Piccolo Trumpet: The Untold Secret!
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Have you ever wanted to play the piccolo trumpet because you think it will help you play high notes easier? Well you're in for a unfortunate truth. In this video we talk all about the piccolo trumpet, and expose the truth!
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The piccolo trumpet exposes the "fast air" thing for the myth it is. High-range playing is actually falsetto playing. Just as you do when singing, you drive the falsetto range down into the normal range and vice versa, in order to disguise the transition. The falsetto knack is the very thing that prevents most players from developing the extreme high register, and educators aren't aware they're doing it so they can't teach it. They attribute it to "fast air", but they're sadly mistaken. Percentage-wise, a very small proportion of trumpet players ever manage the knack of falsetto playing. Extra support plus feel is what they're mistaking for "fast air". It's the embouchure set for playing in the falsetto range that squeezes their air-column, the way air moves between blades of grass trapped between the thumbs.
When you talk about 'squeezes the air-column', like between two blades of grass, that's a drop in pressure and an increase in velocity. Bernoulli is pretty clear on that. You're describing a venturi.
Could you talk about the falsetto knack some more? Never heard that term before.
You're right, the whole "fast air" thing is a myth, yet you have people like Bobby Shew and James Morrison going around talkin' this "faster air" bullshit and because these guys are great players, everyone believes them. These guys should stick to playing the trumpet instead of talking about it and leave the physics conversations to the physics experts.
Thanks!!!!!!!
I was about to buy a Piccolo trumpet
because I thought I was going to be able to play high tunes like you said.
Thanks again for this valuable advice I don't wanna get stuck with something is not going to work.👍👍👍
It practically goes the way of the piccolo (flute), you have to be proficient on the ("concert") flute before taking the octave-higher-pitched counterpart.
wait your meant to play a normal flute first before the piccolo?
@@SuperJxl Yes, you have to start with flute before moving to piccolo.
@@TenorCantusFirmus oops
Great primer on the picc. Thanks. One thing I noticed about the picc is that air velocity is even more important than on a B flat. Increased velocity, decreased volume (like you said).
"and play it high in the stratosphere" lol
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Heard Maurice Andre in concert in high school in the early '80s in Minnesota. He was amazing!
In my youth (Early 80s) I played a Bach Piccolo trumpet, and found it very easy to play. It would be great if you could partner with a distributor to compare and comment on the playability of different horns. As a music teacher I have access to a lot of different student horns and a few intermediate level, in addition to my professional horns, the differences in intonation and playability can be startling.
Can you please give some examples of what in your opinion are stark differences between horns in respect to intonation and playability?
You had me at "forget it"! Haha! Nice work. You should post more videos. You're a natural AND you sound great!
I know you, you gave my friend a lead tpt mouthpiece
@@user-rp4ei5ds3j Haha! Probably!
That was actually more informative than I expected. Don’t know why, but it was. Thanks.
I bought a piccolo trumpet, and indded with the standard mouthpieces it does not play easier the higher octave Bb4-Bb5. BUT then I realized that the fault is in the mouthpieces and I bought small mouthpieces of 11mm-14,4.mm diameter from resin or acorn that are normally used for wooden cornetti musical instruments , AND THE MIRACLE HAPPENED ! Playing the Bb4-Bb5 octave became almost as easy as playing the Bb3-Bb4 octave in the standard trumpet.
It was the cornetto that in part fixed my embouchure. Bottomed out at first until someone showed me the off-set embouchure plus a very light touch.
The mouthpiece that the guy in the video is using looks about the same size as a normal Bb trumpet mouthpiece, which is probably why it's not easy to play high notes. The smaller the mouthpiece, the easier it is to play high.
This was very informative! Thank you for sharing.
You’re welcome thank you for watching!
Trumpetgeek nation is the best I have ever saw in my life I would give a 👍
I was at a summer music program back in the mid-1970s, and recall a moment when one of the faculty, who was a trumpeter, called out to anyone who might happen to be listening: "some people say the piccolo trumpet is difficult to play. That's not true at all. _It's damn near impossible!"_
Piccolo with A pipe allowed me to play notes written in the treble key of keyboards. The transposition is somewhat staightforward by reading the treble notes as if they were in the Bass clef. Allowed me to play along with organ or piano and directly reading the same sheet.
Fascinating video. I've been curious about this instrument since hearing Delerue's 'Grand Choral' from Day for Night. I wonder if Delerue knew Maurice André.
A Trumpet player from Cuba. Thanks for the inspiration an knowledge!!!!
Thank you ! I like your presenataion !
Thank you. Great info.
I always wanted to try my hand at piccolo trumpet way back when I was a first trumpet in the band but I never had the opportunity. Now I no longer have the chops for it!
when i played one, i used a Bach 7e which, although it wasnt comfortable in the high pitches of the Brandenburg, its did everything else extremely well, and was comfortable and had a full sound. The horn responded to it very well and did not cause me to over exert on most anything.
I currently use the 7E as well. And to your point, it works very well with almost everything. Brandenburg is just just a different beast all it’s own!
Very nice Sound
You earned a like just from the intro. lol
Oh the statement on his t-shirt is exactly same as my current lives
Beautiful
Very Interesting Thanks
THANK YOU for checking myself before I proceeded to wrecking myself. :)
This talks sense. The piccolo trumpet is very difficult to play and requires a totally different technique. For most starting players the piccolo ends up sounding like a kazoo, until you learn not to overblow which is harder than you think. This guy with his little sample at the end shows he’s mastered the instrument. One comment there are very many variants of design of piccolo trumpets depending on the trumpet maker.
Excellent point! There are many styles, as well as piccolo trumpets in other keys than A and Bb. Such as a high G and F trumpet. There is also a C piccolo trumpet. And thanks for your kind words! I wouldn't say by any means that i've mastered it though!
I've never even tried to play any brass instrument and this was very interesting. The speech is very quiet, though.
Wow, great video! I'm just getting back to playing trumpet again. So I was looking at a regular Trumpet and the Piccolo...I think I'll get my b-flat trumpet and maybe next year, check out the piccolo. Great informative video.
Michael Brown yeah, definitely not the horn to pick back up on! Go for the Bb first and get your chops back!
Young man perty good video
Saxophones are top quality, great instruments. Piccolo, ' snare drums...super ...flutes too....good.
That is great
I have a yamaha 4 000 series, struggle with high range thought to opt fr piccolo now I realize it would still be the same so I rather work on the current one tnx
Clean
It's adorable & it has 4 Valves.
It sounded like a bird built a nest in your bell! I have tried playing them… They are a challenge. That’s why I play a trumpet in a flugelhorn, a lot less stressful!!! 🤪🤪🤪
It must be technically possible to play Brandenburg 2 on a modern non-piccolo trumpet, but you only hear it played on replica baroque trumpets or on piccolo trumpets. I suppose players who aren't aiming for "authenticity" just go for the tool that will make hitting the correct notes more reliable.
It depends what type of orchestra you play with. A modern one like English Chamber orchestra or Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra will require piccolo trumpet pitched at A=440
A ‘period’ instrument orchestra like the Academy of Ancient Music will use a so called Baroque trumpet pitched 1/2 a tone lower at A=415
Performing Bach’s 2nd Brandenburg Concerto ( which I performed and recorded many times on both) is like running a 4 minute mile in my opinion. Other musicians do not understand that you cannot just play it again straight away. Even the great Maurice Andre agreed with me !
Can you suggest any beginners music to play and how is trumpet music different then piccolo trumpet? (How can I read it cause I don't know what the fingering are compared to what note I'm playing)
Sorry I’m so late in responding! There is loads of beginner trumpet music available on the internet. As for piccolo trumpet, from the comments I feel there is some confusion on the topic of fingerings. The fingerings are the same across all trumpets. An F is 1st valve on any horn you play, etc with all notes. The difference is when you begin to transpose. Although the fingerings of the notes you are playing are the same as you’re used to, you are now reading and playing different notes than those on the page. Does that make sense?
The Bach mouthpieces for the high register have often a rounded rim which digs in my lips. The Schilke 15A4a works much better . It is big and flat but falls immediately straight down in the cup so those bottoming out easily have normally enough room. The wide diameter assures flexibility. The tone however is sadly (at first?) not really beautiful. The 14A4a is more rounded, I think. I never tried it.
Ah - so it takes just as much effort to buzz at the right frequency, but there are fewer partials to reckon with in the same range. Makes perfect sense.
Yes! In addition you have the added back pressure. Much different feel than playing on a big horn, and harder to control the sound. But once you get the hang of it it becomes second nature.
I passout a lot trying to play high notes when I was in high school. I can only go up to A or B, so I gave up playing trumpet eventually.
Wong Tik Ki you’re just bad
@@mybonesfellout bruh, what type of trumpet player are you, we got to support other former or present trumpet players...
Keep on trying and I promise you it will get easier. It will take practice and commitment to play in the upper register, but if you stick with it I promise you it gets easier.
Gabe Vargas you shouldn’t discourage people like that. Some people will have an easier time with things than other, but everybody can achieve them if they are committed.
It just takes practice and more practice little by little you will see the results.Samething happens when you are learning guitar is not easy it takes a while.
Just be patient !!!!!
Piccolo in the key of A, with a piece of music in the key of D, what would be the transposition
You'd have to play a perfect fourth higher than what is written to play in the key of D on a picc that's keyed in A- or, alternatively, a fifth lower.
What mouthpiece are you using for the piccolo? I'm having trouble finding the right one...
For a long time I used a GR 64P I believe. I’ve since started using a Bach 7E, and a Schilke 11Ax, depending on the rep I’m playing.
Hello, i have a question about your "pipe bag". wWhere did you buy this?i want to have this too! Thank you for answer!
It actually came with my piccolo trumpet to hold the extra pipes. I believe you can find similar items online.
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Oh heck I was under the impression I could player higher B flat music 😕
Is there such a beast as a piccolo trumpet leadpipe NOT made with yellow brass??
That'sexactly what I thought when I asked my teacher to bring his picc in.........Watch me hit the screaming notes. Boy was I pissed when I found out I couldn't hit SHIT!
😂
I find it's actually harder on the picc.
Another reason most players use the A lead pipe is because it provides better intonation. Longer tubing equals better intonation.
Yes, The A side is so much better to me. I know a few wacko’s who prefer Bb on picc but I avoid it at all costs!
@@codybtrumpet I only use the B flat lead pipe when the key is just too difficult to play on the A. That happens very rarely.
I wonder if the pícalo French Horn does the same thing?
I can only imagine that being more of a challenge. French horn is my 2nd instrument
How do you start blowing this from the beginning, I have a piccolo trumpet, please help me I am ready to play
Everything is the same as playing a regular trumpet (fingerings etc) but just use a smaller air stream. You can’t force air into these horns.
Playing pieces with the trumpet in “A”. Are there any slides that need pulled out? If there is a piece in E what would be the transposition ?
Hi Chris! If the part is written in A, you would just play it as written on the A side of the piccolo trumpet (assuming we’re only talking about piccolo trumpet pieces) no additional slides needed. i don’t believe you would find anything in E that you would play on n piccolo trumpet. The Brandenburg concerto is in F. That’s about as close as you would get.
However to give you an answer - Ein Heldenleben for example has a short part written for trumpet in E. I would play a C trumpet and read up a major 3rd.
Hmm, perhaps I should do a video on transposition 🤔
Normally you have to pull out the 4th slide to get the lower register in tune with the normal register without use of the 4th valve. When the tuning are in A sometimes the 1st slide has to pulled oud. But it really depends of the trumpet.
whats the song you were trying to play in the beginning?
iSuchFear it’s the trumpet part to the Brandenburg concerto # 2.
I once went to a music store and found a piccolo trumpet and like you said it's not 99 percent easy to play one is did play 7 years on it and now I would like to get my hands on a piccolo trumpet one day again
What brand is the trumpet you play in this video?
Ian Fuller it’s a Carol Brass Piccolo trumpet. I’ll do a review on it some day :)
Hope to see your review soon - I’m considering getting the same piccolo trumpet, partly because you make it sound quite good 🎺
What Brand/Model Piccolo Trumpet do you use?
In this video I was using a Carol Brass piccolo trumpet. It was very nice for the price point - around $1,400. Now I play a Schilke P5-4. A big upgrade!
Yep, she's a wee beastie!
Please make more videos
I’m working on it :)
Make more videos pls :(
I've seen a piccolo trumpet pitched in C.
pukalo you can get them in G A Bb and C
Ha, ha, ha, "when I was a young trumpet player", YOU are a YOUNG person boy. NB: Wondering what you will say when you are 80?
Lol! This is very true! Guess I was meaning young in terms of skill level vs age.
Why do you only have 125 subs
456
4 years later and we’re almost at 1000!
Have you tried the natural trumpet?
Nick Doe I have! It’s very fun but really hard! And expensive!!
@@codybtrumpet Perhaps someone can explain why, since the passing of Maurice Andre from the recording scene, the natural trumpet seems to have surpassed the piccolo in the great Bach cantata repertoire, as played by John Eliot Gardiner, Ton Koopman and others? Especially in view of its being more difficult than the piccolo.
That low g is so sharp holy crap
Yeah… downside of a budget horn. It was very good for the price. I now play a Schilke P5-4 which is obviously much easier to play in tune :)
It costs more, is harder to play, requires relearning your fingerings, sounds objectively worse unless your are Maurice Andre (no offense but I'd give odds that almost everyone sounds better on a Bb (pic wise, hats off man)), doesn't swing and qualifies you to play Penny Lane. On the upside, it will actually help you to learn to play upstairs by giving you the sense of where the sweetspot is up there... It obviously takes years to decades play.
So you can play high notes better not easier
A is a good country key
Eb piccolo trumpet
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nice
Top secret: practice 40 hours.
There is a piccolo trumpet
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Penny Lane brought me here 🙂
Picc sucks, Eb is the smallest I'm comfortable with
Picc does suck for a while until you figure it out. Even at the point I made this video there were many things I struggled with on this instrument.
@@codybtrumpet totally true, but at 62 my high horn days are over
And if your videos that long I'm surprised that it cannot be that bored like for example it's nothing interesting I'm looking at it sounds like like nothing I can't even describe
Selena Belteus thanks for the wonderful comment! You know what the best part of CZcams is? If you don’t like something, you don’t have to watch it :) if your looking for mindless entertainment, try some cat videos, might suit you.
TrumpetGeek NATION was just saying like if you want like more views and more people to subscribe like you at least have to make it more interesting like I didn't really say to be like more meaner things and I never watched cat videos I guess that am not a cat person but thinks and I was just saying like if you want like like I know what you do is you think it's interesting but I don't see it as it's true thing as you do and I was just saying that if you want more views or subscribers you should at least do fun things I was just saying
As I see you do not have good taste in videos so go watch Elmo it will fit you
Gage Agner tell your mama that
It is boring to you because you obviously aren't a serious trumpet player (if you are a trumpet player at all). Please, just leave.
If you wanted to be more interesting like at least two dance moves have another partner you do challenges and stuff yeah just wanted to tell you cuz I was bored to death
Dude grow up
Good explanation of piccolo trumpet. Glad you touched on harmonic series. Baroque music often in D lays great on the A side of piccolo trumpet putting it in F.