Tips for riding with a passenger..
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- In this video, I'm going to give you some great tips on riding 2-up with a passenger. Make sure your significant other or anyone that rides on the back of your motorcycle is aware of these common sense tips.
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Ballooned to 128lbs. 🤣🤣🤣…keep up the great videos Jerry and camera girl!
Damn, "She ballooned up to..." I could swear I heard a smack to the back of the head on the mic. lmao
After our long Illinois winters, i won't take the wife until i take a few solo rides, just to get reacquainted with my bike.
Excellent idea.
Get the cob webs out
Eeyore, I do the very same thing and teach that to new riders who ask me as well, very smart and experienced thing to do sir, couldn't agree more
Same here
Sounds like sound advice for all of us thank you bro for the tip
(Ballooned-Up) Three Whole Pounds! You Lucky Bastard. Mine started out at 105, and now.... well, it's a hell of a lot more than 3 lbs.
That 255+ lb guy was looking way too happy to be sitting back behind you there Jerry. 😂 But I digress. That bike was set up way differently than your own bike. You rode it flawlessly. Always nice job.
The best thing I ever did was put single seats on my Harley so my wife can ride her own bike! I got tired of hauling her everywhere and then having to wait on her all the time.
One thing I told my passenger about adjusting, do it while we are moving. The bike wants to stay up on its own rather than trying to balance it myself at a stoplight while she’s moving around back there
Great videos, been riding since I was 12 I'm 61 now and your never to old to learn the right way even though you think you know it all. Thanks Jerry keep those videos coming.
Great video! My guy has a bmw 1800cc and wants me to start riding with him. I won’t lie I’m a bit nervous 😬 Your videos make me feel much more at ease and prepared. Thanks!
Great video, sir. Still only practicing riding 2 up in the neighborhood. My wife loves the way my electra glide feels.
I watch your videos, sometimes more than once. I now have a voice inside my head when I ride, telling me to turn my head, put a little pressure on the rear brake and sometimes I hear "trail brake". Seriously, Thanks. I'm 60 and I always thought I knew what I was doing, until I didn't.
Thanx much, Jerry!
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Thanks Motorman. Great tips for looking after someone whose life is in your hands.
Make sure your passenger knows their responsibilities regarding leaning etc.
Communication is key.
Passenger responsibility is important.
I can’t enjoy riding with my fiancé on the back anymore bc she for some reason just refuses to be an active participant. She likes to “enjoy looking around and enjoying the ride”..
But paying zero attention to what’s on the road and not holding on and messing with her nails and cell phone constantly …. Not willing to take that risk anymore. I have a backrest on order.. that will put me a bit more at ease but the fact that she knows multiple ppl that have died on bikes (sport bike incidents … but still).. that should put in perspective that riding is dangerous.
She’s putting both of us at risk by her behavior.. where I need to be constantly reminding her to hold on and pay attention and not have both hands on cell phone.
I’m gonna share this vid with her but she will prob just get pissed as usual that i am trying to make riding together safe.
Once again.. great comment to bring up about passenger responsibility
@@geraldgoodiii6993 Good luck. I know in my case. I no longer ride with a passenger. My wife had a stroke (from which she recovered), and ever since has a balance issue. So any lean on the bike causes her to react as if falling. Saving up for a trike or a side car.
Jerry you're absolutely the best!! When you did the u-turn on that tight street with your passenger in the back I realised I know nothing about low speed maneuvers. Too bad I'm not in the US and in Europe otherwise I would have joined your classes! Thanks again for the great videos!!
Thanks 👍
Smooth, gentle and deliberate, that's what works for us.
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Motorman rode the hell out of a bike he was not totally comfortable on, with a 255lb. passenger, now that's the proper way to ride a motorcycle, Motorman you are too cool. GOD BLESS you and yours ✝️. 🖤👽
Good video Jerry. My wife had a stroke almost 4 years ago now and it affected her right side. So she has to get on the bike kick stand side due to her left leg is strongest. Plus she feels that's the lowest point when she gets on. So that's the only thing we do different then everything you said. It was so funny when you said about adjusting yourself while riding. I was like did you hear him. Lol. Anyways just wanted to share. Have a great weekend sir.
Mo, it’s great that your wife still wants to get on the Bike after a stroke,Bless her. God bless both of you. I have seen strokes at first hand,and really it’s down to the person’s determination.But! If that person has gone too far then there is no coming back from it. Mmm,my Father! All the best. Long May the Biking continue. My love and regards to your Wife. That is determination.
@@donlunn792 thank you Don. Very much appreciated and you are right. It all depends on the individuals determination. She can walk and talk. Just can't think too much or stand too long. 😕 . A stroke doesn't just affect the person it happens to. It also affects everyone around that person as well. For instance everytime I plan something I have to take in consideration will there be a line, how much noise will be there because alot of noise over stimulates her, have to park close, I could go on and on lol. But I love her and would do anything for her. Thanks again Don and be safe out there sir.
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@@goldilocks913 thank you Mihai. Very much appreciated 🙏
There is definitely a difference style of riding with a passenger. And yes I use your technique 😉
Great video! Wife JUST started riding with me, so very timely! A question... Both feet down when you stop? Have heard it both ways but I trust you more than others I have seen... Keep up the great work!
On a heavy bike especially with a passenger, both feet down.
Here in the UK, RoSPA advanced riders, do not like both feet down! But surely! With a pillion passenger,especially with a heavy one,then both feet down is the best.I think that Whatever is safest particularly with your nearest and dearest! then that is what you use? I find that these days at the age of 75 I do struggle ,well maybe not struggle, but find that it not so easy as when I was younger with a pillion passenger. When I was about 18, I used to give my workmates a lift if their bike had broken down.And they were big guys! 15-16 stone. Me ?18 years old! Ten stone! Yet it never caused me any problems. But! Nowadays there is no way that I would carry a pillion passenger of that weight.Maybe self preservation kicks in when you are old.Who wants broken bones or worse at 75.😀😀
Great information and the end was hilarious
Great stuff as always! I'm sharing this one with my wife right away.
Great video, I'm always nervous with my missus on the back. We will be watching this one again together. 👍
I always let my passenger get on with the kickstand down. Get odd looks but it's more secure. Seen a few people drop their bikes with passengers getting on and off. That shift in weight can throw the balance off and when it starts to go, it's going down.
"Balooned up to 128." (Paused video and laughed a solid minute!)
Another great video, Jerry. Thanks so much for doing these, they are very helpful even for a guy like me who has been riding for over 35 years. I use these videos often as refreshers to make sure I don't get lazy and forget my technique. My wife is getting back on my bike after a long period of not riding (raising kids) so it's been a while for me and I wanted to make sure I tell her how to be a good passenger and I knew right where to come for the information and you didn't let me down. You're a bold man for revealing your wife's weight in the video....I was half expecting a smack on the back of your helmet! Thanks again, much appreciation to you, sir and thank you for your service to the community as a cop for all those years.
" when we first started writing she was a slim trim 120" thinking to myself, be careful with your next sentence😂😂😂
Thanks again for your dedication,
This is one of my biggest worries about riding. Thanks MM
Solid advice- slow and smooth!
I thoroughly enjoy your videos and the information and wisdom you bestow upon us. There are many things you cover that I have never given much thought to, and I find myself applying what I learn from you. Thank you for that. I just started riding again. Our previous bike was huge, a 1999 bmw k1200lt. Now it's a bit smaller r1100rt, and your techniques and pointers are crucial to being a better rider, and I may need to move to a different bike. All in good time. But for now just wanted to say thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. Cheers Jerry!
Thank you ... Keep up the great work ...
Thanks, will do!
Thank you Jerry, great topic i always find your vids helpful for me as noobi.
Much needed video, thanks!
Great video Jerry. As usual. You will have me and my son sooner than later in your class. Is in my bucket 🪣 list.
Great video. Very informative. I think it deserves an Emmy Award.
I absolutely love your videos and can certainly appreciate your talent. I am so grateful that you’ve shown everybody this can be done on any motorcycle but also explaining the advantages that you have experience on the Harley Davidson. I think Harley gets a bad rap. I have a 2009 CVO. This is the year they made the frame extra rigid etc. my first experience on it was more challenging than I thought, I really had to get used to it but have not yet mastered those tight turns. Thank you for your instruction…!!
I love your riding tips thanks
Thank you very much for this information I watch your videos all the time
Thank you for this tip.
Love the tips when riding with passengers. Many thanks.
Happy to help!
Your best girl "was a slim 125, but now has ballooned up to 128" ehh?? :-) Great video.
Thanks for the video
Hey Jerry I picked up on your comment about not judging a riders passenger and I brought to mind the evolution of Honda's Gold Wing. Let me explain; Although Honda originally developed the GL1000 as a performance motorcycle, it quickly morphed into a long distance tourer. Through marketing research Honda became aware of the importance of a rider/owner significant other; typically a husband & wife duo. This led to the development of the GL1500 and its successor the 5th gen GL1800. Now fast forward to 2018 where the heretofore couple is now divorced whereas the ex-husband has come "out of the closet" and doesn't need to haul a passenger or co-rider. Since the co-rider has been all but eliminated, Honda figured out to downsize the Gold Wing so that they can now market & sell a svelte new GL to this solo rider AND his significant other tag-along buddy.
These changing demographics have also impacted the now defunct GWRRA which was in so many ways predicated on the husband & wife partnership. Of course there are a myriad of reasons for Honda to redesign it's flagship and I for one applaud them. Once again, just as I judge Ride Like a Pro, it's a game changer!
Not only that, women ride now as well (and we all bring along way more luggage than before).
Excellent!
Many thanks!
It is as important for the passenger to know how to ride as the driver. This was all taught in the msf course 20 years ago. I hope it has remained on the lesson plan.
Most excellent
"common sense isn't very common"😂😂
Truer words have never been spoken!!
Great video, thanks for posting. My wife is an excellent passenger; I rarely know she is even back there. Only other advise I've ever really given is if we're turning or going around a left hand turn then put her helmet over my left shoulder and vice-versa.
Thanks for sharing!
Good video
Groovy Jerry. 😎
I say always if I go to the left look over my left shoulder , the same to the right when I go right.
What a great sport that guy was!
Thank You for vedio
I do not recommend that my girl "mount" my bike from the right. There is a hot muffler there. As far as traffic goes, I back up my motorcycle perpendicular facing the traffic. This means neither the right or the left expose more or less to "traffic." Shift smoothly - agree - you just release the clutch a little more slowly. (no problem on the drizzle) lol - Also, you forgot to mention to put down the foot pegs!? BTW, my "passenger" is thin, but thanks for pointing out weight. Don't lean too far which I agree even when you ride solo. There is no coolness factor in having your bike slide out from under you. If you both have cellphones, did you ever think about blue tooth and calling each other and maintaining a cell phone call instead of paying too much for a "talking system?" - I like the middle of the motorcycle weight for slow turns. Common sense isn't very common. I don't judge. You showed the same "clip" twice btw. "Tons of fun! lol" - I wear a full face helmet. - peace. Thanks for the video!
Great video and advice Sir.. I was wondering if you could give some advice about riding in the rain? Would be much appreciated thank you.
ALL the techniques become even more crucial in rain and low traction situations. Whatever you "can get away with" on good dry clean asphalt with good high traction street tires tends (for a lot of riders) to include a bit of "slop". As traction goes away (rain, mud, snow, off-road, gravel, sand, etc...) the ability to "get away with slop" also goes away. FOCUS is key... AND let off the speed a tad most of the time.
Might be even more important that you revisit the drills learned in any/all of your classes, camps, workshops, and track days and put in some more time repeating them. I know it gets old, but you want to know them well enough you "just about can't f*** it up" rather than know them just well enough "to consistently repeat it".
Finally, almost regardless of what anyone else says on the matter (it seems controversy surrounds)... Body position can save your bacon. On cruisers, we don't have quite as much road clearance as sporties. It might not be a big deal in the dry and warm... BUT cold and wet and low traction, adding a bit of body position can reduce the bike's lean through turns and keep the contact patch and traction that remains as reasonably high as possible... I'm only on a Suzuki Savage 650, but in the rain (beyond a light mist) I'm adding a bit of body position, just to avoid skirting with a wash-out or low-side disaster... It's easier than you might expect.
...AND yeah, I know. I'm not the Motorman. I also ride in the mountains, where it can start raining for no good reason at the drop of a hat. I get caught out in it regularly... in spite of my best efforts to avoid it. ;o)
Brave man you are Jerry. Letting the world know your wife gained three pounds. You may have to sleep with one eye open.
He was actually paying her a compliment. She was only 125 years ago when he first started riding with her and years later only 3lbs heavier. He is def paying her a compliment.
Love the videos jerry! Very informative and helpful to us new riders! We need a guy like you here in central Minnesota.. What were you adjusting at 3:58 on your handle bars?
Heated grips
@@DustinLaughs oh nice.
Love your. Videos Jerry. In regards to riding 2 up with a passenger that’s in the 180-200 lbs range, are their specific bikes that you would suggest. Such as the Harley used in this video? Or will most bikes suffice? I’m approx 210 lbs . I’m in the market for a new bike but wanna make sure I’m making the correct choice. Coming from a. Triumph bonneville t100
It would be nice if my girl paid attention like that. My woman (of 15 yrs and mother of two of my children) is usually chilling, puffing on her weed vape or eating candy or sunflower seeds back there. She just leans on the tour pack chilling. But she's only 115 lbs, so it's not usually a big deal. I'm so used to riding solo most of the time though, coming to a stop with a passenger is weird for me. I mostly just balance the bike and don't put my feet down. But when she's on there, the passenger floorboards are out and her feet are there, it's hard to get used to
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Between your awesome vidz and ex motorman police instructor Ernie Plunket teaching me I’m learning to ride at 55 years old in a Honda ST 1300… Ol Lt. Head and Eyes “MF’r is teaching me well over here!!! Lol… says that’s what deputies used to call him!!! Take care…
Took me a little bit to understand what you meant by floor boards scraping a little earlier. Passenger makes bike sit lower.
My girlfriend never lets me know and starts moving. Luckily she is light and it is not a problem.
Jerry, are you going to Daytona this year? If so what days ? I would like to meet you.
Thanks
any tips regarding riding through a metal grated section of a draw bridge
good video! I've got a special wife... She has no fear, doing yoga on the back seat on long trips and sometimes fell a sleep :-(
Jerry, we could use your help. I have about 300,000 miles logged with Harley on their motorcycles. Most of those miles have been two-up with my wife. Because of bone issues, she suffers from stress fractures in her feet. We have ridden to Maine with her wearing a "boot" because of a fractured foot, and are about to ride to Sturgis, with her suffering from two broken bones in her foot. She always mounts from the left, as I do, like riding a horse. She's worried about the stress of stepping on her floorboard and pushing herself up. I like what you suggest in this video, but, I have a backrest which makes this impossible. Any suggestions (other than losing the backrest)?
Broderick Crawford would say " leave your blood at the red cross, not on the highway".
Really good info.But I myself rather not have a passenger.I simply don't want that responsibility of another life if there were to be a crash.But thats just how I fill about having a passenge on my bike.On a side note.What do you call a guy riding a nice road king.No helmet tank top no gloves or riding boots just flip flops.Yet proceeds to were a mask over his mouth and nose.Would that be concidered a Duffus or a possible Orangan donor?Passed a guy yesterday wish I'd caught him in my go pro but the battery had loss juice.
I would call him a person expressing his freedom to choose what to wear on a motorcycle. Too many 'virtue signalers' love to criticize others who don't wear crash costumes.
I have a new road glide and I’m having a hell of a time adjusting to low speed turns. It has the shark nose fairing and honestly I never knew how much I watched the front tire until now that I can’t see it.
Once I got used to the fixed fairing, I handle it better than I did either of my prior bikes with no fairing - I think because it prevents bad habits like looking down at the tire. Forces your eyes up. I think you’ll love it pretty shortly.
@@jeffh3286 thanks brother. I hope so.
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she balooned up indeed.. hahah
If the passenger gets on first, it's easier for them, no doubt. But once the rider gets on, I would think lifting the motorcycle off the jiffy stand would be much more difficult. I suppose I could ask the passenger to lean a bit to the right when I'm attempting this. And if the rider dismounts first, he/she would have to drag his/her leg over the seat. Thoughts?
You just turn the handlebars full lock to the right and it comes up off the stand easy. With your foot on the floorboard it's easy to lift your leg over the seat.
Can a person pass your course riding a wideglide ? I’m thinking about buying one.
Of course.
Qustion..what are your thoughts... car tire on bike?
No, car tires belong on cars.
I'd absolutely love to learn to ride a motorbike and have my ownbHarley . But London is so dangerous for bikers . I don't know if I'd be comfortable riding here even if I learned and had the skills :(
I used to be scared of riding with a passenger back when I started, but now if my wife isn't on the back it's like I'm missing something ahahah
You got that bike in Gear?
Why do you stay straight up on a turn? I thought you always lean in a curve?
Riders in my area need traing on what to do when there's fresh cut grass they encounter it.
3:33 you say you stay "straight up". Do you mean straight up as in staying inline with the motorcycle or verticle?
You stay straight up in the saddle, allow the bike to lean under you, same goes for the passenger.
@@motorman857 thanks
Then as speed gets up a bit and/or corners get tighter just stay with the bike..?
Hey Jerry I'm a retired motor officer in Georgia. Can you please make a video for what to do when lone riders catch up to each other? I'm used to riding side by side in formation for safety but when I catch up to somebody and get beside them they freak out and don't know what to do. They shake their heads and slam on brakes or avoid riding side by side. Maybe show riders that even if you bump you're not going to fall over, etc. I think it would make a great Video and give info no one seems to know about. Thanks!
I don't want a person I don't know riding next to me. I don't know their experience and I don't want to worry about them.
Do you think they could knock you off your motorcycle?
Being more visible to oncoming traffic is the most vital safety advantage ever. You don't need to be visible to yourself. You don't need protection from your own riding skill and style. You need to be seen by the distracted soccer mom.
i have a very hard time stopping with my wife on the back Jerry i've dropped it couple times do you ever use the front break stopping at a stop sign?? can you do another video please
Sounds like you need to go to a parking lot with your wife and practice braking to a stop. Keep your head and eyes up while coming to a stop. Handlebars pointed straight ahead. Use both brakes. Then release the rear brake just as the wheels stop turning. Both feet should touch the ground as the wheels stop turning. Use the front brake for your final stop but don't snatch it or grab it. Squeeze it.
@@motorman857 thank you jerry it gets scary at times..i'm going to bike week this weekend and there will be a lot of slow riding..when im by myself it's no problem with her i have a hard time..
OMG that is the easiest way as the rider not passenger to get on and off the bike......and you don't have to swing leg over, just step thru, doesn't matter if passenger is on or not. My wife prefers traditional way with me already on....hand on my shoulder, other grabs trunk, left foot on her foot pod and steps thru with right foot....she would wait for me to get off then sling right leg over and slide......but I put backrest on for me so now she gets off in reverse of getting on.....I may take the backrest off
When downshifting to reduce helmet banging, do whats called rev matching, learned from crotch rocket rider but becasue crotch rocket gearing is so close you don't need it unless dropping 2 gears,.......pull in clutch, downshift, blip the throttle, let off clutch....the rpm's already being up reduces the engine breaking leaving the passenger sitting straight
I ride with my girlfriend on the back I’m not going to lie she is overweight for her height. I ride with her anyway but I like it better when she is not on the back because of the anxiety it gives me when she rides with me.
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I screw up the pre load with my girlfriend. So the boards scrape the same as when i drive solo…
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hell of the balloon to 128 )))
Just buy a Spyder!😁
Great video. Before I hit the streets with my wife and daughters. I'm going to get them on the back at a local parking lot first to get the hang of it. (Actually so we all get the feel for it). Don't like the Ape Hangers because of turns or just don't like the feel?
I don't know about Jerry, but my feelings against Ape Hangers is purely from my riding habits. They hold your hands and arms above your heart, so because I'm known to hit the road for hours at a time, it's easy for the fingers to go numb and my hands to lose strength in grip... It's also why I don't habitually keep my hands at "10 and 2" on the steering wheel in a car, preferring "4 and 8" instead.
AND yes, I always take a prospective passenger around a parking lot and do a few low-speed drills (figure-8's, slolam, tightening circles, usually) to get us both used to the duo-dancing before we hit the streets. It's usually a lot of fun, especially with a "complete noob" squealing and giggling hysterically back there... ;o)
Eh a little male bonding there Jerry,manly man got a soft side too! Who knew!
The real trick to turning tightly and not falling over low side is to give it gas!
no pole to hole.
What's a "motor officer?"
A law enforcement officer assigned to the motorcycle squad.
3lbs ??
300
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Moorman, enjoy your videos, on one of them you advertised a set of crash guards for the crash guard, could you send me address on them
www.motorcycledropguards.com
Seems a little apes would be somewhat better guess it’s height more are less
Don't do it.