Cheap tools will HOLD YOU BACK
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
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You know, I really appreciate these pointers and, and i'd like to return the favour. The best tool you have is yourself. If you get sick, you're not making money regardless of how good tools you have. Get a fume extractor bud, take care of yourself, and Tommy ofc. Thanks for the tips!
20x 18' roll up door on either end of the building. Find me an extractor that beats Oklahoma wind in that situation and I'm all ears.
42Fab - Metal Fabrication & Signage wind is a mig welders worst enemy or I always run into that problem with wind with doors open and fans in the summer
@@mesh1248 it's a balancing act, we're shielded from direct wind, but still have a lot of air flow. I run my gas flow higher than most
I’ll be honest I used to think a lot like you. Big building high roof, good airflow I’ll be fine. We took on a job repairing galvanised stillages and I ended up in hospital coughing up blood. Invested in an Optrel air fed mask, wasn’t cheap about £750 here in the UK. Started out only using it on the galv stuff but now I use it on everything I weld. Once I started using it and my health improved I realised what I had been doing to my body. So my advice for what it’s worth is try one they are worth it.
@@davefaulder welding galvanized without protection was the problem.
Pure facts! I learned this not only in terms of equipment, but with racing parts, shocks, engine parts etc. Spent money on some cheap shocks hoping it would work, but then went all out on some nice shocks and was super happy.
It's everywhere. I dropped $200 on a nice tripod and kicked myself doing it UNTIL it showed up. worth every cent.
I like to think of tool and equipment purchases like making investments in myself, and/or setting myself up for success!! Couldn't agree with you more that cheap tools will hold you back!
There’s an old saying, a bad workman always blames his tools !
It pays to buy quality, i set my business up on a shoestring and bought 2nd hand quality kit with the intention of "upgrading" in the future..6yrs on and i'm still using the same kit. treat it right and it will look after you. thanks for sharing :)
Buy whatever it takes to get started, but once you can afford it get the best tools for what you do. Don't be afraid to buy used quality machines if the price is right
I second this comment
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I third it? Especially until you see if you're business is gonna be fairly successful
The same goes for quality used hand tools, like sockets & wrenches. I find a lot of Proto sockets for 50¢ each at the flea markets.
pawn shops are a great source of used hand tools.
@@42Fab *stolen
When I was first starting out it pained me more to tell a customer I didn't have the capacity to do a job then spending the money. Thanks for the great video
Buying quality tools is good advice for any job you are going to do often. There are times that I will buy the cheapest tool that I can find because I know I'm not going to use it often. Like I needed to cut a few concrete block but this would be a one time job so I bought the cheapest concrete blade for my skill saw. Now that you know I do buy cheap tools I also will spend the money on a quality tool that I will only use a few times. Things like pullers and specialty tools that fit one exact job from one manufacturer. I don't like those tools that are so expensive to do only a few jobs but sometimes you have to bite the bullet and spend the money to get the job done. Even if your doing something for a hobby, run it like a business. If you are going to air up basket balls and an occasional tire don't buy a $3000 air compressor and on the flip side if your running a plasma table it might be worth paying for a pretty good but not top of the line air compressor. Comes down to think it through and see where your money is best spent. Now me, I'm pretty lucky. I can afford to buy some tools because I want to. I purchased my very small but decent quality iron worker (used) for $1000. Didn't even have a job for it at the time. Two years later got a job doing some stairs and oh did it pay for itself in spades. What a time saver. Keep an eye out for deals. Got a CNC mill and manual lathe for $4600. Man did I ever get a good deal on that.
Great advice! I can't count how many times I've bought cheap tools, broke and then replaced it with good stuff. The only good thing with cheap tools is if you are trying a new process. A cheap tool may provide a starting point to change it, to learn and improve the process.
Totally valid point. I understand "replace it with something better if it breaks" but on stuff I rely on daily I can't get behind that. Experiments: totally
@@42Fab copy that! I've kicked myself every time the cheap stuff breaks. Totally not worth it.
This is a great point! and also where some guys in the automotive field struggle, good tools are expensive and in some cases required to do a job efficiently. Being efficient in business is key, and often good tools are the way to get there!
I agree start off with what will get you by no matter if its cheap or not then when you have the money upgrade to the better tools and or machines and if you can look for auctions or businesses going out of business or even look at yard sales
Just a suggestion but that job could of been done faster with an .045 dual shield wire and it would of made those welds look a bit nicer. I would trust it over a solid wire ran at higher amperage any day.
The smaller machines often times are not setup to run such large wire, but my brother and I had a job like this pop up last year where I cnc plasma cut small parts from 3/4" steel plate and he welded it with .035 dual shield in his miller 252. I have more welding experience than he does and read about the dual shield but hadn't tried it (I hate flux processes and will choose tig and then mig), while he was skeptical about trying it, he changed his tune afterward. I need to pick up a roll to try in my miller 211 inverter for the occasional heavier welding jobs like shown in this video.
We have a saying in the uk, false economy. Saving money short term only to have to pay out again later. That said I am ok buying the same tool twice. Once as a cheap entry level price and then buy better if i use the first one enough that it breaks
if youre into expensive tools. . . . look into Baileigh industrial . i LOVE their stuff. $$$ , cant afford it even though it pays for its self over time , but such a time saver and they last . can repeat work for production . their benders , cold saws , and finger brakes, are the best ive worked with . used to build certified race car and offroad truck chassis .
good little example video of some of their offerings. know you dont do so much tube work , but youd love the cold saw. really cuts down on metal dust in the shop also . quiet too . end mill notcher is slick , works off a center orbit . so you set its orbit to tube diameter, and it self centers and notches . czcams.com/video/LQOFlsyKj8c/video.html
Also buy 2 bottles of each gas you use so you don't run out in the middle of a job, soon as I run out I hook up the second bottle and head in for more gas as soon as possible. never never run out of your welding or cutting gas
I do this too, excellent tip!!
Amen, I have 4, I order a change from the yard when 2 are spent. The deliver a few times a month for $10, worth it!
I have 2 welders one cheap one from HF and a Lincoln Electric 210mp both I use for home use and little jobs here and there but I will never need to buy another one for what I do
I totally agree with you, I buy the best I can afford no short cuts. I bought Fronuis, Hypertherm, Esab, Millwaukee Makita , Evo, etc maybe Mike Festiva will watch your video as he is always going for the cheap.
I just purchased the same compressor. The Ingersol Rand before this one lasted over 20 years. Great compressor!
I agree with this whole heartedly. I’m on my 5th and 6th welders in the 4-5 years I’ve been welding. The 2 I have now will probably outlive and outperform me. Both HTP.
I started out with buying cheap tools but made the same conclusion. Beter save up and buy the best you can. I have a bunch off cheap broken angle grinders. For that money I could have bought a nice reliable quality one.
If it's bright green and says Ryobi.... put it back on the shelf and go save some more money
6:37 I see that porosity
don't forget premium consumables. Carbide, abrasive discs, sand paper, glue, fasteners (spend the extra money on stainless)
I'm trying to get my wife to watch this....she doesn't get it. Lol Hobby isn't quite like a production shop, but I'm not giving up yet.
Hope I can help
@@42Fab - Problem is I'm an attorney with an office in Moore, OK and I've been so busy that I decided to sell most of my expensive tools because I wasn't using them. I had a Hobart 135 and a Hypertherm 45 (no internal compressor). Hard to have that much $$ in tools that aren't getting used.
I can't decide what machine to buy. That's where I'm at. I want to buy a machine that does it all. Only problem is propulse 220mts doesn't tig aluminum. I've never tig welded before but I will learn, and I just want to be able to tig aluminum as well. There are other brands and machines but each has pros and cons, I wish there was that perfect machine. I heard "buy once cry once" from essential craftsman, absolutely true.
It's the eternal problem. To make a machine that does everything it would have drawbacks that make buying two a better answer
I have to agree with Whiskey Throttle on the fume extractor, dont wait till you are in your 50s.
So, let me see if I understand you correctly. What you're saying is, it's better to buy a made in the USA welder then a Chinese welder that won't hold up as well? Is that what you're saying?
2500 bucks on a Millermatic 252 is worth the money any day of the week
$2500 on a PowerMax 65 is also always worth the money
Same with a used LN 25 are running right around $1,200 worth the money
Trailblazer 325 pick them up for right around $6,000 way worth the money
Metabo paddle grinders $199 a piece always worth the money
Victor 250 oxy-acetylene regulators with extra hose 350 bucks is well worth the money
one of the cheap tools I don't mind is the new Vulcan welding helmet from Harbor Freight. I have a 3 m a sentinel Lincoln Viking a Miller airpap and I still find myself grabbing the Vulcan helmet
I'm with you until the paddle. Trigger all the way!
The PowerMax 65 is great. While I cnc cut plenty of thinner material, I had a job similar to the one in the video but with 3/4" plate. My brother pre drilled the pierce holes on his cnc mill since the 65 will only pierce 5/8" steel. I considered the powermax 85, but I don't have a way to move heavy plate in a home shop, so that limits the ability to do much heavy plate anyway. The 252 is great for shop use and was perfect for dual shield on the 3/4" plate, but my brother wishes he had my Miller 211 inverter or better yet the 220 inverter. The 252 is no good for field work and my 211 is ideal. For someone doing a large amount of heavy material, the new 255 makes sense. My bandsaw is a H&M Femi 120 abs and my brother has the 160 version. The 120 is a good size for mobile use and my neck and back issues, while the 160 is twice as heavy but more capable. These tools have certainly paid for themselves.
I agree 100%.
This is a big dilemma as a hobbyist. In my Landscaping/ construction company i always buy the best Of the best. But in my hobby of welding its hard to justify a chop-saw priced at $6-700 when a $200 would do the job.
When it comes to big machines like welding or machinery buy once cry once I agree with
Quick question, are those dewalt angle grinders the 20volt or 60?
I only TIG and Stick, and my "that green box" has been good to me - but like you said their stock accessories are junk. I never even plugged them in when I got the unit. Did you do a vid on the problems you had with their MIG setup?
I'm Not into downer videos
Nice, good job
Good video Richard
I know HTP is a sponsor and all but maybe you can answer this question as it relates to the topic you’re discussing in this video.
I am a high school teacher looking to buy 4 tig welders, if I can afford Miller should I go that way or should I buy HTP and spend the savings elsewhere?
Dennis Pope Theres a good analagy between chainsaws and welders: miller/stihl are the most expensive yet durable, lincoln/husqvarnas are just as good but more economical, htp/echo are on the hobby edge but get the job done
HTP is a hobby machine? I've run hundreds of pounds of wire through both the pro pulse 200 and 220 without so much as a liner replacement. HTP is a sponsor in that they provide some equipment but they don't pay me to say shit, so I could bash them if I wanted to, but there is fundamentally nothing about these machines I don't like.
I'd spend the money where you see it benefiting the students the most. If you chose to go with HTP, hit my link up, the beer fund appreciates it.
42Fab - Metal Fabrication & Signage; I will keep it in mind. I’ve used your amazon store to buy grinder supplies already and will continue to do so.
This dude likes to keep it real.
Whats that project with the womans body? Is that something you sell?
I don’t normally do this kind of thing but “first comment” yay first time and last time I’m gonna do that lol
I'll probably get an HTP mig welder once things pick up a bit later in the spring.
I love mine
@@42Fab
I bet. I just want something a little more portable than the old giant 3-phase 480V Miller we run in the shop.
What's your profile picture
@@cavemanjoe7972 Have you considered an Esab Rebel series? I love mine to death and back.
@@miguelmedina5700
My profile picture is a solid 304 stainless drive roller that I fixed for a commercial bakery. The bore had been worn out, so I bored it out larger on a lathe, made and broached a keyed sleeve to fit it, and pressed & welded it in place. Much cheaper to fix than to buy a new one and need to wait six weeks for the part to arrive.
In north america, you might make your money back from an expensive tool in ... lets say X uses. In a poorer country big equipment costs the same but you will sell what you make for much much less. You will repay the machine with 10X uses. Buying the ideal tools just isn't an option most of the time.
In a poorer country you're better off with simpler, older equipment, anyway. Things that don't need control boards replaced or digital displays that can malfunction.
@@cavemanjoe7972 Older equipment, an old lathe or welder for example. Are usually more expensive than a new chinese one.
Having control boards and stuff is not really what makes stuff like this cheap or expensive.
get some eye protection! you only have 2! not worth loosing them over comfort
Next welder upgrade.. fronius or esab?
Edit: Spelling
Whatever suits your needs. I'm pretty well set with my HTP gear right now
42Fab - Metal Fabrication & Signage ah I made a typo I meant fronius
Are htp welders mig stick and tig?
The new pro pulse 220 is, yes. The link in description will take you to the info page
My question, how did you get HTP to "sponsor" you with these tools?
HTP sees what I am doing as talking to the people they want to sell to. The time I've put into demonstrating what I do leads to people respecting the opinions I have WHERE I have earned that respect. This is why I am happy to work with HTP - they do not ask me to be anything other than what I am. I have likewise turned down a good number of other sponsors who wanted me to "script read" their sales pich - which I do not do.
For full disclosure: HTP has sent me machines to demonstrate and given me discounts on others I wanted, but has never cut me a check to do what I do. I have no hesitations to share this info as my opinions are my own, those companies that want to come along for the ride are welcome to - IF they make a product worth promoting.
Newer sub here, awesome content!
Swap that piston machine for a screw compressor. Better air by a long way.
you want to ship one my way? I'm game all day
@@42Fab Cheapskate.
You get what you pay for in life! ((( most the time )))
Gotta say , I loved your sign off "don't suck "
Ugh! Everlast, the most overrated junk around.
You are not talking to people in your video, you are shouting at them. Do you realize this?
If that's how you take it, and ascribe a negative motivation to it, I am sorry your outlook isn't a bit brighter.
@@42Fab I was just trying to help. In the off camera narrating, you use a calm voice, but you have an aggressive tone when filming in the shop.
I noticed in my videos I was yelling a bit, then I realized I was doing it because I had a poor microphone that was hard to pick up. I got a new microphone and had to adjust my voice back lower. Maybe you are experiencing this.
When you work in a noisy environment you tend to speak loud all the time ....you must have inside climate controlled office job . Thats different from where Real Men work ..lmao
dafuq, htp has no name at all here in Germany, why do i watch this video? pls leave my recommendation site now!!!
Says “buy once, cry once” while using free tools.
The difference between free, bought, and sponsored is free is free, bought is traded for money I traded my time for in the past, sponsored is traded for my time to edit videos and build this channel