HONEST Reality About Ivy League Colleges - Teaching, Experience, Pay Packages
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Pratham Mittal is an entrepreneur and founder at Masters' Union. After studying in Doon School, he attended one of the most prestigious colleges from the Ivy League at the University of Pennsylvania. During his third year of college, Pratham started Outgrow - one of the largest polling technology companies in the world.
In this podcast, he shared his experience running his education firm ‘Masters' Union’ which is known for providing the best campus placements with the highest CTCs, his experience of studying in Doon School and Wharton College USA. He also shared his thoughts on different educational systems, problems with the current education system in India, and how EdTech can play a major role in solving these problems. Along with that, he also shared his passion for swimming and how it helps him calm his mind to bring the best ideas.
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In this video, Pratham Mittal, Founder of Masters' Union shares important details about Ivy League Colleges.
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"It's not about US college. It's about having experience outside of your comfort zone."
This helps all students who were not accepted.
That is for losers more like
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Best comment out of all them!
I think Ivy League gives us a very valuable alumni network or simply a network that helps at every stage of your career
And the generous ivy league
Do you think student from iit is less intelligent than an ivy league student?
I don't consider intelligence an personality
Consider it by only level of brain strength.
thats a total bullshit
Watched Jordan Peterson saying the same thing. It's true. Good IQ plus Great social connection, nothing beats that.
@Pafnuty Chebyshev above average. Above 125 is too good. And bdw emotional intelligence is much more beneficial than iq in long run read golemans book
What I studied at an Ivy League school is nowhere near a tier 2 or 3 school in India. For instance, I went to Cornell and we had a couple of weeks at the end of every semester where the prof taught us how they start businesses on the side in that scientific field, including raising funds. They even wrote with chalk and made us take notes in notebooks and literally prescribed little to no reference books. BEst part was they said this is the base now go use your imagination with this.
What’s the metric of being selected?
@@sayantanpolley1584 You just have to be different and ideally nobody like you is on campus. This is beyond grades, they don't know what 85% vs 95% means on your marksheet and honestly don't care.
@@anirudhashok5283 What procedures you followed to join it?Pls Share and If not in marks then in what they weight the student's worth??
@@chandranshgupta9590 extracurricular achievement, marks SAT and boards exam (it is important), essays, letter of recommendation from your teachers
Okay so I'm in my junior year of highschool and I'm kinda lost. I've started my preparation for SATs and I've extracurriculars
Apart from that what should I be doing this year?
I studied in an okayish college in US and graduated in 2015. My roommates work in Apple, Microsoft, Google and FB so you can make it easily in US. However the connections students can easily make at Ivy League is priceless
‘No difference’ between US top tier vs tier 2/3 in India is a stretch. There is a substantial difference. I am not saying this so we can all start aiming for US colleges, but rather so we can demand and bring better teaching methods and resources in Indian education.
Source: IIT grad then Cornell MBA
Who is that iit grad and Cornell MBA?
@@deepanandatripathy7227 the guy who commented
@@noroomstash2098 @Deepananda yup, that's me.
damn bruh so how are you doing in life right now?
I bet ur living the life
Was getting into IIT tougher than getting into Cornell?
An ivy league/ top college name on your resume will provide you ample benefits. Starting from getting internships through college job fair, access to various alumni with their experience and also probably a shot at higher salary than a regular recent grad student.
@@kenichi407 Wrong. I have met people who didn’t let their partners social status affect their life, marriage, relationships & daily life. It only happens in small cultures; decentralized cultures don’t really discriminate.
What makes these ivy league colleges worth is the out of zone experiences, direct facing with diversity and getting to excel in an unfamiliar ground which makes the students gain more of social and mental perfection. At the end of the day whatever college you get into it'd definitely be your edge that makes it more of a experience. And these colleges provide you with apt environment for such growth.
I currently am pursing Graduate degree in PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENT OF HAVARD.
Can u help me out with the application process for harvard, I want to apply for my postgraduate in psychology too❤
@@vinishag.8909hey buddy can uh help me too if there any platform for us to connect?
@@vinishag.8909 me too
I think it is very wrong to say that the Professors from top colleges and teaching of top colleges in US are similar to India. All the top US colleges have Professors with top notch knowledge, experience and degree. If you have taken a live course with them you will be able to know the difference and all the students of such colleges I have talked to have said that ofcourse the people there are awesome and that's the best part about it. But the second best part about it is the Professors and there style of teaching.
I think the difference is indian professors aren't really passionate about what they are doing its a job for them, obviously that is our education system's fault. While those professors chose to do it because they had the freedom to, so that passion shows in their teaching. Knowledge wise I'd say they are at the same level.
I totally agree with you ,we already know that India have very decent education system and also a lack of opportunities about everything,like jobs and ,internships until you are not belongs to a good and rich family.
@@ajay.khattri3278 good and rich family? Reservation has gone upto 75% be it in IITs or iims or govt jobs there is reservation for females SC ST OBC Physically Handicapped EWS for Transsexual do you even live on earth seeing your comment I felt as if an alein is spewing random bullshit.
@@ajay.khattri3278 if anyone has good and rich family first step of their is to leave india work hard or even pay for taking US Europe citizenship rather than living here and the numbers are increasing each year.
@@asurawrath1481 I said who i experienced,i don't think you have ever experienced it and also all of the reservation who you talking about maybe you don't know how they are selling it for money .So i don't think you just have to show your knowledge with telling me how much you know about all of the reservation who govt reserve for us because its just a number you don't even know that how and where it goes.
The MOST relevant ''HONEST REALITY'' videos on the entire youtube platform !!! Thanks Ranveer bhaiyaa for posting this, never would have come to know this side of perspective and truth if I didnt watch it... Thanks once again :)
IVY refers only to set of a top 8 college on the east coast of USA. There are other better ranking Universities like Northwestern in middle, U of Chicago, Stanford, Berkley, UCLA.
MIT as well
@@deepika2637 its havard essentially
Right?
@@kenichi407 yes they are, check out their acceptance rate and famous alumni. You really don’t know what you are talking about. Throwing careless and shallow opinions about something you have never experienced or have any knowledge of.
Yup
Notredame and NYU also
i dont want to be to argumentative here, but if we are discussing "better" ranking universities, the majority of ivy league universities are ranked above these universities being listed. I would never consider UCLA to be better than say Penn, or Berkeley better than Harvard. Stanford and UChicago are comparable, while northwestern is also not on par with ivies (but i would consider closer than berkeley and ucla, but it is also dependent on your major). While the ivy league is an athletic conference, when people discuss it, it is a prestigious academic group, and for good reason. They are all top universities, in the setting of the usa and the world. Thats not to say the universities you mentioned arent great. But i feel an east coast versus west coast argument is an argument formed of initial bias and outright wrong to discuss.
1000 yrs back somewhere going same this like podcast but the difference is talking about Indian universities nalanda taxila
Stop living in past dude accept now that India is now 200 years back in education
@Pafnuty Chebyshev all the A tier colleges of electronics engineering teach IC8085 and 8086 do you know that it was made in 80s and is now not used anywhere...
Computer hardwared engineers are taught about floppy drives in their books and also asked in exams, who uses floppys.
I am in 12 th and Chemistry book still doesn't have elements name in periodic table after 100 years of ttheir discovery.
In my electronics department we are taught IC 555 timer IC now just no where it is used and by teaching it is a waste of time...
In our History textbooks 200 years old history of British is portrayed wrong... unnecessory glorification of useless leaders like Nehru and Gandhi.... and just one one paragraph about bhagat singh and azad and many other great leaders ...
Pick any A tier engineering college and ask what is the marks of practical and what is the marks theory paper .... you will get a 20 80 or 30 70 ratio .... i am like dude you are doing fucking engineering that too Btech and BE like course which you teach theory and then blame that companies are not giving jobs .... why tf will companies give jobs to a person who just know the formula of Gauss and Law of Motion just on Paper ? they need practical work
If IIT is left aside there is no such college who takes engineering seriously in this country .... now IITs also have not updated syllabus since 10 years
@Pafnuty Chebyshev Don't think emotionally look around you and then talk if its backwards or not
@@Padhaikarbhai My guy is splitting fax
@@Padhaikarbhai abhi tu 12th me haina then boards pe dhyan de
I realize that networking and cooperating is a very huge part during your teen adult life and moving forward because it's a phase where you meet friends that will become your family in coming years depending upon your connection with them. Your skills, experience, communications, etc has a lot of impact because of your peers and friends outside your alumini
its not about what college u go to, its about what u learn in colleges, now a days many graduates from iit are becoming unemployed while students from tier 3 colleges are getting huge salary packages.... its all about your willingness to learn
Disagree - Have studied in IIT. There is a huge difference between the level at which US profs teach vs Indian teachers. Reason for difference -Quality of life in the US is where people are at different level of hierarchy in maslow's pyramid
Bro ivy league are 100 times better than TOP IIT in india please stop spreading wrong info
yupp these people are never gonna nderstand that a tough entrance exam does not make a college great
He is indirectly trying to sell us Master's Union. Whether his comments are actually his true opinion or he is saying all this to deter top students from going abroad and considering his own firm, we will not know. So, take everything with a pinch of salt 😊
Ranveer a suggestion - the intro looks smug in appearance and is a bit off-putting and since it is the first thing people see they will be put off from coming again.
I think what he is saying is purely based on his own MBA experience that he had at upenn, but if you are into STEM field then there is day and night difference between teaching/curricular/infrastructure/exposure that's available in US compared to India, even best of IIT or IISc wont be able to compete with decent local US universities for instance one of my hardcore gamer friend from Pune went to UCF (University of Central FL) for MS as he wanted to make career in gaming and graphics, UCF has one of the best CS department with focus on graphics he learned so much in those 2.5 years of his MS that he ended up enrolling for PhD at one the top ranking UCs (University of CA) with focus on developing next generation shading algortihms.
I think Everyone could get international Experience and Make friends of different mindset different thinking different perspective etc. But At all there's not huge Differences in terms education but in terms of the Surrounding, in terms of the Nature of the college , there's a huge Differences till now may be
It's not the teaching or experience at Ivy Leagues. It the high challenge it requires only to get in.
I think that brings enough in an applicant to be worth of it all and ofc graduating from the top unis of the world will charm your career.
I feel that the opinion of the curriculum in Ivy leagues will be different based on the degree you are pursuing. I am in Columbia right now pursuing my master's and I don't think that I would have got the same learning experience in any university in India. I though agree with what he said regarding the people you are surrounded with
Can you please help me with the process
I totally disagree about it when he said that professor's are same ,we already know that India have very decent education system and also a lack of opportunities about everything,like jobs and ,internships until you are not belongs to a good and rich family.and if we talk about professor's then there's lots of difference between Indian professor's us professor's because the level of teaching ivy leagues professor's are very different
I'm pretty sure he's got the right to say so as he has been there and experienced it on his own. How do you know, have you been there??
Hmm why not he have his right to say anything and also maybe he was in ivy league but every student have their different points of view to observe everything and that's why he observed ivy league differently.
But as a student (not an ivy league) i also watched a tons of interviews and they said that ivy league is different from whole worlds education system,thats why ivy league is in top 10 Universities in whole world
@@sushantmatnani955
Bro, depending on the course you choose in the Ivy Leagues, you have professors who won Nobels teaching you
"Harvard University has produced 30 Nobel laureate in the field of science, whereas India has achieved 3." There is significant difference bro
To correct you.. surgeries are mostly done in morning which are elective procedure, whereas an emergency surgery can be conducted anytime either day or night .
This is very generalized and there is a lot more to it than stated in the video. The criteria such as expertise in the subject matter, real-world leading experience and stake in the respective industries, and the depth the approach to the curriculum requires is what sets these schools and its professors apart from the rest of the world. Aside from the alumni network and whatnot. It is a very three-dimensional education that goes beyond textbook learning and exams. It’s not back and white. The students also are screened holistically for many things besides scores and whatnot. There’s a lot to it.
I agree about the thing he said about teaching but to be honest the money that you earn in USA after getting out from IVY League holds much more worth then you going earn in India.
Thank God I came across this video while planning to study abroad.
Bro this person give you negative hope or knowledge about abroad you also have knowledge can you research on if our education system is same as USA or any top universities. So why we are not in the top 50 world universities?? Can you tell me.. top 2 or top 3 tier college is same😂😂 there are many things that usa universities gives you better than india. First is teachers the teachers is more intelligent then india and the alumi network is more powerful than india and there is much difference between India education and usa education and teacher. Usa teacher have much educated or have much knowledge then any Indian college teacher
Just a suggestion, the ending music of the clips suddenly feels too loud, i have to readjust my volume every clip, pls fix it. Great content ✌️✌️
your the indian JRE, kudos
I was scrolling through CZcams and I spotted my name in the title. I was stunned for a moment thinking why Ranveer is talking about me. Then I saw the word League in front of it. Hehe.
Super Advice!
Superb conversation with two honest guys.👍👍
Hello brother great information
Truth is being told....!!
There is a big difference in the teacing style and commitment levels from US professors...They do not teach for name sake or salary sake 😄
Thank you very much 😊
Part of it is true, what you're saying but don't you think assignments and thesis. And the component where we are challenged for open book assignments, which will challenge us for pushing our boundaries, is it not different compared to Indian education system?
the expression he makes when referring to his material scientist roommate (2:31) is just disgusting. Khud baap ke paiso se ivy me gya hai....No matter from where he got his eduction, the way he looks down on others shows that yeh banda sirf baap ke paiso se IVY league me pohucha hai
You can't get into IVY leagues through money unless you are a billionaire and gave millions in donations to the institute. He wasn't even a millionaire
Hello Ranveer ,what about starting a live audience podcast with a audience panel of a small group gets an opportunity to hear you live
I didn't graduate from high school or go to college and I escaped from CMH community mental health no physical doctor no. Welfare unlike most proffessionals
Hi, Nice talk
I hate when people assume they speak well while they are speaking… come on man, cut down on that expression and come to the point
Ivy league accept student who are all Rounders.
In India student can be very intelligent but not all rounder, india is country with very talented brains but less opportunity.
A person earning 30k$ - 40k$ in India is considered well off but if you put the same person in us his capability would be worth well over 100,000$.
India has too much talent but less opportunity!
@5:45 I am curious why someone will expect the content to be different? Gravitational theory will not be different in different university.
And yes, we all read same books (almost) all over the world - all the books are available in Asia at much cheaper price.
Umm not exactly
The concepts ultimately boil down to the same, but the grade level thry are taught in and rigour that's involved might vary
@@ahisheks2776 Did you verify before commenting? "Smart" is very subjective. Check their admission stat, or any other stat. Asian, and Indian always out-perform.
Keep Going
Mess up your health and mental peace, bang you're uncomfortable. Amazing logic
Corrnell should not be an ivy. Weakest of them all. Princeton is the best.
Masters' Union is not affiliated to any university and does not require UGC approval
You Cant draw conclusions with one guys experience
Anyone doing mba from abroad?
No doubt, one of the deepest TRS clips I've seen 🔥
I needed this
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"even if it's your house help's daughter, your driver" - we can see how non-elitist the alternative is LOL . not diminishing the value of the message...
eye opener for me
Guys with siblings and friendship holic , can't adapt adverse situations , they tend to use sell their falsehoods to enhance their chance to get fame in their home country.
The middleclass of Delhi, Haryana ,punjaab etc are rich in comparison to the youth of other states and they have a lot of connections , so dont get discouraged with such mafias of fund creators.
The number of times Pratham says 'right'😂 But all I can do is dream, wish and work towards my goal of working for him someday. Love your efforts and down-to-earth nature, Pratham Mittal❤
My fev ❤️ podcast
Sure
Man this guy has done political science there not, physics or mathematics or some other real majors..... He simply compared it with normal tier 2/3 college..... Man they have some reputation, they have built it over time.... They are 150 years old colleges
7:31. That South Bombay (lower parel) aerial view is definitely more than 5 year old man. Irony is that guy speaks of Tier 3 city while you display an older version of Mumbai. Lollll
Tbh for a long time I thought Stanford was an Ivy League college
Who is he??
I am not a subscriber of trs yet these videos keep popping up on my screen , youtube promotes few people .
Make a video on Russel group now.
5:10
I completely disagree with him. Teaching wise it may feel similar as in both cases professors stand in front of a group of students and teach😂.
But it ends there as students learn-abilty is a way better
1. Professors quality in top 300 engg colleges in US vs India
2. Class size
3. Continuous back & forth engagement between students & profs
4. Empathetic teaching approach where profs constantly gauaging how students are understanding the topic
5. Weekly assignment and grading system
6. Overall univ. infra that facilitates better learning environment
they are so casual to just laugh on khelo india. If the colleges are not so extraordinary than indian ones the how are the people extraordinary over there and not here?
Yeh lo aab 4th standard fail Harsh will tell world what to study and where to study 🤣🤣🤣
Masters Union Applied Finance program that you guys say its not even a Finance program it is Accoutning Standard program for IND AS and IFRS all sessionS about Accouting few sessions on other topics like softwares why did your team not tell this Applied Accounting program? So its Not Like Masters Union is so great though placement team is great but the course syllabus was not engaging enough sorry.
For some reason, the over expressiveness and unnecessarily animated communication style of this guy is throwing me off🤨
Fakers like Fanveer don't make the cut so they don't try and talk nonsense on youtube.
wht about job salary
living life
better job
He looks like Sonam Kapoor's brother
Just joking 😃
MASTER'S UNION
Who is this dude on the padcast
Whai is the name of this guy ?
take this with a HUGE grain of salt
Agar sahi se padhke IIT / IIM me jate, so you could have got same experience at a cheaper rate.
It bullshit, if you tell me to spend a crore+ rs to get these kind of experiences, while you can do the same in India.
IIT IIM mai bhi utne hi paise hai
@@Sonic-xs6vz bruh definitely not they’re govt colleges obviously they’re way more affordable + getting scholarships are easier
not everybody is from middle and low income group like you
You are comparing ivy league ,mit , Stanford to iit/iim..muh mat khulwa ab..even iim b/a students study HBS case study
Ja na chal aaja ek bar iim Bangalore dekhata hu tujhe phli bat toh yh ki iit or iim only focus on marks woh sirf marks per focus krte hai or kuch nhi unne sirf marks chayiye or bahar sab Krna pdta hai sirf marks per focus nhi hota wha or Indian college network kuch nhi hai unke samne hmare yha sirf Indian students hote hai clg mai ek bhi foreigner dikha de kisi bhi top mai nhi dikhta kyunki ate hi nhi hai woh bhar jayenga toh sab hote hai alag lvl ki network hote hai bahut chize different hoti hai pdai ke manle mai bahut difference hai
Mit and Stanford missing
Who is this guy mahn?
The point ivy league colleges are top 10 educationally is not correct Ivy was never created because of educational background but due to sports culture if you will see brown won't come in top 50 there are colleges like Stanford MiT are not Ivey league and still the best and when it comes to best it's subjective term since lot depends on domain you are talking about
Brown is top 20
@@ampleeducation1656 😂😂😂 bro just go and check brown University rank 67 in top world ranking
Ye masters union business school ka founder
Hello everyone I present my self Pushkar raj
Bruh
I am pretty sure doing a phd from Harvard doesn't put one on the path to Nobel. So much for ivy league education of the guest I suppose.
i had 70s in grade 9 and 80s and 90s in gr 10 is it still possible
nah
unless ur college essays and ur work in extracurriculars is exceptional
@@baeruhee im in gr 11 now all I have is straight high 90s and my ECs are good
US colleges are good coz professors are also great, not avg Indian tier 2,3 college profs for sure. I think.
Yeah mujhe lagta hai isne tier 2 ya three mein padha nhi hai I think that's why he is saying this fucking stuff 😛
Oh god! People who go to ivy think they become mark. In this video instead of telling us how simple getting into an ivy is you are just cruising them down like no education quality difference.
You think getting into ivy league is easy then any indian college😂😂😂 are you kidding me ghode khul jayenge ghusne mai yha sirf marks per focus Kiya jata wha sab Krna pdega or wha tak pahuch ke liye sab chayiye tume work ex , extra curricular, volunteering, leadership experience, gmat score 700+ yh kuch or india mai sirf marks chayiye
@@yashhemrajani5608 When did I state that getting into one is easier!
“Hypothalamus”
5:12 ivy league vs tier 2/3
what is his name?????
Paratam mittal
Can anyone name the guest, Please!
Pritam mittal
But job ??
Bhai hindi daal na vedio
8 Dustbin of US
certified chutiyapa bro
R don't know how to speak and wht to speak he is too confusing
Ye banda boring hai
Fake
Bruh ratio
You don't really need to study in the top US colleges to get the dream Job in US, my cousin who went in early 2000's studied MS in Computer Science at NYU and got a good job after graduation and is still working in the same company earning $250k+ easily.
I'm a 2nd year B Tech student. I understand that you might have given tests like GRE and stuff. But what all in your achievements do you think should be there in order to get into prestigious colleges like yours. Guide me because I have 3 years of college and I can work it out