I think that is overstaing it a tad. Firstly, The Cats had only just beaten the Hawks during the season. The Hawk's finals form had been irresistable, whereas the Cats struggled against the Dogs, and were carrying a number of injured players. If you have forgotten, many AFL pundits tipped the Hawks to win. Yes, It was a big upset, but not to the level you are impying.
@@garfield4523No, you're totally wrong. It's probably one of the biggest upsets ever. That's rarely happened where a team had 4 less "home and away" wins than their GF opponent and won, and the fact Geelong were 23-1 in 08 coming into that game and had won 42 out of their past 44 games. Not even 1998/2016 premiers The Crows or The Bulldogs had such an opponent. North Melbourne were a worse of team in 1998 with 16-6 record, and had a closer 3 more "home and away" wins than The Crows. Bulldogs had only 2 less home and away wins compared to Sydney, Sydney's record was 17-5 compared to The Bulldogs 15-7. Also, your other point The Cats won very comfortably by 29 points against The Dogs, leading at every change, and I don't know if I call 11 points "just" when Geelong again led at every change against Hawthorn. There wasn't a 50/50 contest in those games you're portraying as.
Geelong were the shortest priced favourites on a GF for years. No one gave my Hawks a chance but heading to the MCG Hawthorn folks knew an upset was on. Geelong were cocky players and even cockier supporters. They thought that all they had to do was turn up and the Premiership Cup would be theirs. Then they ran into a side with a good mix of youth, skill, experiemce and x factor. Geelong played with almost twelve midfielders on the ground at all times. Though they were in half back, half fwd positions...they were all mids.Corey, Chapman, Ablett, Ling, Stokes, Bartel, Enright, Varcoe, Rook, Selwood, Kelly, Johnston....all mids. Hawthorn had traditional positional players who knew how to play their positions with a good core of centremen. And Geelong got the better of the umpiring 29-21 frees but three direct goals: one double 50m penalty to Gary Ablett for nothing. Honestly, watch it, putrid. The free and resulting 100 penalty was a load of shite. A free kick for a high tackle on G Ablett in the third qtr was paid as "Down the ground" when the ball had already been passed C Ling who was downfield about 5m. The idiot, clearly biased umps, gave "free kick, down field" to Steve Johnston about 25m from goal, directly in front. have the ball to The Sam Mitchell gave up his game to try and take Ling away from the ball. Sam usually racked up possies in the 30's and onky had 13. Ling was used to getting possies in the high 20s/low 30's amd only got 20. Hawthorns defensive team had a kicking efficiency over 85% for the match. Unheard of in a GF. The AFL were so gutless they changed a rule like scoring behinds as a defensive measure but have left in kicking the ball forward from outside fifty near to a fwd and it's not deliberate gain of territory....if it is paid a free kick ....why is it paid at the point where it crossed the line and not from where it was kicked? Because that is where the penalty took place. The AFL is a corrupt "CHARITY" organisation making billions each year and paying no tax off of our love of our teams and our passion for a once great sporting code. Teams like this Geelong team ruined footy by putting everyone of their midfielders on the ball at once in a huge maul like rugby. Ugly, boring and not very skilful. And the Victorian taxoauers foot the bill for their stasium upgrade when only one team plays there. Yep...money well spent to buy votes of the Cats supporters.
Geelong players were cocky? Can you give any examples, because I can’t remember any of that. My guess is you are making it up. No doubt there were some cocky Cat’s fans about, but many others (including myself) were extremely nervous and not confident at all about this game. We had only just beaten The Hawks during the year, were carrying a number of injuries into the game and had struggled against the Dogs the week before. On top of that, just the fact we were playing the Hawks made many of us very nervous. It’s widely acknowledged that Geelong brought back attacking and exciting football, after those extremely dour GFs between the Swans and Eagles. You are clearly a one-eyed Hawk’s man, but to carry on about Geelong about turning the game into a rugby maul and ruining footy is absurd, because it is the complete opposite of what happened. Don’t know why you just can’t be happy with the premiership and feel the need to kick the boot into everything to do with Geelong 15 years later. Honestly don’t get it.
The decision against Jimmy Bartel at 15.28 is one of the worst I've seen in a Grand Final. I look and still can't figure it out. Should have always been the other way. It also shows how the umpires ignored the illegal tactics by the Hawks especially by Sam Mitchell who used Guantanemo techniques on Gary Ablett that day and incredible that Gaz stlll had such an impact. At least the Hawks tactics of continually rushing the ball behind contributed to a rule change.
Seeing the use of the "rush behind" strategy is so strange compared to how the game is played today.
You mean cheating
7 hope you can watch this?
Haha well this definitely changed things.
Thanks hawks. We'll go again and watch this space.
How did Dew not win the Norm Smith?!
Was this the greatest upset in grand final history? Geelong lost only one game all season, correct?
Collingwood only team to beat them in home and away season before grand final
How did dew miss out on the norm smith
my fav grand final, david vs goliath
I think that is overstaing it a tad. Firstly, The Cats had only just beaten the Hawks during the season. The Hawk's finals form had been irresistable, whereas the Cats struggled against the Dogs, and were carrying a number of injured players. If you have forgotten, many AFL pundits tipped the Hawks to win. Yes, It was a big upset, but not to the level you are impying.
@@garfield4523No, you're totally wrong. It's probably one of the biggest upsets ever. That's rarely happened where a team had 4 less "home and away" wins than their GF opponent and won, and the fact Geelong were 23-1 in 08 coming into that game and had won 42 out of their past 44 games. Not even 1998/2016 premiers The Crows or The Bulldogs had such an opponent. North Melbourne were a worse of team in 1998 with 16-6 record, and had a closer 3 more "home and away" wins than The Crows. Bulldogs had only 2 less home and away wins compared to Sydney, Sydney's record was 17-5 compared to The Bulldogs 15-7. Also, your other point The Cats won very comfortably by 29 points against The Dogs, leading at every change, and I don't know if I call 11 points "just" when Geelong again led at every change against Hawthorn. There wasn't a 50/50 contest in those games you're portraying as.
Did this just get un privated?
Think so
This game is what started Kenett curse
Oh well, Hawthorn would take the premiership then lose 12 straight home and away games to cats. Besides Hawks got em in the 2013 preliminary
Geelong were the shortest priced favourites on a GF for years. No one gave my Hawks a chance but heading to the MCG Hawthorn folks knew an upset was on. Geelong were cocky players and even cockier supporters. They thought that all they had to do was turn up and the Premiership Cup would be theirs. Then they ran into a side with a good mix of youth, skill, experiemce and x factor. Geelong played with almost twelve midfielders on the ground at all times. Though they were in half back, half fwd positions...they were all mids.Corey, Chapman, Ablett, Ling, Stokes, Bartel, Enright, Varcoe, Rook, Selwood, Kelly, Johnston....all mids. Hawthorn had traditional positional players who knew how to play their positions with a good core of centremen. And Geelong got the better of the umpiring 29-21 frees but three direct goals: one double 50m penalty to Gary Ablett for nothing. Honestly, watch it, putrid. The free and resulting 100 penalty was a load of shite. A free kick for a high tackle on G Ablett in the third qtr was paid as "Down the ground" when the ball had already been passed C Ling who was downfield about 5m. The idiot, clearly biased umps, gave "free kick, down field" to Steve Johnston about 25m from goal, directly in front. have the ball to The Sam Mitchell gave up his game to try and take Ling away from the ball. Sam usually racked up possies in the 30's and onky had 13. Ling was used to getting possies in the high 20s/low 30's amd only got 20.
Hawthorns defensive team had a kicking efficiency over 85% for the match. Unheard of in a GF. The AFL were so gutless they changed a rule like scoring behinds as a defensive measure but have left in kicking the ball forward from outside fifty near to a fwd and it's not deliberate gain of territory....if it is paid a free kick ....why is it paid at the point where it crossed the line and not from where it was kicked? Because that is where the penalty took place. The AFL is a corrupt "CHARITY" organisation making billions each year and paying no tax off of our love of our teams and our passion for a once great sporting code. Teams like this Geelong team ruined footy by putting everyone of their midfielders on the ball at once in a huge maul like rugby. Ugly, boring and not very skilful. And the Victorian taxoauers foot the bill for their stasium upgrade when only one team plays there. Yep...money well spent to buy votes of the Cats supporters.
Geelong players were cocky? Can you give any examples, because I can’t remember any of that. My guess is you are making it up.
No doubt there were some cocky Cat’s fans about, but many others (including myself) were extremely nervous and not confident at all about this game. We had only just beaten The Hawks during the year, were carrying a number of injuries into the game and had struggled against the Dogs the week before. On top of that, just the fact we were playing the Hawks made many of us very nervous.
It’s widely acknowledged that Geelong brought back attacking and exciting football, after those extremely dour GFs between the Swans and Eagles. You are clearly a one-eyed Hawk’s man, but to carry on about Geelong about turning the game into a rugby maul and ruining footy is absurd, because it is the complete opposite of what happened.
Don’t know why you just can’t be happy with the premiership and feel the need to kick the boot into everything to do with Geelong 15 years later. Honestly don’t get it.
@@garfield4523don't be sour mate, move on. The hawthorn legacy rightly overshadows the Geelong era. 3 in a row.
you cheated mate as simple as that
11.23 jeez Geelong lost that game on themself cats should of won this game over 10 goals but they played like pizza in a pan
Hawks should always have won it! 💛🤎
@@Da_SpongeGun nah Geelong lost it there a big difference
@@Da_SpongeGun you wont even born in 2008 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dkb2080 yes I was and I doubt you were judging by your grammar lol
@@Da_SpongeGun its youtube not school i talk how i want if u dont like it dont came under my post
The decision against Jimmy Bartel at 15.28 is one of the worst I've seen in a Grand Final. I look and still can't figure it out. Should have always been the other way. It also shows how the umpires ignored the illegal tactics by the Hawks especially by Sam Mitchell who used Guantanemo techniques on Gary Ablett that day and incredible that Gaz stlll had such an impact. At least the Hawks tactics of continually rushing the ball behind contributed to a rule change.
15 years and you're still can't accept the loss? Pathetic...
He dragged the hawthorn player down. 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
The hawk literally had his hands in the air.
Cry more.
You can clearly see he was holding the Hawthorne players jumper, Leigh literally said it was a good decision
That was one of the umpires’ better calls🤣 If you can’t see the Geelong player pulling Williams to the ground, look again.
Umpires are so much of the grift of big time outcomes, its NOT funny.
Turned it off at the indigenous BS at the start.
Ok Boomer
@@Barto0482 enjoy your boosters btch.
Racist