @user-yt7cf5gi5y Před 11 měsíci

    ¡
    48:00 48:00

  • @juanalejandrorodriguez9273
    @juanalejandrorodriguez9273 Před 5 měsíci

    Who are all this white people 😂

  • @sheralda-gx3uu
    @sheralda-gx3uu Před rokem

    Apaches came from us the Navajo people

    • @vernonpetago4355
      @vernonpetago4355 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I'm an Apache n never heard that we came from Navajo, we have our own history. Navajos have great influence from the Pueblo Culture and I believe it.

    • @carlosrunningwolfMendoza
      @carlosrunningwolfMendoza Před 11 měsíci +2

      Chiricahua Apache mimbreno NDE nation
      Is at war with Navajo nation
      Saying tribal chief Carlos Runningwolf

    • @calinative5302
      @calinative5302 Před 7 měsíci

      ​chiricahua is more archaic language and by our clan names we came first.