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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2021
- Steam locomotives can accomplish a lot during their careers; in revenue service and in preservation. Although Atlanta and West Point 4-6-2 no. 290 lived most of its career out of the spotlight, the heavy Pacific has gained a modest following for its close ties to more well known names like Norfolk Southern, and how it fit in with its surroundings past and present.
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So happy to see this talked about. Closest thing we ever had in preservation to an operating Ps4
Where Is My PS4
@@BuckeyeTrains not the Sony PS4 the southern railway PS4!
@@TRAINGUY-ey3hj I Know
I Was JK
the documentaries are GRADE A, i think i speak for everyone when i say, I LIKE TRAINS
😊👍
*get's crushed by high speed amtrak train*
I was a member of the Atlanta chapter of the NRHS and worked regularly on the New Georgia trips. I also worked at the SERM and nearby was the facility that was rebuilding the 290. I had the opportunity to climb down the steam dome opening and enter the boiler. All tubes were removed at the time.
The mid to late 80s was a good time for rail fans in the Atlanta area. 611 and 1218 were active in the NS steam program. 750 and diesel 6901 were running on the New Georgia. And 290 was entering the excursion service. This was a fun reminder of those days. Thank you for the video.
It also made a cameo in the TV movie "Tuskegee Airmen" as well, when Laurence Fishburne's character took the train to enlist in WWII.
The engine that never really got a chance, its currently in duluth and was used in fried green tomatos
I really enjoyed this presentation! I was particularly impress with the realism of locomotives and rolling stock.
This channel is seriously so good, Brian your work is amazing as I love South Railroad history.
Pacifics are beautiful, I own an O gauge SRS 1401. Thanks for this video 👍
Never thought you’d be doing more stories on particular engines, and as always, well done!
That's steam locomotive looks awesome😃😀😄
I’m literally going to the southeastern railway museum and have been for years and never knew that the 290 was there
290 my personal favorite locomotive. Great job on video
Heh.... you wanna be ready when I debut the 290 in my copy of Trainz Simulator 12 next month? X3
Amazing contrast between the 290 and the Ps4 even though they are in the category of USRA designs.
What a cool 4-6-2 Pacific. K&L Trainz did a good on this model.
Love these! :)
This is a great video you have done of the 290 I knew of her and 190s history in revenue service but I did not know much of her excursions and career before she was taken out of service i would so love to see her operate again but who knows if that will happen again but we never know. I fell in love with this pacific when I saw her in the movie Fried Green Tomatoes she truly is a beautiful locomotive. I am very happy I commissioned K&L trainz to do her and the help of all the others to make it possible and bring her to the trainz world. I would so love to see her in the San Juan Branchline series.
Love it if 104 ex WRA 0-6-0 was added to SERM roster.
the Tallahassee & Albany 290 (Atlanta & West Point 290) has a different whistle. A central of georgia 5 chime whistle was installed on the 290
Idea for ya', do Cotton Belt 819 next.
We’ll see what we can do.
i love this channel keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
@Alpha the N&W 611 (Alpha The BNSF GS-4) It clearly says at 9:44...
290 did end up in a film called 'Fried Green Tomatoes'
Very nice video
I have talked with the person who provided K&L with detailed measurments and pictures for 290. He says the museum is slowly putting her back together cosmetically for display.
Most excellent! Thanks for the update.
Very nice video! please do more history's of engines that we dont know that still exists!
Thanks, will do!
1:17 I didn't know the PlayStation 4 was also a train!
1:20 Some of the Southern railway's ps4 pacifics looked very identical to 290 and 190. These Ps4's had Worthington feedwater heaters and smaller tenders with 4 axle trucks
this is awesome! 290 is getting rescission she deserves.
Pretty cool video of Atlanta & West Point 290. It is sad that it would not be returned to operation. But it is still a pretty cool 4-6-2 “Pacific”.
5:01 FINALLY! ITS MENTIONED IN A YT VIDEO THAT WASN’T A TRAIN RUNNING!
Nice Video
Over in Cadiz California, a company is looking to start running excursions to Parker Arizona and back on the CA&AZ railroad mainline which would allow for high speeds with heavy trains. This could be an ideal locomotive for the job if it was maybe converted to burn oil.
3:08 you should definitely do a video on 7034
The only N&W M class on the Atlantic Coast Line
You should continue making these
The way I see A&WP 290, she has the elegance of a Pacific type, but the horsepower and speed of a Consolidation, Hudson, or a Mikado. She's almost drawbar to drawbar to 4501, 630 and 1401.
wow can you do Florida East Coast 148 next its my favorite locomotive
Hopefully, 1 day at least the engine will be put on display with the rest of the museum collection to be seen by the public since the likes of her steaming again are very slim, nonetheless hopefully 1 day this sometimes forgotten pacific will be on display to be seen by many people and tourists to come. But who knows when it'll happen.
So this is the locomotive that was talked about in the Q&A
nice
ERROR at 6:24-6:26; No. 290's tender fuel capacity was actually increased from 15 to 20 tons of coal.
Did you guys ever thought about doing an editorial on a topic from abroad like British Railways and Nationalization?
Southern 1401 is in Washington DC at Smithsonian US history building. She was overhaul by Southern at Ivy yard without water or coal and put in the building.
The only heavy PS4.
Correction for the info on driver diameter and tractive effort-driver diameter was 74”, not 73”, and tractive effort was 46,892 lbs at 85% cutoff.
I'd love to see you do a video on the Royal Hudson #2860
Cool
The tender is in good shape
alanta & West point 290 was feactured in a movie called fried green tomatoes in 1991
1:22 hello brother from anthor mother
Have you thought of doing a video on Gainesville midland 208 or 209
Love for 290 and 750 to run at blue ridge scenic. If possible
This locomotive reminds me of Southern Pacific's P-8 pacifics
You should do a video about the America Freedom train
considering how the attitude towards mainline steam seems to be shifting again...
290 could very easily run again, although this time, it would be on tracks owned by the big blue and yellow.
Technically if it was 1946 Crescent side of Southern would be pulled by E unit and 290 along with 190 would be downgrade from Crescent service in 1949 and put on other West Point Train.
Do you think you'd ever make a video on the prr K4's?
How did you get the relettering on the tender to work?
where did you get the New Georgia f7
3:08 What Is 7034 Doing there, that didn't operate in Georgia, did it???
Does anyone know the name of the track asset used on the first part of the video (Atlanta Terminal) ?
Where did you get the F units from?
can you talk about canada steam train?
besides. did you use the blender 3.5 app on computer to remodel the Atlanta & West Point 290 into a T&AE locomotive?
I mean T&AR
why not do a video on the rest of the excursion locomotives in the East?
What baggage car did you use as a base for the Southern Baggage Car shown in 4:15?
One of the baggage cars from the SP 745 pack.
@@HighIron Oh ok
She may not be able to run right now, but who knows, with 611 brought back to life, maybe NS will decide 290 needs resurrection and make it a part of the steam program.
what is route
If you were to take your average dizzle locomotive today and look up its horse power, which class of steam locomotive could match its horse power?
2 Big Boys running back to back?
@@Ty-yt3lj posably, but I've seen videos of mutple dizzle locomotives pulling a train while i have seen footage of the chalanger locomotive pulling a train of presumably the same length all by its self.
I hate to be one of those people but I have to ask. What routes and dioramas were used in the video and are they public, if so where can I find them?
Some shots were on Approach Medium's Pennsylvania and Berwind route from Jointed Rail, and modified versions of American Trainz Group's NS Ferry Sub. The rest are private modules built for the camera.
@@HighIron Ok, thanks for telling me. BTW your videos are absolutely amazing, keep up the good work. Some quality American content right here.
Does anybody know where the southern archroof baggage car came from?
Private reskin
@@HighIron ok, thank you.
Next time I go to the railroad museum 290s at ima ask to see her figuring she’s 30 mins away from me maybe the museum will restore her exterior and put her on display by 750
How about the Union Pacific like they run their engines I think if they got some of the profits they would allow kt
Crescent is here :)
Now owned by Amtrak
showing off are KL trains collection are we
We need the big boy
you can ship it over Australia, Im pretty sure that the N.S.W steam committee can save it
second comment
Edit: wish CZcams had live comments, so I could actually tell if I was second.
Where is this engine today?
The end of the video explains it.... ^^'
@@jimmyhook4852 thanks she make an excellent candidate for rebuild!
@@rudycarlson8245 You're welcome. :) For sure. ^^
😢it’s too bad there’s no where for it to go
8:49 Atlanta, not Birmingham.
Drat...
realistically i think 290 could run at 225, with a new boiler, 300.
engine is basically a copy of the Ps-4
Boiler pressure can’t just be increased because you want to. Usually you want your weight on drivers to be at least 4 times the calculated tractive effort. Less than 4 is where locomotives become slippery and nearly impossible to handle. 3 cylinder locomotives are an exception to this rule to a degree, since power delivery is a bit smoother compared to 2 cylinder and 4 cylinder articulateds.
So let’s entertain your crazy idea. 290’s boiler pressure is 200 psi, which gives a calculated tractive effort of 46,892 lbs. Factor of adhesion is 4.11, a perfectly acceptable figure. Now let’s raise boiler pressure to 225 psi. Tractive effort jumps to 52,754 lbs, and factor of adhesion drops to about 3.65. Pretty slippery. 300 psi gives 70,339 lbs of tractive effort, and an impossible to control factor of adhesion of 2.74. That’s how you ruin a locomotive, best to just leave the damn thing alone.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 i mean with a new boiler. this was a reference to running gear
@@CoalChrome Did you read any of what I said above? You *cannot* raise boiler pressure just because you feel like it. Doesn’t matter if it’s a new boiler, 300 psi would destroy 290, and if it didn’t, the locomotive would be unusable due to an unacceptable factor of adhesion.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 i stopped caring
@@CoalChrome My apologies, I forget that not everybody lives in reality
Uh, that would be "leemah", OH, not the bean.
The bean pronunciation is the correct version.
I'm just pumped up that I will be getting the A&WP P-74 Pacific Pack (including of course 290 ^^) next month and be using it in my copy of Trainz Simulator 12! :D Be ready for when that happens from me, everyone. X3
Of course, this video added to the hype meter for me. X3
Cool