British Marine Reacts To Why the US Military Costs so Much
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- British Marine Reacts To Why the US Military Costs so Much
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As an American military Patriot , you Britts are our brothers and always will be. America 🇺🇸 🇬🇧
During World War 2, the United States wound up fighting two major wars against two powerful adversaries in two completely separate parts of the world, and suppplied our own frces with weapons and supplies, but also those of our allies during the war, primarily the UK and the USSR. Since then, it has been the stated military policy of the US to be able to duplicate what we did in World War 2, and win.
As someone that has a family member that trains pilots on the F35, It did start out a disaster, But it's EW has been redone from the ground up.
Now it is considered Gen 5.5 air frame, The EW capabilities are mind blowing, They it can't be locked on, Let alone shot down.
The thing can kill anything before you even know it's there, If you do by a miracle get a chance to lock on, It will just jam your jet, We couldn't even lock on the one that ran away a couple years ago lol.
If you happen to get a shot off on it, It has 3 more layers of defense. And It doesn't even have to hit you to knock you out of the sky, It's EW can just turn the enemy aircraft off. It has radar seeking bombs, So even air defense doesn't have a chance.
And just imagine how much more advanced our Jets are, Than the public even realizes
It’s always expensive to be on the cutting edge because almost every idea will fail but if you don’t try you fall behind your enemy so it’s aggregating but it’s worth it
I was on the USS Nimitz CVN 68, king of the super carriers of the time, as a nuke electrician during the refit and ships quals in Bremerton and San Diego during the early to mid 90s, and the amount of work that had to be redone and the waste I saw in the process was unbelievable to me. What was also unbelievable to me was just how huge and badass that ship was, It was 20 something years old when I was aboard and it is still sailing today. Awesome machine.
Mr Forrest! Why cant we have all the good things at once? Specifically heavy payload, range, and speed on a naval vessel. In short if we have a really heavy payload then we need larger frame weighing quite a lot(apart from that the cannons and ammunition themselves weigh a lot). That makes the vessel slower if we do not also make the engines more powerful. But a larger frame to push forth through the water and more powerful engines to maintain or increase speed will take more fuel which is the limiting factor for range i.e. increaseing something has a negative effect on at least one of the other three fronts. This can be summed up by the much catchier words of Thomas Sowell: "There are no solutions, only trade-offs"
This is of course only if we were to build a ship RIGHT NOW as technology improves efficiency and power of motors over time which means you could get both more range and more speed without reducing payload.
You can’t be shaq & also have the speed of usaine bolt & be a sumo wrestler. would be the best comparison I can come up w off the top of my head
The Zumwalt stealth destroyers have finally found a use. They are having the gun systems removed and replaced with Hyperaonic missle launchers. They are being turned into missle boats that will be tip of the spear (considering their stealth) in the Pacific.
War drives technology . Peace stagnant technology. There may be a few advances in peace. Just not to the same extent as war. Whether it is a hot war or a cold war. War drives technology
When failure is not an option!
I never want to see us unable to defend ourselves as has happened in the past. Freedom through strength has worked for decades and keeping a superior force is a deterrent.
Well, with some of the marches and sentiments screamed loudly lately and how the news and others are straight propaganda against those that usually joint the military, if it doesn't change who will really be fighting? My generation is out and done contracting. My daughter has served her time and left. And zero other kids of the men from my unit nor the units I know will join.
Why does the U.S. Military cost so much?
We are the most advanced military in the world, and the sheer amount of aircraft, ships, bases, etc. that we have is absolutely ridiculous lol. We are essentially the world's military (with the help from our allies). I'm beyond proud of our men and women in uniform, same to our allies, especially Great Britain. God bless all of them, and to you Ryan. Thank you to all of you as well.
Well our economy is huge. The spending isn’t really out of line with other powers proportionally , just a larger gdp.
@@Roger-il8iw True. I wouldn't mind seeing the percentage of other nation's military spending relevant to their total GDP compared to the U.S.
Don't forget the US fields the 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 9th largest air forces in the world; the largest and 7th largest navies in the world; and the 3rd and 15th largest standing armies in the world.
With regard to foot soldiers. As you've mentioned in other videos, the terrain in America ranges from barren hot desert wastelands to high altitude forrested mountain ranges to swamps to near continuous arctic conditions in Alaska. Sandy beaches, rocky beaches, cliff lines beaches. There are even areas that mostly simulate jungle conditions. This video showed a map of how many bases each state has. One big advantage here with the wide variety of tarrain is that our soldiers have access to about every environment you can imagine to train in. They simply travel to another base for a few weeks. While we have soldiers that specialize in a certain type of terrain, most soldiers are cross trained in several environments so they dont hit a battlefield completely unpreparred. As you have mentioned, you came here to train. I believe you've said 29 Palms? (About 200 miles from where I live in Arizona. As you know, 200 miles is right down the street in America. Lol). The ability to maintain so many large training facilities on friendly soil allows us to make the facilities permenant. In fact, towns are almost always very near these facilities. The bases provide an economic boost to these areas. They are also a virtual bridge between civilian and military life in that the 2 worlds intermingle with soldiers living on or off base, socializing on or off base and civilians holding jobs on the base. That helps the very American way of life in that our military is intertwined with society. Same with Navy and Air Force bases. Just look at San Diego, Norfolk Va to see the intertwining of our massive Navy with the civilian sectors. Heck, our ships, planes, tanks, guns and bullets are built by civillian contractors employing many hundreds of thousands of people. Almost all major sporting events incorporate some military messaging. Flyovers, parachutists, honoring soldiers on the field etc. This strategy of ingraining our massive military into every day life for many millions of Americans is a strategy born out of WWII when our goal to become a Super Power was born.
It isn't just that the US can fight any fight, it can fight multiple theaters at the same time.
We really don’t spend that much. The thing is our economy is huge. Still way bigger than China, which many think is entering decline. Economic power is everything. As a percentage of gdp, our military spending is relatively in line with other major countries. For all her faults, the us has kept the world in relative peace since ww2. Imagine if China or Russia controlled 25% of the entire world’s economy. In just 250 years the US economy has become larger that THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN UNION. That’s insane. We are very luck that we are the leader of planet earth right now. In many ways the UK is the 2nd best military still, definitely in terms of technology. Americans have a lot of patriotism and we respect the uk military more than any other.
We still need to deal with this national debt and stop printing money
@@mikalcobbs9402 it is the downfall of every empire that has ever existed
The economy isnt declining and neither is our military... political people just say these things to get voters to vote for them... its a disgrace they use our military and economy as a talking point for votes..
@mikalcobbs9402 Not necessarily stop printing money. But rather only print as much money as our GDP will allow and make a law that if National debt is ever over 3% of GDP all current congress members are ineligible for reelection.
See how quick they get spending on unnecessary things under control. Starting with how much money we send to foreign nations in "foreign aid" .
If we can't feed and house our own people we sure as hell shouldn't be sending anything to anyone else at least until we get our house in order.
@@John2r1 it’s literally money printing dude that’s the issue. The debt, government spending, all lead to money printing. It’s basic economics
Best machines, best training, best salary and benefits with volunteers, pre-deployed over whole planet ... ain't cheap!
Smedley Butler called it years before Eisenhower with his book "War is a Racket"
4:00 robo sappers would be game changer for survivability...
One of the big things not mentioned in this video is training. A good portion of the that military budget is dedicated to training. Whether that would be real world or joint exercises, exchange programs, to things like unit marksmanship qualifications and live fire ranges. I read somewhere that the average US fighter pilot has almost double the flight time than a single pilot from the next 4 air forces combined, not including simulator time. That right there is going to be one of the deciding keys to any engagement. Also, at any time there is a carrier group, a Marine Corps Expeditionary Force, and a MPS flotilla somewhere in the Atlantic and Pacific regions.
To give context, the ships built by general dynamics were built at bath iron works here in Maine. Almost everyone from the surrounding towns staff the facility, out of that, 70+% are veterans. The rest are still military families. So as far as civilian built.... I'm not certain that's an accurate depiction
Hi, old guy here who has seen just about all an old guy can see. Let us hope we get our moneys worth because our lives depend on it.. I have the faith because the first jet airplane I ever flew on, the Army had me jump out of it. I have the faith because the Army gave me hundreds of medical shots in the arm and I am still here. I have the faith because the guy that produced a video that said the Government is wasting money , this guy is still making Videos . I have the faith.
We invest in protection. That takes first place. Eating. Sleeping. human functions comes second to feelings. My son works on building the Streetfighter. He’s my hero 🤘🇺🇸
You're one of our best friends bro!❤
War is big business, Mr. Forrest. VERY BIG BUSINESS!!!!
I was staying at a hotel in Mobile, Alabama across the street from a shipyard and they had three of the Zummwalt ships docked there. They're neat looking, like spaceships floating on the water. Too bad they didn't work.
12:39 the ammo was so expensive because it didn't have dedicated manufacturing chain that would of decreased cost
Thanks Ryan keep up the good work!🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
The guy is wrong on several fronts, the ships are fixed and bugs worked out and so have the f35 thanks to Darpa.
They don't say how old this video is either.
Stealth technology developed by Lockheed Martin (the inventors of the U2, the SR-71/A-12 Aurora, the F-117, and the B-2) bankrupted the USSR, as they struggled to build stronger and stronger Radar and Radar guided missiles to try to detect and destroy the aircraft and failed. Several Migs stalled out or ran out of fuel trying to get into missile range of the SR-71, but it was flying so high up, they couldn't reach it. The U2 is still being used serving a function even with satellite imagery because of clouds and other atmospheric conditions. A lot of times the enemy finds out when the satellites are overhead, so they cover their stuff up. The U2 can fly at random times, catching them unaware.
The good news is the USA recognized the LCS ships were defective and cancelled the project.
Real estimates put the full budget at 1.5 trillion. Some of the spending is technically not considered military which is why the number looks lower than it really is. Nuclear weapons and certain contracts are off the actual budget.
you should consider doing a reaction of "Why Americans Are Such Easy Allies to Fight With: Their Perspective on Major WW2 Allies" from the front!
Sadly this is par for the course with military contracts. 200 mil becomes for 4 ships becomes closer to 500 mil and barely a single ship
And the navy will not be retiring all of those independence class ships they are going to be transferred over to the coast guard they need some more ships and these will work fine.
In short, pretty much most American companies has had contracts from the US military. Texas Instruments the people that make calculators make javelin missiles. General Electric the ones the make fridges and washing machines make the gau 8 avenger of the a10. Other companies such as Apple,Microsoft,intel all have some sort of contract by the US military.
lcs program was dropped and America will start building guided missile frigates based off European design, estimated cost around a billion usd each
last I heard on that front was that the US was looking at purchasing frigate "blanks" from either Italy or Germany, meaning the US Navy would just be buying the hulls and propulsion systems and outfitting the rest of the ship with US built weapons, electronics, and RADAR packages.
The commandos outta the UK are amongst the 'best in the world....as good as our best....and that's very F'n rare......so yea ur gettin the 'love
Definitely. I think JSOC is more effective than British special forces, but probably just do to training, funding, technology, and intelligence. The British special forces are absolutely on par though.
8:24 Lol..Not dumb, Brother.
My guess is that, as your ship's mass increases, its range and speed will be decreased in tandem and at a specific rate, similar to the Rocket Equation.
Bigger engine = More mass = More fuel needed = Larger vessel needed = Larger engine needed to carry the larger mass, And the fuel to push That additional mass, plus the mass to carry Those, plus the fuel for That mass...lol
You should see those littoral ships coming out of their warehouses on the dock when their done, the size of them!
Ryan, you cant imagine the cost of takeaways !!
Majority of wars have been started but this way more then stuff actually happening
1:38 I'd rather have a cold Beef Stew MRE, Brother...lolol
Greed and corruption seem to be what has been driving American politics for decades, as noted in the video. It's getting harder and harder here to tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats in our 2 party system.
Greed, corruption and politics plague all countries. However many countries have gotten far too comfortable with relying on the US to carry the bulk of the load of their security while they focus on internal affairs like their social system. Then you have a bunch of arrogant pompous azzes thinking their system is better. Many of them love their nanny state, universal healthcare and all that garbage and think it’s ridiculous when Americans don’t want to live in a similar utopia. Their country is broke due to funding all that garbage even with relying on the US taxpayers for their security. The hilarious thing, their universal healthcare is so great the wealthy people often come to the US for healthcare even though they got taxed to death for their “free” healthcare.
6:00 the technology isn't quite there and it sucks the gun was taken out of it. Task & Purpose did a great video on it
the Zumwalts were designed to have rail guns but the technology for that is anywhere from 25 - 75 years out for guns that size.
@joshuasill1141 well they were designed to have special bullets to move like missles. Tho I think when rail guns become a thing Battle ships will make a comeback
the video didn't really explain why the us military cost so much. sure the lcs program was a disaster and since those ships are useless in a war with china or russia they serve very little purpose and the only reason they continued building them was lobbying form the companies who designed them, that's why america stopped ordering them and instead are building the constellation class frigates. the zumwalt was just too expensive to build 60 plus ships the us needed but it was still a great ship and the three that were built are currently having their guns removed to be fitted with hypersonic missiles. the f35 was a great success just went over budget because it had to do so much on what basically is one platform to fit all the needs for all partner nations. innovation is not stifled in the us military, the amount of new technology the military invents each year is staggering, the problem that the military has is getting that technology into actual production and not just invent it and put it on a shelf. the actual biggest cost for the military is the salary for the active soldiers (1.4 million active soldiers) and maintenance of the bases overseas (900+ bases all from small outposts to large installations most of which were built in ww2 or the cold war) not the equipment. american equipment is expensive but the european counterpart is in the same ballpark so at the end of the day the only difference between european military's and the american military is scale and that's why it cost so much. almost every european nation has neglected its military spending for the past 50 years and given up most of its security obligations to america and nato, and invested all their money on social security programs that run huge deficits.
The united states is essentially the modern version of the Roman empire ( without the child war training) lol
I can offer my own views:
As a finance major & with a focus in economics, the money parts of military tech are plain- it costs 10X+ more to develop cutting edge tech that is an attempt to be simply far better than before. The R&D, the complex manufacturing, the importance of computers, the desire to fit everything together... all of this means that current high end military tech just costs billion/trillions. That's why the new UK carriers cost $4+!
All of this means that, largely, the US military must spend BILLIONS of dollars every year to try to stay ahead of what other countries spend millions on. Yes, the IMC is there & has an impact... but there is also a very dangerous world that has large minorities who would rather collectively kill people & take their things. That is why I think the US military is very expensive, why it's needed, & why I think it's a good thing it's US, not Russia/China.
There’s more to it than what he laid out but still a good video.
Much love from the USA, we're in one of the most taxed countries in the World. Our hard work pays for all this and I support our troops and want nothing but the best for our troops because they deserve it. But I don't support the war machine, that looks for conflict and only enriches a small few on the backs of our soldiers. This isn't just a USA problem, it's a global problem. There is a small few that are in control of all global finances, that control all military decisions globally, that are in most cases not wise or just. Much love to our fellow brothers and sisters in the UK, as I have English blood in me, from our ancestors.
20:23 WW2 militaries didn't have to pay for satellites, maintenance of nuclear material, and the R&D necessary to continue to lead the Free World...among many other expensive technologies that just didn't exist ninety years ago.
I work for Lockheed in Liverpool and if you're impress by what you're seeing now. Hahaha is all i have to say. China isn't ready.
China probably already has your blueprints, like they already have for the F-35.
7:17 😮😂 Right?
$100 billion to operate 800+ installations worldwide. Another 100 billion in salaries. Another $400 billion in military systems and weaponry. $100 billion to DARPA for future weapons systems. $100 billion for all other functions. That's your $800 billion in very rough guesstimate terms.
Gotta find out what doesn’t work in order to make something that does.
We protect the rest of the "Western" world from all of the threats. If European nations actually were capable of defending themselves we would not have to have such a large and spread out military.
I been saying this for years money is why wars are happening not just politics and religious
Cause the world is a rough neighborhood and somebody has to keep the barbarians in check
Better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
I read something like that were the author was making the case that $11 billion for a Gerald Ford class carrier or $4.5 billion for a Virginia-class attack sub and not having to use them to their full capability is money well spent because having to use them to their full capabilities means very bad things.
the littoral combat ships are pretty much a dead end. they have been a very expensive mistake. they were a component of a multi-pring strategy that only ever constructed the first prong. the modules were a bust because of the time to switch modules. the big stealth destroyer was designed to have the new rail guns that never materialized because of the expense of the ammo. result? we're going back to programming a new frigate.
You should react to the fat electricians videos. All of his videos are 10/10, he does a lot of military videos.
The problem was that the military designed and tested and then privatized for manufacturing. Now that privatized most of it.
We could probably get the same result for half that price if we could only get rid of the corruption involved in its use and supply.
Oh most of that money is spent on FID (Foreign Internal Defense), which is a big talking point during election cycles... but that said, we spend more money on *training* than most other countries spend on their militaries. Nobody else purchases and expends as much fuel and ammo on a yearly basis as the US does.
Why does the US military cost so much ? It's not the hardware or the personnel costs, it's due to the "non-compete" structure of most military procurement. Any well run system of contracting for hardware would require multiple bids, tight delivery windows with penalties for late delivery, and over sight with integrity. The exact opposite exists in the USA with military contractors frequently given exemptions from Law requiring multiple bids due to claims of proprietary systems. We also have a system with few if any penalties to a military supplier for cost over runs and late delivery. The USA also lacks any sort of integrity in oversight with many Congressional/Pentagon staff taking cushy jobs in the defense sector after finishing jobs in DC...there should be a minimum 5 year waiting period for any Congressional/Pentagon staff to take a job with any company awarded contracts while they were in office. The amount of DC corruption, especially in the bureaucracy, is obscene.
How would you know
A lot of the money goes to paying all the personnel
The more stuff you try, yes, there will be a lot of failures, but an increased number of successes, too.
Freedom and Independence class LCS are good for patrolling not being frigates and 3 Zumwalt class destroyers are garbage now back to the Arleigh class class than the future fleet to replace Arleigh Burke and no more Cruisers now obsolete like battleships the Tico class Cruisers.
Ex Army it sounds silly but you're British and sleep soundly knowing someone has your back. I do wish things were streamlined but we're still outpacing everyone so for that I'm happy. No one mentioned replacing the weapons we give to other countries for their defense. So yeah we pay to keep our stock pile at a level while giving things to allies.
Best comment yet. Wendover Productions clearly has a bone to pick with the military...but I guarantee that if they were taken hostage, in a foreign country, while making a documentary - they'd be the FIRST ONE's looking for some over-budget US weapon to save their asses.
To answer the reduction in percentage of innovation from the Military to the private sector...the answer is simple really. The US does not want the world to know what they have in the works and/or ready to deploy, until it needs to be used. Some say money is the major reason, but idt that is true. It is to maintain a military edge over the adversaries.
Very true. I laugh at people who think China had hypersonic weapons before we did. Just think if the helicopters used in the bin Laden raid. No one in the world even knew they existed, and they were already operational. We are 20 to 30 years ahead of China and Russia. Thank god.
in fact, they don't want you to know how bad their army is and how much money is simply stolen. That's why they tell you that they are simply hiding secret developments. What naive people you are.
Like you said. Greed n corruption. Starts at the very top. N trickles down. Such a shame. If it were done right. It would be amazing.
Stagnation, too few companies competing for government contracts
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React to US navy warship shot down drone in Red Sea.
Stealth navy baby
Our alliances are another huge reason our military budget is so massive, Ukraine is proving that fact. Yes NATO and other allies are helping, however other countries are often not actually genuine with their generosity. Look how often they want better weapons from the US to replace the weapons they send to Ukraine. The US citizens are effectively upgrading NATO countries militaries for them. How generous, especially when the threat is in your neighborhood not ours. Not only weapon systems, but Ukraine has also proven how dependent US allies are on US munitions stockpiles. In a nutshell NATO would literally be f’d and a joke if the US pulled out of the alliance. To date I think only Poland has gotten serious and realized the US may not always be able to carry the bulk of the load. Yes I said Poland.
What’s hilarious is many Europeans love their nanny state, think it’s so great with things like universal healthcare and all that garbage that they believe makes their society superior. They get taxed to death for it, lean heavily on the US for protection and the US still has a better healthcare system. There is a reason why wealthy foreigners come to the US for specialized healthcare even tho their country is taxed to death and their healthcare is “free”..
Military industrial complex, lobbying and politicians thirst for power and wealth above all else is no doubt a huge problem and major contributor. However people love to laugh at Russians struggling in Ukraine. The scene would be totally different if the US pulled out all involvement. I don’t think A lot of Europeans would be laughing as hard..
The way the government is like a union waste as much this year so we get more money next year.
We learned that being an isolationist country doesn't prevent bad things happening to you. Just because you chose to keep looking at the ground and staying out of it, doesn't mean you won't be cold-cocked. The U.S. learned this during WW1, WW2 and again on 9/11. The projection of power and being INVOLVED has been what keeps relative peace, not having constant border wars and gobbling up their neighbors territory (minus Russia, who is also learning a very difficult leason), allows for globalization and deters wars. Is it perfect? Absolutely not, the U.S. has many flaws and failed deterrence is blatant with what is happening in Ukraine. The thing with this narrator that I don't like is he doesn't really tell the full story and many times he's missing large chunks of details related to whatever hypothesis he's attempting to make.
Our beaucracy is a major part to wasteful spending, senator's and the house constantly grandstanding, fighting with military professionals who DO tell them what the military actually needs, what we need to cut and why. The lcs is a prime example, senior military kept telling and asking to cut these ships so they could put the fund's and stop wasting time clogging up the LIMITED shipyards on ship's that no longer were cost effective nor survivable. Yet! During congressional hearings, they kept saying, omg! You're gonna cut 30 ships! Then we'll only have 330... ignoring the other equation and reasoning to this decision. 1) funds being wasted on a project that no longer is conductive 2) Limited shipyards and investments made in these shipyards 3) clogging up these limited resources with something that is no longer adaptable or conducive to today's battlefield. 4) rapid growth and advancements in technology that make systems or weaponry null and void or having limited use 5) Having a somewhat unchallenged monopoly for decades
Instead of listening and adapting to advancements, we kept letting politicians make decisions instead of those who knew better, which is why after years of continuing projects that weren't successful or conducive to the future fight, we are just NOW cutting or decommissioning said project's.
Our military budget does much more than make cutting edge technology and advanced weaponry, it projects power which is a major part of deterrence, provides global security, allows for economic development and globalization, while it also PAYS the benefits for our active military professionals but also our veteran's and disabled veteran's. So sure, we waste a ton of money but in relation to our GIGANTIC economy, it's within the standard percentage of our GDP. With that we create millions of jobs, create revenue from these systems and companies which are funneled back into our economy. Accountability needs to be had but also should be held to the legislators who are bought and paid for by lobbyists. It'd be amazing if we STOP allowing politicians to make money outside of their PRIMARY job role and stopped allowing lobbyists to control and dictate said legislators. The issues are a fundamental flaw in capitalism but could be fixed by enforcement and accountability BUT that wont change nor happen when these laws and rules are made by the very people making creating them. It's greed and influence that corrupts our system.
Well many reason our military costs so much, yes corruption and greed drive up the cost, even with zero corruption, greed and waste, we’d still on top in spending for what we try to accomplish, the ability to fight another multifront world war and win, yet again. That is expensive to do, the amount of people and infrastructure let alone equipment and spare parts, etc the ability to ramp up quickly if needed, that costs a lot. And maintaining our over 800 bases…plus normal pay and benefits, then training. Then maintenance on all that equipment, from a simple pistol. To minting the worlds largest fleets of super carriers and submarines, all of which are nuclear powered, maintenance and up grades on the 400 minuteman-3 ICBM’s, plus feeding and housing, uniforms etc, for that military, then normal equipment they need, all the aircraft we have and use…and especially the R&D side of it all. Then actually trying it, and you know, making the first mass produceable, and affordable 5th gen aircraft so affordable that our tiny Allie’s can buy them in fact, as they cost similar amounts even a little cheaper, than europes “solution” to the F-35, which doesn’t have the same capabilities, isn’t stealth and costs the same or more as the basic airforce variant of the F-35, lol. Want to know why the F-35 program ran over so heavily? We’re making the most multirole strike craft. As in it’s designed to do the most amount of jobs it can. The best it can, with world class modular systems and equipment, easily upgradeable. That works for the Air Force, the navy, and the USMC, with different functions/features on each version, while mainting almost total parts compatibility, and oh it’s got to the be next gen of stealth that is cheap and easy to make stealth. And maintain, with out fancy treatments and climate controlled special hangers. And velvet gloves. And oh yeah. Make it mass produced now, and so good and attractive in all ways, that all of NATO and our Allie’s will want to buy it. And hopefully most will, so we aren’t the only nation running 5th gen aircraft. All of that is insanely expensive, not too mention how many satellites we have. Plus we do have the most expensive tanks in the world to make…and we got a lot of them, haha. We have so many the army wanted to stop buying them, as we already like 5k sitting around, doing nothing, between all the M1 models, preserved in storage…but congress told the army. No you’re gonna buy more tanks, because we can’t let that tank plant shut down. It’s the only operational one right, that can make the newest variant and has trained workers, the same with the ammo for them. It’s not that we don’t have the room, or equipment for more plants, we don’t have the need for them, and so we don’t have mass of trained people, so our few running plants of each type, or even one type depending on the system or vehicle, is all we need. We aren’t supplying ourselves, and every surviving free nation, willing to fight, and the Soviets also, well losing hundreds of thousands of tons of shipping to accidents, bad weather and tiny amount and most to U-boatspwople don’t realize how much we supplied the rest of free/fighting world against the axis powers. We have the Soviets so much canned meat their soldiers were eating the last of it in Afghanistan, 40 years after we started to supply them, we shipped like 10,000 tons of locomotive engines to them, like full up, fully functional whole locomotives, in their language, custom built to their rail gauge. In the metric units of measurement in the 1940’s…and that’s just what got there, not what was sunk at sea by u boats. And a stupid amount of rail cars to them, along with clothes and blankets. Fuel, raw materials, weapons and munitions. Gave them a stupid amount of tanks, which they used up and let them hold just long enough to get their production going again. And the Brit’s too, similar story with a lot of stuff, and the French until the total collapse. While rebuilding, and rearming ourselves, and fighting in the pacific the whole time and in Africa, supplying some to China, then Italy and hearing up for the real invasion of Europe. And not just aviation companies made planes, the most planes ever produced record is held by a ford plant, at their peak they a completed. Fully functional bomber rolling off the line every single hour. And they were working 24/7. One of the stats in 1944 we made more warships then the Japanese ever produced in total, from like 1934 until they surrendered. That same year we also made more military aircraft than everyone combined, Allie’s and enemies…we still have that base capacity lying dormant. By purposely buying shit we don’t need. Just to keep them open. And keep the institutional knowledge alive, and always training the next generation on how to do it.
I think good or bad. We 100% need them. There are to many dictatorships out there!
We need to reduce our footprint and stop funding so many countries around the world.
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Not big fan of myself but the us Navy an iron/ steel/tec claw that holds the globe( ? hostage) makes me think metorforicly of the war of worlds image ailen 3 fingers holding the planet
This is way too complex an issue to get a black-and-white answer on, for there are surely some issues caused by ineptitude, corruption, inefficiency, and just poorly timed aspects. There are great things and bad things at the same time. Is any corruption acceptable, for example...of course not, but if you gave any country the US DOD budget minus that which is spent on the Veterans or servicemembers' families, they wouldn't be able to achieve what is done by the US with that $$$. So even with all its issues, it's still the best price for the bang that can be had.
As for inflation adjustments and we’re still spending at peak WWII levels, and people not getting it, saying it doesn’t make sense? It makes perfect sense, we have over 800 bases outside the US, we maintain a fleet of 11, nuclear powered super carriers. Thats more carriers then the rest of the world combined, lol, all 290 something countries can’t field more carriers than us. Also the we have the US Air Force. The world’s largest. Most powerful and technologically advanced Air Force, and guess who the send largest and most powerful is, the US Navy, then they give stealth aircraft to us Marines also, haha. With our own mini “carriers” which are the size of the Essex class by the way. And pretty much the same size as other nations carriers and carrying far more combat power, as our LHD’s and other variants can land MEU’s that can crush most nations and we got like 9 of them, or some shit. Want to guess what the world’s second largest naval fleet is? The number one spot of course being the US Navy, the second largest fleet. Is our fleet of museum ships, yes our fleet of museum ships is bigger than any other nations active naval fleet. And more powerful as they are true blue water ships that range from the mighty USS Constitution and the world’s oldest active duty ship, still, to pre world war Dreadnoughts, to the Iowas and Carriers, of course, tons of smaller ships and submarines. All that cost money they still spend on, at times, depending on circumstances. Plus all the robot and AI shit, space, giving all our ships that can carry SM line missiles the ability to kill satellites, incoming ballistic warheads, and oh, giving our fighters to knock down satellites also…it was talked about once, like 10-15 years ago or some shit like that once, an F-15 shot down a defunct US satellite, was never brought up again, lol. So yeah like 90 plus percent of our ships can shoot down satellites now, and every fighter we have can also shoot down satellites…earth, or even high atmospheric flight to space missiles aren’t cheap, especially if you want to them to work almost 100% of the time, and actually hit and kill targets. Plus replacing our old Nimitz class super carriers with the Ford class, which cost $13 billion a piece, just for the ship not too mention their load out of modern aircraft…so that’s what, another $7 billion or so in aircraft, then you got crew, and munitions and maintenance on all that…food, etc. and oh, the world has to thank. For synthetic oil, synthetic rubber, nylon and modern plastics, from WWII we couldn’t rubber anymore, so we made it out oil, haha. Same thing with synthetic oil, and nylon/plastics, we couldn’t get silk for parachutes, or also women’s stockings, so we made nylon for parachutes, turns out works great for stockings, just like silk did. And like it said gps, the internet. The mouse, the house was a government funded, darpa project to make computers better and easier, faster to use, so is/was most of the modern world from WWII on, the biggest. Most pivotal technologies and things. Processes, we developed and paid for. Along with a lot of tactics and strategies that just work. And among the world’s best. Yes I’m aware we had help from Allie’s, either in initial research and development, or some of that, and continued throughout the project. We have always been the main funded and maker at least for most of it though, at least from WWII on, and well, we just get it right most times. Like the variant of chobbham armor our M1’s use and the challenger line use, yeah a Brit came up with the idea. They tried it, seemed good and like it’d work, they brought it to us, like hey we got this great idea, ot works good in our testing. We’ll tell you, if you help us develop it to completion. So we gave it go. And we’re like this is awesome. And better than our own ideas and experiments, now we’ll try adding our ideas to it, and we did, and boom the world’s best tank amor that had ever been developed was born….as we added or changed elements to their design. Either materials or thickness. Bigger gaps, or more layers, some combo of that. And we were like. You know what will make this even better, well nigh invincible front the front. As much as you can make that…we’re add in a layer of DU hull armor…and were also gonna shoot DU at them too, though we devolved DU APDS FS for the Brit 105mm rifles gun in the 1960’s cause we used the L7 line, fantastic gun. Fun fact in the 1960’s and 70’s even into the 80’s we were the only ones that could shoot through a T-72 and later T-80 turret at long range with the NATO standard, L7 baseline Brit main gun for tanks. Everyone else use’s tungsten shot. And couldn’t pen their frontal turret at decent range. But we could. In the mighty M60 line. Then the 120mm came along, so the others could, but DU still outranged them in capabilities.
The fact that the U.S. is spending so much money on failed weapons programs is embarrassing to me we used to provide good quality weapons systems at a reasonable cost but now with all the major companies knowing they can provide us with bad equipment and poor weapons systems at a high cost why would it change if we the American people allow it and I know people are gunna say it’s mostly black budget money that we don’t know about but as the people we have a right and a duty to make these companies produce good systems of military tech at a reasonable cost but as long as we don’t stand together it will never happen
Google stealth US aircraft carrier.
Iam okay with it spend more on military. Less on bull shit. I’d love to see the budget and give my cuts.
Wrong. Zumwalt DDG 1000 is the ultimate Streetfighter. Best of all ships. makes all other useless. Breaks the backs of all players
The future is scary
Gird up your loins, private ;-)
Imagine if Russia or China had our military or economic power. The us ain’t perfect, but she has kept the world relatively peaceful since ww2. We are very lucky to live in such a great country.
@Roger-il8iw I served in the Army in the 80's and times have charged
In my very humble opinion that video that you reacted to was full of half truths. It was developed for shock. My personal thoughts... The rest of NATO needs to pony up, and the USA needs to pony down. We need some serious internal growth and review.
ADVANCEMENTS IN WWII AND KOREA WERE MECHANICAL, THEREFORE ACHIEVED FASTER AND ESIER! NEW TECHNOLOGY IS IN SOOOOO MANY SECTORS - ELCTRONICS, COMPUTERS, METERIALS, CHEMICALS, COATINGS, AI, DETECTION, FOCUSED ENERGY, STEALTH, SENSOR RECEPTION AND EMISSIONS, ETC... and when you're right in the middle of development and new options emerge or evolve....well, start this shit over again with the new and improved widget.....then another related tech improves to another are of the project....shit, mulligan!.......then one tech turns out to be shit or underperforms..........scratch that shit, figure out another way to accomplish it or that shit over there ain't gonna work.......as you can see SHIT TAKES TIME AND COSTS MONEY!
I couldn’t imagine how much more the US would have if they didn’t waist so much of the budget. We might spend the most, but we also waist the most. Other countries(tax payers) are getting more “bang” for their buck.
The video you are watching is ignoring A LOT of the impacts that these research projects have had on the military. Even on these massive over--run and failures (F-35 has been a BS story that has been winged about and has been wrong from the start). Even on research projects like the next-gen army rifle failed, but that is where the A-COG sight came from which has massively improved accuracy, and there-by survivability of a soldier. And even the ones mentioned had multiple technological advancements that even with the project failing, the innovations made during those have been updated and fitted with those new innovations. Even when they bring this up, they negate it. Disingenuous (or ignorant to the big picture) video you picked this time.... not your fault, but this was a video with an agenda.
The LCS example looks like the absolute worst of the US MIC. But I have 1/2 the video to go. Maybe it gets less like a money pit....
I believe everything that has been said or an opinion.. I believe if you keep people thinking that what IF a war did happen, where would we be, or would we be if a war started, so we need to always be ready and that alone is why we are so ahead in technologies.. it makes sense to me. I wouldn't mind using our tax money on being the best! Just my 2 cents!
It’s really 4 trillion…
Who paid for stealth fighters? Just some food for thought here.
Back in Desert Storm Pappy Bush casually unleased stealth fighters and bombers on the world and NO ONE KNEW WE HAD THEM! They scared the crap our of our enemies AND our allies! So where was the funding for all that amazing new tech?
I don't have research for this, so I might be totally wrong here, but maybe some chunk of that "wasted defense spending" wasn't going into bad ships and messed up weapons that did not go anywhere... but instead was actually used to fund the development of stealth tech.
If so... maybe some of these examples of totally wasted DOD spending is really going to fund the next amazing development the US military will unleash on an unsuspecting world? (or maybe we just got conned into giving Raytheon a zillion dollars.... Hard to say.)
Trial and error of trying to come up with the next generations of advanced military equipment to keep US and our allies safe is expensive but necessary.
Exactly, Greed
It’s all over printed money.
Money printing will be the downfall of the country for sure.