Could Movie Superman Defeat Movie Thor? - DCEU vs MCU

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  • Could Movie Superman Defeat Movie Thor? - DCEU vs MCU. By far one of the most discussed VS battles in history is Thor, the Asgardian prince, VS the Man of Steel himself, Superman. Although it's a very complicated topic when the comic book iterations are involved, the movie versions are certainly easier to scale due to there being far less source material to go off of. So, who is stronger, who is faster, and who is the better fighter? I decided to go over feats, scaling, statements, and the like to determine which one of these gods amongsts mortals would come out on top in this legendary bout!
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  • @Chuck
    @Chuck  Před měsícem +111

    Who do you think wins this matchup? The man of tomorrow, or the god of thunder?

  • @HelenaSan425
    @HelenaSan425 Před měsícem +322

    Ah yes Thor vs Superman the matchup that even rivals Goku vs Superman and Thanos vs Darkseid

    • @Leontrophic682
      @Leontrophic682 Před měsícem +6

      What about Luke Skywalker Vs Artoria Pendragon

    • @HelenaSan425
      @HelenaSan425 Před měsícem +2

      @@Leontrophic682 i drawn Deku x Tohka lmao

    • @cbp117
      @cbp117 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah cause nitpicking diffrent stories makes sense.. 😅
      Goku at least has a stright line story and not varuhus diffrent storeies where he sometimes is Op and sometimes low powered..

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 Před měsícem +3

      @@Leontrophic682 Since when was this a thing?

    • @knightmare_edits
      @knightmare_edits Před měsícem +2

      Nope. Darth Vader vs Mahito is more iconic. Can't believe you forgot to mention it.

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 Před měsícem +314

    Two big muscled beautiful men going at each other…oh my…I’m going to need a minute here

  • @RelatableBlackGuy
    @RelatableBlackGuy Před měsícem +197

    CZcamsr: MAKE EM FIGHT!!
    Them in question: but I don’t wanna fight..

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 Před měsícem

      "Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha, wtf

    • @lolstalgic9602
      @lolstalgic9602 Před měsícem +9

      When you just want to write good fanfiction but people only care about the fight scenes

    • @RelatableBlackGuy
      @RelatableBlackGuy Před měsícem +6

      @@lolstalgic9602 you understood the deep meaning

  • @UltraVegito-1995
    @UltraVegito-1995 Před měsícem +370

    I think MCU Thor and DCEU Superman would be friends due thier personality

    • @Axiruz
      @Axiruz Před měsícem +17

      Minor spelling mistake ☝🤓

    • @filthywalffle2633
      @filthywalffle2633 Před měsícem +39

      Superman has little to no personality in the dceu. Bros only emotion is being sad.

    • @AngelloGomez-nh6cc
      @AngelloGomez-nh6cc Před měsícem +6

      @filthywalffe2633 true but there are some other versions of Superman that are good characters.

    • @mobarenleidowu1336
      @mobarenleidowu1336 Před měsícem +13

      ​@@filthywalffle2633 What do you mean? He was happy around his mom, and when he took his first flight.

    • @filthywalffle2633
      @filthywalffle2633 Před měsícem +6

      @@AngelloGomez-nh6cc definitely, I agree, but dceu Superman is a robot

  • @dezaina9961
    @dezaina9961 Před měsícem +94

    Odin: its power has no equal.
    Also Odin:” that hammer was meant to help you focus your power”

    • @rileyowen7245
      @rileyowen7245 Před měsícem +1

      Not even toaa 😂

    • @gergernzero6904
      @gergernzero6904 Před měsícem +13

      Odin lied... He knew of hella, celestials, Zeus lighting bolt, and infinity stones. All are above it.

    • @izrael820
      @izrael820 Před měsícem +5

      @@gergernzero6904 when does Odin ever tell the truth

    • @treythegreatwhite
      @treythegreatwhite Před měsícem +2

      Odin didn’t lie about hela😂 no one asked or found out her existence to question it.

    • @gergernzero6904
      @gergernzero6904 Před měsícem +1

      @@treythegreatwhite
      It implied in "no equal" ...

  • @cbte4452
    @cbte4452 Před měsícem +138

    Just because a character "dodges" a photon based projectile doesn't mean they are reacting or moving at the speed of light. For example in the clip he showed of iron man 3, Killian is dodging iron man's blasts because he can see iron man raise his hands and begin to shoot. He just has to be faster than the guy shooting, not faster than the projectile itself

    • @carmicheallewis3840
      @carmicheallewis3840 Před měsícem +32

      FUCKING THANK YOU! So many of these channels try to say that because someone dodges an attack means they are moving at the same speed when that isn't at all the case.

    • @swagkashi
      @swagkashi Před měsícem +1

      I didn’t even watch the Superman part yet but he’s giving the benefit of doubt because Superman is relative to flash in speed who literally traversed timelines

    • @patrickstar3820
      @patrickstar3820 Před měsícem +19

      ​@@swagkashithat's what these guys do.
      Try to highball people in order to make the fight more even, so neither fanbase loses their minds.
      Reality of it is that thor was getting blitzed by quick silver.
      Who is about 2-5x faster than speed of sound, in the MCU.
      However, thor has very good travel speed feats, as a result of his weapons.
      Kinda like how a pilot can travel 1k times their actual speed. But they'll never be able to fight at that speed

    • @rileyowen7245
      @rileyowen7245 Před měsícem +5

      Finally someone understand 😂 damnit

    • @bobcob2640
      @bobcob2640 Před měsícem +6

      Except most the examples he showed have them reacting at the same or after the projectile is fired

  • @VickNumber7
    @VickNumber7 Před měsícem +155

    I swear we need a new way to measure speed of characters, cause stating everyone is Flash levels of speed, when they have no attacking feats in those speeds is insane.

    • @jcvandyck3537
      @jcvandyck3537 Před měsícem +22

      It's more reaction and reflex than actual movement and attack speed

    • @justindai8401
      @justindai8401 Před měsícem +42

      @@jcvandyck3537 the thing about that is that reacting to a light speed attack doesn't scale you to that, sometimes you just see the attack coming and block before it actually attacks you

    • @cbte4452
      @cbte4452 Před měsícem +25

      Exactly if superman can move at the speed of light than those wildebeests in the safari that dodged him can move even faster according to this logic

    • @TheBombasticFatRat
      @TheBombasticFatRat Před měsícem +11

      ​@cbte4452 I mean, saying he can move at that speed doesn't mean he is going to do it at all times does it?

    • @cbte4452
      @cbte4452 Před měsícem +11

      @TheBombasticFatRat your right. I just put it like that because that's how to creator was scaling speed. For example he said quicksilver was faster than mjolnir but couldn't dodge bullets even though mjolnir clearly isn't always traveling at full speed

  • @robbindabank1378
    @robbindabank1378 Před měsícem +44

    I mean In regards to the experience. I think Superman should be given a little more credit. General Zod has WAY more combat experience and Superman with none was fighting him casually.

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 Před měsícem +11

      ONLY because he acrually had MUCH more experience using his powers and was categorically stronger and faster that Zod due to being on Earth longer while Zod was literally learning his powers during the fight.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +5

      @@justinanderson2460 He wasn't stronger or faster. They were equal physically. If being on Earth for 33 years made him stronger, he would've had no problem with Faora and Nam-Ek, but he did. Clark also never used the full range of his powers until the movie, so it's not like he had much experience either.

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Před měsícem +1

      ​@@kanyerahming I thought he was struggling with them because he was holding back?

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +1

      @@Zaacdrums Why would he hold back? They were endangering Earth and he had to stop them, and there was zero implication he held back anything. He wasn’t fully confident he could take them down either, based on Faora’s statement. Sure, he’s not actively trying to kill them, but he’s not pulling punches either.

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Před měsícem

      @@kanyerahming if your not trying to kill someone. Aren’t you actively holding back. But I watched the scene again. I don’t think he was holding back. He just can’t fight for shit

  • @KeyIssues
    @KeyIssues Před měsícem +33

    BIG BOY FEATS in this video!

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +5

      Thanks for watching! :)

    • @cw9468
      @cw9468 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@ChuckAre we forgetting that a star, the thing that nearly killed thor would power up Superman. If the battle went into space, this fight easily goes to Superman. On earth, it could go either way, although i do think the speed difference gives Superman a hyge advantage. Also, i truly do believe Superman is more durable and can potentially dish out more damage.

    • @omglol9571
      @omglol9571 Před měsícem +5

      ​​ @cw9468 That's still a really insane durability feat for thor. because that's Superman hax. It's like saying ice living in a place of -9999 degrees when's that's his hax. Thor didn't have his storm breaker. Otherwise, he would've survived way longer. Superman also struggled to survive a nuke even though he was in a weakened state. Same even thor thor a blast of power stone, a bad beating for thanos, and still survive minutes, unlike Superman, who surggle to survive a nuke. So thor takes durability

    • @moonknight4053
      @moonknight4053 Před 12 dny

      Thors weaker versions withstood punches from ultron who is more powerful than a nuke lol. Thors durability is planet +++++

  • @sidecharacter3193
    @sidecharacter3193 Před měsícem +30

    15:10 that is the biggest asspull argument 😭
    At that point give Thor all his concept art feats

    • @terrancehowell7888
      @terrancehowell7888 Před měsícem +3

      Not at all that was literally the story Zack Snyder wrote and was going with until WB did him dirty that's why he released it

    • @princevegeta8144
      @princevegeta8144 Před 11 dny

      ​@@terrancehowell7888It never happend tho which means its non canon its just a idea atp

  • @Kenjitsuka
    @Kenjitsuka Před měsícem +32

    Great stuff as always, thanks!

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +5

      My pleasure!

  • @TheFirstNephilim
    @TheFirstNephilim Před měsícem +93

    Stand Proud Superman You Are Strong.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem

      Nah I'd punch

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +4

      The strongest main superhero of DC vs the strongest main superhero of Marvel. This fight will determine which one of them is the challenger.

    • @Superboyprime0
      @Superboyprime0 Před měsícem +3

      Superman is the definition of the Strongest

    • @phamchithien
      @phamchithien Před měsícem

      @@kanyerahming thor is the strongest marvel super hero ??? you have got to be kidding me lol , even scarlet witch or doctor strange prob can fuck thor up and he wouldnt even know =))

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem

      @@phamchithien if you were a jujutsu kaisen fan, you probably would’ve understood my reference. But I was quoting a line from JJK and applying it to this. I know Thor isn’t the strongest lol

  • @arc4859
    @arc4859 Před měsícem +4

    Power scaling is so dumb. How it would actually go going off of their fights would be very similar to Superman vs Steppenwolf, where Superman just wipes the floor with Thor.

  • @lukaslambs5780
    @lukaslambs5780 Před měsícem +51

    This is to me a great example of how characters are portrayed being at odds with their actual scaling. I have no doubt Superman is narratively meant to be more OP than Thor in their movies but Thor scales higher and would therefore win.

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 Před měsícem +4

      Being the most overpowered in their world doesn't mean that they'd be the same in a different story.

    • @demongod6878
      @demongod6878 Před měsícem +9

      Thor isn’t winning against Superman

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 Před měsícem +3

      @@demongod6878 What if he does?

    • @Faster_than_light_x
      @Faster_than_light_x Před měsícem +4

      @@ether2275 Judging by the 80+ years of Superman's history and around 60 years of Thor's history, Thor ain't got anything on Superman I mean if u read the comics Thor doesn't even go to a fight without his belt of strength Megingjord, same in the movies

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 Před měsícem +5

      @@Faster_than_light_x This has nothing to do with it.

  • @teleportdinero
    @teleportdinero Před měsícem +5

    thank you chuck i always like it better when you do the live action movie versions compared to comic book versions

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +3

      Thank you for watching!

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 Před měsícem +43

    Technically that scene of quicksilver getting shot was the same quicksilver who fought none stop at Ultron drones and using his punches on their metal bodies and I am sure it hurts like hell and he didn't take a break or a moment to catch his breath so that was a very tired quicksilver that couldn't react to bullets
    Note: someone commented me that the air was also getting thinner because the city was getting higher

    • @Spmnls
      @Spmnls Před měsícem +9

      plus he used himself as a shield instead of moving them far.

    • @AOTmultiverse
      @AOTmultiverse Před měsícem +5

      Bro before he caught those bullets he was well rested and in the carrier chilling before he saw Hawkeye in danger, he wasn’t exhausted or tired, he wasn’t just fast enough…. We can also see the scene when Hawkeye shot the glass quicksilver was standing on in the avengers mansion, the bullet wasn’t statued or anything, it was moving in exactly quicksilver time, moving at the speed quicksilver moves. And that also tallies with the fact the director Whedon said quicksilver was just as fast as a bullet… so of course it’s clear he couldn’t outrun bullets

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 Před měsícem +1

      @@AOTmultiverse I don't remember him being on the hallicariar

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 Před měsícem +2

      @@Spmnls so he died a hero

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 Před měsícem +1

      @@AOTmultiverse I don't remember him being on the hallicariar before running at Hawkeye to save him

  • @al-jd6pu
    @al-jd6pu Před měsícem +5

    Cool vid as always

  • @stevein.
    @stevein. Před měsícem +6

    I agree with the result though I disagree with some feats.
    1 Him able to throw Zeus' lightning bolt and piercing his chest doesn't make him after or more powerful than him. Remember Zeus here was not serious and pretty ridiculous hence not operating at his peak.
    2 Hela wasn't throwing daggers faster than the bifrost. If you're in a plane moving at light speed and you throw a ball, will it be moving faster than the plane?, No. The bifrost acts like a tractor beam in which you can only move at the same speed as its attractive force.
    3 Him withstanding a force of a neutron star for 4min,20 sec is both impressive but also low showing as that same feat nearly killed him if he didn't acquire stormbreaker on time.
    4 Zeus was afraid of the Nekron sword which could kill any deity which means we can't scale gorr's strength feats based on the sword. Also Jane foster(thor) faired well against Gorr which make his strength feats not that impressive as he also was fighting on par with Thor most of the movie.
    5 Since Stormbreaker isn't a worthy based weapon, there's a possibility that Superman can and will use it against Thor just as Thanos did.
    6 MCU characters have speed inconsistencies throughout the films.

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +1

      Thank u for this sound reasoning

  • @exio129
    @exio129 Před měsícem

    i love how good the video topics are and how good the video quality is in this channel, keep it up chuck

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +1

      Much appreciated!

  • @crossfire6558
    @crossfire6558 Před měsícem +6

    Almost completely agree. Although two main things I kinda disagree. But I'll leave it aside as this is still the very near perfect video for both characters. Mad respect for being completely unbiased

  • @AOTmultiverse
    @AOTmultiverse Před měsícem +6

    You spent almost 11 mins talking about Thor in a 16mins versus video, I already knew you’d say Thor wins…

  • @jamesamadasun
    @jamesamadasun Před měsícem +2

    This about to be heat

  • @pallen2645
    @pallen2645 Před měsícem +1

    Thor's feats on Nidavaliir are crazy, and nothing Superman does in the Snyderverse films comes close. Moving rings of that size within the gravity well of a neutron star is a bonkers strength feat, and tanking the entire power output of that same star for a full minute is mindblowing durability.

  • @deanlennon4604
    @deanlennon4604 Před měsícem +10

    DCEU Superman vs MCU Thor (With Proof):
    1: Superman was able to separate the mother boxes using his sheer strength. They form something called The Unity, which turns the planet's population into parademons and the planet itself into a firey hell world. So you could scale this feat to planetary level.
    2: It was confirmed by Zack Synder that SteppenWolf fought the original Doomsday and their battle resulted in the destruction of a moon. So SteppenWolf can survive the destruction of a moon but can’t stand up to Superman’s punches.
    3: In Zack Synder’s Justice League we learned the Kryptonian metal can with stand its core of being heated up to 3,500,000 kelvin. The centre of our sun is 1,100,000 kelvin. In Man of Steel Superman used his heat vision to take down a Kryptonian ship. So his heat vision would be 3x times hotter than the sun.
    4: Superman has high durability. He took attacks from Faora-Ul, Nam-Ek, General Zod and Doomsday. Superman took a nuclear bomb to the face and it’s believed that he would’ve taken it no problem if he wasn’t still under the effects of kryptonite that Batman used on him.
    5: He effortlessly beat the Justice League. Superman was also moving so fast he made them all look like statue’s except for Flash.
    6: During his fight with SteppenWolf he just made him look stupid. Superman was moving so fast that SteppenWolf couldn’t even land a single punch on him.
    7: During Man of Steel we know that the world engine is a Kryptonian terraforming ship. Just by landing it was able to annihilate mountains. So that means it’s made out of something that can withstand a mountain destroying impact. Not only did Supermam destroy the world engine he did it while WEAKENED and standing under a gravity beam that was single handily destroying the Earth. Superman was in the middle of that beam and he was at ground zero. He was taking all that force as well as all that energy and overpowered it.
    8: SteppenWolf’s Electro Axe had absolutely no affect on him whatsoever and his axe is said to be stronger than Wonder Woman’s sword.
    9: Superman could easily just statue Thor during the entire fight. He could easily disarm him of Stormbreaker and use his freeze breath to destroy it. Just like he did with the Electro Axe.
    10: Thor May have taken the full force of a Neutron Star but he would’ve died from it if Groot didn’t make the handle for Stormbreaker. Thor’s weapons are like 80% of his power. He’s nothing without them.
    11: Thor’s Battle IQ is completely useless. I mean look at General Zod. He said to Superman, I was bred to be a warrior trained my ENTIRE LIFE to MASTER MY SENSES. Yet Superman still beat him.
    12: Also Thor has absolutely no experience in fighting Kryptonians.

    • @RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq
      @RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq Před měsícem

      Who the fuck told you that Thor is nothing without his weapon? Did you see Thor Ragnarok?

    • @deanlennon4604
      @deanlennon4604 Před měsícem +3

      @@RokibulHassanRaihan-lk6nq
      1: At the start of Avengers Infinity War Thano’s had Thor at his mercy and this was after Thor had tapped in to his true power. I mean if Thor is really that freaking strong, well then he should’ve destroyed Thano’s during the first encounter.
      2: Thor even admitted without Stormbreaker facing Thano’s is suicide.
      3: He couldn’t even fight the Hulk in Avengers (2012) he needed the help of Mjölnir.
      4: During Ragnarok Thor’s strongest lightning blast didn’t do shit to Hela and before you use the excuse (as long as Hela is on Asgard she gets stronger,) look at his fight with the Hulk after he tapped into his true power and punched Hulk wasn’t even knocked out by it just a little bit fazed. So that tell me that Thor’s true power is nothing special.
      5: In Avengers Endgame he had access to Mjölnir & Stormbreaker but was still getting his ass handed to him by Thano’s. Even with the help of Iron Mam & Captain America. Again before you bring up another excuse Thor was out of shape, The Russo Brothers even confirmed this was Thor’s strongest state.
      6: At the start of Avengers Infinity War Ebony Maw was able to restrain him with metal bars. I mean he’s the GOD OF THUNDER not some regular human.
      7: When Gorr trapped Thor, Lady Thor and Valkyrie on some planet Gorr fought Thor and stole Stormbreaker off him, so it seems to me Thor is can be very easily disarmed.
      8: In Thor Love & Thunder he was getting his ass handed to him by Gorr and Lady Thor had to come and save him, otherwise he would’ve died.
      9: In Avengers Age of Ultron he was again getting his ass handed to him by Ultron and Vision had to come and help him.
      10: This isn’t got to do with his weapons but I can’t ignore this one. In Thor Ragnarok he got a chip stuck to his neck and couldn’t rip it off and was taken out by it whenever the grandmaster used it.

    • @chthonism
      @chthonism Před 5 dny

      @@deanlennon4604All of this is wrong Thor absolutely slams Superman

    • @deanlennon4604
      @deanlennon4604 Před 5 dny

      @@chthonism: Nah dude. Unless you can provide logical reasons is to why Thor wins, Superman dominates.

    • @chthonism
      @chthonism Před 5 dny

      @@deanlennon4604 Thor outscales and we can debate it

  • @Darkwing709
    @Darkwing709 Před měsícem +12

    I’m pretty sure Thor wins this fight. He’s has the clear advantage in AP and durability, and overall hax with his lightning magic that he can fire either from his weapon or omnidirectional from his entire body while unarmed, his control over the bifrost as a projectile blast could be a threat too. Superman only has a speed advantage which is arguable, his heat vision can be countered or dodged by Thor, and his frost breath wouldn’t do much of anything IMO compared to the frost powers and extream temperatures thor has dealt with.
    Thor is also clearly the superior fighter skill wise, not only having thousands of year’s experience, but in overall technique and battle IQ. The odds of him finding a way to win is higher than Superman doing the same against someone he can’t simply overpower which would be the case here.

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      That is cope

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +2

      Superman will absorb the Star's rediation and get even stronger bro

    • @gamingtoast7974
      @gamingtoast7974 Před měsícem +7

      ​@user-ro3ju8ds9i I like how you are saying this guy is coping when i have seen you under so many comments trying to argue with people on why Superman wins. You are the one that is coping. Also, you say that Superman can get stronger in the sun like Thor would just let him. And you dont even know how long it would take for superman to get as strong as thor using that method. So please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      @@gamingtoast7974 bro the video even backs me up wtf are u talking about😅

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +1

      @@gamingtoast7974 I said Thor being durable because of the neutron star feat is irrelevant because superman would get stronger from it if superman was in a similar situation with the neutron star ...😄 how is that cope ..superman gets stronger from solar radiation .Thor wouldn't even know it's making superman stronger coz he doesn't know anything about superman ...by the time he realizes it it would be too late

  • @juiceekay7428
    @juiceekay7428 Před měsícem +8

    MCU Thor has the potential to kill DCEU Superman the question is, can he even hit him?

    • @AuroraBoost
      @AuroraBoost Před měsícem +2

      Yes, yes he can

    • @PPPPPPPPP135
      @PPPPPPPPP135 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@AuroraBoostno he can't, sup is way too fast

    • @AuroraBoost
      @AuroraBoost Před měsícem +1

      @PPPPPPPPP135 Sup is fast but it's not gonna stop Thor's thunder from striking him if he gets near him. I'm giving the edge to Superman but the fight can literally go either way

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem

      Yeah, why wouldn’t he be able to?

  • @zebkai2890
    @zebkai2890 Před měsícem +4

    great vid man, always thought MCU was quite downplayed on wikis

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +2

      Glad you liked it!

  • @emmanuelonwumah915
    @emmanuelonwumah915 Před měsícem +20

    Here before Danco steals this

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +11

      Lmao

    • @ShogunAT3
      @ShogunAT3 Před měsícem +6

      He already did this matchup tho-

  • @masterbeast-sz1yq
    @masterbeast-sz1yq Před měsícem +22

    Close fight...if Suprman was holding back afcorst

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 Před měsícem +7

      Oh please. It would be a good fight in general but Clark would lose more than he would win.

    • @mythicaltyrant7476
      @mythicaltyrant7476 Před měsícem +9

      Superman loses horrible. Thors way stronger and more durable also faster travel speed and overall power

    • @PPPPPPPPP135
      @PPPPPPPPP135 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@mythicaltyrant7476 bruh 🤦‍♂️

    • @mythicaltyrant7476
      @mythicaltyrant7476 Před měsícem +3

      @@PPPPPPPPP135 get mad at the feats not me

    • @epsyfn
      @epsyfn Před měsícem +2

      @@mythicaltyrant7476the feats say Superman would no dif Thor instantly 💀

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai Před měsícem +2

    Please consider making a video about the Magic Gods of Toaru - A Certain Magical Index and A Certain Scientific Railgun. Also consider making a video about the END of All Things in Isekai and possibly all of fiction, Yogiri Takatou

  • @skitzo899
    @skitzo899 Před měsícem +1

    now this is a good matchup

  • @uzookafor8721
    @uzookafor8721 Před měsícem +4

    Glad you covered this topic,alot of people think dceu super man is going to blitz mcu thor which is wrong by the way. Thor wins mid to high diff.thor has more source material and feats from movies that put him above dceu super man.but i do agree the fight would be close.

    • @JeZuse777
      @JeZuse777 Před měsícem +1

      The beginning of justice league alone gives wonder women a feat above Thor she defeated ares who defeated darkseid sups came back not fazed by an attack by someone who defeated doomsday powered up? Crack came back or it never left 🙄

    • @uzookafor8721
      @uzookafor8721 Před měsícem +2

      @@JeZuse777 nope.did you pay attention to his video.thor has a higher AP,raw power and durability than super man but not a massive gap, which puts him above Wonder woman.The Darkseid that was injured in battle was not at his peak.

    • @uzookafor8721
      @uzookafor8721 Před měsícem

      @@JeZuse777 just because she defeated Ares does not make her above Thor. power scale Ares properly with feats

    • @JeZuse777
      @JeZuse777 Před měsícem

      So mcu fat old zues is op got one shot by Thor but a young ares taking out a billion year old darkseid is him being young ha ha stop it. Because ain’t no more power ups Superman get it the fight when he would defeat darkseid and the powered up steppinwoulf didn’t even fazed him. Thor is not seeing Superman my guy.

    • @uzookafor8721
      @uzookafor8721 Před měsícem

      @@JeZuse777 shh, watch the video properly and keep your opinions to your self

  • @mig4868
    @mig4868 Před měsícem +69

    If Supes lets loose, I don't think Thor can even tag him.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +6

      He has the feats to, though

    • @epsyfn
      @epsyfn Před měsícem +5

      @@kanyerahmingno he doesn’t 😂

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +5

      @@epsyfn he can consistently react to light speed attacks and scales to characters who do. How doesn’t he? Superman doesn’t have feats like those

    • @someflayd7451
      @someflayd7451 Před měsícem +7

      @@kanyerahmingyour trolling right?

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +1

      @@someflayd7451 no, I’m legitimately serious. I can’t think of a single speed feat Superman has that’s above Thor’s, unless I’m missing something

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai Před měsícem +2

    Please also consider making a video about the Magic Gods of Toaru - A Certain Magical Index and A Certain Scientific Railgun

  • @mattmcwhirt4146
    @mattmcwhirt4146 Před měsícem +1

    Chuck I trust your power scaling completely.

  • @connorhawke4373
    @connorhawke4373 Před měsícem +7

    Unless Thor aims for the Head. Catching Superman offguard. he doesn’t even stand a chance. He‘s completely outmatched in every way. His best chance is Stormbreaker as kryptonians have a weakness to magic.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +1

      When has Kryptonians having a magic weakness ever been addressed in the DCEU? I swear everyone thinks comic logic always applies to the movies for some reason even if the universes are different

    • @connorhawke4373
      @connorhawke4373 Před měsícem +2

      @@kanyerahming in BVS Wonder Woman‘s sword was able to cut off Doomsday‘s Arm who was far stronger than Superman at that time. I don’t think Amazonians have access to a type metal that could pierce Kryptonian skin. Wonder Woman’s sword as well as her shield, lasso and gauntlet are imbued with magic.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem

      @@connorhawke4373 her sword is just that sharp, I don’t think its magical. Her lasso def is tho.

    • @connorhawke4373
      @connorhawke4373 Před měsícem +2

      @@kanyerahming nah that’s the sword of Athena and it‘s definitely imbued with Magic

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem

      @@connorhawke4373 when was that stated though? not disagreeing

  • @JeSsE10mCcOy11
    @JeSsE10mCcOy11 Před měsícem +19

    It'd be a close fight

    • @Vdrater
      @Vdrater Před měsícem +2

      Henry Cavill's Superman can achieve Mach 27.5 so no it’s not close

    • @JeSsE10mCcOy11
      @JeSsE10mCcOy11 Před měsícem +4

      @@Vdrater that's supersonic, not superluminal like Thor proved to be

    • @Vdrater
      @Vdrater Před měsícem +1

      @@JeSsE10mCcOy11 he doesn’t consistently move at those speeds superman fights constantly show him moving at those speeds

    • @Vdrater
      @Vdrater Před měsícem +1

      @@JeSsE10mCcOy11 he can react to those things but he can’t move at those speeds consistently

    • @JeSsE10mCcOy11
      @JeSsE10mCcOy11 Před měsícem

      @@Vdrater you said that Henry Cavill's Superman was only supersonic fighting speed. So explain your inconsistency again?

  • @Chokominuts
    @Chokominuts Před měsícem +2

    ANOTHER W. 🗣️💯🔥

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching!

  • @jondiaz3329
    @jondiaz3329 Před měsícem +6

    I respect this video because you specified the movies and the versions of the character's we're talking about. Idc what anyone thinks on this one because at least we're limiting it to 2 specific versions of each character. I get so sick of "Superman vs character" vids where we just pretend like there's not about 100 yrs of history and at least 5 different versions of Superman from different eras that range from reality warping/godlike powers to high end superhuman.

  • @blinded2329
    @blinded2329 Před měsícem +5

    Superman wins easily

  • @kaizel1722
    @kaizel1722 Před měsícem +16

    Talking about speed feats. We just gonna forget Thor flying straight to the center of the universe to chase after Gorr in less than a minute of movie runtime? Thor blitzes the fuck out of supes lmaooo

    • @justindai8401
      @justindai8401 Před měsícem +2

      Travel speed

    • @JasonNuhu
      @JasonNuhu Před měsícem +3

      Thor only managed to do that because of Zeus's thunder bolt.

    • @alpha7even928
      @alpha7even928 Před měsícem +2

      that's the bifrost enchantment that acts like a portal. anyone that enters it is getting sent the speed of whatever. it's not even individual combat speed.

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Před měsícem +1

      Travel speed and combat speed are 2 different things.

    • @treythegreatwhite
      @treythegreatwhite Před měsícem +2

      @@JasonNuhuhe still has it😂 and it’s talking about movie Thor.

  • @tylerscott2116
    @tylerscott2116 Před měsícem +1

    Here's one aspect you left out, that is super relevant to how Superman is Superman in The Man Of Steel version. There is something equally relevant that Kal El has going on with him that is just as profound, if not more than all of Thor's experience. The Codex. All of the genetic potential of Kryptonians and peak of functionality in every possible task in a very ancient and advanced society was held within the codex. They genetical programmed and predetermined a kryptonians destiny of what they would be by biologically hijacking them to be hyperfunctional relative to certain archetypal societal tasks. That entire codex is bonded to Kal. I think this implies for sure, that Superman isn't just Superman because of his powerset. But because he is genetically predisposed to be the best at everything essentially by the entire codex being bonded to his DNA.
    Think about it. Zod was a Kryptonian trained to be a soldier and genetically engineered to be the ultimate soldier, so we're his minions. They also had armor and Super weapons, Aircraft. And Superman beat all of them.
    I always took it as it was because the unlimited potential that Clark stored in his DNA, unilateral of his Kryptonian Powers.
    Superman takes the Win because of The Codex.

  • @silver______
    @silver______ Před měsícem +2

    Should be comparing a verse with comparable lore to the Mcu like the Superman and Lois verse.
    Tyler H’s superman Vs Mcu Thor would be a killer video.
    Either way good breakdown G.

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Před měsícem

      Tyler superman wins. That guy is on another level than mos superman

    • @silver______
      @silver______ Před měsícem +1

      @@Zaacdrums Definitely agree.

  • @anthonypugh28
    @anthonypugh28 Před měsícem +7

    No way Thor wins this fight

  • @carltaylor2975
    @carltaylor2975 Před dnem

    Great video! To explain Hela throwing the daggers faster than the bifrost though it's kind of like this, she's already going that fast, so it's easy for her to throw faster than that. Think of throwing a baseball inside a moving car that's going 60 mph, you barely have to throw it to get it moving at 65 mph. I think that I have a grasp on this but if I'm wrong anyone can feel free to explain it to me.

  • @carmicheallewis3840
    @carmicheallewis3840 Před měsícem +2

    I'm of the opinion that they could both kill each other. Thor likely can't take a blow that could potentially fracture a whole planet. But superman is weak to magic.its one of 2 of his weaknesses. Only issue would be how he would go about hitting superman. Cause they don't compare in speed at all.

  • @nerdcorner2680
    @nerdcorner2680 Před měsícem +50

    MCU Infinity War Thor is crazy. God of Thunder Mode that lets him one shot Hulk. Tanking a Star attack, while a moon attack nearly wiped half the Avengers. Only Avenger stronger at the time was Dr.Strange

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 Před měsícem +1

      "Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha

    • @nerdcorner2680
      @nerdcorner2680 Před měsícem +6

      @@slevinchannel7589 There is no creation feat there? A star blasted Thor’s chest, a moon landed on the Avengers. Both durability

    • @mmanzanozr1
      @mmanzanozr1 Před měsícem

      Yeah that same neutron star would power Superman up lol

    • @caliginousmoira8565
      @caliginousmoira8565 Před měsícem +2

      @@nerdcorner2680 pieces... not the whole moon. if the entire moon hit the planet they are all deadl

    • @caliginousmoira8565
      @caliginousmoira8565 Před měsícem

      @@mmanzanozr1 so superman gets powered up by all suns now......................?

  • @clarkkent4565
    @clarkkent4565 Před měsícem +4

    Smallville superman from season 11 comics and superman when sundipped from CW superman and lois have a higher chance of soloing mcu thor then dceu superman unfortunately lol anyways good job Chuck you the best bro 😎👍please do more mcu vs dceu battles in the future if possible.

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @antona.8659
    @antona.8659 Před měsícem +2

    MCU Thor got defeated by a taser. His punches don't create shockwaves, he flies slower than a hellicopter, and he's generally a complete moron. Superman would snap his himbo neck and go back home to dine with his mom.

  • @papaji634
    @papaji634 Před měsícem +2

    Thor is inconsistent too but don't forget supes effortlessly destroy black zero and zod clearly stated this ship can survive in black hole for eternity ☠️ so imagine where mos supes ap and dura scales and don't forget he also destroy world engine in his weak form and this is also relative to black zero and clearly stated Thor's nidavalier feat is 50 thousand k temprature but mos supes heat vision is far more then 3.5 million k ( clearly stated )
    Also supes scales higher then gods and same gods created limitless power objects like atlantean steel and dream stone and a wall which saprate them from creation and also gods r stated primordial forces of creation and dceu have multiverse ☠️ also Barry destroy a universal reality by his lightning bolt and same Barry can't even break nam ek suit by his lightning and zod casually broke his Armor and mos supes >>> zod 🗿

  • @auroo6736
    @auroo6736 Před měsícem +3

    Thor the god of thunder got electrocuted so...

  • @joshcoolzwit1364
    @joshcoolzwit1364 Před měsícem +3

    I thought it was stated that thor shook the entire planet of jotunheim

  • @007jojobear
    @007jojobear Před 19 dny +1

    Not even close, you keep forgetting that Thor can open portals and all he has to do is open a portal to a universe with a red sun and just kick the shit out of him,

  • @hotfunyunsop6196
    @hotfunyunsop6196 Před měsícem

    Hey chuck, just wanna say this is legit my favorite vid of yours so far! Im a big superman fan since i was a kid, so seeing respectful battle/scaling vids even now never stales for me lol Banger vid as always G

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Soul_Dale_
    @Soul_Dale_ Před měsícem +3

    I think Thor takes this he had better feats and shown more durability and skills plus he’s more experienced Superman faster but that’s it probably equal in strength and endurance

    • @PPPPPPPPP135
      @PPPPPPPPP135 Před měsícem +1

      Superman is definitely 5 x stronger physically and he's way too fast. I don't think thor can even hit him once before the fight is over

    • @Soul_Dale_
      @Soul_Dale_ Před měsícem +3

      @@PPPPPPPPP135 he’s not sorry Thor shown way better strength feats in movies tho after holding open a STAR!!! that’s the sized of a small planet

  • @Battle-Enjoyer324
    @Battle-Enjoyer324 Před měsícem +15

    I can tell Superman would win due to the difference of their fights. For example, Superman and Zod destroy much of a city including several sky scrapers. Meanwhile Thor vs Loki is contained to the top of 1 building. Superman fodderized his team while Iron Man and Hulk were both able to fight Thor well enough, even show superiority in certain ways. Superman dominated Steppenwolf who could argue would beat Thor. Etc

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 Před měsícem +1

      Context is does not support this argument. Do more research.

    • @Battle-Enjoyer324
      @Battle-Enjoyer324 Před měsícem

      @@justinanderson2460 care to explain?

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 Před měsícem +7

      ​​@@Battle-Enjoyer324+
      Sure. Several things. For starters, the DCEU Snyderverse movies go out of their way to create spectacles of damage and destruction to present the character's feats and power in a clear and overt manner. The MCU by and large, only do this when necessary. The entire style of of the movies and how the feats are presented are different. So there's a meta element before we even get into the lore itself.
      Speaking of, Zod and Clark were fighting the way they were in a no-holds barred, fight to the death, clearly going all out and Zod in particular was making a point of causing great destruction (or caring very little about it).
      Thor vs Loki in Avengers meanwhile was 2 brothers fighting each other in a glorified squabble. Neither wanted to kill the other and not only was Thor weakened in Avengers anyway, he was holding back immensely.
      This very video showed the source so I won't quote or cite it again here but in Thor 1, Thor strikes the ground in Jotunheim so hard that it destroys and utterly collapses an area that is 100 times the size of the Grand Caynon. With 1 single blow. The ENTIRE CITY Zod and Clark were fighting in would fit in an equivalent area many, many, many times over. Moreover, Jotunheim is massively larger than Earth and the area destroyed by Thor was referred to as a continental shelf.
      Thor also broke the Rainbow Bridge in Thor 1 with 10 swings from Mjolnir during his fight with Loki. The Bifrost is capable of containing and channelling energy that can destroy a planet as that is precisely what Loki was gonna use it for. Jotunheim no less which is (again) multiple times the size of Earth. Yet Thor shattered the Bifrost in 10 blows. 1 blow in Ragnarok.
      This is the same Thor who's fight with Loki was "contained to the top of 1 building". As I said, Thor was much weaker in Avengers but he also made a point of explaining to the Avengers and Coulson that he was ashamed that his previous appearance on Earth caused much destruction so it's clear he is holding back while there as well. Since (again) we KNOW he is capable of MUCH more. Iron Man was also getting stomped and even against a weakened Thor, the only thing he did was ruffle Thor's hair a little - even after a massive power boost that Thor himself gave Tony by accident. Thor was so never trying to fight Hulk properly either. Instead trying to talk and reason with him the whole time.
      The point here is that the context of the fights are massively different. You're argument is based off of them being comparable when that's just not the case. Much of that context can be summed up by (as much as rhis phrase gets erroneously thrown around these days) Thor was holding back massively most of the time.
      It's also completely unarguably that Steppenwolf could beat Thor. How on Earth did you come to that conclusion?

    • @Battle-Enjoyer324
      @Battle-Enjoyer324 Před měsícem +1

      @@justinanderson2460 well the thing is, what we see and what is presented is what we have to go off of feats wise. If you saw no other feats of 2 men and one destroyed a wall with a punch but the other didn’t, the one who destroyed the wall would look stronger. MCU has more ridiculous anti feats such as Thor needing 2 hits to defeat an Ultron bot, or Thor and Gorr fighting against a car and not breaking it. I can’t recall such low showings for DCEU Superman
      As for the Clark/Zod fight, Zod wasn’t holding back but Clark was. He didn’t want to kill Zod.
      The problem with considering Thor weakened in Avengers, is that he got the jump on Iron Man and Hulk. So, pretty much evens out tbh. I don’t remember feats of TDW or AOU to put Thor above his Avengers 1 feats.
      The Jotunheim strike seems outlierish. Thor literally could have one shot Sokovia, Thanos army, etc if the feat was consistent. Maybe Jotunheim is physically weaker than Earth.
      Aquaman, Cyborg, Wonder Woman 3v1 couldn’t beat Steppenwolf. Cyborg’s blasts can casually cut down several buildings. Damage output similar to Thor’s lightning. Aquaman and Wonder Woman have similar striking strength as Thor when it comes to how far they can launch someone. Steppenwolf stayed conscious after Superman punches but Thor got KOd by some Hulk/Thanos punches. Steppenwolf armor couldn’t be pierced by WW or Aquaman weapons but Thor and his armor get pierced by seemingly every sharp weapon used to attack him.

    • @mythicaltyrant7476
      @mythicaltyrant7476 Před měsícem +2

      Thors feats blow superman out of the water. Thors literally stronger, more durable had more power and attack potential. Not even close

  • @JadoBouhzam
    @JadoBouhzam Před měsícem

    Would love to see a thanos vs darksied video specifically mcu vs snyder version

  • @TheRibbonFighter
    @TheRibbonFighter Před měsícem

    I've always wondered this.

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 Před měsícem +8

    I think it could be even, with Thor having more experience and Superman can always be amped by the Sun.
    Now end of Love and Thunder Thor could have a chance, but had we seen Cavil Superman face off against Black Adam then maybe the edge could have gone to him. However, we might never see that.
    Great video as always Chuck

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks for watching!

    • @PYRATE31
      @PYRATE31 Před měsícem +1

      Black Adam is Weak bro in the movie

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Před měsícem

      @@PYRATE31 definitely not, though they did downplay DR. Fate

    • @johndiddilyjoe6258
      @johndiddilyjoe6258 Před měsícem +1

      What a nothing statement. Almost as bad as "I think they would just be friends"

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Před měsícem

      @@johndiddilyjoe6258 What a bad counter argument that you have nothing to add to the discussion.
      What a nothing response

  • @JadeZombie_ssbu
    @JadeZombie_ssbu Před měsícem +7

    I thought this was gonna be mainline comics versions

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +7

      That'll be down the line!

    • @JadeZombie_ssbu
      @JadeZombie_ssbu Před měsícem +1

      @@Chuck YES YES YES YES

    • @dexays.
      @dexays. Před měsícem

      its kinda obvious that superman wins in comics, would be an interesting video though

    • @JadeZombie_ssbu
      @JadeZombie_ssbu Před měsícem

      @@dexays. I'm not going to even argue I'm just going to seem surprised

    • @user-lu6yz7rq3j
      @user-lu6yz7rq3j Před měsícem

      Hell yeah I can't wait ​@@Chuck

  • @brad4231
    @brad4231 Před měsícem +1

    Doesn’t Thor know a little magic? That’s like kryptonite to Superman

  • @angusalvarado3064
    @angusalvarado3064 Před měsícem

    9:40 I love how I've heard about her doing that in the movie, but this is my first time actually seeing that clip. On a video that isn't about her movie.

  • @hdl3044
    @hdl3044 Před měsícem +3

    If you don’t use the storyboard wank for Superman and grant the old school lack of magic resistance for Superman Thor definitely wins IMO

    • @owlobsidian6965
      @owlobsidian6965 Před měsícem +2

      But the question would be is Thor's lightning even magic? I don't think MCU has actual supernatural magic, just highly advanced scientific manipulation and technology. One could also argue Thor's lightning is normal natural lighting simply summoned by means of magic.

  • @Superboyprime0
    @Superboyprime0 Před měsícem +7

    Why are you ignoring the facts that Thor can bleed, injured in 5-10 hits from Thanos and tired in fights he can be stabbed,loses his eyeball, while nothing can scratch Superman unless it is kryptonite also Superman’s punches generates shockwaves and electricity can’t conduct through Superman’s body making him resistant to lighting attacks also if hella can break Thors hammer then Superman too, in summary Superman will cut Thors head with his own Stromebraker before Thor even realise also saying they are relative in speed so wrong look at WWs speed she shows more impressive feat of speed than Thor ever has and She got speed blitz by Superman also Steppenwolf can’t even land a blow on superman also when first time Thor destroyed bridge that was active vs second time was inactive that's why it takes times to break it in first place do your research properly

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      Thank u

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +2

      Bad argument. And it’s out of character for Superman to decapitate anyone

    • @Superboyprime0
      @Superboyprime0 Před měsícem

      @@kanyerahming yes it is out of character for Superman

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +2

      @@kanyerahming dceu superman ....it's in character ,he snapped steppenwolfs horn with heat vision. ...He broke zods neck

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      @@kanyerahming Thor is really just carrying a weapon superman can one shot him with ..its kinda sad

  • @again-again-again
    @again-again-again Před měsícem +1

    Ok, i was totally buying all of these until you mentioned Cyborg being able to react to Superman's hear vision which travels at light speed, in that same scene, Batman literally reacted to it the same way Cyborg did by blocking it with his gauntlet, So........

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai Před měsícem +1

    please make a vs battle including Mash from Mashle

  • @sharktopusvonjr2374
    @sharktopusvonjr2374 Před měsícem +4

    Thor destroys
    Also, Thor has better mftl+ arguments

  • @RB-H
    @RB-H Před měsícem +6

    I don't think Thanos threw his blade at light speed.

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +1

      If he didn't, Carol would have been able to catch up to it.

    • @valou-scaling
      @valou-scaling Před měsícem +2

      @@ChuckDon’t photons move slower in an atmosphere than in the void of space ?

    • @RB-H
      @RB-H Před měsícem +2

      @@Chuck Other than the usual “for the story”. If Thanos had the capability to throw any object at relativistic speeds, none of the fights would’ve lasted as long. It’s likely that he was just closer to the van, or maybe Carol wasn’t flying fast, just incase she couldn’t stop in time

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      ​@@Chuckbro no ...

    • @crossfire6558
      @crossfire6558 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@valou-scalingLight in air is 1.0003 times slower than light in a vacuum, which slows it all the way down from 299,792,458 meters per second to 299,702,547 meters per second. That's a slowdown of 89,911 meters per second, which looks like a lot but is only three ten-thousandths of the speed of light. Not much difference at all

  • @Faster_than_light_x
    @Faster_than_light_x Před měsícem +1

    one who got bruises after ultron threw a Concrete Slab at him vs The guy who is immune to every kind of damage u throw at him except for kryptonite, The winner is pretty easy to determine also Superman Survived a 100 million degrees 475 kiloton nuke's Explosion's core temp while being weakened af vs Thor who was burnt to a crisp after taking only 50000 kelvin of heat which was 855 gigatons of force per sec [Source-key issues], Large island level max

  • @TheMMSpirit
    @TheMMSpirit Před měsícem +2

    Superman would hate Thor. While Thor has a strong streak of nobility, he is quite arrogant and brash with no concern at all for the property or sometimes even lives of that of Earth. Did Thor ever pay compensation for the destruction of the town in NM, NYC, or the tens of thousands of lives lost due to him and his brother's rivalry? Or the casual backhand of people like Stark? Superman would be pissed to be treated like that - he'd instantly develop a dislike of Thor, thinking he's the same as all the popular bullies that treated him wrong before.
    For cinema Thor and Superman, is there any question of power levels? FTL speed Superman who can smash skyscrapers to smithereens, heat vision that can slice them up vs Thor whose lighting covers about 25 meters radius at most. Cinema Thor is pathetically weak. Superman can win instantly.

  • @michaeldones2320
    @michaeldones2320 Před měsícem +4

    Im a simple man. I see a Chuck video I click faster than Flash.

  • @kuro9138
    @kuro9138 Před měsícem +26

    superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thor

  • @Sukuna1983
    @Sukuna1983 Před 25 dny +1

    Are we not taking narrative into account here? Narratively Superman is portrayed as someone who fights with the speed he travels with. Thor's combat speed is not nearly as fast as him traveling while throwing mjolnir. I don't think Superman would perception blitz him, but I doubt Thor could really keep up. Superman wins this mid-diff

  • @IvanMoncure
    @IvanMoncure Před měsícem +1

    Also Mjolnir accelerates the longer it travels in a straight line. In the scene where Quicksilver grabs it, it’s not going very fast.

  • @fourultra119
    @fourultra119 Před měsícem +7

    I feel you overhyped dceu superman, don't see how he's multi planetary or planetary at all and he didn't have any light speed feats, his best speed feats are reacting to base flash speed who definitely isn't LS

    • @revenantronin8377
      @revenantronin8377 Před měsícem +10

      bro... he escaped the singularity of a blackhole that targets Kryptonians specifically.
      He was lightspeed in the first movie when he was several times weaker.
      Luthor's Doomsday also fires heat vision attacks that Wonder Woman and a nerfed Superman easily react to after it has been fired.
      Definitely FTL, what DCEU did you watch?

    • @davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499
      @davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 Před měsícem +3

      ​​@@revenantronin8377that was not a black hole, it's proven in the movie
      "It's like a black hole but not actually one"
      Superman managed to escape because of it collapsing.
      And Superman kept up with a flash not going at full speed, Superman Is 75% sol which Is relativistic and he's travel/reaction speed should scale to His combat speed.
      thor at a regular basis can react to His hammer that went from the ground to the sun In seconds In His second movie which Is massively faster than light, he Also reacted to the destroyer's Odin force beams which are confirmed to be beams of light, Thor Also escaped a blackhole confirmed by the VFX team In Thor 2.
      Thor Also reacted to Quicksilver and was the only one moving In His pov, to later chuck Mjolnir at him.
      Thor's at least 15% sol and has faster than light In travel/reaction speed.
      This Is enough for him to keep up with the Man of steel despait being slightly slower.
      Also Doomsday's beam reaction Time by WW was mostly aim dodgin, Superman only reacted to it once, but the HV it self isn't the fastest.

    • @justindai8401
      @justindai8401 Před měsícem

      he overhyped both. Many of the reaction feats are just characters seeing an attack and dodging/blocking before it starts.

    • @justindai8401
      @justindai8401 Před měsícem +1

      @@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 Mjolnir's speed fluctuates. It's not constant. Him dodging destroyers beams can also be explained by aim dodging, the destroyer isn't exactly subtle in charging it's beams. If thor was moving at all in quicksilvers pov, it was very very little, quicksilver went out of super speed for a second and thats when thor threw mjolnir.

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem

      ​@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9it was 499

  • @hylianchriss
    @hylianchriss Před měsícem +4

    Thor is my favorite Avenger, and I have loved the MCU for the most part of my life. But I'm sorry, DCEU Superman takes this.
    Of course power levels are inconsistent between movies (and I'm tempted to say Thor 4 isn't canon, it's just silly for the sake of being silly). But there is nothing indicating Thor can move at super speeds, other than when flying. I have seen the same movies you have, and I don't buy him reacting at the speed of light. The MCU clearly showed Quicksilver move at super speed, but no other character. Other than possibly Spider-Man's reaction time (when his spider sense works).
    Thanos fights Iron Man and Cap, whose speeds are absolutely human (especially the former), and uses the exact same speed when fighting Thor. Thor is never seem to dodge or blitz, in a manner Cap or Iron-Man can't. Superman would fly (or walk) circles around Thanos in that fight.
    Thor is very strong, but none of his raw strength feats seems to match a Kryptonian. Tanking "the full force of a star" is by far his most impressive one (although it almost killed him), and that makes me believe he wouldn't be too hurt by Superman's heat vision. Unless Superman kept it up for long.
    Thor exploding the city in Sokovia was by igniting the vibranium.
    IMO DCEU Superman mid diffs MCU Thor, with an added "I'm not impressed" after being hit by Stormbreaker/Mjölnir.

    • @kanyerahming
      @kanyerahming Před měsícem +1

      Thor destroying part of Jotunheim is better than all of Clark’s feats

  • @user-hs4ku8dl4t
    @user-hs4ku8dl4t Před měsícem +2

    Thor takes literally every stat except iq debate me

  • @Xicor111
    @Xicor111 Před měsícem

    Considering how close they are in terms of overall power, it just might be skill and stamina difference. The question is this superman any good in actual fighting technique? And what are their overall stamina? Because I feel like their durability are better then their attack.

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 Před měsícem +8

    The real question is which one pulled the best woman dceu lois lane or mcu jane foster

    • @Chuck
      @Chuck  Před měsícem +7

      Natalie Portman a baddie

    • @dionysisnance4204
      @dionysisnance4204 Před měsícem +1

      @@Chuck true she got anakin skywalker and thor odinson

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@dionysisnance4204She is the greatest woman across fiction

    • @basimali619
      @basimali619 Před měsícem

      @@mandalorianhunter1don’t forget spider man and mysterio too 😂

  • @jK-mb7im
    @jK-mb7im Před měsícem +3

    THOR

  • @kengtachala1867
    @kengtachala1867 Před měsícem +1

    If Thor brings magic into it’s a wrap

  • @absolutleynotanalien8096
    @absolutleynotanalien8096 Před měsícem

    The knife didn't need to travel in the opposite direction just slower than those in it, the dyson sphere was being exposed to far less than the surface gravity due to distance and only a small portion of its light hits thor.

  • @chaneladriana6829
    @chaneladriana6829 Před měsícem +9

    It’ll always be superman at mid diff

  • @filipcesnjak2944
    @filipcesnjak2944 Před měsícem +3

    Superman > Thor ... strenght Superman, speed Superman, endurance Superman, durability Superman, power varity Superman, intelligence Superman, power boost Superman, healing Superman, weapions Thor, suit protectivness Thor, combat Thor, expirience Thor, less weeknes Thor, fight IQ Thor, will power Thor ... total Superman 8:7 Thor ... Superman wins.

  • @cw9468
    @cw9468 Před měsícem +1

    Are we forgetting that a star, the thing that nearly killed thor would power up Superman. If the battle went into space, this fight easily goes to Superman. On earth, it could go either way, although i do think the speed difference gives Superman a hyge advantage. Also, i truly do believe Superman is more durable and can potentially dish out more damage.

    • @thomasbullins
      @thomasbullins Před měsícem

      And the neutron star looked like it was blue --
      That would double Superman's power

  • @heathharlow6373
    @heathharlow6373 Před měsícem +2

    Done, Supes won, why argue.

  • @GDK69
    @GDK69 Před měsícem +10

    Ngl I knew the outcome when I clicked because superman is hella fast and would blitz thor

  • @ToxicJay854
    @ToxicJay854 Před měsícem +3

    Mcu Thor slams bad

  • @Pseudog831
    @Pseudog831 Před měsícem +1

    Movie Superman vs Movie Thanos would be great match rather than movie Thor.

  • @Ace-ps5fu
    @Ace-ps5fu Před měsícem +1

    They nerfed Superman the same way they did the Hulk in these films.

  • @rotemegozi1044
    @rotemegozi1044 Před měsícem +5

    I think thor wins medium difficulty.
    DCEU is planetary-multi planet at best.
    While thor is star-solar system level.

  • @johnnydepp6843
    @johnnydepp6843 Před měsícem +12

    Superman clear win this fight

    • @DahGabriel-gk2cr
      @DahGabriel-gk2cr Před měsícem +2

      Agreed

    • @ashtonpeppard3663
      @ashtonpeppard3663 Před měsícem

      Thor is stronger and more durable but superman is just too quick for him

    • @Callumdevan17
      @Callumdevan17 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@ashtonpeppard3663Thor is not stronger and more durable 😂 seriously?

  • @OMZeditz1
    @OMZeditz1 Před měsícem +1

    Can you do a Omni-man vs MCU Thor

  • @Kiddo_X
    @Kiddo_X Před měsícem +1

    Thor. That Lightning alone covers 360°. Stormbreaker & Mjolnir helped him focus that lightning.

  • @IvanMoncure
    @IvanMoncure Před měsícem +4

    I think scaling Thor and other MCU guys to be FTL in combat is really problematic when quicksilver is shown clearly on screen to be orders of magnitude faster while being like hypersonic (if we are very generous) in combat.
    Even Captain America scales to Thor and Thanos combat speed and he can’t outrun a fast car.
    I think Cap. Marvel / the Destroyer’s lasers both act more like plasma blasts with mass anyways, and should be thought of as such.
    Even if we treat them like light, these characters are not consistently this fast, it’s an outlier.

  • @justinanderson2460
    @justinanderson2460 Před měsícem +4

    Thor woud win. It would eb a good fight for sure but Thor would take it. Superman isn't hurting him with heat vision when he can tank a neutron star's energy focused on him for several minutes (while weakened) before giving out.
    Literally the ONLY advantage Superman MIGHT have is speed and and even then it's contentious at best. For the people downplaying Thor or hyping Clark unreasonably, Flash has shown he needs to exert maximum effort and needs a build up to reach relativistic, let alone light and light+ speeds. When the League fought Clark, he was blitzing them at well below lightspeed since the lightning generated but Flash was moving noticeably faster than Clark was - so it goes both ways. Realistically, they are comparable in speed, its just that DC keeps goinf out of their way to showcase overwhelming speed, strength, etc while the MCU isn't filmed like that. Its a meta answer but its also an accurate one and in all other facets aside from speed (where they are comparable), Thor outclasses Superman. He can also use om idirecrional lightning attacks so blotzinf him ian't really an option even if Superman WAS faster - whoch he isn't. So again, it would be a great fight. Close for sure however, Thor qould take rhe Majority as he just has too many advantages.

  • @Yabbyedits
    @Yabbyedits Před měsícem +1

    Bro.... You shredded feats of thor more than superman... Like a biased fan. For the record thor didn't survive " neutron star" it was the heat only and the neutron star was dying. And wasn't naturally created in the universe. But i wouldn't say it wasn't powerful. It was roughly 1 million °c only. On the contrary superman survived a tactical nuke in his weakened state in BvS. Which was 100 million°c. You can google it. Also I'm happy you admitted that Stormbreaker wasn't as powerful as IG. That blast thanos shot was referred as " random bullshit" in comics. It really didn't show the power of IS. And in "dark world" thor didn't shatter the infinity stone. It was already in vapoured state. So by striking it with lightning he increased the kinetic energy of the particles of the RS and they finally "exploded". But as you saw it they got back together.
    Destroying that city was one of the greatest feat of thor I would say. But it was with the help of tony "heating up" the explosive underground motors made hil able to destroy it. And for the statement you gave" he can destroy continents by byfrost " he can channel it only to travel within it and as you saw in infinity war... The bifrost didn't cause any damage as he landed in wakanda.
    And as for his speed the things you defined as " things with light speed " actually they were just with speed of rockets tier. For example you said that he reached a new peak and he was showing "FTL" speed. If you did realized... The "beams" the aliens shooting wasn't light speed. And my proof is that when thor came to the battle ground and stood on the rock... Yiu can see that the beams they were firing took 0.8 to 1.2 seconds to travel approx 1.5 km and they were their grand weapons not some low tier weapons on the flying ships... So with the amount of time and distance given above ... The speed of the beams become approx 1 to 1.5km/s and clearly light is 299997 km/s fast. They were just ordinary bullets with long range of shoots.
    And once again in the dark world you stated that thor has "light speed " showcasing he pushed out loki out of a black hole. Man i don't know how you thought that through ... But to give you an idea, he came from the side travelling from a place where the black hole had no effect. ( Because if it wasn't he couldn't have gained the momentum to push out loki) . If he wasn't in the effect of the black hole... He didn't outspeed the black hole he just swing by and changed the direction by " momentum" not by "speed". In order to outspeed a black hole you need to be in its gravity field like superman.
    And the desttoyer... He wasn't firing a laser it was a fire channeled by his shape of eyes like when thanos absorbed the fire caused by Iron man's explosives by the IG and channeled them directly.
    Overall i realized that you didn't go through or do reaserch on superman's feats as thor when you explained aka " showed thors like 9 mins and superman's barely 3 mins ( even with talking about others's feats.) and you just wanted to show that thor was more powerful than superman. BTW if you wanna debate just reply to me. And i highly doubt that you haven't seen this comment.
    And the funny thing is that you mentioned that hela threw daggers faster than the speed of bifrost. My only answer for this is "remember the first law of newton".

  • @hollowface6537
    @hollowface6537 Před měsícem

    this is a match up I've thought of for years because of how close it is. I see a lot of people arguing about the quicksilver downplay. But let me just say that quicksilver was in one movie and was horribly inconsistent. We see in his slowed perception he's about as fast as Ultron's laser, and with how often marvel says that laser are light beams or as fast, it's not hard to assume that ultron's laser is likely no exception, it generally just makes up that Quicksilver was written from the start to always be beat on.

  • @alatus_knight
    @alatus_knight Před měsícem +3

    Thor wins as expected

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +1

      Did u watch the video😂

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 Před měsícem +1

      I dont think we watched the same video bro

    • @gamingtoast7974
      @gamingtoast7974 Před měsícem +1

      ​@user-ro3ju8ds9i Chuck literally stated thor wins more times than not. Are you an idiot?

    • @beaudennis51
      @beaudennis51 Před měsícem +2

      Nah superman negs