House of the Dragon Season 2 Episode 4 'The Red Dragon and the Gold' REACTION | Game of Thrones
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- As Rhaenyra makes sure there is no other way to end this conflict but war, dragons flew, and the dance begun. Here's Nikki & Steven's reaction to season 2, episode 4 of House of the Dragon, The Red Dragon and the Gold.
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Rhaenys knew her injured dragon couldn’t outfly Vhagar back to Dragon stone. She decided to go out fighting instead of running.
@@surfntrucks apparently no,Meleys is the fastest dragon during the dance of dragons.
I love that they are keeping that catspaw dagger as a prominent prop for the story. I would love to read it's origin story. It was passed down from Aenar (the one who left Valyria just before the doom) and found it's way to Aegon the Conqueror who had the premonition of the fight with the Night King. I'm guessing someone told him the story of "The Song of Ice and Fire" and he was convinced he was the prince who was promised. (But it was Jon Snow)
No worries .Daemon will take revenge for team black...
FYI Vhagar is a girl. She’s known as The Queen of all Dragons
the goodbye-look between Meleys and Rhaenys before they died… i’ll never be ok
I took it as Meleys being like “I’m sorry I couldn’t protect. I did my best”.
@@kristymcdowell6185 totally agree 😭
Meleys: "We ride together . . ."
Rhaenys: " . . .we die together."
@@darthken815 i’m soooooooo broken
oh yeah they know exactly how to get to us
Rhaenys is a big loss. Not just because of Meleys, but Rhaenys’ levelheaded, steady and loyal council. RIP to the Queen Who Should Have Been.
She is for sure but Aegon being dead/maimed and Sunfyre basically dead/handicapped is a huge loss as well. The greens lost so much for a castle that isn’t all that important.
@@jphart9896 pour salt in the wound, geez.
@@jphart9896 lmao at you posting this on multiple comments of people that like rhaenys trying to get a rise out of people 😂 so petty 😂
@@jphart9896yeah no one’s buying ur little rage bait buddy settle down 😂
@@danno1375 True, but she did that to herself. She has nobody to blame but herself.
Aegon got more affection from that headbob from Sunfyre than he ever got from either of his parents. The smile he had on his face when Sunfyre gave him that headbob shows everything.
@@srichardf their bond is one of the best
@@gailf1617 I wish I would have seen that, too. It looked like Sunfyre really loved him, and he really loved Sunfyre. He should have taken his dragon and just left this sh!hole and live happily somewhere else
Or he just do "nothing" :v
His dragon and his first kid gave him happiness.
@@agirlnamedsilkas if he could survive.
Dragons fighting dragons while Daemon is busy fighting his demons lol
😂😂😂
It's such a great subversion. Daemon is the first to fly out for war and now he ends up stuck fighting hallucinations while everyone else is putting in work on the battlefield.
His turn will come, and it'll be 100% worth it.
@@fromheaventoearth5779Literally what an absolute unit.
Being useless like usual nothing new
Aegon actually being eager to fight in the battle field without experience shows he is in no way like joffrey, he's just desperate for attention from his mother and everyone else,now more than ever. Also,sunfyre and his bond is just so beautiful 😭 thats his best boy
@@zawa7497 100% I feel like thrones fans want another joffrey to hate but that character really isn't Aegon. For all his faults nobody can ever accuse Aegon of being a coward.
@@RobertSawney exactly,he's just a needy dude who was never taught how to rule. He never even wanted the throne
@@RobertSawney W comments
@@zawa7497Funny enough that "joffrey" type of character is actually cole. I Found alicent kinda annoying in their conversation. Girl you put him on a throne he didn't want with no preparation how did you think it was gonna turn out
@@RobertSawneyI dont think cole and Joffrey are comparable but the hate they get sure is. And yes,alicent was annoying this ep
The way Meleys looked back at Rhaenys as she died.
Also, Aegon barely being able to speak Valyrian was hilarious, perfectly exemplifying his lack of work ethic.
Even when he's riding his dragon he speaks the common tongue baby Luke could speak better valyrean then aegon.
@@Cadinho93 Meleys : mom?.. I’m sorry..
Perfectly exemplifies his mother's lack of teaching him and her retardedness dude didn't wanna be king to begin with 🙃
Hmm no.
@@thatoneblackdude3333definitely not😂
These dragon deaths are going to destroy me. The way Meleys and Rhaenys look at each other at the end 😭 Also Sunfyre doing everything in his ability to try and protect Aegon. He tried to shield Aegon from the fire, then turn his body while falling so he didn’t land on his back, and curling himself around Aegon on the ground.
they both didnt die
@@mirceadacialorantbrescia4340 but so injured
@@BFG100 and?
@@christophermichael7997 i was hoping that the dragons say f that shit we are leaving 😭
That felt very much like the relationship between Hiccup and Toothless in HTTYD to me
The shot of the boiling hot dragon blood falling onto the soldiers and coating them in their armour was really a nice touch. Not only does it reinforce how magical these beasts truly are but it also shows how the common men fighting on the ground are always caught in the crossfire when these hubristic Gods fight.
Rhaenys was born on the 7th day of the 7th moon and died today, July 7th.
RIP Rhaenys😢
Really? Great. Thanks for making me cry more! 😭
I cried when they both died ❤
Team Aemond!
Thala for a reason
Good riddance
I knew what was coming for Rhaenys and Meleys so I was immediately in tears the second Rhaenys rested her forehead on Meleys before leaving for battle. Such beautiful acting by Eve Best and they animated Meleys perfectly to match Eve's acting choices. Meleys and Rhaenys have been together for over 40 years, and they captured their bond so beautifully. That look Meleys gives Rhaenys as she's dying was SO devastating. I will miss them both so much
@@heyitslisa_ 💔 😔 and what they do to Meyles in the next episode is revolting and grotesque.
That was one hell of a death. Went out like a true dragon rider. And then there’s me naïvely thinking you could’ve gotten away!
@@madelinegarber7860 she absolutely COULD have gotten away. She had the fastest dragon.
That being said if she retreated to dragonstone Vhagar likely just follows her and gets a easy shot at killing the dragons on dragonstone
@@Splishy27 that’s fair. Though I thoght initially that she was leaving. Also the opportunity to rid the greens of their biggest dragon was too good to miss. She quite literally went out in a blaze of glory.
Imagine if she just cooked the Greens while she had the chance. Rhaenyra would be sitting on the throne and Lucerys would be alive. And then in episode 01 of this season, she refuses to ride with Daemon to kill Vhagar. And now she dies because of it. Rhaenys might be the dumbest character on the show.
Aegon and sunfyre love each other so much😭💚💚
Then why does he suck at riding him so badly that TGC seemed like mad they made him have to be so bad. It’s a weird switch because the only reason they bullied Aemond is because the other 3 boys had dragons so they bonded over dragons and aemond was just tagging along to their lessons but apparently Aegon didn’t learn how to ride a dragon properly yet riding white often in the books. I’m not a greens fan in any way but I think they did this to further make Aemond look like the actual Targaryen because they’ve been painting Aegon as Viserys and Aemond as Daemon so they couldn’t have Aegon be better at it than Aemond despite him having the largest dragon and being smarter and the superior warrior. Not the mention luckier… I’m sure the ‘Aemond wives
‘ will be thrilled and blame his sucky skills on Rhaenyra
@@Zarab923I think Aegon legitimately never expected to take a dragon to war bc he grew up in a time of peace when he was a kid. He just never thought it’d ever get to this point. Aemond wasn’t an heir so he knew he needed to prove himself (esp after taking Vhagar) as a dragon rider. Aegon never took anything seriously and they just let him be that way growing up and then they’re shocked he doesn’t know how to do anything.
What breaks my heart is the resignation in Rhaenys' voice when she tells Meleys to attack. She was the loudest advocate for peace and yet she was the first to volunteer. A true Targaryen who died an honorable dragon rider's death.
It's been suggested that Rhaenys was somewhat sui*idal because, on top of losing her two kids and a 'grandson', she just found out that Corlys cheated on her and has a illegitimate son. At that point, it's possible that Rhaenys couldn't take the pain of heartbreak and betrayal anymore. But wanted to die in a way that would be considered honorable and worthy of the Targaryen name.
It was rough even knowing what was coming.
I knew Rhaenys but I didn’t know Aston would fight too. This battle surpassed my expectations.
@@paulhewes7333 definitely! I felt sorry for Sunfyre, Maelys and Rhaenys
@@paulhewes7333 I cried too
@quanchi3723 it was painful to watch. I was angry when she turned and said, "Attack Maelys" I'm saying no just fly away, hide, it's not worth doing more, just get your dragon out of there. P,ut her life above it all! Then bam, they were at the mercy 🥺 of Vegar and Aemond 😪
@@lovesomeone7285 Dragonriders aren’t to be cowards when battle arrives you fight, die in battle is the highest honor
Rhaenys going back again and again got me so emotional. Her and Meleys death gutted me. 😢
she just went on self-off mission with Vaghar
@@fantasiazplatkamiVhagar is the biggest threat to TB. After the Dragonpit event, she likely felt a sense of duty to stay and do what she could to protect her family and side.
Yeah si knew she was not going to go but there I was yelling at her to go away just gooo 😢
I don't think she can escape from Vhagar. Vhagar biger and faster more than Meley too much. So just fight to die, can't run.
@@ViHa-yh4ed actually meleys was a very fast dragon if not the fastest so she could’ve outrun vhagar cause she also very old the point being I knew Rhaenys would’ve never run from that fight
I was sobbing at the death of rhaenys and meleys
Dragons are so loyal like dogs loyal to a fault meleys fully accepted dying wit her rider.
RIP THE QUEEN WHO NEVER WAS AND MELEYS THE RED QUEEN
@@osky529 I wish all the dragons would wise up and fly away from the green and the blacks and save themselves from this madness.
I still can't believe Vhagar has all it's teeth intact all these years and chew down melys throat.
@@lovesomeone7285 yeah unfortunately targaryens are all they've known their lives
(Except for the cannibal he got sick and tired of the targaryens and flew away to his cave and just wants to be left alone hope we get to see him in the show)
Daemon suggested that meleys and caraxes should be together when they faced vhagar. This thus shows that Daemon is very crucial to the battlefield.
Absolutely. His experience on the battlefield is significant.
Both sides fighting with dragons while Daemon is having hallucinations like he's Ethan in that Resident Evil 7 swamp house 😭😭😭😭
Deamon fighting his own battles 😂
Daemon took too many edibles
He’s fighting his own demons😭
it just hinders the action, i fast forward
@@RoxanaGpFighting his own daemons
Losing Rhaenys is devastating both in the story and the show as a whole. Eve Best was one of the greatest parts of this show and I'm truly gonna miss her.
fr she was the best! it's gonna be weird not seeing her again :(
She was one of the worst characters and I felt nothing for her death. I felt more for the dragon's death.
Hats off to Rhaenys, the Queen who never was, that went out like a G. She's a true dragon blood. 👏
Rhaenys is still grieving the loss of two children. Plus, the betrayal of her husband. With all this, she still did her duty. Such a great character, she'll be missed.
Betrayal of her husband??
@@amaebarnes his bastard offspring.
She came off as knowing about that and being long over it. He's a sailor, she knows what young sailors are like and doesn't seem to hold it against him.
*With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe.* - Fire and Blood
i'm glad they understated it.
Freaking broke my heart!!!!
Rhaenys dies before she ever hits the ground. She and Meleys were together for 44 years. So long the Red Queen and the Queen Who Should've Been.
Nahh, she shouldn't have been queen. She killed thousands of small folk for no reason because she then didn't kill Aegon at his Coronation.
She rocked but the small folk send their regards
@@kittylemeu1373 She wouldn't have killed any smallfolk if the Greens hadn't held her hostage in King's Landing and then held a rushed coronation right above where all the living weapons of mass destruction lived.
@ade9499 she was also killed by her daughters dragon that also killed her "grandson"
@@kittylemeu1373 She wasn't going to leave without her dragon. She would have made a great queen, better than the other men who held the position.
@@melissagreye8445 she could have left the normal way? Not through the ground killing thousands of peasants? She's worm food now so we'll never know how good a ruler she would've been
Meleys is considered one of the swiftest dragons alive, she could of easily fled from Vhagar
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"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to flee. With a glad cry and a crack of her whip, she turned Meleys toward the foe"
"Beloved daughter of Lady Jocelyn Baratheon and Prince Aemon Targaryen, faithful wife to Lord Corlys Velaryon, mother and grandmother, the Queen Who Never Was lived fearlessly, and died amidst blood and fire..."
She was considered THE swiftest dragon alive
These dragons killing each other is more heartbreaking than the humans. Poor Arrax, Meleys, Sunfyre not you Vhagar, she can retire frfr.
RIP to the Queen Who Never Was, you're bravery will be remembered.
F Vhagar. I hate the dragon as much as the current rider.
So true Vhager is blahhhj
love Aemond and Vhagar, but im definitely not team green. Aemonds story is Tragic, just on the wrong side.
Vhagar is still the most interesting dragon out of all of them, given it's history.
Yes, remembered as a traitor who served maegor with teats. lol
Aemond really tried to commit fratricide with all the subtlety of a lead pipe.
He's trying to make himself a double kinslayer and a kingslayer.
Aemond is psychotic.
He actually did it pretty intelligently. Sunfyre is getting torn to shreds by Meleys so the only way Aegon could be saved is aggressive intervention from another dragon which is exactly what Aemond did. So he can pitch it as would you rather Aegon be dead or wounded?
@@philippeblais8594Attempted kinslaying and kingslanding.
@@gudhaxer41343 Emphasis on trying.
Alicent "do you think simply wearing the crown imbues you with wisdom?" Did YOU think crowning him would make him responsible?? She spent his whole life forcing him to be heir but didn't bother even once to instruct him
He didn't want to challenge Rhaenyra, he wanted to leave, he lost his son, he asked your advice, he was listening the council 90% of the time except ratcatchers - and now after 5 minutes of talking with you he starts drinking and leaves for suicide mission. Damn, I feel bad for Aegon.
She gave him council, sit back and let the smart people take command, he couldnt even do that. I swear to god, people are looking for reason to hate Alicent (yeah shes a bad mother)
i agree with this take 100% i’m team black but felt so bad to see him die when he wanted nothing to do with this from the beginning
@@spookyspooks33he is not dead
@@MrBuzzcake A few days after his son is murdered, she basically tells him he's worthless. That's not her offering council in good faith, that's her taking out her anger/frustration on Aegon.
@@MrBuzzcake I was defending Alicent for 2 years during the break, it's not my fault the writing of her character is do bad that she stopped making sense.
She knew his son died a few days ago and he wanted to prove himself. Telling him " do what's is expected from you : nothing" was super harsh and even the reactors were shocked.
She didn't do anything except complaining or betraying him ( let Rhaenyra leave). Not once she suggested how to win the war or make peace.
I'm not even mad at Alicent but at writers, she was different till episode 8
Cole’s death will be just as satisfying as Littlefinger.
I will cheer as loud as I did when Ramsay got mauled by his dogs
Littlefinger didn't have a satisfying death. The writing had gotten so bad by that point and LF was turned so stupid that there was no satisfaction from his death.
Starks 4life!
I don’t think I’ll ever emotionally recover from this episode. When Meleys looked back that final time, I broke down into hysterical sobs.
Nikki, I’m right there with you 🥺
And now the "Dance of The Dragons" truly begins
@@uBeezy there gonna be more epic dragon battles like this one this season? 👀
@@ivansantiago1615yeah theres much more epic dragons battles like this still coming, but idk if they would fit them this season or until next seasons
@@savoir12A thats sad, how many episodes does this season have? 8?
@@uBeezy dude it began when Jaehaerys was behead not before not after
@@ivansantiago1615 oh yes, and the best of them is going to include Daemon (obviously). After this episode I have faith that they will not screw up that fight. The ending of that battle will probably be THE most epic moment of both HotD and GoT.
Aegon is a lot of things but I dont think he is a coward. Unlike Joffrey😅
@@crisc1049 joffrey is worse . He can't be compared with anything.
I just find it insane people compare Aegon with Joffrey, like yeah Aegon isn't worthy and a piece of shit, but man he is better than Joffrey in every sense. And dude atleast has balls and can fight.
If Joffrey had a dragon he would rush to war too
Joffrey wasn't a coward, was a vicious and cruel kiddo but had the strenght to rule, the problem was his granpa Tywin, is a problem that Aegon and Joffrey share. For example Tommen was eaten and forced to the suicide by the same religious that Maegor burned like 400 years ago...
@@rajkumarn.t4581I would argue the one point Joffrey has against Aegon is that he isn’t a r*pist.
Huge praise to the practical and cgi effects work here. Never once did it undermine the emotional and dramatic impact of the show. Many other shows and movies would love to have this level of excellence. Hail to the whole crew! 👏👏👏👏👏
Me for 8 seasons of GoT and one season of HOTD: man I can't wait to see a dragon battle, this is gonna be sick!
Me 5 seconds into an actual dragon battle: I don't like this, make them stop!
Alicemt did NOT have any patience with Aegon with episode after firing Otto and her cramping after the tea. Though I find it funny how she & Otto are responisble for not preparing Aegon for the throne at all but still wanting him on it. They didn't care about him actually being king, they just wanted his butt to warm it while they rule.
BINGO!
@@Ashbrash1998 Otto and Alicent are the most dangerous people to the Targarean family. Otto using his daughter Alicent for his own needs and greed for power. Then Alicent misinterpreted what the King said while dying in bed. Put her reluctant and idiot son on the throne. It's gross that Alicent became a step mother to her best friend, turns on her then put her child on the throne. And to top that off she has Aegon marry and mate with his sister🤢. Otto & Alicent would be on the top of my hit list along with all the heirs. They should never been born into this mess.
Yup that's why I love aegon he didn't want to be king to begin with he had 0 teaching about how to be king no good teacher at all by his side idc what anyone says Otto is a horrible
Facts!
@@Ashbrash1998 no on will like this observation about Alicent. She is drinking tea that is aborting a child. But why? Why can't she keep her child? She's a widow, so she's not cheating, is it because of who the father is and she doesn't want it to be public info?
Omg Nikki's reaction to Rhaenys and Meley's final look before they died literally made me cry all over again 😭😭
@@keanancupido she is all of us! I couldn't stop crying as soon as Rhaenys had her pep talk moment before they left Dragonstone. So incredibly well done.
@@skumar93323 ahhh same!!! My anxiety started when she volunteered to go 😭
@keanancupido I was screaming SEND BAELA WITH HER but how could they have known 😭
@@skumar93323 If Baela and Jace were there they would have won easily 😭
@@BFG100 You're saying it's pathetic to share pain with the dragons? I don't think you like fiction then.
Willem Blackwood was the child who killed the Bracken when Rhaenyra was holding an audience for her suitors on Season 1
I BAWLED for over an HOUR after this episode! The final look between Melyes and Rhaenys WRECKED me.
I don't understand how Vhagar keeps sneak attacking other dragons considering how big she is. Probably due to battle experience. Anyway ima go cry now
This time because she hid behind a castle and cliff, presumably, and last time because of the clouds
That's exactly the reason... experience. Vhagar is ancient, and killed countless dragons. Look at large birds of prey, they often attack by surprise, even on smaller prey.
@@GreenFalcon926 exactly! Meleys had a good shot at atleast disabling Vhagar, but considering she'd just been grappling with Sunfyre and got caught unaware by Vhagar the first time it is no surprise this happened. Smart by Vhagar and Aemond to use the cliffside. I do think Caraxes and Meleys could have had a very solid shot at killing her, like Daemon said.
@@GreenFalcon926 she didn't killed countless dragons mate... at the time of the conquest she still was a young dragon, so its safe to assume she never fought a dragon by that time and the 7 kingdom didn't have dragons to fight too. She never fought other dragons before the dance of the dragons.
she fought countless battles, that she did, but she never fought other dragons before.
It's a little annoying how the show makes a big deal about Vhagar's size only to have every kill be a sneak attack.
I cried like a baby too...Rhaenys killed me in that episode
Meleys (silent voice): It's an honour...to die at your side.
Rhaenys: It's an honour...to have lived at yours. 😭
Oh stop! Literally ride together die together.
WHY DID YOU JUST MAKE ME CRY ALL OVER AGAIN?!?!?!
I was crying too! Beautiful choice by the director and animators to show the bond between R and the red queen. And Toms acting as aegon- amazing.
And some people were worried they wouldn't do the dragon fights justice. Lol this episode done shut those people up.
Except the writing makes no sense. In the books, Rhaenys didn't flee because she wanted to inflict some damage, she and aegon fell together. In the show, she already has beaten Aegon and just goes back just to die basically and she knew it as well. Lol
@@jbr6371 yeah i hate that
@@jbr6371 Yeah exactly, like she could've left and the greens would've been the only ones a dragon down.
@@jbr6371except she probably knew that Aemond was gonna follow her with Vhagar anyways so she might as well stand her ground and try to take out or at least attempt to seriously injure their biggest weapon. Even if there is a small chance. Big risk with big reward.
@@jbr6371 ikr? The whole time I kept thinking "omg, she took him down, maybe they're changing it and she can escape" but she kept going back for no reason. That was frustrating. She's smart, she must've known she can't take vhaegar alone
People also forget that she finally has clarification that Corlys wasn't honest with Rhaenys and that he had a hidden bastard the whole time and never told her. Her knowing this now kinda gave her resolved that she'll not run away and actually fight to the death because it's almost like she's betrayed by everyone but Rhaenyra. I dunno I guess that's how I saw it.
I didnt think of this but its true! Rhaenys was so loyal and i loved her.
I mean that ignores the whole "Rhaenyra might have killed my son" thing that happened. Rhaenys warmed up a bit to Rhaenyra but she's only in it for her granddaughters.
Rhaenyra betrayed her too. She's still the likely reason her son is dead (we know he isn't, but Rhaenys doesn't)
@@kailanerman5090I think Rhaenys knows that Rhaenyra had no part of Laenors supposed death but actually he just left Westeros to do his own thing, and Rhaenys knows it now.
@@schemeteam2954 I highly doubt she could have guessed all of that. She might put her faith in Rhaenyra as a monarch, but considering her quick marriage to Daemon and his... lack of morals.
I'm sure Rhaenys believes either he did it under her order, or he did it, and Rhaenyra just hasn't punished him for it.
I think she backs Rhaenyra 1) she trusts her over Aegon/the Greens 2) more importantly for the safety of her grandchildren
The background music during that entire fight sequence was sooo goood ! And the scene where Vhagar rises up after she fell down was chilling af
It was sad to see Rhaenys and her Meleys die, but it was clear that she knew this was a kamikaze mission. THIS is the "Dance of Dragons" of prophecy. She watched (and advised) Rhaenyra do EVERYTHING to avoid it. But when Rhae came back, Rhaenys knew it was on. Hers was the only war dragon present and she did not want her granddaughter to be the one to start the "Dance". The point of this whole thing is that war sucks. Everybody loses - even the winner.
She thought she likely would die, but in no way did she think it was a kamikaze mission. 30 seconds before she and Meyles took Vhagar down and likely would have won if not for Vhagar being crazy stealthy for some reason
Its important to know that when Rhaenys said it was their biggest dragon she meant available right now, Caraxes (Daemons Dragon) is slightly bigger than Melys but hes off at Harenhall having crazy visions.
Caraxes is longer, but likely weighs much less
Caraxes is flying spaghetti noodle though so probably breaks even with Melys when strengths and weaknesses are assessed. But I think they needed both to take down Vhagar in a 2:1.
Bro needs to come back from Luigi’s Mansion and get back in the game
Have we forgotten Vermithor?
@@Velshin1986 Vermithor is currently riderless
Steve: “are u okay”
Nickki: nooooo
my grandma asking me what i’m wathing and why i am crying
One thing to note about Coles plan is that he wasn’t sacrificing many of his own men. The very first wave that were sent out as cannon fodder were all sporting the sigils of the other houses he had added to his ranks. There were at least enough Targaryen forces at the end there to rally behind Gwayne to continue assaulting the castle.
That guy who saved Corly's life, who Rhaenys was acting all weird about, that's Corlys' bastard son. That's why she said "your mother must have been beautiful" so sorrowfully.
Aegon is like one of those people u don’t invite to a party but still manage to come and u are like what is he doing 😭
and just think about Meleys fighting vhagar while their previous rider were lover ( Baelon & Alyssa ) 🥲
The Dance is a tragedy, especially for the dragon's. Caraxes and Vhagar have a deep and closely nit history.
Vhagar and Caraxes were ridden together by brothers, then lovers, then enemies.
and this is just the first Dance… we’re not preppared
When Alicent was hammering Aegon I just wanted him to remind her that he didn't want to be king, and Viserys didn't either, because his father didn't like him and far as he knows his mother doesn't either.
It’s specially heartbreaking when you know the lore behind Meleys and Vhagar… their previous riders were Baelon and Alyssa Targaryen, parents of Viserys and Daemon Targaryen.
They were “inseparable” and whenever they weren’t in the bedroom they were in the skies flying. So they spent YEARS together to only end up going against each other in the end.
Omg that's literally heartbreaking
Vermithor is the next biggest dragon to Vhagar. Vermithor was the dragon Daemon was singing to last season. He was King Jaehaerys dragon and is currently unclaimed/riderless. (and FYI Balerion The Dread, the dragon that burned down Herenhal - was even bigger than Vhagar is.)
Rhaenyra just lost her Obi Won
From the Get-Go Rhaenys had the look of someone who knew she was going into something that she wasn't coming back from. and she was right. Aemond and Cole's whole plan was to bait out and kill one of Rhaenyra's dragons - but aegon showed up....
Who will be next to ride Vermithor in the books?
@@saroabd4437Hugh Hammer the blacksmith, he is a dragonseed..
@@darcypenn6702 ohh interesting 😮
@@saroabd4437 I'd rather not post spoilery information here.....Do you have a twitter/email/facebook? i'll answer any questions you have about the show
@@darcypenn6702 stop posting spoiler for fuck sake.
You immediately cried when dragon started to hurt eachother. I can see you like animals so much in real life. ❤️
There are ppl who loves their animals more than their kids so I'm not surprised.
@@schemeteam2954love them much more than random ppl
@@alexandrewatisse762 the dragons are innocent. It's not their fight. They are being forced into a war that is not theirs. I wish the dragon's love and loyalty wasn't so strong for their riders.
@@lovesomeone7285 Uh, well they were bred for war. And they being lizards probably do not form attachments the way mammals do.
@trottheblackdog I think it's sad. They have these incredible creatures, and they use them for war and total destruction, which in the end don't the dragons become extinct? And so does the full/pure blooded Targaryen family line once Jon Snow (half-blooded Targaryen) kills Daenerys?
23:35 I‘m sorry how is he supposed to take that as a learning experience? It’s his own mother basically saying "You‘re a useless piece of shit.“ This is literally why he is the way he is.
His family has no consideration for him at all, that sucks
She's not wrong.
It’s true he is so neglected both by his father and his mother shows no emotional support ever, i know she loves her kids but she’s still not there for them, only ever has been for Aemond and he’s still a shitbag. (Talking bout the sons and not Heleana cuz i love her and Alicent has actually shown her much support)
em, just sit there and listen? Ask questions? I mean this is war, there is a lot to be learned from the most experienced politicians and strategists in the realm. Instead he just constantly whines that nobody consults him on matters he doesn't know the first thing about, and throws temper tantrums at people who are actually trying to do their job and keep his sorry ass on that throne he has no right for.
The most constructive criticism is usually going to seem harsh, especially if true. You can take it as “you’re a useless piece of shit” or your can take it as “you’re young and you have a group of people here to support you who have lots of experience, use it”. Aegon literally sits there playing with a ball and calls his entire council boring. If he cared he’d be more engaged and willing to learn because he is young and has lots to learn.
There’s a reason Targaryen’s were thought to be extinct by GOT. Once dragons got involved, there was no winner at the end
fuckin’ Aemond… i feel very bad for Sunfyre and a little sorry for Aegon, Aemond is the craziest
Aegon deserved it. He really acted like he and Aemond were still kids. Couldn't read a damn room to save his life. Fucked around and found out. Aemond was done with him.
@@cfinley81 They are still kids. Kids with the world's crappiest mother who makes her every life choice by her nethers. I can't wait to see her eliminated. EVERY death is on her.
@@cfinley81 naah aemond is just a pathetic loser, the dumbest person on this show and a traitor
@@cfinley81 So he deserves painful death for "acting like he was still a kid"? Most empathetic HotD fan be like:
@@bruhmcmoment196 it's a fictional show. Don't take things so seriously.
Rip the queen that never was Rhaenys 😢😢😢
"Princess Rhaenys made no attempt to escape. With a proud shout and the sting of her whip, she directed Melis towards the enemy. The faithful wife, mother and grandmother, the queen who never was, and she died in blood and fire at the age of fifty-five."💔💔💔💔😞😞
More like the queen who should be!
When you realise that Meleys and Vhagar are the dragons of Daemon and Visery's parents, makes it even more tragic
Vhagar was the dragon of the original Rhaenys, Aegon the Conqueror’s sister wife.
@@ManInBlack1988 visenya had vhagar, rhaenys had meraxes
@@davidderidder1610 ohhh ok, i knew it was one of the sister wives.
Yep, they were both ridden by Baelon and his wife Alyssa, very tragic
@@ManInBlack1988 and ? That’s not the question here
My thoughts: Rhaeny’s had to protect that castle at all costs because of the strategic location it holds thus the Queen’s decision to send their strongest piece available in absence of Daemon. If Cole controlled it means they would have (correct me if I’m wrong) Dragonstone surrounded, strengthening Green’s position and weakining Black’s; possible checkmate scenario. If she fled, she would have lost the castle plus her chance of killing Aemond/Vhagar and Cole (removing the 2 strongest pieces on the board). From chess standpoint, it was a calculated risky move but considering the options, I would have taken it since the payoff is ending Cole and Aemond in one move and ending the war.
Another thing to consider is that if they moved ships ot floew a dragon nearby they could get their movements reported.
The castle holds little strategic value, Rhaenyra even does a double take when they discuss it at the council. She died there simply because the story is written that way (you could argue that she thought she was done for or that she thought she could take out Vheagar)
Another thing: Rhaenyra sending a dragon was necessary. Assuming Aemond was not there, a dragon from the Black's could have secured the castle almost effortlessly. Not only that, but this was a pivotal moment to show the rest of Rhaenyra's supporters, declared or indecisive, that she will back them up. If the support was not there, neither would morale, and that would make the rest of the realm bend the knee to the Greens so much more easily.
Rhaenys knew she had to fully commit to this effort. The moment she saw Sunfire, she knew she had to end its rider and destroy as much as Cole's forces as possible before leaving. Then, seeing Aemond and Vhagar, she realized that there was no leaving this fight. This was her final stand.
@@cos0 Assuming Aemond is not there is really stupid, I know the show pays it no mind, but you should assume or atleast plan for that
@MrBuzzcake I don't think it's stupid. Rook's castle (or whatever it's called) is small and easily vulnerable to seige by Cole's army alone. I don't think it's wise to send one of Green's dragons when the army can win already. Not to mention, specifically, Vhagar being there would be so out of question to the Black's. Vhagar out of King's Landing would leave Aegon vulnerable as well as the rest of the Royal family, the council, and many lords who support and aid the war effort in King Aegon's name. Not to mention, it's the capital of the realm. Conquering King's Landing, the Green's home base, is essentially winning the war for the Black's. You'd have control of their smith's, trade routes, laborers, and you'd have many lords at your mercy.
It is not stupid to assume Vhagar should not be with Cole's army, considering all they could lose. It just so happened that Aemond considered that risk trade off and still went with it. This was to mitigate army losses. Baiting one of Black's dragons is just a possibility after that. One, heavily in the Green's favor, but if Vhagar had come out mortally wounded, then war over. Aemond and Cole banked off the probabilities. They happened to win. Though we do not know the extent to which Vhagar is hurt because of this fight.
One final thought. If you're going to go about this war, you'd have to assume around every corner and every moment that you wish to go about, Vhagar will be there to combat you. We agree on that. But just because there is always the possibility of Vhagar being there, that doesn't mean you allow her and her rider to paralyze you from participating in this war effort.
Steven's facial expressions as the dragon's claws tear into the other dragon's is EXACTLY everyone else's reaction. OH... SHIT... it's hard to watch, so visceral.
That stuff was intense
Daemon is sleeping in a weirwood tree bed, there's weirwood tree roots going all through all the castle, the old gods are messing with him 😂
nikki:
When people were killed by the dragon saying so beautiful 🥰😍
When a dragon dies crying 😭😭😭
Vhagar is the biggest dragon, the second is Vermithor and then the third is Silverwing. Meleys is the fourth biggest and then Caraxes is the fifth largest.
You forgot about Helena's dragon, Dreamfyre, probably the fourth biggest dragon
@@VladVlad-kq6kw Ahhh you're right. So many dragons haha
I like how they've brought back the young Rhaenyra for this series, albeit in dream sequences.
It is rumored that Adam and Alan are Corliss is bastards, and I do believe that Renies just recognized him as a diehard ringer for her husband when he was younger😊
Aemond was so annoyed that Aegon couldn't understand his valyrian insults.
Aegon proved his point. He's a useless POS.
@@cfinley81 -- LOL
No he was not! He knew Aegon didn't speak valyrian very well so he did that to make Aegon feel inadequate and embarrassed
Rhaenys n Meleys went out like Queens😭🔥
Don't apologize for feelings, Nikki.
I was like Nikki, I hated seeing the dragons hurt. That's going to be the toughest part about all of this. I loved Rhaenys a lot too and I also felt so bad for Sunfyre too.
When i finished watching this i said to myself man if i screamed & shouted & cried like a baby i can only imagine how Nikki is going to react lol. I knew what was coming & i wasn’t ready man this shit was brutal
I read the books, still could not watch the dragon fight. I'll try again but when I heard Sunfyre scream in pain, I was out. I did see Rhaenys fall to her death, she was a true Targyrean Queen.
Was waiting for for your reaction and it came so quick! The scene where Meleys turns her head to look at Rhaenys one more time was heartbreaking, I knew it would make Nikki cry. These episodes are getting better and better.
“I don’t like it when the dragons fight!”
Oh, poor Nikki…
"Please don't be blood" With her talking about Weirwood trees that have 'bloody' sap, that's probably what she gave Daemon to cause such strong hallucinations.
Daemon would never try to kill his own brother just saying.
Exactly 👌
Agreed.
@@user-np4gr2je2q If Daemon had had Aegon as a brother, he would have killed him from the beginning.
@@agustinmamani5072 No he wouldn't because he's loyal Aegon literally only made fun of Aemond like all brothers do to their little brother Daemon was literally cast aside by viserys dishinherited and banished yet he never went against his brother his loyalty speaks volumes even when he was banished and Corlys was talking shit about Viserys he was like only i can talk shit about my brother u can't there was clearly respect there even though he tought his brother was weak.
Yeah, just his wife lmao. TB delusion is so real man.
Feel so sad for both Aegon and Sunfyre. Aemond was a beatch at this point. Aegon could've just escape and let Vhagar finish the job. In the book Aemond and Aegon fought together againts Meleys
Yeah, that was horrible 💔
@@leonardohenrique5172Like i dont like Aegon but I felt bad for him like the real betrayal from Aemond. He could be the bigger person but he always treats people who hurt him 1000x worse, seen with luce and now aegon
Nah, f* Aegon he doesn't have a single redeeming quality. He f*ed around and found out.
There were questions in the book too…
Getting very strong "well you've all been complaining about there not being enough action, destruction and death yet, happy now? Because this is how it's gonna be from now on" vibes from the writers right now. Brilliantly done, pretty sure that by the time the dance is over we'll all have been oversaturated with action, destruction and death, both amongst the dragons in the air and the armies and navies on the ground.
It won't be just that. GOTs was always at its best when they had quiter character building moments that led to the action (which is what was missing from the last 4 seasons). HOTD will have lots of those moments still
@@ben1ben2ben1 Tbh I'm the opposite with this show. The dragon stuff is way more fulfilling to watch than the "quiet character-building" moments, because I don't feel these characters actually have that much going on, unlike with GoT. While I didn't care for the dragons in GoT, unlike here... they have so much more personality. They should go full Birdman and just give us straight-forward action, if the budget can take it
Nikki I was just like you. I started crying because I just knew what was coming and basically just didn't watch the screen once Rhaenys went back. Then I boohooed when things went silent and I looked up to see them falling. 😭 I was devastated. I loved them so much.
bawling my eyes too for rhaenys and meleys :')
Aaymond went full on king slayer with his brother . Honestly best episode by far im crying with you nikki x
Alyn is:
Rhaenys, "Face so comely." "Your mother must of been beautiful," with a pained look. "I know who he is Corlys." "He should be raised up for saving his Lord's life."
Alyn is a bastard of house Velaryon. Raised up could mean legitimized as a Velaryon. Based on the pained look Rhaenys had, the father is probably...
Corlys has also been mentioning how the various Heirs of Driftmark know nothing of the sea for 2 seasons.
-"Are you okay?"
-"No... 😢"
-(Keeps playing)
The GOT fan experience summarized.
Wanted to add that in the book it is highly likely that Aegon was supposed to be there at Rooks rest, but we never get confirmation due to unreliable sources.
Him and Aemond planned the attack together iirc
He definitely was meant to be there as not only Aegon and Cole are very close in the books, Aegon also has a good relationship with Aemond, they planned it together, the credit for crippling Aegon and Sunfyre goes entirely to Rhaenys and Meleys, the only reason why they even survive is because Aemond and Vhagar were there
@@VictoriaTraduccionesU mean Coke has a good relationship with Aemond not Aegon.
@@schemeteam2954 no, I meant exactly what I said, Cole and Aegon are close, and Aegon had a good relationship with Aemond
@@VictoriaTraducciones That's a great point, though the book is supposedly entirely made up of the accounts of other people, so it may steer from the truth (and I think the show is trying to show us the truth, given that GRRM is involved as a writer). In the books all three dragons fall at the same time, it's a double attack on Rhaenys and Meleys from Aemond/Vhagar and Aegon/Sunfyre, from which Sunfyre and Aegon are badly injured, Vhagar and Aemond are pretty much unscathed, and Rhaenys and Meleys perish.
*"attack, meleys".* 😭
R.I.P. to Meleys and Rhaenys Targaryen, "The Queen Who Never Was"😭😭😭
The lady that plays Alicent is a good actress, she's very believable in her role.
"A child you bounced on your knee" CALL HIM WHAT HE IS! ALYS!
No matter how many reactions people upload to CZcams I'm always waiting for yours ❤
I am like Nikki. This just tore me up with the dragons fighting.
What I found interesting about Rhaenys’ interaction with Alyn was there was this palpable sense of familiarity and melancholy. But it wasn’t until her comment about how beautiful his mother must have been that I realized she doesn’t have to wonder the same thing about his father because she already knows exactly who his father is…🧐
This 56 year old man cried too. She was my favorite character. It broke my heart to see her dragon look back at her. The Queen who never was 😢
This episode broke my heart 😭 R.I.P Rhaenys
Daemon and Aemond are similarly rash but, Daemon would never try to kill his brother no matter how much he disagreed with him. Also, Rhaynes was blamed for not "finishing the job" and stopping the war when she escaped the palace... This time, she wanted to finish the job, but just could'nt.
Daemon would absolutely kill his brother if he were like aegon. He had no issue killing his own dang wife, and he never even brought it up again lmao. The reason why Daemon loves his family is because they love him, and he is proud of targaryen heritage. Aemond has only known apathy and abuse from his family. Its kinda weird how Daemon turned this bad considering baelon and alyssa were loving parents
@@sarwatarannya8786 He had 26 years of Viserys reign to kill him but didn't. Even when he was disinherited he didn't try to kill his brother. Also Viserys had no dragon all that time.
@@Boyzoh7453 viserys was nothing like aegon and he was not stupid enough to abuse and bully daemon like aegon did to aemond
I dont even think he wanted to end him.He did put his sword away after a battle that made him come down to the ground.
We are just going to ignore how much of an ass aegon was to aemond
when Daemon finds out what happened he will be like "I TOLD U SO". Daemon in episode one told Rhaenys they should take out Vhagar with the GOAT Caraxes and Meleys but he wasnt listened to. Again Daemon is ALWAYS RIGHT.
Losing Rhaenys & Meleys broke me. Also, as far as Rhaenyra sending more dragons, I don’t think there was anyone else, if I’m not mistaken. For the dragon riders for the Blacks, it’s only Rhaenyra, Daemon, Rhaenys, Jace & Baela. Rhaenyra is Queen, she can’t be risked, Jace is heir, he can’t be risked. Daemon is gone, which left only Baela. The other dragons on Dragonstone are unclaimed.
Nikki always makes me laugh “I thought those were rugs” 🤣🤣
Poor Sunfyre I felt bad for the dragon , Aegon just got betrayed ?
Yup! That's what happens when you're a 💩 human and acting like you're still kids. Aemond isn't a kid anymore. Aegon f'd around and found out.
But I do feel for Sunfyre. He got a useless POS for a rider.
@@cfinley81I bet you feel terrible for Syrax then right? Arrax too?
I really hope they show the deep bond between Sunfyre and Aegon- it’s so amazing