yeah i agree with u infact i have moved to linux from windows from 3 years but i still miss some editing fictionalities (only thing that i like in adobe actobate premium) that it lets you to edit pdf very extensively (you can open an image in pdf with some editing program and it just edot it in pdf ..etc and some other good features thag i really miss in linux . but I can't really afford a dead slow and insecure program anyways. if you know some good pdf editing tools then suggest me. mostly i use okular or libre draw. but i cant add images and edit images of pdf still as good as adobe provides. lastly im not defending adobe i really don't like it just mentioning some things i want to do in linux and i believe these are there , its me who can't find them in linux
I guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know of a way to get back into an instagram account? I was stupid lost the login password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
@Kenzo Markus I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Imagine going camping out in the woods and you hear something outside your tent, and you go to investigate... and you see some 30 year old boomer ranting to his camera about software.
@@Zellonous Millennials are those who reached early adulthood in the 21st century, i.e they can be from 25 to 35 years old by now. edit: early adulthood in the 2000s, not in the year 2K.
Adobe reader: Takes minutes to open a PDF Zathura: actively checks if the PDF has changed while using so little resources that the user doesn't even notice.
People use browsers in the same context that Luke uses Adobe Reader: Using a public computer that they don't own. In situations like these, you're better off using Edge rather than pulling your hair out when it takes five minutes for Adobe to open your pdf. Obviously, we'd be using some other shit if it was our own device.
Viewing a pdf in your browser is fine, it doesn't cause any of these issues that Luke talks about in this video. I wouldn't want to read through a pdf in my browser, but if I just want to print it out or check if it's the correct document then I don't see a problem.
@@Goodmanperson55 Okay, but that's not my point at all. I'm just so fucking shocked that there are people in the comments saying that they use their internet browser as their PRIMARY way to view PDFs when there are several PDF viewers specifically made for efficiently viewing PDFs. That's like primarily using Ranger to view images -- it may be possible to load images via Ranger alone, but compared to Feh or literally any other image previewer, it's way less efficient.
@@cowlikenuts Are you stupid or just plain delusional? None of them mentioned explicitly that they use it as a main. Those that mention browser comes with an implication that it's what you have to use when you don't own the computer since that's specifically one of the things that Luke talks about. Using a browser is a better alternative than using Adobe if you have no other choice.
@@ykahveci You can have 2x4 sticks in one set of banks, and 2x8 gb in the other set of banks, thus creating 24 on modern AM4 motherboards. You could also have other kinds of dual channel combinations that work well with modern cpus.
Imagine having the initials of your name and your partner's name carved into a tree in nature only to have a boomer rant about technology there 5 years later.
@@justinforseth lol i thought he meant some kind of a software thing by that name (i wouldnt be surprised, given some open source software names), not the actual thing xD
5:14 Introducing the Molasses framework: Randomly adds sleeps to your code, removes them for “improved performance,” then slowly re-adds them so you can repeat the process.
A worse application: Microsoft SharePoint. 1) It's hard to explain what it's meant for or what it does, indicating poor requirement design. 2) Not only is it itself bloated, but it also requires other infamously heavy services. 3) Out of the box it ALMOST does what you'd reasonably need, necessitating weird hacks for what should be baseline functionality. 4) Developing for it constricts one's mind around very specific obstacles, skills are almost entirely non-transferable. 5) Almost no modularity. No good modularity at all. Somehow no competitor with full feature-parity has emerged.
Worst of all time: Norton's Anti-Virus Dishonourable mentions: Kodak shareware, Finale, Windows 10, Adobe CS5 and Adobe CS6 suites that took away features, Sibelius and Pro Tools.
Proof that Luke is actually God. He is filming this video in Heaven where everything is white-washed apart from a small wooded area that he as created for his own leisure.
Skype for Business is objectively worse. Think about this: there is a dedicated IM program out there that doesn't let it's user directly access his chat history. In 2018. You can't beat that. It's actually come to the point that there now is an aftermarket plugin which deals with this specific issue.
Skype was literally better in 2006 than it is today. It was way faster in all of its operations. Now it often takes so long to “put me through” to an incoming call, the caller hangs up. Some calls don’t even ring through…I am told I “missed a call”.
I'm a software engineer and once worked with the project manager for Skype for business. We worked on a different project and in a different company. I needed to give her feedback once and tried to reach her until someone told me "she doesn't talk to engineers". Not making this up.
The installer looks like a joke. Checked twice to see if I clicked the right download link and it wasn't some kind of virus made by a 12y/o. But the program is great.
@@mynameismads2516 when you're a university student and some professor uploads an MS Word template for you to work with, believing for some reason that docx is some type of universally standard file format like ODF
In my Spanish class, the teacher always uses pdfs to show us exercises and stuff and she uses Adobe reader but it crashes every time she opens a file, so to scroll in a pdf she needs to scroll quickly before it crashes.
If what IE does is download other browsers, then it's bloat because you don't need it to be a browser too. I propose MS Paint as an alternative "Unix philosophy outside of Unix". It draws and paints and opens images and saves them. That's all.
As far as I was aware, OSX’s/MacOS’s Preview application has been able to open and close PDF’s for decades. It always performed quite nicely for me, back when I used apple’s ecosystem. I didn’t even know Adobe made a PDF reader until CC came out and tried to force me to download it.
i use Preview as well, it works pretty well for just viewing PDFs, it even has some basic editing functions. Mac users pretty much have no reason to use Adobe Reader for most day-to-day use cases. Maybe something like digital signatures or something idk
Funny thing is that my transition from hating pdf to loving it was quite seamless. Before that vid i actually never fully understood why it wasn't such a pain anymore, it just never occured to me that the moment i started using foss software was the moment it became good.
Bro no joke it literally took me 15min just to uninstall Adobe Reader because it's "gathering required information", I haven't even found an alternative yet but you opened my eyes to how much pain I've been taking as a given my entire my life
I recently started using Linux as my daily driver and today I was using some pdf's for some university work. All I could think was how much better the default reader was in Manjaro. So I'm on my windows machine now and decided to compare back to adobe reader by opening a textbook in it. It refused to open, saying I needed to reboot my computer because a new version was installed (without my knowledge). That's all I needed to see to know you're 100% correct haha.
Thanks for venting for all of us. I once had to edit moderately big PDF files and didn't know better yet. I had frequent crashes, wiping my work and nobody at the office even thought about looking for an alternative ... A year later everyone is using the one I selected in a few hours.
I’m forced to use After Effects and Flash cause there’s no good alternative and therefore stuck with windows/osx. Also IIS server can be probably set up on linux, but I didn’t manage to do it after hours of trying.
Whenever I want to use a PDF on Windows, I just drag it into a Chrome window. And on macOS, it just comes with Preview which is pretty fast to open (about 1-2 seconds), and if you really like instant open, hit space whilst a pdf is selected in Finder
I remember having to do a presentation on how to make websites using some Adobe's WYSIWYG editor. Not only the program was horrible(ended up making example site by just coding, only showed functions the editor had) but I've also had to install their cloud service. I think for real cancer you'll have to check video players of some sorts.
I felt this video in my bones haha most windows experiences are worth a rant like this. On the real, though the problem is probably using a slow HDD to load like a 2 gig program because 100% of it needs to be loaded into ram just to look at a PDF and it needs like 50 title bars so the average user base feels at home.
I totally agree. I even subscribed to you after seeing this video. I'd also like to add that you shouldn't have to pay for adobe acrobat if all you want to do is is combined pdf files together or edit them.
I honestly have to concur. I can't think of a worse program. MS Word is a close second though because it too has way too many features for its own good (ergo is bloated). Even the Microsoft developers themselves have acknowledged that. This is why they introduced what they called "hidden" menus to make the program appear to be simpler. As a writer, I am forced to use MS Word for my final drafts. But most of the actual writing is done in Sublime Text. I love that text editor.
Apple has used "Preview" since the first version of macOS. In fact the whole OS's imaging model is designed around PDF en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)#Use_of_PDF. I rank preview on the same level as mupdf and zathura in terms of speed and simplicity.
The Fury I was anti-Mac as an edgy gamer until I went to college and noticed my roommates MacBook could do this to PDFs. I was so confused as to how quick and painless reading PDFs were in not just some third party program but something integrated in the OS. It sold me on a MacBook Air that hadn’t had an issue to this day.
Järvinen Old Mac had this “just works philosophy”. You can even open .doc files with quick view(tapping 4 fingers or hitting spacebar) But you can still drop files to browser and get similar type of experience in windows computers. As everyday preview user I’ve noticed preview has some serious freezing issues with scanned documents and tiff files. I always amazed by the huge numbers of formats that Preview able to open. It can even open 3D models Adobe illustrator and psd documents It’s like VLC media player for graphics. Preview is part of QuickTime package which software it self vastly inferior compared to VLC. QuickTime still doesn’t support video playing without converting and still has no working subtitle engine. Also I hate ITunes being mess.
Nowadays firefox (and I would assume other browsers as well) have built in functionality to render pdfs just as if they were normal html pages, it's not a bad day at all to click on one.
Also, fun fact Outlook, the application for emails and calendar, depends on Adobe Reader for its integrated PDF preview... Which is weird because their new Browser Edge, has a built in pdf viewer, with some additional features as well
Outlook is the worst email client EVER. It is even worse than adobe reader. Maybe im using it wrong, but no other email client that I know of has a problem with printing Images, which are embedded in E-Mails, in the right size...
I use zathura as my main document reader, since most of the time I just have to read PDFs. Whenever I have to copy large portions of text, zathura is very annoying. I use PDF to text to solve that problem though. Last time I was given an assignment to highlight a PDF in different colors, and I had real trouble finding software to do that in GNU/Linux. Ended up having to use libre office draw which was terrible.
Back in the days when I had to do research getting my chem degree I hated reading scientific papers because scrolling down, up, and back down to read the dual column format of most scientific journals.
The reason that it's so bad is that most people are still using it, because it's "industry standard", but nobody uses IE anymore and iTunes you don't use unless you have an iPhone.
@@georgalex62 IE's share has definitely reduced but (at least according to statcounter) there are still more people using IE than Edge. gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/europe
The "books" app for iOS from Apple is worse. Whenever I search anything from a 1600page PDF, which is reasonable for books, it laggs and sometimes even quit itselff
Not so long time ago I had to use Adobe Reader on iMac 2017 with macOS High Sierra (kill me) and it was horrible. It was always f*** opening Microsoft Powerpoint on startup and when I tried to save that pdf it would just open new completly white window, so I had to save it some weird shit way and then it was finally showing correctly normal save window...
There are some files which cannot be opened in pdf reader other than Adobe Reader, especially those which have editable fields. I literally had to boot into windows just to input into the fields.
this video is the result of this dude going outside after 5 years of hard non-stop linux life and having to use a public computer to print his pdf :P jk I love this dude
There are also so many cve s and still not fixed bugs in adobe reader and nobody updates their software on windows, so its a security nightmare as well.
You could just open the PDFs on a browser like Firefox or even Chrome on a public computer. It will open relatively instantly and you can do all the things you want with it.
The only instance Adobe Acrobat was in fact not shit was when I was using the enterprise version I used for digitizing source material at a company I interned at.
You are a guy that switched me from xfce to i3-wm without realizing I can't even open shit. And now if I have to use any program with heavy gui it's literally a pain. Even if I use firefox the only thing that I have is a search bar. And Adobe Reader is a very very painful stuff. CTRL+K or something is a reader mode but still. The overhead... Agh
Newgrounds creator Tom full is working with people to make a web wrapper to facilitate that process of archiving the games. He's already done a thing with the videos and having them play in mp4 from the original flash file.
@@fburton8 the problem is lack of alternatives that can do the same thing, only more efficiently. adobe reader is an incredible resource hog and golden standard in bloatware.
@@yoshi314 I have just opened a 15.3Mb pdf file and AcroRd32.exe is taking up 18.9Mb of memory. Each of the several Chrome and Opera processes (one for each page apparently) is using much more memory - from 29Mb to 180Mb. iTunes.exe is using 424Mb(!). Even explorer.exe is using more at 25.7Mb. I'd hardly describe that as bloated, but maybe you're talking about something else?
@@fburton8 i am talking about linux version, and compared to lightweight pdf reader apps. it's an absolute unit that loads slow, has stupid ui, features nobody needs that take up space anyway and is pretty restrictive.
I used to be almost exactly the same, Luke. In the past I hated PDFs with a passion because of how much a pain it was to use Adobe. One day I started using Foxit Reader and then I discovered how astronomically faster and smoother it was compared to Adobe. From that point on I started to love PDFs.
To make matters even worse, many forms online are in pdf format where you have to fill out the pdf form and email them. It's insane that pdf's are used for online forms when html does it so much better.
My favorites: Master PDF editor (free version has a lot of features, it's based on Qt, cross-platform), SumatraPDF (irreplaceable and freaking fast, but win only :( ), Foxit (powerful, but the functionality is limited on Linux)
@Amey Narkhede mupdf is okay, but even though I've built it from source, I had some weird rendering issues, and the lack of functionality is dissapoining @Mark Zajac that's why it's third on the list, at least it's a bit more useful than Adobe garbage
@@ac130kz then try llpp its a fork of mupdf with additional features. If you are getting rendering issues try changing the backend. Opengl backend works for me
I've always used pdfs for everything, because I edit in a variety of formats. I don't think I've ever used Adobe Reader, but I haven't really used proprietary operating systems much until recently.
this seems to be a common theme with adobe applications, have you ever tried to start photoshop or premiere pro? it takes literally minutes while on linux i can open a program like this in less than 5 seconds
This is true. Windows 10 made MS Edge the default program for pdf files, lmao. The functionality is limited (no bookmarking and advanced pdf shit) but for a quick view, it's more than enough for the average normie.
I use SumatraPDF on Windows. It's really fast and responsive, open source and keeps it as simple as I need a PDF reader to be. Plus it also supports a few other formats (epub, cbz, etc.).
@@cowlikenuts Uh, excuse me, I never said I used my browser as a pdf reader. Waterfox pdf viewer is horrible. I'm just stating what people use. But if I used windows, I would prefer to use my browser than to download even more bloatware into my computer.
My answer to PDF's on Windows is always use your web browser! Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Edge even IE11 can open a PDF in a second or 2. (if I can praise IE and Edge for doing something right then Adobe has got to be awful!!
I guess you were using Acrobat instead of Reader, but although the very opposite of minimalist (Adobe Acrobat DC is >2GB), I can't agree with you on this one. My experience with opening a 800 page book on a 8 year old pc went like this: - opens in
That is my experience too. On this computer (Windows 7 32 bit, 8GB RAM), pdf docs open instantly with Adobe Reader X and I can start scrolling immediately. Feels snappy. Am I doing something wrong??
pretty much. Here it is czcams.com/video/2S0_-iNxUk0/video.html The thing that no other PDF reader gives me is the ability to print in booklet format. Why is this so difficult?
I had an experience sort of like this but with Powerpoint. I had to download a presentation for a school assignment and it was a pptx file. I hate using Powerpoint but I decided to just suck it up and open the file (this was on a school computer so it only had Powerpoint). After a few seconds I got tired of the loading screen and decided to try something else. I logged into Google Drive, uploaded the file, and opened it. When I checked the Powerpoint video it still hadn't finished loading. I'm no Google fanboy but MS Office has become _REALLY_ bloated since the days of Office '03.
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yeah i agree with u infact i have moved to linux from windows from 3 years but i still miss some editing fictionalities (only thing that i like in adobe actobate premium) that it lets you to edit pdf very extensively (you can open an image in pdf with some editing program and it just edot it in pdf ..etc and some other good features thag i really miss in linux . but I can't really afford a dead slow and insecure program anyways. if you know some good pdf editing tools then suggest me. mostly i use okular or libre draw. but i cant add images and edit images of pdf still as good as adobe provides. lastly im not defending adobe i really don't like it just mentioning some things i want to do in linux and i believe these are there , its me who can't find them in linux
that aged well
I guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know of a way to get back into an instagram account?
I was stupid lost the login password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
@Kenzo Markus I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
Takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Adobe Reader has also a "reader" mode.
When your software becomes so bloated it's initial function is now a special "mode".
that program ain't right
Literally vim
tell you hwhat
@@francisholder7570 you can literally apply that to every half-decent text editor *cough* emacs *cough*
@@allat0nce emacs is a great os, if only it had a useful editor
Imagine going camping out in the woods and you hear something outside your tent, and you go to investigate...
and you see some 30 year old boomer ranting to his camera about software.
This is exactly what I was thinking the entire time lol
Imagine sleeping in your tent and being awoke to the sound of Crunching, then you realize, it's Adobe with your head in it's mouth!
24-35 is a millennial lol. Boomers are 60+
“30 year old boomer” is a contradiction
@@Zellonous Millennials are those who reached early adulthood in the 21st century, i.e they can be from 25 to 35 years old by now.
edit: early adulthood in the 2000s, not in the year 2K.
"only has 8 gigs of RAM".
I felt an ache inside, with 4GBs on my PC.
@Just CZcams 2gb with 1.76gb usable sad lief
@Just CZcams Why blame AMD? All APUs need VRAM
I think he was being sarcastic, cuz Linux is much leaner
He didn’t mention disk speed or cpu
mine's slow too, you know a weeb's old computer.
I read the title as "Adolf Hitler is literally Hitler" and quite honestly that seems like a video Luke would make.
It's the video we all wanted.
I'll vote for Adobe
😂😂😂
Bro you got dyslexia like me
While modern twitterrors throw this name around, the only person who is adolf hitler is adolf hitler. no, your boss who fired janice isn't...
Adobe reader: Takes minutes to open a PDF
Zathura: actively checks if the PDF has changed while using so little resources that the user doesn't even notice.
i have 1gb ram core 2 duo and pdfs open instantly no delay with zathura
yoo, i just installed it and it is vim style navigation. what an amazing thing, thank you
@@natywubet2175 you got it
>people still use internet browsers as pdf viewers
the absolute state of luke's fanbase
People use browsers in the same context that Luke uses Adobe Reader: Using a public computer that they don't own. In situations like these, you're better off using Edge rather than pulling your hair out when it takes five minutes for Adobe to open your pdf. Obviously, we'd be using some other shit if it was our own device.
tell me why i shouldn't use lynx as my pdf reader?
Viewing a pdf in your browser is fine, it doesn't cause any of these issues that Luke talks about in this video. I wouldn't want to read through a pdf in my browser, but if I just want to print it out or check if it's the correct document then I don't see a problem.
@@Goodmanperson55 Okay, but that's not my point at all. I'm just so fucking shocked that there are people in the comments saying that they use their internet browser as their PRIMARY way to view PDFs when there are several PDF viewers specifically made for efficiently viewing PDFs. That's like primarily using Ranger to view images -- it may be possible to load images via Ranger alone, but compared to Feh or literally any other image previewer, it's way less efficient.
@@cowlikenuts
Are you stupid or just plain delusional? None of them mentioned explicitly that they use it as a main. Those that mention browser comes with an implication that it's what you have to use when you don't own the computer since that's specifically one of the things that Luke talks about. Using a browser is a better alternative than using Adobe if you have no other choice.
Adobe Reader be like:
-i see you got 24 gigs of RAM, i'll need about 12 of that to open this 80mb file.
@@ykahveci three sticks of ram or bust
@@ykahveci Well, I have 56GB.
@@ykahveci You can have 2x4 sticks in one set of banks, and 2x8 gb in the other set of banks, thus creating 24 on modern AM4 motherboards.
You could also have other kinds of dual channel combinations that work well with modern cpus.
@@ykahveci looks like someones never heard of tri channel
Was that chromium?
"Linux: it just works" - Luke, 2018
It gets bigger, when apt-get on it.
@@sobevtic3105 You talk about arch right
Auron Kardek you shall capitalize Arch when you speak of Him, heathen. The Arch way is the True way.
("Linux: it just works" - Luke, 2018) - James, 2018
linux is king crimson
Imagine having the initials of your name and your partner's name carved into a tree in nature only to have a boomer rant about technology there 5 years later.
What an honor
Adobe Reader's primary function is letting you read PDFs. It requires 3 upgrades a month to do so.
Has to make NSA dump , just encase you made a meme that hurt Biden's feelings.
The "Love" on the tree really brings this video together.
"its like the Source code was coded in molasses". LMAO
What is molasses? Non-native speaker here
ward0 It’s kinda like syrup. It’s a liquid that moves very slowly.
@@justinforseth lol i thought he meant some kind of a software thing by that name (i wouldnt be surprised, given some open source software names), not the actual thing xD
@@claudespeed13579 if you speak spanish, molasses = melaza
I'm offended
5:14 Introducing the Molasses framework: Randomly adds sleeps to your code, removes them for “improved performance,” then slowly re-adds them so you can repeat the process.
A worse application: Microsoft SharePoint.
1) It's hard to explain what it's meant for or what it does, indicating poor requirement design.
2) Not only is it itself bloated, but it also requires other infamously heavy services.
3) Out of the box it ALMOST does what you'd reasonably need, necessitating weird hacks for what should be baseline functionality.
4) Developing for it constricts one's mind around very specific obstacles, skills are almost entirely non-transferable.
5) Almost no modularity. No good modularity at all.
Somehow no competitor with full feature-parity has emerged.
Games for Windows Live :4)
+1
Is Sharepoint a product? I thought it was a name for, like, cloud-office
SharePoint is aids
Worst of all time: Norton's Anti-Virus
Dishonourable mentions: Kodak shareware, Finale, Windows 10, Adobe CS5 and Adobe CS6 suites that took away features, Sibelius and Pro Tools.
Proof that Luke is actually God. He is filming this video in Heaven where everything is white-washed apart from a small wooded area that he as created for his own leisure.
created using vim, of all things.
Like when Sisko encounters the Prophets in DS9. I know that's gay of me to bring up but still..
@@desktorp Dark Souls 9? That doesn't come out for 23 years!
@@allegoricalstatue Praise the SUN my man!
@@bialcus69
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When I am forced to use a school computer, I open PDF files through the browser so I do not have to wait for adobe reader to open.
Everytime
Skype for Business is objectively worse. Think about this: there is a dedicated IM program out there that doesn't let it's user directly access his chat history. In 2018. You can't beat that. It's actually come to the point that there now is an aftermarket plugin which deals with this specific issue.
Microsoft bought Skype. Microsoft made Skype for business. What did you expect?
Microsoft Authenticator is as bad too. No way at all to access your TOTP secrets
Skype was literally better in 2006 than it is today. It was way faster in all of its operations. Now it often takes so long to “put me through” to an incoming call, the caller hangs up. Some calls don’t even ring through…I am told I “missed a call”.
I'm a software engineer and once worked with the project manager for Skype for business. We worked on a different project and in a different company. I needed to give her feedback once and tried to reach her until someone told me "she doesn't talk to engineers". Not making this up.
For Windows i recommend Sumatra PDF instead of Adobe
The installer looks like a joke.
Checked twice to see if I clicked the right download link and it wasn't some kind of virus made by a 12y/o.
But the program is great.
@@RedFenceAnime I install it via ninite, so I never had to see the installer
@@hoikay1 >ninite
>Not chocolatey
Christ
Sadly these PDF readers keep turning into Adobe, for many years Foxit was a great lightweight reader, now it is possibly even slower then Adobe.
For Windows I recomend $ dd if="/dev/zero" of=
>I'm not a hipster
>Yeah I don't even have a program that opens doc
When do you realistically need to open a doc file anyway
@@mynameismads2516 when you're a university student and some professor uploads an MS Word template for you to work with, believing for some reason that docx is some type of universally standard file format like ODF
In my Spanish class, the teacher always uses pdfs to show us exercises and stuff and she uses Adobe reader but it crashes every time she opens a file, so to scroll in a pdf she needs to scroll quickly before it crashes.
Norton. Checkmate, Luke.
Agree 100%. See my later comment.
Norton is literally satan
Ma man makin videos in tha jungle.
Take a shot every time Luke says pdf
You mean "take a shot at The Man" every time Uncle Ted II says "PDF"?
buckshot
... and then make a pdf.
IE follows the unix philosophy, do one thing and do it well: dowload chrome or firefox
If what IE does is download other browsers, then it's bloat because you don't need it to be a browser too.
I propose MS Paint as an alternative "Unix philosophy outside of Unix". It draws and paints and opens images and saves them. That's all.
As far as I was aware, OSX’s/MacOS’s Preview application has been able to open and close PDF’s for decades. It always performed quite nicely for me, back when I used apple’s ecosystem. I didn’t even know Adobe made a PDF reader until CC came out and tried to force me to download it.
i use Preview as well, it works pretty well for just viewing PDFs, it even has some basic editing functions. Mac users pretty much have no reason to use Adobe Reader for most day-to-day use cases. Maybe something like digital signatures or something idk
Ughhh, Adobe Reader wastes so much time!
> Watches 11 minute video complaining about Adobe Reader
Without even showing it. Like come on, dude, you should put at least some effort into editing your videos
Funny thing is that my transition from hating pdf to loving it was quite seamless. Before that vid i actually never fully understood why it wasn't such a pain anymore, it just never occured to me that the moment i started using foss software was the moment it became good.
Up next from Uncle Luke: Microsoft Office is LITERALLY Stalin
"Adolf Reader" is what I accidentally read in the title after seeing the Nazi flag on the thumbnail.
Mac has "Preview" its pretty good! You can even combine PDFs nicely without paying adobe tax :D
This
Pro tip, keep a flashdrive with Sumatra PDF portable. for emergency windows use of course. (I also keep gimp on there too)
@Recreational Plutonium nice projection and ad hom
Install arch on an USB stick and boot into freedom, not from hard drive
PortableApps.com is good for that.
@@oshgnacknak72 Install Gentoo on the main hard drive and then your PDF reader of choice, probably will take less time that starting Adobe reader
Any Industry standard of Notation Software is actually worse.
Check tantacrul's video on Sibelius.
I use Sibelius, it’s absolute cancer.
Don't even make me get started on Pro Tools for mixing and audio production...
@@claudespeed13579 Is there a usable open source alternative?
@@iluan_ Ardour is the popular choice but I'd recommend LMMS, it's multiplatform and you can run pretty much any VST in it on Linux via Wine
@@claudespeed13579 I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation.
These hearts on the tree makes me question myself who takes a knife for a date
a man
some take an axe..
Johnathan Joestar (le XD)
@@core-nix1885 soy
Bro no joke it literally took me 15min just to uninstall Adobe Reader because it's "gathering required information", I haven't even found an alternative yet but you opened my eyes to how much pain I've been taking as a given my entire my life
If you use a pdf reader instead of your browser, you are a boomer
I recently started using Linux as my daily driver and today I was using some pdf's for some university work. All I could think was how much better the default reader was in Manjaro. So I'm on my windows machine now and decided to compare back to adobe reader by opening a textbook in it. It refused to open, saying I needed to reboot my computer because a new version was installed (without my knowledge). That's all I needed to see to know you're 100% correct haha.
Ya got DUPED
while watching this, I opened adobe reader at the start, the rant ended, and it still wasn't up.
Thanks for venting for all of us.
I once had to edit moderately big PDF files and didn't know better yet. I had frequent crashes, wiping my work and nobody at the office even thought about looking for an alternative ...
A year later everyone is using the one I selected in a few hours.
I’m forced to use After Effects and Flash cause there’s no good alternative and therefore stuck with windows/osx. Also IIS server can be probably set up on linux, but I didn’t manage to do it after hours of trying.
blazeaster I thout Flash is dead?
"30-year-old boomer gives top ten reasons for not liking this pdf program, and why that's a good thing."
Whenever I want to use a PDF on Windows, I just drag it into a Chrome window. And on macOS, it just comes with Preview which is pretty fast to open (about 1-2 seconds), and if you really like instant open, hit space whilst a pdf is selected in Finder
Remember when it was called Adobe Acrobat and it actually served a useful function?
It still exists, and it's now even bigger than before (practically 2 gigs for render, index and/or make PDF's even in their latest implementations).
I remember having to do a presentation on how to make websites using some Adobe's WYSIWYG editor. Not only the program was horrible(ended up making example site by just coding, only showed functions the editor had) but I've also had to install their cloud service. I think for real cancer you'll have to check video players of some sorts.
If you're a normie Linux user and use KDE, Okular is a good program
Your avatar and your early videos showing your face... perfect match.
I remember Homer greatly talking about it once in the Simpsons.
Hey stfu
Yeah I like Okular very much. I think other DE can install it too right?
You can just use zathura as well which is much better overall
I felt this video in my bones haha most windows experiences are worth a rant like this. On the real, though the problem is probably using a slow HDD to load like a 2 gig program because 100% of it needs to be loaded into ram just to look at a PDF and it needs like 50 title bars so the average user base feels at home.
I totally agree. I even subscribed to you after seeing this video. I'd also like to add that you shouldn't have to pay for adobe acrobat if all you want to do is is combined pdf files together or edit them.
I honestly have to concur. I can't think of a worse program. MS Word is a close second though because it too has way too many features for its own good (ergo is bloated). Even the Microsoft developers themselves have acknowledged that. This is why they introduced what they called "hidden" menus to make the program appear to be simpler.
As a writer, I am forced to use MS Word for my final drafts. But most of the actual writing is done in Sublime Text. I love that text editor.
Unabomber 2 when?
Adobomber
On Macs, as far as I can remember, they've used a program called Preview to view pdfs (it's also an image viewer), and it's alright.
it's good enough for most use-cases
My resolution is down to 144p but I’m pretty sure that was a gnu symbol over that heart on the tree
Love the ad for Adobe Premiere in the middle of this.
Forum wen?
Apple has used "Preview" since the first version of macOS. In fact the whole OS's imaging model is designed around PDF en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)#Use_of_PDF. I rank preview on the same level as mupdf and zathura in terms of speed and simplicity.
Yeah except for whatever reason the font rendering in preview is so blurry I have to make the PDF the width of the screen to be readable.
The Fury I was anti-Mac as an edgy gamer until I went to college and noticed my roommates MacBook could do this to PDFs. I was so confused as to how quick and painless reading PDFs were in not just some third party program but something integrated in the OS. It sold me on a MacBook Air that hadn’t had an issue to this day.
Järvinen Old Mac had this “just works philosophy”. You can even open .doc files with quick view(tapping 4 fingers or hitting spacebar) But you can still drop files to browser and get similar type of experience in windows computers. As everyday preview user I’ve noticed preview has some serious freezing issues with scanned documents and tiff files. I always amazed by the huge numbers of formats that Preview able to open. It can even open 3D models Adobe illustrator and psd documents It’s like VLC media player for graphics. Preview is part of QuickTime package which software it self vastly inferior compared to VLC. QuickTime still doesn’t support video playing without converting and still has no working subtitle engine. Also I hate ITunes being mess.
Nowadays firefox (and I would assume other browsers as well) have built in functionality to render pdfs just as if they were normal html pages, it's not a bad day at all to click on one.
So annoying when someone sends you a doc file and you're like... why?
A program worse than Adobe Reader?
MS Office....
Also, fun fact
Outlook, the application for emails and calendar, depends on Adobe Reader for its integrated PDF preview...
Which is weird because their new Browser Edge, has a built in pdf viewer, with some additional features as well
Outlook is the worst email client EVER. It is even worse than adobe reader. Maybe im using it wrong, but no other email client that I know of has a problem with printing Images, which are embedded in E-Mails, in the right size...
The sad part is that i used to unironically use ms office
You know what's worse than MS Office?
Office 365 or more appropriately Office 265
MS Offlag
I use zathura as my main document reader, since most of the time I just have to read PDFs. Whenever I have to copy large portions of text, zathura is very annoying. I use PDF to text to solve that problem though.
Last time I was given an assignment to highlight a PDF in different colors, and I had real trouble finding software to do that in GNU/Linux. Ended up having to use libre office draw which was terrible.
Okular does what you want very well.
emacs can do that
Always a pleasure to watch you REEE Luke. Godspeed and happy thanksgiving
Back in the days when I had to do research getting my chem degree I hated reading scientific papers because scrolling down, up, and back down to read the dual column format of most scientific journals.
I agree it's bad, but is it as bad as internet explorer or iTunes?
The reason that it's so bad is that most people are still using it, because it's "industry standard", but nobody uses IE anymore and iTunes you don't use unless you have an iPhone.
@@georgalex62 IE's share has definitely reduced but (at least according to statcounter) there are still more people using IE than Edge. gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/europe
iTunes isn't that bad to use, it's just insanely bloated and slow. It does get the job done, though.
@@b87b84 Yeah it does. Slowly, but it does the job.
Yes
I just open the pdfs in my browser.
You can always open the PDF on Chrome/Firefox/Edge (Windows 10) or even Microsoft Word 2013 or later
The "books" app for iOS from Apple is worse. Whenever I search anything from a 1600page PDF, which is reasonable for books, it laggs and sometimes even quit itselff
Not so long time ago I had to use Adobe Reader on iMac 2017 with macOS High Sierra (kill me) and it was horrible. It was always f*** opening Microsoft Powerpoint on startup and when I tried to save that pdf it would just open new completly white window, so I had to save it some weird shit way and then it was finally showing correctly normal save window...
why, MacOS 10 has always had a built in pdf reader that actually works. MacOSs color correction, and PDF support are whats actually good about it.
>MSoffice and Adobe reader on OSX
@@rednight2476 It wasn't my PC, I don't use macOS and I hate macOS. I had to merge 3 pdfs together.
@@username65585 I'm not using macOS myself... I'm using Arch...
Is the Creative Cloud the Lügenpresse?
It's the Pinocchio-Presse
literally got an adobe ad watching this
There are some files which cannot be opened in pdf reader other than Adobe Reader, especially those which have editable fields. I literally had to boot into windows just to input into the fields.
those trees lol
this video is the result of this dude going outside after 5 years of hard non-stop linux life and having to use a public computer to print his pdf
:P jk I love this dude
There are also so many cve s and still not fixed bugs in adobe reader and nobody updates their software on windows, so its a security nightmare as well.
"less" will open most pdf's , with redirection you get a text file. ie less your.pdf > mytext.txt.
@2:21 omg Luke get away from the sex tree
yeah sex is overrated
sex with tree? what's the word for bestiality on plants?
Somebody's got wood...
@@dachd vegiality
Luke, they're make it like Vim. After you suffer learning it, it's hard to switch to an alternative.
You could just open the PDFs on a browser like Firefox or even Chrome on a public computer. It will open relatively instantly and you can do all the things you want with it.
The only instance Adobe Acrobat was in fact not shit was when I was using the enterprise version I used for digitizing source material at a company I interned at.
Mac OS uses built it Preview App which works, fast, even on my decade old macbook pro, thank god for that and not damned adobe reader.
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@Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji I was hoping for this reply
Evince is pure shit, Zathura and Mupdf are the real contenders
9 minutes into this rant CZcams showed me a "Say it with Adobe Stock" ad haha
You are a guy that switched me from xfce to i3-wm without realizing I can't even open shit. And now if I have to use any program with heavy gui it's literally a pain. Even if I use firefox the only thing that I have is a search bar. And Adobe Reader is a very very painful stuff. CTRL+K or something is a reader mode but still. The overhead... Agh
I wonder what if someone did a libre version of flash.
Since no flash support by 2020.
Gnash and Lightspark exist but I don't see a lot of Flash content anymore these days.
Man!
All browsers are getting rid of Flash! It's slow and insecure.
Search for "Flash is dying?"
@@psychicist Thanks, I hope the end of support ordeal will bring some spark to these projects. Can't loose Newgrounds.
WE GOTTA BRING BACK SHOCKWAVE GAMES! I NEED MY NINJA ONE BUTTON MASH GAME!
Newgrounds creator Tom full is working with people to make a web wrapper to facilitate that process of archiving the games. He's already done a thing with the videos and having them play in mp4 from the original flash file.
adobe reader is unfortunately one of few pdf readers that supports interactive forms and validates the signatures of pdfs.
So just use Adobe Reader then, what's the problem?
@@fburton8 the problem is lack of alternatives that can do the same thing, only more efficiently. adobe reader is an incredible resource hog and golden standard in bloatware.
@@yoshi314 I have just opened a 15.3Mb pdf file and AcroRd32.exe is taking up 18.9Mb of memory. Each of the several Chrome and Opera processes (one for each page apparently) is using much more memory - from 29Mb to 180Mb. iTunes.exe is using 424Mb(!). Even explorer.exe is using more at 25.7Mb. I'd hardly describe that as bloated, but maybe you're talking about something else?
@@fburton8 i am talking about linux version, and compared to lightweight pdf reader apps. it's an absolute unit that loads slow, has stupid ui, features nobody needs that take up space anyway and is pretty restrictive.
@@yoshi314 Fair enough. It's weird and disappointing that Adobe can't produce a decent linux version.
I used to be almost exactly the same, Luke. In the past I hated PDFs with a passion because of how much a pain it was to use Adobe. One day I started using Foxit Reader and then I discovered how astronomically faster and smoother it was compared to Adobe. From that point on I started to love PDFs.
Yep!
Foxit Reader or Sumatra PDF!
To make matters even worse, many forms online are in pdf format where you have to fill out the pdf form and email them. It's insane that pdf's are used for online forms when html does it so much better.
My favorites: Master PDF editor (free version has a lot of features, it's based on Qt, cross-platform), SumatraPDF (irreplaceable and freaking fast, but win only :( ), Foxit (powerful, but the functionality is limited on Linux)
Try mupdf. It has extremely clean UI which doesn't bleed your eyes by useless menu bars
Foxit is malware. It’s bloated and slow as hell. It phones home to your mom as well.
@Amey Narkhede mupdf is okay, but even though I've built it from source, I had some weird rendering issues, and the lack of functionality is dissapoining
@Mark Zajac that's why it's third on the list, at least it's a bit more useful than Adobe garbage
@@ac130kz then try llpp its a fork of mupdf with additional features. If you are getting rendering issues try changing the backend. Opengl backend works for me
Mikhail Krassavin okay. Cool.
Preview. MacOS uses Preview to view PDF files. And it's editable to some extent.
I've always used pdfs for everything, because I edit in a variety of formats. I don't think I've ever used Adobe Reader, but I haven't really used proprietary operating systems much until recently.
this seems to be a common theme with adobe applications, have you ever tried to start photoshop or premiere pro? it takes literally minutes while on linux i can open a program like this in less than 5 seconds
No one opens pdfs on adobe reader nowadays on windows. Most browsers are able to open pdfs, that's why adobe stopped updating adobe reader
imagine using your fucking browser as a pdf viewer
This is true. Windows 10 made MS Edge the default program for pdf files, lmao. The functionality is limited (no bookmarking and advanced pdf shit) but for a quick view, it's more than enough for the average normie.
I use SumatraPDF on Windows. It's really fast and responsive, open source and keeps it as simple as I need a PDF reader to be. Plus it also supports a few other formats (epub, cbz, etc.).
@@daskadse769 Sumatra FTW
@@cowlikenuts Uh, excuse me, I never said I used my browser as a pdf reader. Waterfox pdf viewer is horrible. I'm just stating what people use. But if I used windows, I would prefer to use my browser than to download even more bloatware into my computer.
WIndows 8 has pdf reader that allow you to draw inside and save it.
I couldn't agree more, I have often got them confused. ps do a video on Zathura usage to encourage people to try it.
If opening blueprints it's snapshot feature is very good, other readers don't have in Win.
My answer to PDF's on Windows is always use your web browser! Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Edge even IE11 can open a PDF in a second or 2. (if I can praise IE and Edge for doing something right then Adobe has got to be awful!!
I guess you were using Acrobat instead of Reader, but although the very opposite of minimalist (Adobe Acrobat DC is >2GB), I can't agree with you on this one.
My experience with opening a 800 page book on a 8 year old pc went like this:
- opens in
That is my experience too. On this computer (Windows 7 32 bit, 8GB RAM), pdf docs open instantly with Adobe Reader X and I can start scrolling immediately. Feels snappy. Am I doing something wrong??
pretty much. Here it is czcams.com/video/2S0_-iNxUk0/video.html
The thing that no other PDF reader gives me is the ability to print in booklet format. Why is this so difficult?
Nice job on the video thumbnail!
I got an ad for photoshop halfway through the video lmao
Why do you need another PDF reader? Why not just use your browser?
Firefox, Chrome and I believe even Chromium all can read PDF just fine.
I disagree, Adobe has certainly did some things wrong.
hey weren't you the man who allegedly died from laughter?
I had an experience sort of like this but with Powerpoint. I had to download a presentation for a school assignment and it was a pptx file. I hate using Powerpoint but I decided to just suck it up and open the file (this was on a school computer so it only had Powerpoint). After a few seconds I got tired of the loading screen and decided to try something else. I logged into Google Drive, uploaded the file, and opened it. When I checked the Powerpoint video it still hadn't finished loading. I'm no Google fanboy but MS Office has become _REALLY_ bloated since the days of Office '03.
macOS uses the Preview app to open PDFs now