Rio Bravo balances the epic hero flavor of the Western with the revisionist, psychological, internal conflict of alcoholism in such a way that you could almost miss how fun the songs and gunfights are.
One of the greatest Westerns ever. Howard Hawks/John Wayne at their best. If you're a fan of John Carpenter's films, you'll definitely notice the influence Rio Bravo (and Hawks' filmography as a whole) had on Carpenter.
The way Gary knocks the window out with his gun at the start of The Thing always recalled western for me...I can definitely see other elements in that movie that come from westerns, too. And then The Hateful Eight brought it full-circle with a western with cues (and music) taken from The Thing.
Y'know, I was never a big John Wayne fan, and the casting of this movie sounds kinda ridiculous if you think too long about it, but this really _is_ a fantastic movie. On paper, it shouldn't work, but onscreen, it does beautifully.
eh I am not sure...the biggest flaw in Assault on Precinct 13 was the budget and Carpenter's relative inexperience, it didn't do well as a movie to rate for.
@@m1lst3r89 Your mileage may vary, of course. For me, the low budget and Carpenter's inexperience lent the film a rawness that suited the characters amd story very well.
Better than The Searchers imo. I certainly prefer it as a Western anyway. I know The Searchers is considered one of those revered classics that everyone is supposed to say they love but l just don't personally, even as a big Western fan.
They're certainly two different types of westerns and two different overall visions of the west. I personally like both. The problem is, people that don't know the Western genre very well, tend to brush off Rio Bravo as a "typical western" without watching it to see it's quite nuanced as John Carpenter pointed out. And without knowing Howard Hawks' contributions to cinema as a whole. You get the constant "they wore white hats and clean clothes" stereotype that's been repeated by countless video essays when they're hyping up Spaghetti westerns so it seems that in modern times the ultimate counter to that has been to bring up The Searchers, where John Wayne is quite clearly an anti-hero and not a "clean-cut white hat" that people that don't watch pre-Spaghetti Westerns seem to think every protagonist was(also completely ignoring Anthony Mann & Budd Boetticher and the fact that these directors had to work under the Hays Code and still got their darker Western visions put to film). I completely understand your point though. I like both Rio Bravo and The Searchers, and John Ford and Howard Hawks' films in general. I also like Sergio Leone and Sergio Corbucci's films a lot as well. I think the trick is to get people to understand the differences in directorial visions that the Directors had of the Old West, and realize they were more layered than some uninformed video essays by the likes of HyperDrive and Jack's Movie Reviews have led them to believe. You start to appreciate the Western genre as a whole much more after that. Just my take, I'm also a huge Western fan(and Jean-Pierre Melville fan, lol).
I think The Searchers does drag at times but it's still a great movie and probably Wayne's best performance. My favorite Wayne movies are The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance, The Cowboys and Rio Bravo.
@@VictorMaxol yessir. Ricky nelson was great! but in a kind of token kinda way…but James Caan is a true acting icon. Same with Mitchum vs Martin. In fact, The babe in El Dorado is even hotter than Angie Dickinson but she didn’t seem to have as much to contribute. I dunno theyre both great though
My comment disapeared before this one? So again i just re-watched a movie that never gets talked about. DIGGSTOWN if your a boxing fan and wanna see James Woods and Louis Gossett jr. along with oliver platt in a very underrated flick. Go watch!
Because of Wayne and Howard Hawks having objections to it? I have to say, over the years, I've come to have some of the same issues they had with it. Not politically.....I'm more on the political spectrum as those who wrote High Noon....but purely as a believable story. I think Wayne pointed out....the people in that town would have came from pretty tough stock given where they were and the time setting of the film in U.S. history. The idea a whole town would be that terrified of three men gets tough to get around. If you want a "High Noon" type scenario, I think it's pulled off better from a believability standpoint in the sci-fi film Outland with Sean Connery. Those guys his lawman was dealing with were sent by higher powers....meaning there was a possibility they could keep coming....giving much more reason to be hesitant to help. In High Noon it was like three invidual criminals.
Don't share the love Carpenter, Hill, Scorsese, Godard have for Rio Bravo though it has great set pieces in it. Per Hawks/Wayne I'm more about Red River, not into hanging with The Duke whether it be Rio Bravo or Hatari. I'm also more about High Noon and Coop though I get Hawks' objections. Dino epiphany "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" a highlight. A bit cringe Wayne and Angie doing their sanitized Bogey and Bacall. James Caan in El Dorado leaps and bounds above non-actor Ricky Nelson.
Rio Bravo balances the epic hero flavor of the Western with the revisionist, psychological, internal conflict of alcoholism in such a way that you could almost miss how fun the songs and gunfights are.
It is most definitely one of the best films I have ever seen.
One of the greatest Westerns ever. Howard Hawks/John Wayne at their best. If you're a fan of John Carpenter's films, you'll definitely notice the influence Rio Bravo (and Hawks' filmography as a whole) had on Carpenter.
Carpenter actually recorded a commentary for this movie that is available on the new 4k release!
somebody upload this, please!!!
Carpenter’s favorite director.
I believe it is on my old DVD too.
The way Gary knocks the window out with his gun at the start of The Thing always recalled western for me...I can definitely see other elements in that movie that come from westerns, too. And then The Hateful Eight brought it full-circle with a western with cues (and music) taken from The Thing.
Assault on Precinct 13 is a tribute to Rio Bravo
I love Rio Bravo, it even ends with a cowboy song.
It is a great film.
Great movie, love the characters and met be my favorite love story in a Wayne movie. He had great chemistry with Angie.
Y'know, I was never a big John Wayne fan, and the casting of this movie sounds kinda ridiculous if you think too long about it, but this really _is_ a fantastic movie. On paper, it shouldn't work, but onscreen, it does beautifully.
Howard Hawks was a legend, but I honestly have to give it to Carpenter here: I think he outdid Hawks when he made Assault on Precinct 13.
eh I am not sure...the biggest flaw in Assault on Precinct 13 was the budget and Carpenter's relative inexperience, it didn't do well as a movie to rate for.
@@m1lst3r89 Your mileage may vary, of course. For me, the low budget and Carpenter's inexperience lent the film a rawness that suited the characters amd story very well.
Better than The Searchers imo. I certainly prefer it as a Western anyway. I know The Searchers is considered one of those revered classics that everyone is supposed to say they love but l just don't personally, even as a big Western fan.
They're certainly two different types of westerns and two different overall visions of the west. I personally like both.
The problem is, people that don't know the Western genre very well, tend to brush off Rio Bravo as a "typical western" without watching it to see it's quite nuanced as John Carpenter pointed out. And without knowing Howard Hawks' contributions to cinema as a whole. You get the constant "they wore white hats and clean clothes" stereotype that's been repeated by countless video essays when they're hyping up Spaghetti westerns so it seems that in modern times the ultimate counter to that has been to bring up The Searchers, where John Wayne is quite clearly an anti-hero and not a "clean-cut white hat" that people that don't watch pre-Spaghetti Westerns seem to think every protagonist was(also completely ignoring Anthony Mann & Budd Boetticher and the fact that these directors had to work under the Hays Code and still got their darker Western visions put to film).
I completely understand your point though. I like both Rio Bravo and The Searchers, and John Ford and Howard Hawks' films in general. I also like Sergio Leone and Sergio Corbucci's films a lot as well. I think the trick is to get people to understand the differences in directorial visions that the Directors had of the Old West, and realize they were more layered than some uninformed video essays by the likes of HyperDrive and Jack's Movie Reviews have led them to believe. You start to appreciate the Western genre as a whole much more after that. Just my take, I'm also a huge Western fan(and Jean-Pierre Melville fan, lol).
My dad LOVES The Searchers it definitely is a renowned film; I’m a Liberty Valance/ Wild Bunch guy myself.
I think The Searchers does drag at times but it's still a great movie and probably Wayne's best performance. My favorite Wayne movies are The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance, The Cowboys and Rio Bravo.
The best part is the beginning when you’re not expecting John Wayne to get knocked on his ass in the first 5 minutes XD; I was shocked !!!
Great film, but El Dorado is a tad better, imo and The Searchers is another level altogether
I put Rio Bravo above El Dorado but both great movies. Sadly, Rio Lobo is terrible.
Would love to hear his thoughts on “El Dorado” - in my opinion, the better film
I like El Dorado a bit more
James Caan is slightly better cast than Ricky Nelson.
@@VictorMaxol yessir. Ricky nelson was great! but in a kind of token kinda way…but James Caan is a true acting icon. Same with Mitchum vs Martin. In fact, The babe in El Dorado is even hotter than Angie Dickinson but she didn’t seem to have as much to contribute. I dunno theyre both great though
My comment disapeared before this one? So again i just re-watched a movie that never gets talked about. DIGGSTOWN if your a boxing fan and wanna see James Woods and Louis Gossett jr. along with oliver platt in a very underrated flick. Go watch!
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I'm curious if John Carpenter has antagonistic feelings toward High Noon.
Because of Wayne and Howard Hawks having objections to it? I have to say, over the years, I've come to have some of the same issues they had with it. Not politically.....I'm more on the political spectrum as those who wrote High Noon....but purely as a believable story. I think Wayne pointed out....the people in that town would have came from pretty tough stock given where they were and the time setting of the film in U.S. history. The idea a whole town would be that terrified of three men gets tough to get around. If you want a "High Noon" type scenario, I think it's pulled off better from a believability standpoint in the sci-fi film Outland with Sean Connery. Those guys his lawman was dealing with were sent by higher powers....meaning there was a possibility they could keep coming....giving much more reason to be hesitant to help. In High Noon it was like three invidual criminals.
John Carpenter on Pixar?
Cohn Jarpenter has lots to say
Don't share the love Carpenter, Hill, Scorsese, Godard have for Rio Bravo though it has great set pieces in it. Per Hawks/Wayne I'm more about Red River, not into hanging with The Duke whether it be Rio Bravo or Hatari. I'm also more about High Noon and Coop though I get Hawks' objections. Dino epiphany "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" a highlight. A bit cringe Wayne and Angie doing their sanitized Bogey and Bacall. James Caan in El Dorado leaps and bounds above non-actor Ricky Nelson.
Red river is excellent, as of now my favorite John Wayne and Hawks movie.
Rio Bravo's only serious flaw was casting John Wayne.
Actual film criticism, or nonsensical ramblings from a woke pussy squirt?
Duke Wayne is America at its finest. Like it or get the fuck out.