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  • Manchester City fan reveals why they do not think the club's success is down to the amount of money they have spent but their manager Pep Guardiola.
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  • @darkwa456
    @darkwa456 Pƙed 14 dny +55

    Interesting how it's always the teams that spend the most money that say "it's not about money"

    • @jawadmokhtari7445
      @jawadmokhtari7445 Pƙed 14 dny

      Because they're the ones that are acused of that 😏😒 smart ass

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Pƙed 14 dny +15

      - Utd outspent City
      - If it's all down to Money
      - Utd should be winning more than City,no?

    • @adriandenton6637
      @adriandenton6637 Pƙed 14 dny +2

      @@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Nobody really cares about either of the teams. Just sensationalism, news paper fodder and billions of pounds thrown around like its paper. Off to super league and matches in Singapore and LA.

    • @callumkeating9606
      @callumkeating9606 Pƙed 14 dny +2

      ​@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings typical city goof mentioning united 😂

    • @MrBrasserie
      @MrBrasserie Pƙed 14 dny +3

      @@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings city spent 422m on wages, united 200m, liverpool 140, arsenal 180m
      so what you say about that?

  • @holgz
    @holgz Pƙed 14 dny +39

    It’s not about the money “we’re paying the biggest manager salary in the world” 😂😂

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Pƙed 14 dny +7

      Isn't Simione the highest paid Manager?đŸ€Ł

    • @drep9028
      @drep9028 Pƙed 13 dny +1

      Pep deserves his money. Nothing wrong with paying a man what he's worth. It's called being a good employer

    • @user-mm6pb1eb1c
      @user-mm6pb1eb1c Pƙed 13 dny +3

      Fergie was the highest paid in prem lge in his time.
      Then Mourinho and recently klopp was paid the highest salary in lfc history.

    • @spark556
      @spark556 Pƙed 11 dny +1

      Actually they don't. Believe it or not, Diego Simeone at Atletico is getting paid the most in Europe by far lol

    • @thetruth1144
      @thetruth1144 Pƙed 10 dny +1

      @@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsi thought that by a clear margin as well double pep apparently

  • @garywallace5602
    @garywallace5602 Pƙed 14 dny +38

    City's success is down to Pep? Didn't City start winning trophies under Mancini, then Pellegrini? Without, their Billionaire owners, the only titles City would be winning is the League Two and One titles.

    • @marvinbrando722
      @marvinbrando722 Pƙed 14 dny +2

      Like 3 in a row ? Don't think so

    • @MarkRyan-zp7us
      @MarkRyan-zp7us Pƙed 14 dny +1

      We won the lottery but utd have spent more. And Chelsea . Arsenal since Arteta.

    • @garywallace5602
      @garywallace5602 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      @@marvinbrando722 Without your owners, City would still be 50+ years without a Title. Not entirely true...they'd still have the "Noisy neighbours" title.

    • @AlexRichie
      @AlexRichie Pƙed 14 dny

      @@garywallace5602hhhaaa spot on lol

  • @cosmicslop1272
    @cosmicslop1272 Pƙed 14 dny +54

    Funny how when they had hardly any money they didn’t win a thing and were relegated a few divisions. Now they have money they win everything. Must just be a coincidence 🙄

    • @i.m1981
      @i.m1981 Pƙed 14 dny +7

      They now have pep though and won a treble but previous managers with all the money didn't win a treble. Yes they won trophies but none have been as successful as pep. And I'm not a city fan.

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf Pƙed 14 dny +2

      @i.m pep has only ever managed the 3 richest clubs in spain, germany and England
.
      Fact!
      Klopp isnt about money!

    • @bigpoppaHH69
      @bigpoppaHH69 Pƙed 14 dny

      It took pep.around.6 years to do that none of the other manager were there as long ​@@i.m1981

    • @bigpoppaHH69
      @bigpoppaHH69 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      @@docholiday-lm4vf klopp isn't about money... Spends half a billion on his Liverpool team 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bigpoppaHH69
      @bigpoppaHH69 Pƙed 14 dny

      @@docholiday-lm4vf klopp has spent loads 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ricky8448
    @ricky8448 Pƙed 14 dny +46

    Would city get pep without money? Debate solved

    • @thisricardopalma
      @thisricardopalma Pƙed 14 dny +3

      And all those world class players as well.

    • @dragonwizard0d
      @dragonwizard0d Pƙed 14 dny +10

      But would any other team?

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Pƙed 14 dny +8

      What club does? Like it or not Man City have always been a working class team, before the investment they had the same amount of European trophies that Arsenal still have and no elite club in the world has stayed truly and utterly organic. Didn't United buy the best in 90s? Liverpool in the 80s? Haven't Madrid always gone for the best? 99% of the elite teams poach other great players. People will complain about City but not support their local team and if Pep or any of these top players are so charitable why don't they go play for the little teams out the kindness of their heart.

    • @sayandeb6459
      @sayandeb6459 Pƙed 14 dny

      Just like all other teamsđŸ€Ąâ€‹@@thisricardopalma

    • @nichalosclarke7271
      @nichalosclarke7271 Pƙed 14 dny +6

      Would the biggest clubs in the world be were they are without money.

  • @matthewmacini1773
    @matthewmacini1773 Pƙed 14 dny +21

    Why is the first caller only going back 5 years? Lets go back 10 years and look at the spending.

    • @Rob-hy8vb
      @Rob-hy8vb Pƙed 14 dny +3

      Agreed, Remember them buying Robinho 😂

    • @GraniteShaker
      @GraniteShaker Pƙed 14 dny +2

      ​@Rob-hy8vb or the three or four years of spending 50 mil on defenders, who didn't work out then just replacing them the next year with more 50 mil defenders. Other clubs would have to eat those mistakes, but city just bought more solutions.

  • @kiptonanthony3362
    @kiptonanthony3362 Pƙed 14 dny +9

    Pep is a money manger......look at the clubs his been at ....man city is a money team....but i have no problems with any of that...my point is this ...pep would not be able to win the league or champ league if his team was on a budget....thats why i ALWAYS say jose is a better manage then him (look what he did with Porto) .......pep is a hybrid manage and so is MAN city.........

    • @Musa-du1wk
      @Musa-du1wk Pƙed 14 dny +1

      did jose coach a second division team and won them a ucl

    • @jonathankennedy1715
      @jonathankennedy1715 Pƙed 13 dny

      ManCheaty 115+ I call it plastic manufactured bought success

    • @rrjgpl
      @rrjgpl Pƙed 11 dny +1

      But Jose didn't win UCL with more rich teams. He shines as an underdog, not when managing the favorites.

    • @lloydndhlovu7985
      @lloydndhlovu7985 Pƙed 9 dny

      ​@@rrjgpl Roma booted that fraud out!

  • @juliushibbert3334
    @juliushibbert3334 Pƙed 14 dny +6

    love how everyone conveniently forgets the doping allegations that follow Pep's squads throughout his career

  • @user-ne3sy9gj5p
    @user-ne3sy9gj5p Pƙed 14 dny +27

    It's amazing what can be achieved with ÂŁ2 billion spent. With a possible 115 allegations levied against the club including that of charges of financial irregularity! It's a real fairytale.

    • @craigb7338
      @craigb7338 Pƙed 14 dny

      Seems like you crawled into this world yesterday...I'm no man city fan, but boy, you sound really dumb. Are you?

    • @limbolala1
      @limbolala1 Pƙed 14 dny

      Cry hard

    • @martinpeters9753
      @martinpeters9753 Pƙed 14 dny

      Notmanchester utd spent the same, difference is

    • @MrBrasserie
      @MrBrasserie Pƙed 14 dny

      422m wage bill ...

    • @martinpeters9753
      @martinpeters9753 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      @@MrBrasserie yea never understood how notmanchester utd could afford that 😊

  • @Kwami357
    @Kwami357 Pƙed 14 dny +23

    It's sad that people forget United, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea spent to win trophies

    • @6figuregainz856
      @6figuregainz856 Pƙed 14 dny +18

      All of them team earned their money 💰 man city cheated

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Pƙed 14 dny

      How did they "earn" their money? They never invested? It was organic was it?@@6figuregainz856

    • @salex8813
      @salex8813 Pƙed 14 dny +4

      No where near that much city have had to spend before the money they was a mid table club at best 😂😂😂

    • @vPzWalkerx
      @vPzWalkerx Pƙed 14 dny +4

      How many of those clubs where being invested for 100+ charges at the time of them winning?

    • @user-vo8fk9lf1e
      @user-vo8fk9lf1e Pƙed 14 dny

      Not chelsea​@@6figuregainz856

  • @oshanepagon2121
    @oshanepagon2121 Pƙed 14 dny +7

    Pep is a LEGEND no doubt!! When Man United usually spend loads of money to win the league .. nobody no pundits said it was money let them win .. they all have Alex Ferguson the glory.. PEP DESERVES HIS CREDIT

    • @rambochapman9844
      @rambochapman9844 Pƙed 12 dny

      They don’t break rules

    • @discodave8412
      @discodave8412 Pƙed 7 dny +1

      Because the money came from winning trophies and global merchandising....remind me where City's money came from again??

    • @oshanepagon2121
      @oshanepagon2121 Pƙed 7 dny

      @@discodave8412 kmt stop your f**kry!!! before Man United won they start spending.. they were the first club to start splash out big big money on players.. u people too BADMIND and GRUDGEFUL

    • @oshanepagon2121
      @oshanepagon2121 Pƙed 7 dny

      @@rambochapman9844 it's not that.. Man united was the face of England and face of the Premier league afue .. they won't shame them like that.. but because Man City the blues take over Manchester and England they just want to cook something up so man ciry fall for united to rise again

  • @RFCDAY
    @RFCDAY Pƙed 14 dny +4

    City will see Simon in court.

  • @alexischristou3266
    @alexischristou3266 Pƙed 14 dny +14

    Nobody is denying Pep is a world class coach and has created a fantastic team that City have at the moment.
    Additionally nobody can deny the fact as well that Pep as a manager has now spent the most money on purchasing players in football history.

  • @tinygreen4307
    @tinygreen4307 Pƙed 14 dny +4

    Lets be serious what they spent and what they REALLY spent is the 115 elephants in the roomđŸ„¶

    • @rambochapman9844
      @rambochapman9844 Pƙed 12 dny

      50 million for Halland and the rest under the table

  • @user-mq9jg7pz2l
    @user-mq9jg7pz2l Pƙed 14 dny +2

    How much Chelsea , Liverpool , Manchester united and arsenal spent over the last 5yrs ?
    Check the facts. They spent more than city and what they have to show for it ?

  • @mikelee8036
    @mikelee8036 Pƙed 14 dny +4

    This club is 4ver tainted with 115 charges and bribery

  • @VARedevil19
    @VARedevil19 Pƙed 14 dny +4

    Without Money Pep would be somewhere else. FACT

    • @jaysmith2858
      @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 14 dny +2

      Without money and Messi, Guardiola would possibly just be another De Zerbi.

    • @lloydndhlovu7985
      @lloydndhlovu7985 Pƙed 9 dny

      ​@@jaysmith2858Messi?? đŸ˜­đŸ˜­đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł Where would Klopp be without Salah, Mane, Virgil, Fernino etc? See how stupid your point is?

  • @user-yg6zs1pp3t
    @user-yg6zs1pp3t Pƙed 14 dny +5

    The lack of any results in relation to Man City and its 115 charges are part of the reason why i no longer trust the EPL. All the contriversial VAR calls throughout this season has made it very clear that football is completely corrupt. We all witnessed the most Corrupt World Cup EVER. Football is no longer Legitimate sport. It's Entertainment !

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 Pƙed 14 dny +3

      It's buisness

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      I agree. City have had one really bad call against them that I can remember (and even that wasn't a goal). Arsenal have had several, including definite game changing decisions which were wrong.

  • @gregwilson7540
    @gregwilson7540 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    If it wasn’t for the money, City wouldn’t be in the position they are now to have that manager and buy the players they have. They would NEVER have gotten to this position organically.

    • @tomburton2009
      @tomburton2009 Pƙed 8 dny

      110% mate....this is the core of the issue. People defending Citeh are missing this KEY point

  • @40yearoldvirgil15
    @40yearoldvirgil15 Pƙed 13 dny +1

    If they get found guilty, either their trophies needs asterisks plus relegation or they get stripped imo.

  • @jaysmith2858
    @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Man City's success is entirely down to money, namely how it has been allowed to be accrued and how it has been allowed to be used.
    Take those things away and Man City would still be at best a mid table PL club.

  • @adriandenton6637
    @adriandenton6637 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    I never thought i'd say this in a million years, bring on the Super League so we can have our League back.

  • @Looney-toon
    @Looney-toon Pƙed 14 dny +2

    How can a man city fan say it's not about the money with a straight face 😂😂😂 be proud of the fact you are a wealthy club, I don't understand this embarrassment surrounding wealth, all the best clubs are the ones who spend the most money!!!
    Gone are the days clubs were successful using local youth players coming through their academies, doesn't work like that any longer. All about the cash. Even the academy prospects are bought in now days. đŸ€‘đŸ€‘đŸ€‘đŸ€‘

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos Pƙed 14 dny +5

    it's a mix of money and ambition and a good culture. Man United has money but a bad culture.

    • @Rob-hy8vb
      @Rob-hy8vb Pƙed 14 dny +1

      And Liverpool have ambition and good culture but no money 😅

    • @betrthnu3413
      @betrthnu3413 Pƙed 14 dny

      @@Rob-hy8vb "no money" wtf?

  • @davekika7394
    @davekika7394 Pƙed 11 dny +1

    InshAllah city will win the league 💙🙏

  • @bernardfox9078
    @bernardfox9078 Pƙed 11 dny

    Grealish was a vital part of us winning the treble. He is a great player. Agree his end product has not been good enough but his ability to give control in a game was vital the previous season. He shouldn't have gone on a bender after the treble win. I think that is what has caused him problems this season.

  • @spark556
    @spark556 Pƙed 11 dny +1

    Ofc it's not. You just have to take the look at Chelsea & United

  • @julienjones9722
    @julienjones9722 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Obviously money is a part of it, but it's not all of it. Money is something when it comes to winning. But it's not everything. Pep took players that anyone could have signed and turned them into amazing players. Leroy Sane cost ÂŁ37m. Ilkay Gundogan cost ÂŁ20m. Manu Akanji cost ÂŁ15m. Bernardo Silva cost ÂŁ44m. KDB cost ÂŁ55m. Kyle Walker cost ÂŁ50m. It isn't Man City's fault that Man United paid ÂŁ80m for Harry Maguire and ÂŁ73m for Jadon Sancho. ÂŁ70m for Casemiro and ÂŁ66m for Alexis Sanchez and none of those moves worked out. Chelsea spent ÂŁ1b and their best recent transfer was a player that Man City gave them. Liverpool spent a fraction of this and have won way more than Chelsea. Maybe just maybe the manager is more valuable than the money.

  • @vassago2006
    @vassago2006 Pƙed 14 dny +3

    Middlesborough 8 - 1 Man City pre oil money

    • @betrthnu3413
      @betrthnu3413 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      Dead rubber, Svens last game, qualified for Europe, was an anomaly.

  • @user-mq9jg7pz2l
    @user-mq9jg7pz2l Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Bad mind. Fox can’t get the grape so he start to tell everyone that it’s sour

  • @OfficialFA
    @OfficialFA Pƙed 10 dny +1

    Money + wins = 'success', it can be done without as much money but it's a lot more difficult & some spend with no resultsđŸ˜‚đŸ€«đŸ‘•đŸ„‡đŸ†

  • @markrobinson1369
    @markrobinson1369 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    It’s not about City, give some to Bury and Rochdale then!!

  • @salimajahimha
    @salimajahimha Pƙed 4 dny

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Pep first manager to spend 2 billion and now facing over 100 charges. Yeah nothing about money

  • @ridethelightning7979
    @ridethelightning7979 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Deluded. yes, Pep is one of the best managers around, but without the oil wealth, City would still be yoyo-ing between the Prem and Championship. Plus 115.

  • @LiamR90
    @LiamR90 Pƙed 12 dny

    Money doesn't equal success and it's constantly shown that they spend less on players than the likes of Man U and Chelsea.
    We spent big on Robinho and he was a flop.
    United spent about 4mil on Evra and Vidic. Splashed on Pogba and he was a flop.
    It's all about the right players in the right setting.

  • @danieltaurino6832
    @danieltaurino6832 Pƙed 12 dny

    Any way you look at it, it is money. You can praise the manager all you want but it wouldn't be an issue if the amount wasn't spent

  • @kevinb9830
    @kevinb9830 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    I'd be interested to see how 'Pep' does at a club which isn't the pinnacle of whatever league he's in already. Then we would see.

    • @rrjgpl
      @rrjgpl Pƙed 11 dny

      Man City was at the pinnacle when Pep arrived?

  • @theepicdevil7892
    @theepicdevil7892 Pƙed 14 dny

    It’s a bit of both pep would’ve left if he didn’t get tge investment he wanted but he needs to be able to dominate football like he wants to he’s brilliant at finding players and quickly shipping them out if it doesn’t work

  • @krishnanr23
    @krishnanr23 Pƙed 14 dny +5

    It’s about cheating the system! 115 charges ..

  • @DavidSmith-bc8nk
    @DavidSmith-bc8nk Pƙed 10 dny

    I made this comment somewhere a while back but the oligarchs that bought Man City actually wanted United way back then because Utd were seen as the biggest team in the world (rightly or wrongly, that's a different topic) and then because the Glazers didn't want to sell, they went and bought their neighbours out of spite. Man City were minnows at best and would have remained mid league fodder without all the money and ergo, were it not for the success that money brought them, they would never have attracted a manager the calibre of Pep

  • @nathenpillay3445
    @nathenpillay3445 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Pep is not the highest paid manager it's the athletico Madrid is

  • @paulhynes170
    @paulhynes170 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    You telling he would have gone there if they was still in league 1

  • @CB-ms2cq
    @CB-ms2cq Pƙed 14 dny +1

    All I'm going to say is name another club that has dominated a league going 4 league titles in a row, whilst having over 5 clubs outspending them over the past 5 years.
    It's unheard of. look at Utd when they did the 3 in a row. They were outspending everyone in the league breaking 3 British transfer records in a single transfer window. And no clubs were even spending close to them.
    Then you look at Bayern over the years buying every player from direct rivals whilst outspending with no one even spending close to it.
    Then you look at PSG and Real Madrid currently. Both spending billions and competing to win the league against clubs like Girona that have a Netspend of ÂŁ5mil for the whole squad.

    • @jaysmith2858
      @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 14 dny

      Name another club who have 'officially' spent ÂŁ1bn over a handful of years, but have in all likelihood spent much more than that, including paying the likes of ex managers loads of money via fictitious 'consultancies '.

  • @SLM3573
    @SLM3573 Pƙed 14 dny

    what these muppets dont understand is that its not about what Pep has done which has to be admired but its pre Pep cooking the books to be able to build a club from nowhere to title winners in the space of a few years. If they hadnt done it then Pep wouldnt have turned up anyway because his modus operandi is to take over clubs with massive financial backing that are already successful and make them better

  • @danielevans8728
    @danielevans8728 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Ddc.. of course its about the money. As far as competition is concerned, people will accept inherent unfairness but the obvious alleged corruption is insulting. And they want respect..

  • @user-qq1qq5nh6f
    @user-qq1qq5nh6f Pƙed 14 dny +2

    So without oil money your telling me they'd of won the treble with the likes of goater?? đŸ€” CHEATS end of

  • @wholesomedolphin387
    @wholesomedolphin387 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Something tells me if you pop Pep over to Oxford United with their budgets (respectfully) he wouldn't be litfing any PL/CL trophies within a decade. Just so happens that MCity have a top flight manager however part of their success could* be due to rule breaking AS WELL, it's not that complicated or hard to understand.

    • @theblues8840
      @theblues8840 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      What a stupid logic that is, so you think Ferguson or Wenger or Klopp get Oxford winning the PL or the UCL?

    • @michaelcalvert6323
      @michaelcalvert6323 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      They would have more chance

    • @wholesomedolphin387
      @wholesomedolphin387 Pƙed 14 dny

      @@theblues8840 no mate, that wasn't the point being made at all.

    • @wholesomedolphin387
      @wholesomedolphin387 Pƙed 14 dny

      @@michaelcalvert6323 i wouldn't argue against that, there's a multitude of factors that go into it.

    • @michaelcalvert6323
      @michaelcalvert6323 Pƙed 14 dny

      @wholesomedolphin387 let's be honest then. Yes Pep is a good manager and definitely improves players, but he's never proven himself at a lower team. Klopp wins with Dortmund, Fergie wins with Aberdeen, Wenger won the league and Cup with Monaco. If Pep came from a Sevilla or an Osasuna successfully then people wouldn't argue he's the greatest. Until that happens which is never will now because he's so far into his career, so will can never get a definitive answer. So I'd still have Fergie at the top, no doubt Peps matching him now or maybe slightly outshining him but he still doesnt have that mid club resume the others have.

  • @karlhayes1077
    @karlhayes1077 Pƙed 13 dny

    Hes right its not about the 'money' its about the corruption and cheating that they are allowed to get away with

  • @i.m1981
    @i.m1981 Pƙed 14 dny

    Lots of clubs have bought players and sold for profit. Pep is a great manager, but hes never been at an average club without the ability to cherry pick the best players. But im certain he would improve any club in the world. And the way he dealt with foden and has made him the brilliant player he is now was genius. Yes there is an element of having money, but its also about how good pep is.

  • @znhait
    @znhait Pƙed 14 dny

    Right off the bat, only Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal, and Liverpool are playing in the same league as City-Newcastle can’t because of FFP. That already gives City a huge advantage. City paid £100 M for Grealish, and he’s been a peripheral figure for most of his three seasons. Nunes and Phillips were both bought for 50M+, and both might never play any meaningful minutes for City. Other clubs simply can’t afford to make such mistakes.

  • @user-qh1lp7bi2y
    @user-qh1lp7bi2y Pƙed 14 dny

    Did the city fan say take the punishment on the chin and move on, that tells me he thinks nothing serious will happen, i really think he is wrong

  • @TheR3alAntagon1st
    @TheR3alAntagon1st Pƙed 14 dny

    They were a bang average mid table team before a billionaire threw a bucket of oil over them

  • @dappman247
    @dappman247 Pƙed 12 dny

    The disrespect Grealish gets is insane

  • @blazingent4678
    @blazingent4678 Pƙed 14 dny

    If man city never did a win anything nobody would have a problem with them spending big but because there are winning things everyone has a problem

  • @Plibige
    @Plibige Pƙed 14 dny

    Its hard to say this isn't one of the greatest teams of all time. Its not purely down to money in the sense of buying players, but the money to set up the structure that we currently see. Having an academy that produces Foden, Lewis, Palmer and Sancho doesn't happen without money. Having a scouting network and multi club model doesn't happen without money. Having Pep, and the backroom team doesn't happen without money. But it still has to be executed

  • @40yearoldvirgil15
    @40yearoldvirgil15 Pƙed 13 dny

    Didn't they get caught paying Mancini through shell companies? I dread to think what they're ACTUALLY paying Pep and some of their players.
    They would have been able to afford all of this though, without the initial cheating.

  • @nosiku8325
    @nosiku8325 Pƙed 13 dny

    Why do think people fear city but don't respect them.? It's money of course.!
    Could pep come to city if they were not about money?

  • @yemi9196
    @yemi9196 Pƙed 14 dny

    Man City's success is down to money spent to build the squad for over the past 12 years. Also, money spent wisely.
    Man City was spending 50M only defender when 50 million was like 100 million of today

  • @tremuloustetra9083
    @tremuloustetra9083 Pƙed 14 dny

    The only thing I want from you Simon is to tell the truth, the whole truth. The fact is Manchester city football club is the best run club in the world in EVERY area, including accountancy. The full story is;
    OBVIOUSLY!!! What happened to Manchester City is ALL about money. This isn't the first time City have spent a fortune trying to catch up to Manchester United. Chairman Peter Swales in the 70s and 80s made league record player purchases. Kevin Keegan spent a fortune. And Manchester City were on the verge of doing a Leeds United. City were so broke, it is alleged that when the man turned up with the paint to paint for the white lines on the pitch, he wouldn't give over the paint until the City groundsman gave the money for the paint. (about the time of Stuart Pearce. I think that season City had scored 10 goals at home all season.) And if it hadn't been for the Thai owner, spending a fortune, City would have been bankrupt. Then the sheik came in and spent a reasonable amount LOL. No City fan is denying that isn't due to benefactors from Swales through to Sheikh Mansour. But the sheer hypocrisy from Mark Goldberg, his bitterness, sourness, and downright lying hypocrisy, is hilarious.
    I hold my hands up, I don't know much about football. I'm not a real footpath fan, I'M JUST a Manchester City fan. I am completely biased to City, and a political view of football. Pep Guardiola, when paraphrasing Julius Caesar, when talking about the 115 charges absolutely nailed the political analysis when he said "there are no friends, there are no enemies, there are only INTERESTS." If you don't think The Premier League and UEFA and their members actions isn't about money INTERESTS, you are naĂŻve in the extreme. And that's what politics is, economic INTERESTS.
    I knew straightaway that the sheik hadn't bought Manchester City for sports washing or any of the other lazy crass sports page analysis, this was simply oil money diversifying wealth production from oil, to other areas. I too was astounded at the level of money that was being spent. How could you ever hope to recoup such amounts of money? Is Manchester City just a plaything? But it turns out this was a simple "loss leader" business strategy.
    The sheik, like in his 13 other clubs around the world, has gone into each club and bought the best advice in EVERY area. There is not a single area in Manchester City Football Club you can look at where the evidence doesn't point to the fact Manchester City Football Club is the best run football club in the world. Why? Because now he has created a massive revenue stream.
    Now, 115 charges. Now if this Sheikh has bought the best advice in EVERY area, and through doing so has created a massive revenue stream, why would you buy such terrible accountancy advice that couldn't steer him round committing international fraud in collusion with other companies such as Etihad? Etihad by the way, which is going public, which means its books have to be public to people who wish to purchase it. If Etihad is guilty of fraud, would it publish this fraud to the people who wish to purchase it? And if Etihad has accounting detail proving it didn't commit fraud with Manchester City Football Group, don't you think Manchester City Football Group also have that proof?

  • @franciskyombo9394
    @franciskyombo9394 Pƙed 12 dny

    Foden from academy and Alvalez less money spent on him during signing.

  • @Rob-hy8vb
    @Rob-hy8vb Pƙed 14 dny +4

    Pep only goes to teams with money, would love to see how he does at Dorkens

    • @steve-en7bm
      @steve-en7bm Pƙed 14 dny

      Are you always this stupid or do you take lessons? Why would the best coach in the world go and manage Dorkens?

    • @paulhynes170
      @paulhynes170 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      Exactly he would probably go to PSG after this job

    • @nightking8490
      @nightking8490 Pƙed 12 dny

      Didn't know Barcelona of 2009 was overflowing with money.

  • @jaysmith2858
    @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Without untold amounts of money and Messi, Guardiola would quite pissibly just be another De Zerbi.

    • @rrjgpl
      @rrjgpl Pƙed 11 dny

      You lost your argument because you don't even rate De Zerbi.

    • @jaysmith2858
      @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 11 dny

      @@rrjgpl Currently where are Brighton in the league? Tenth. They played some nice football last season but won the sum total of zero. This season they've gone backwards both in terms of league position and style of play. They are bellow West Ham who are parting ways with their manager despite him winning a trophy bigger than anything De Zerbi and Brighton have ever won.
      It's my opinion. We'll never know how Guardiola would fare without untold amounts of money, without a team/squad full of quality players, and at a team that isn't the biggest/richest club in its league because he'll never join a club that can't give him those things.

    • @rrjgpl
      @rrjgpl Pƙed 11 dny

      @@jaysmith2858 well he has coached Barca B and promoted them in Psanish lower division football. He also brought those same players into the main team and won UCL with them. So, it's not stretch to imagine that with the right recruitment, he can get a poor team to heights.
      And you rank De Zerbi poorly because of one bad season? This is why EPL fans can have nothing good. They don't recognize the quality they have until they are gone.

    • @jaysmith2858
      @jaysmith2858 Pƙed 11 dny

      @@rrjgpl Barca B contains better/more expensive footballers than most other clubs in world football. Chris Wilder got Sheffield United promoted to the PL. Is he a world class manager? I think not.
      I need to see a manager have more than one good (but not great) season before I start lauding them to the rafters, especially when they lose a couple of their players and everything goes to pot. If a manager is that good they can get others to pick up the slack so that at worst they don't fall off a cliff and they still maintain their footballing philosophy.
      Any sensible football fan can recognise the truth, and the truth is that De Zerbi still has a lot to prove.
      Guardiola won the CL with a stacked, Messi led Barca side, failed to win the CL with Bayern Munich, and it took him 7 years to win the CL despite being in charge of the richest, most stacked and highly paid club/team in world football. That suggests that he wouldn't be anywhere near as successful if he wasn't handed every possible advantage he could have over his rivals.

  • @Halftimehero573
    @Halftimehero573 Pƙed 13 dny

    Let Guardiola manage porto and make them win the champions league. Or may be try managing sheiffled united and make them win the league. Without money he definitely can't. Its all down to money.

  • @xzl2284
    @xzl2284 Pƙed 12 dny

    City cheated by spending more than the club generates. But as a Utd fan, I am still mad and salty about the fact that Haaland, Rodri,Dias, De Bruyne, Silva are cheaper than the likes of Pogba,Maguire,Antony, Sancho and Lukaku. It's hard to troll plastic city fans about money when Utd are the ones overspending on flops

  • @wintermarcus1504
    @wintermarcus1504 Pƙed 14 dny

    If its not about money then let Pep join Aston Villa,Everton or Brighton and win the Premier league. Pep is a freaking check book manager.

  • @kumarsankaran933
    @kumarsankaran933 Pƙed 12 dny

    Mancini has won , pelligirini won -

  • @shutup2751
    @shutup2751 Pƙed 14 dny +4

    very smart fan, look at the money Ten Hag has spent, don't see United doing anything amazing

    • @retrosheller9214
      @retrosheller9214 Pƙed 14 dny

      Shut up! @shutup2751

    • @frglrk
      @frglrk Pƙed 14 dny +1

      Money is not a guarantee (ETH and United are good examples) - But you're silly if you think it's not about money. There's a general correlation between spending and success. Man CIty laboured for decades without winning anything. They obtained Saudi funding and used that money to bring in the best manager and the best players. Like Jordan said - they've spent the MONEY well. You cant spend (well) what you dont have. Arsenal are where they are now because they've spent (relatively) well.

  • @j_goldss
    @j_goldss Pƙed 14 dny

    they literally cooked the books for a decade which made it look like they made more money than they actually did... and therefore be able to spend more money... and buy the best players. and the only defense any of the 15 city fans have is to say "cry more."
    it was already proven by UEFA but there was statue of limitations in place so it couldn't be convicted. there's no possible way to defend it. the only people who will be crying is the fans of a billion dollar team playing Sunday league.

  • @WinnersOnlyTv
    @WinnersOnlyTv Pƙed 14 dny

    Well I tell you what apart from the new signing this season arsenals players are more than how much they got them for.

  • @denisako6493
    @denisako6493 Pƙed 14 dny

    Bought Nunez benched him no one cares. Bought grealish bench him no problem movie to the next winger Doku with ease

  • @rsaneria
    @rsaneria Pƙed 14 dny

    Utd fans were always called glory supporters, city fans can’t take it

  • @nosiku8325
    @nosiku8325 Pƙed 13 dny

    Even before pepcame to city, they where dominating the league. Of course its money

  • @AJ-nd4nk
    @AJ-nd4nk Pƙed 14 dny

    It is true. Otherwise, Man Utd would be winning it all. It's disingenuous to discredit Pep. He's arguably the greatest manager of all time.

  • @achmadiid8644
    @achmadiid8644 Pƙed 13 dny

    And even the manager has to defend the club

  • @alanfitzpatrick5142
    @alanfitzpatrick5142 Pƙed 14 dny

    It's down to money and money alone what are you talking about 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jonathankennedy1715
    @jonathankennedy1715 Pƙed 14 dny +2

    ManCheaty 115+ Relegation to the conference league beckons.

  • @reubenakoji4160
    @reubenakoji4160 Pƙed 14 dny

    Real Madrid spend money every season, you never see or hear anyone complain 😂😂😂. I love me a club owner that spend money

    • @Musa-du1wk
      @Musa-du1wk Pƙed 14 dny

      bro is just jealousy

    • @adriandenton6637
      @adriandenton6637 Pƙed 14 dny

      They're going to be the first team to leave and go off to a Super League. AND then the Spanish will complain.

  • @user-xx8ot7go2z
    @user-xx8ot7go2z Pƙed 12 dny

    Why is it every other club gets points taken away city brings them to court

  • @abdultuaheb123
    @abdultuaheb123 Pƙed 14 dny

    chelski and shiitty are literally an artificial club. I'm 36 yrs old an I have only met 1 chelski fan all my life😂

    • @steve-en7bm
      @steve-en7bm Pƙed 14 dny

      36yrs going on 10yrs going off your post.

  • @Mohawkmike
    @Mohawkmike Pƙed 14 dny

    Not about money how deluded. Without money you wouldn't be able to buy all the players, the manager and wouldn't have any of success. As the past 100 yrs before money coming in proves that! Having more money then any team to boost an already title challenging team when pep comes in, so other teams can't compete with the finances but it's not down to money 😂

  • @MCFCTheMadHatter
    @MCFCTheMadHatter Pƙed 14 dny +1

    Money argument is so dumb as MU have proven it. Money gives you opportunities but NEVER guarantees you success. Football, money and being a chef are quite similar.
    Just look at Chelsea past few years, MU for the last 10 and even Arsenal since Arteta came in. If Arteta wins the PL, he will have spent ÂŁ700m+ to do it. When Pep came to City, he had one of the oldest teams in the league and needed to clear a lot out especially given the style of football he wanted to play. He spent big the summer going into the 2017/18 season (close to ÂŁ300m gross I believe) but won the PL with 100pts. The following summer he spent around another ÂŁ130m gross and won it again by 1 point. So in 3 seasons with a gross spend of ÂŁ430m he won back to back titles.
    The difference is not the money as Arteta has spent more and had far more time and you can make similar arguments for MU and Chelsea and perhaps Klopp to a degree (it took him more time and more money to win a PL than Pep). It’s all about the manager. Depending on the time frame, Klopp proves it and Pep def does. There’s a reason top class managers are paid so much as it’s not simply about having the best players money can buy, otherwise, clubs would spend the big money on the players and anyone could be manager, which is clearly not the case

    • @adriandenton6637
      @adriandenton6637 Pƙed 14 dny

      ? They were in the third division 20 years ago!!! Pep doesn't do it as a charity. And Man City now have one of the most expensive teams in history...what do you not understand, or do you just think of the top 4 teams..they need to disappear to the Super League and play their matches in Singapore and LA. It's clearly all about the $$$$$$. Do you think ANY of their owners care about the football league?

    • @MCFCTheMadHatter
      @MCFCTheMadHatter Pƙed 14 dny

      @@adriandenton6637 Firstly, how many seasons were City in the 3rd division? How many seasons were they in the second division?
      As for money, prove me wrong. Show me where money guarantees success regardless of the manager

  • @Lewis88-wr6sm
    @Lewis88-wr6sm Pƙed 14 dny +5

    Without the takeover and money City would still be an average premier league side.

    • @AlexRichie
      @AlexRichie Pƙed 14 dny

      Exactly. These kids born in 2000s have only seen manchester city be top class little do they know the foundations of their club has been built off of money. Liverpool, man utd and arsenals foundation was not built of off money. Key word ‘foundation’.

    • @rassot3678
      @rassot3678 Pƙed 13 dny

      Every team started somewhere. Chelsea wasn’t this good yrs ago, United too, lpool.

  • @shacktoure174
    @shacktoure174 Pƙed 14 dny

    What’s Martinelli, Odegaard, Saliba, Saka worth ? lol

  • @mack983
    @mack983 Pƙed 14 dny

    If anything City have embarrassed everyone else with how well they’ve spent the money. I bet the people crying hadn’t even seen Rodri , Alvarez , Dias ,Akanji ect play before pep brought them in. Not a city fan but it’s a masterclass how they buy players. You also give any other manager this team and they aren’t winning the league every year , trust me.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Pƙed 14 dny

      Not a single player Pep has bought at City was ever considered the best in their positions beforehand.

  • @user-qh1lp7bi2y
    @user-qh1lp7bi2y Pƙed 14 dny

    Amazing how he never won the treble at bayern forget about barcelona because the team was already made for him. Didn't have a bottomless wallet at bayern and couldn't win champions league, bottomline. End of... cheaters, overstating profits. Owner putting personal money above the budget. All the charges are correct, no doubt but they will get away with it.

  • @clevelandlatouche6680
    @clevelandlatouche6680 Pƙed 14 dny

    Where were they before the money?

  • @Jamlmx73
    @Jamlmx73 Pƙed 14 dny

    Lets not pretend pep guardiola doesnt deserve credit. He does. But to say money and therefore resources aren’t a factor is just silly

  • @tarcymatinhure4611
    @tarcymatinhure4611 Pƙed 13 dny

    Man city Fans wants Man united attention 😂, which is hard with charges laying around.

  • @Bladesmobile
    @Bladesmobile Pƙed 14 dny

    It Is a balanced debate???
    Its not even balanced criticism
    It’s just bitter arguments and insults half the time

  • @Imsoconfusedthesedays
    @Imsoconfusedthesedays Pƙed 14 dny

    I bet that fan laughs when he farts in the bath too

  • @melkor2789
    @melkor2789 Pƙed 14 dny

    And how did they pay peps wages?

  • @keithosullivan1674
    @keithosullivan1674 Pƙed 14 dny

    Yeah right!.

  • @djharto4917
    @djharto4917 Pƙed 14 dny

    Funny that forest and Everton get deducted points and city get away with constant cheating

  • @Musa-du1wk
    @Musa-du1wk Pƙed 14 dny

    its called money well spent.

  • @40yearoldvirgil15
    @40yearoldvirgil15 Pƙed 13 dny

    Leicester broke FFP to get into the prem the couple years before they won it

  • @ricardomorrisphd
    @ricardomorrisphd Pƙed 14 dny +1

    They will win the league 4 times in a row yet no one cares! 😅

  • @user-xx8ot7go2z
    @user-xx8ot7go2z Pƙed 12 dny

    If not about money tell me wat they have won before money came

  • @salex8813
    @salex8813 Pƙed 14 dny

    What did Man City do before money without that money pep wouldn’t be the city manager ever come on tell the truth

  • @andymoss2490
    @andymoss2490 Pƙed 14 dny

    That is a whole new way of being in denial .

  • @Slice998
    @Slice998 Pƙed 14 dny +4

    Respect is earned, not bought.

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      Good job City are only the sixth in the net spend table.

    • @vPzWalkerx
      @vPzWalkerx Pƙed 14 dny +1

      @@robertmclellan3658 We still prentending to trust Man City's financial records?
      Next you will tell me Haaland actually cost the ÂŁ51mil that was claimed.

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 Pƙed 14 dny

      @@vPzWalkerx City have the most scrutinised accounts in the world and NOBODY has ever found any discrepancies .

    • @martinpeters9753
      @martinpeters9753 Pƙed 14 dny

      Who do you respect in the P. L

    • @vPzWalkerx
      @vPzWalkerx Pƙed 14 dny

      @@robertmclellan3658 Not sure about that