WHICH KAYAK IS BEST FOR YOU???
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2023
- Alright guys me and John @CreekFishingAdventures decided to head up to a little river local here and take the @jacksonkayakvids COOSA X and @crescent-kayaks Shoalie and give them a run down some skinny water and compare our ideas of what we thought of each kayak!! Thanks for Watching!!!
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Thanks for taking out the Shoalie! Stoked how much you enjoyed how it paddles 🫡💪
Absolutely 🤙 thank you all for creating such an awesome skinny water kayak, my buddies John and Alex Rudd both use the Shoalie a lot and love it, I'm looking to add a creek/skinny water kayak to the fleet, definitely leaning towards the Shoalie!
@@BASSnBEER let us know if we can help
@Crescent Kayaks I would absolutely love to get into a Shoalie soon, also hoping I can get River Sports to start carrying Crescent as well!
Cool video. Thank yoy both for sharing. Gox bless you both and both your whole families....🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
great comparison video.
I think the tri tack system on the coosa is such a smart ideas!! and you can definitely see the difference even in the video! 👌🏻
Real world kayak comparisons, keep doing them!!
Good stuff. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching!
Great info
Awesome float guys! I enjoyed the kayak review. Those drone shots were great 👏🏾🎣Tight lines
Appreciate it big dog 🤙
Thanks for all the good info you both put out! I picked up a 106 PDL at River Sports last weekend and told them your videos sent me!
Good deal man, glad the videos were able to help!!
I absolutely loved it when you cracked open the Voodoo Ranger!
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Great comparison video guys! Me being 6'3", 240 lbs. and up in years I better stick with stability in the Jackson! Looking forward to when we can hook up and do a float up this way, hopefully this year!
Yeah man we will make it up that way eventually
to really feel the beauty of the X, try running a paddle like the Bending Branches Angler Pro. it will pull every once of performance out of that hull. if y'all ever come down around columbus georgia, i'll put you in mine with that paddle and i think you will be surprised!
Have had the original Coosa for years and have gone through a number of Class IIIs with it. Love the weight and how nimble it is on the river. Would not mind trying the Coosa X, just worried about the weight. Especially when fully loaded. Is it just me or is anyone else curious about a Coosa style kayak with that white water style rocker, but with a drop skeg on it? Maybe it is just because I like the whitewater part of a trip more than some folks do. Probably not much of market for it. I think what I would like is an original Coosa with a drop skeg and a little more width, stability, and the hull design of the Coosa X. Oh would need to come with custom thigh straps and associated mounts :). Ok, Eric Jackson can I come use your facility to work on this, LOL!
So I'm a shorter and smaller structured guy, 5'6" 120 I feel like the show will be ideal for me it's the one I keep falling back on. I love both kayaks but I want one that's more maneuverable than Waters even if it is a big lake. Cuz I'm short and lightweight I feel like I'd still be able to get the benefits and stability out of the shoalie. Thank you for having this kind of content it really does help me, this year I plan on buying a crescent shoalie
Yeah the Shoalie is a great little kayak, that's what I ended up with, me and a few other guys I fish with all have the Shoalies
Great comparison. I’ve owned 2 Coosa HDs and they are great river boats. I’m not sure I like the extra weight of the Coosa X.
Yeah man it's rather big
In fishing kayak, I’ll-advised.
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So, at 18:38 where you go through that shallow rocky portion, which of the two do you believe is best in that circumstance? The Coosa X is said to draft very shallow water.. But when there are rocks to navigate at the same time, does this "shallow draft ability" help get through without so much rock dragging? I realize that you may have taken a slightly different passage than your friend in the Jackson.. Besides that, which do you feel is likely to drag the rocks in those types of waters? Thank you for this comparison video.
I'm going to say I'd rather be in the shoalie going through something like that! Hard to tell which one truly floats shallower especially in spots like that where your going to hit in just about any kayak, but the fact the shoalie is just so maneuverable
Both are designed by Drew Gregory. Drew designed the 2012 Coosa to be a river and lake kayak that handles whitewater. I LOVE my 2012 Coosa. The hull flexes on it and it bounces off of rocks
I've never been in one of the original coosas but Drew broke down and explained a lot of stuff on the Shoalie for me on a trip we did a couple months ago!! why he designed it how he did etc. After I've taken it on several trips really enjoy the Shoalie!
They only need to swap the bow of the Coosa X for the bow of the Cuda. The Coosa X reminds me of someone's old bathtub. Why isn't there a Cuda in the same configuration as the Coosa X. Even with a little rocker, it would be a heck of a lot faster going upstream and probably almost as dry too. What happened to the Cuda???
I've never been in a Cuda! Yeah the coosa x is a rather big paddle kayak
What is accesory option between 2 like pedal drive system
Not sure what your asking exactly?
You need to utilize your torso and legs for more paddling power.
Can you do a video comparing the Jackson Coosa vs the Jackson Bite?
I can probably make that happen at some point
So do you guys still planing to compare all 3 with rvr?
Yes...if you head over to creek fishing adventures channel he has several on the RVR as well
I’m thinking the coosa x
I think I was leaning a little more the other way!
@@BASSnBEER for the fly fishing aspect of standing what one would be best ?
@@michaelsuk4654 coosa x for sure can't stand very well in the Shoalie!!
thoughts on the shoalie versus bonafide RVR ?
I'm for the Shoalie over both the coosa and RVR!! It's just the hulls design of the shoalie .. its just designed better for current and skinny water!! The way it tracks in the current
If you want to stand and fish I believe the Bonafide yaks are more stable. I tried a friends Sholie and it was a little tippy. After I started standing, seeing the structure and fish before they strike I couldn't go back to sitting to fish. It's also much easier to skip lures under limbs when standing.
Someone had posed the question of which one of these two would be better to stand and Fish out of the other day on Facebook, they're 6 ft 2 and 210 pds and intend on using an Xi3 Trolling Motor, so I told them the Coosa X since I'm 6ft 1 at 250 pds and Fish from a Crescent Shoalie, albeit NOT STANDING but from a seated position since standing is not its strong point. Of course everyone convinced the Guy that I was wrong, but I guess he'll find out on his own.
He will get it and probably not be to happy with the stability
@@BASSnBEER Hopefully he's happy with his purchase, I haven't kept up with how it turned out. I Love my Shoalie, just I think for his type of Fishing, he was asking a bit much of it.
I would like to see the shoalie vs bonafide video you were talking about. Got a lite tackle for river duty. Not sure if its even worth the money to upgrade to one of these. Only knock on the lite tackle is the skeg does get hung up and make it feel tippy sometimes.
I actually took the bonafide out and ended up not being able to make a video!! I'm still going to do a comparison video on those 2
hey man nice video how do they compare with our ss127s
For the river man doesn't really get much better then the Shoalie
@@BASSnBEER I really like my ss127 but it sucks in river current
@Stan Reedy yeah man it's the shape of the hull, the way the front is designed the current catches it and just throws you around!! I just spent a few days with Drew Gregory who designed the shoalie and he explained to how the designed the shoalie and man the way it cuts through the current and the way you can just paddle up Stream etc. Is just better then any of the others
I've had the Shoalie for two weeks...amazing how this boat crosses current without being turned...paddles upstream easily...turns on a dime...has very good speed in low seating position...a bit slower in the high seat position...but turns even easier...in the high position you are further back and the nose lifts up a bit more. I paddle upstream a lot...so... this is a great kayak for that. 6'4 270...34 inch inseam...plenty of extra room ...still working out the tackle and rod storage and how I want everything.
I just picked mine up today!!
@@BASSnBEER You will love it..amazing on the water ...I look forward to your videos.
The CoosaX has a dry hatch in the back that you can store keys and your wallet.
Yeah we ended up finding that afterwards lol
Its interesting to see how two different kayak companies built river type kayaks that handle very differently. But it is two different companies with different designers. It would be interesting to compare the new Coosa X to the original Coosa designed by Drew Gregory. Maybe the RVR fits in between the two if you compare its specifications.
I'm hoping that RVR is the best of both worlds...hopefully I'll get to take one out asap
with a 330lb capacity the rvr doesnt fit in anywhere especially if you are a heavy paddler.
The coosa X has a super shallow draft. TG canoe and kayak stated this about the three boats: The consensus at TGCK would be the Coosa X is the toughest and best river runner of the three pure river fishing kayaks, which includes the Shoalie and the RVR119.
The RVR has a capacity of 330 lbs because bonafide deceptively wants the boats weight subtracted from the capacity. This is ABSURD with the size and pricepoint of the boat. Not to mention people need to stop supporting a company with such deceptive and DANGEROUS practices. If you are a larger paddler the rvr has little to no wiggle room at all.
Yeah I had no idea the RvR had such a low weight capacity!! The Coosa X is a great kayak but I felt the Shoalie out performed it in the current and shallow water
@@BASSnBEER Always good to know and its nice to be able to compare boats side by side. The nearest crescent dealer to me is a few hours away. However, I was needing a boat between the Bite and the big rig when I need to haul saws but I dont need the maxed capacity of the big rig. Thats why I got my coosa X as it fit that. Im just waiting on some decent weather to get mine on the water now.
Few know about the RVR's minimal capacity Sadly even many dealers dont know that bonafide wants you to subtract the boat weight from the capacity. I've had to inform them of that.
I got burned when I got my SS127. At the time I got it, Bonafide wasnt even letting people know how they calculated capacity and were marketing it with 475lb capacity. I started loading the boat and thankfully noticed how low it was sitting at 375lbs. I stopped loading it and let others take some gear I'd expected to haul. It could have gotten very dangerous if I hadn't done that, and loaded it to the 475 lbs that I should have been able to. This is one of the reasons Im so irritated with bonafide and call them out so much.
@@MysticalDragon73 good to know!
Didn't the same guy design both hulls?...not much difference.
@crashdsnowman1 I know Drew definitely designed a lot for Jackson but not sure he designed the hull on the Coosa X or not, although they are similar
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I need a lot of help deciding on a new yak. I mainly do river cruises, no fishing which is something i want to pick up on, but i want a yak with good storage for my phone, bluetooth JBL speaker, cup holder. sit on top preferred too. I have a sit in Pelican but i feel like im done with it. I also want PDL option for going upstreams and kind of chilling out. Anyone have recommendations? Ive looked at the old town 120 and 106, moken 12.5, Hobies, perceptions and a ton more and just cant decide. I definitely want a PDL which has some sort of disconnect for shallow waters like creeks where i can flip to a paddle
Price wise the 120 pdl is a great option...but an outback is a great choice for the river plus it has the kick up fins which is awesome in the shallow stuff
@@BASSnBEER what about like creeks and stuff not fishing just cruising down the river? are they too much?
@webechubbin well really you just got to compare it to other kayaks similar!! If your still wanting somthing you can pedal, it's really hard to beat kick up fins!!!! I've taken an outback down some super skinny stuff and just pulled the drive up and it's still narrow enough it wasn't a problem to pedal!! But like I said if your still wanting to have pedals compare it to some of the others!!
@@BASSnBEER oh yeah i definitely have brother, so many options out there haha. I really like old towns, do you think its possible the pdl 120 could be a creek tripper without the PDL in for lets say a day? like my pelican is now?
@@webechubbin my buddy John has taken his down a lot of stuff