Gabor Maté and Cornel West on Gaza and the Human Soul
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Presidential candidate Cornel West and author Gabor Maté met for the first time this week to discuss the horrors of Israel’s war on Gaza.
“I don’t know about you,” Dr. Maté says to Dr. West, “but for me, what’s going on is one of the heaviest things, if not the heaviest thing, I’ve witnessed in my whole life. I don’t know how to compare tragedies, but there’s something about what’s going on right now that seems heavier and darker.”
West responds: “When you watch precious human beings being literally killed, crushed, demeaned, degraded, day after day, it makes you think that this particular historical moment has a certain grimness and darkness that others don’t.”
The two men use their complex histories with tragedy and suffering to analyze the horror of the current moment.
“I’ve always felt that no evil would surprise me and no despair would paralyze me,” West continues, “because you and I know the history of the species.”
But the conversation that stems from this is a much more hopeful one, where the scholars’ vast study of philosophy and history intertwine to create a message not of helplessness but of possibility.
Hear the full conversation on how oppressed people create music of rebellion, their favorite philosophers, and a final message to take from the conversation: “Never again is not a tribal slogan. It’s a universal slogan. It applies to everybody.”
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I respect Cornell West for being the only Candidate running for president calling for a ceasefire and freedom and justice for Palestinians while all others are ruled by donations from APAC and won't have the courage to speak out against Israel's horrific genocide agenda even though 76% of US citizens are screaming for ceasefire ! For that West has my vote!
Mine too
Can't forget Claudia de la Cruz with the Party for Socialism and Liberation
love love love dr. west, but psl and jill stein are also calling it out :)
Yessiree.
Not the only one but an important voice
Thank you, Katie & Aaron, for putting this together. We are all traumatised by the unfolding genocide beamed into our lives. Needed to listen to these two wise, compassionate men amidst the horror.
@pa_2600 Many Americans feel they have "souls", and that these so-called "souls" are wounded by the suffering of others.
Especially when our government is creating the suffering in our names. And we're not allowed to speak up, as though we have no freedom of speech.
But.. I'm sure you foreign Satanists are having a fun time.
Traumatized? 4sur calm down, you goof troop
Why are Zionist’s showing their absolute worst to the world?
@@Bovice..YT-handles-are-fn-dumbwitnessing the suffering of any human being can be traumatising for many people - but you have to be sensitive to feel this - which you are obviously not.
Pathetic, weak and ridiculous.
Beautiful conversation between 2 wise elders. We need more of this in the world.
I have written truths and wisdoms on messageboards, and now in YT comment sections, for 23 years now. From direct personal experience, and challenges to our established beliefs, is a great education aquired.
Readers often despise experiencers---- and YT exemplifies this. A famous author complimented my work, and also taught me that authors suffer as ideas seem to have a shelf life.
In those 23 years I have never been asked for an interview--- yet early in my writing journey, Ph.Ds used to frequent the coffeehouse I frequented for over 4 years. We had some wonderful conversations.
One respected customer once told me that I was much more intelligent than her deceased husband's group of associates; he was the Chancellor of an East Coast University. She was 85 and still taking a class each quarter at Stanford. 😊
Life is a curious adventure.
My recent question online has been:
*Was Jesus a Jewish Palestinian?"
Dr. West referred to "Palistinian Jew, Jesus".
Often, the Zeitgeist is influenced by unacknowledged outsiders not looking for attention but give a false impression that they are. Great thoughts are stolen by readers--- the intention of anonymous philosophers.
One of those "elders is supposed to be running for president. That does not happen unless he gets himself in front of regular people. What happened to all the talk about going to the people in "Trump "country. If he truly want the job as President he needs to be doing more work!
One must remember, that no matter how brilliant one is, the greatest lesson we must learn is humility.❤
@@joylarson9040 Very true. And from humility comes wisdom.
Sadly, readers can employ a false humility as they take the stage of conventional wisdom; though, is it really enduring wisdom?
one of my first questions that I asked in the coffeehouse: "What is the difference between confidence and arrogance?"
One aspect to a "Rock Star" is the gift to induce your fans to "project" their hidden desires for fame and fortune onto you. This will be an obstacle for Dr. West--- unlike Donald Trump who is gifted in that way of inducing "projection". Is Donald Trump truly "arrogant"?
As a 66 year old socialist l have felt like giiving up every single day, not today, thank you Katie and Aaron.
@namelastname-qg6qw l survived Margaret Thatcher
41 years old...dont give up. even twenty years behind...we have been listening to you!
Right there with in all sentiments! I hope today is a good day for you!
Please don't give up
At 74 I am not giving up take care, and grace and kindness ❤
@@charles.patrickbasson4040 Thanks, I've never given up, and never will.
Gabor Mate has a tendency to move me to tears without me understanding why. I know he has given me hope and healing. Cornel West also is rarely courageous and enlightening voice. He is such an inspiration. He once said Socrates flaw was his inability to cry and shed tears. This conversation certainly didn't fail to move me. I believe this is the kind of dialogue we need to inspire and kindle. I'm cheering for you from Oslo Norway.
Socrates had other flaws, besides being anti-democratic and never speaking up for the victims of horrific atrocities from the Athenians on Melos.
What a perfect warm blanket in a cold, vicious world! Humans cannot survive the horrific truth of the Middle East slaughter, the plight of Palestinians, the racist arrogance of Netanyahu and his cronies. To take an hour out of life and listen to wisdom, informed commentary in a context of possibility and earnest love was wonderful. Thank you Aaron and Katie. L'chaim!
@pa_2600
the mere Fact that we Continue this way TODAY with all our Social, Cultural, Technological, Scientific etc. Advancements is what makes it even more Vicious and Dire Now...
that's why people like Steven Pinker who say that the World is better-off Today are simply WRONG. of course, in a lot of ways things are better. but the Continuing if these Man-Made Problems in times of so much Progress/Advancements is what makes it even WORSE Today.... 😕
Unfortunately, Israel does not have a role model of peace and humility. The US can hardly be a role model for any nation. Slaughtering over a million innocent Iraqi civilians and destroying their country based on a lie, voids the US of ever being a role model for peace and humility.
Pro-Israel rally recently in London. Did not hear any slanders against Palestinians. Not once. No hatred, no vitriol. Compared to the pro-terrorist rallies. Will never forget that I heard: "Gas the jews!" in Australia, in my life time. That was a disgrace.
@@angelrojo6466 you forgot to mention that there are more Jews in the pro Palestinian rallies than there are Jews in the pro Israel rallies. And it's Jews who are calling out the Israeli government as terrorists. What do you make of all that?
I don't know what rallies from around the world you've seen, or where you're getting your information from, but I haven't seen 1 pro Hamas rally in any country. You have intellectual abandonment by claiming pro Palestinian rallies are pro terrorist rallies. I think you need a long break from the internet.
@@angelrojo6466
that's just your Confirmation Bias working Overtime there... 🤷♂
Gabor is a beauty. Aaron has that same calm certainty and humbleness as his dad has as he tackles controversial issues in his journalist career. And it bothers the special interests as his researched truth is irrefutable. Great humans serving humanity.
Yes, the apple fell right to the foot of the tree. Like father like son. Two great human beings Gabor and Aaron. Great talk. Professor West in his wheelhouse. Great talk.
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there is no question that having 24/7 coverage available at your fingertips with frequent live video with English translation makes us all feel part of this Palestine destruction . I only wish other global conflicts could share their level of international views and empathy.Watching horrific scenes of the ongoing genocide in Sudan with video of people being buried alive . I 🙏🏾 that this moment raises global humanity consciousness to end all these atrocities once and for all.
from Gaza, thank you Sirs
A humanizing gift for troubled times. Thank you.
Gabor, "it is not hope, it is possibility".
I needed those words to keep me going today. It is so incredible hard to have an open heart these days.
Thank you
Watching this conversation on humanity between these two great minds soothes the soul. Bless both Katie & Aaron 🙏
Such a rich conversation. Two legends. The only time I have seen Gabor meeting an equal or an elder to which he opens as a student.
Another one would be his conversation with A.H.Almaas whom Gabor considers a mentor.
Gabor was smiling, he even laughed. I have never seen him this engaged, open and relaxed. Bless them!
I will check it out!
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@@AKAndoh Yes! This stuck out to me and I felt joy seeing it.
The rally against anti-semitism recently in London. Did not hear any slanders against Palestinians. Not once. No hatred, no vitriol. Compared to the pro-terrorist rallies. Will never forget that I heard: "Gas the Jews!" in Australia, in my life time. That was a disgrace.
How does Cornel West recall so effortlessly names, dates, details, passages and stories? I ❤️it.
This conversation blesses me greatly. I’m encouraged by the possibility of a better reality Cornel & Gabor speak of. We must all fail better. 💞
And what I took from it the possibility is already there: in them, in us. And that's how life is sustained in n the face & forces of destruction.
Stop US imperialism which is doing the same with Greater Tigray in Ethiopia/Eritrea for instance, Greater Israel in the Middle East and the Holocaust of the Congo of 6 million deaths since 96...just so we can be addicted & depressed on our "smart" phones because we are landless. Every animal needs territory to eat from, rest & sleep on. Mother nature provides everything for free but man is making us pay using war to territory hoard & subjugate our landlessness.
It makes it really convenient to find the works of who he's quoting. Found great stuff every time he speaks. He has a built in source citing machine
Thank you Cornel West and Gabor Mate. Both amazing !!
Amazing, just amazing conversation. Thank you. And YES, There is something special about Palestine, especially Gaza.
Now let's see a meeting between Gabor Mate and Norman Finkelstein. Great interview with Cornel!
Thank you, gentlemen. You make me feel less alone.
Thank God for CZcams, that I can be a fly on the wall listening to great minds converse.
A wonderful conversation! I’m saving it so I can listen to it again and perhaps a third and fourth time. My deepest gratitude 🙏🏽
Exactly so! If I allowed myself to have heroes, these two would tower...
@@crowdedcrow3098~ Ditto..
Helps explain why I’m feeling so sad too. It’s horrific. ❤😢😢
How often is the world allowed the opportunity to spend an our if our lives with these two men of distinction and wisdom. This is a moment in my life that I will treasure. Thank you both for the honor to be in your presence.
Thank you gentlemen, if only wise, compassionate heads as yourselves were part of world governance.
Thank you brothers - brothers and sisters, everyone who is participating in making this plight of the Palestinians visible in some way...thank you, thank you! You warm our hearts and make us not feel alone, as human beings! Much love and gratitude!
I LOVE IT! Epic conversation. These two brothers are two of the Realest of the Real. 🙏🏾 Blessings, Everyone.
It’s a great pleasure listening to these two intelligent and compassionate men, thank goodness Social Media platforms are promoting men like these two giants.
Thank you Katie and Aaron for arranging this conversation and sharing it with us.
Thank you for bringing us this special edition of Useful Idiots with Gabor Maté and Cornel West. Excellent talk. 💯
I just want my first black truth and justice President Please 🙏 ❤❤❤I want to sing again
what a gift in this time, Thank you.
I myself am always a student when 2 people who are talking truth to power in the tradition of the oppressed and dispossessed of the world. In solidarity. Peace.
THANK YOU,
It is a privilege to listen.
Two of my favorite people! Prepare to be informed and yet...comforted. What a privilege. 😍
Disappointed by these two men. So much time focusing on what Israel did/didn't do. No time discussing the extreme Islamic group targeting Israeli's. They never speak about this in their talks on the subject. A very narrow discussion lacking nuance and diversity. Disappointed:( I guess they do not want to alienate their SJW audience. Pro-Israel rally recently in London. Did not hear any slanders against Palestinians. Not once. No hatred, no vitriol. Compared to the pro-terrorist rallies. Will never forget that I heard: "Gas the jews!" in Australia, in my life time. That was a disgrace.
@@angelrojo6466 OK, Zionist astroturf. Please stop deflecting & discrediting truth tellers.
@@angelrojo6466 17,001 (today, and counting) innocent dead slaughtered Palestinians and those remaining now subjected to no resources, no homes, no water, no food, many seriously injured, 24 hospitals bombed, no medical care, no siupplies, infrastructure destroyed, poisoned water, starvatioin, traumatized children forever scarred, infectious diseases emerging and so forth. Netanyahu has created his very own hell on earth in real time for all of us to see. His response is not 'proportional'. It is illegal and barbaric. Your point is moot. Just as no one has ever questioned the revolt of Nat Turner, the response of Hamas is understood. When you have nothing you have nothing to lose. The oppressor must pay. What goes around comes around. Israel's barbaric Apartheid state is a social experiment that must end. As Bibi points to future maps with no Palestinians on it it is clear that is not his endgame. As he continues to bomb civilians and shoot them at point blank range he is committing ever more war crimes. The discussion must concern itself with the greater horror, the one motivated out of greed and arrogance and hatred, the one creating HELL ON EARTH.
Joy to the ears 💜🙏🏽
Two beautiful scholars. Thanks!!
two great minds
The only thing wrong with this video is that it should be seen/heard by literally a thousand times the number of people who will see/hear it. As with most of the other comments I see, I too thank you, Katie & Aaron, for posting this & sending the link for it to my email address via my subscription to Useful Idiots. Keep up the GREAT work.
Yes, there are so many videos I just want people to see front right and centre on mainstream media. It is soooooo frustrating. I can't even say what I really think on social media
Genius to bring these two together. So rich and heartful. Thank you!
I have the pictures of both of them put up in my apartment because they are such inspirations. Couldn't be happier to witness them in conversation.
"Real, but not yet realized " ❤
You may think as yourselves as “Elders” and “OGs” but I hope you amazing gentlemen know the importance and impact you both have on the youth of this world. I’ve introduced both of you to my children who are now in their 20s & 30s and they appreciate you just as much if not more than I do. I hold on to the possibility of the youth of this world. I’ve witnessed the cultural shift in them and it’s what keeps me going. Sending so much love and gratitude to you both.
What a joy and a privilege to witness these two gentlemen in the same place at the same time - Thank you.
Yes, indeed.
Totally!
this is exactly what I needed this morning; Thank you Aaron and Katie for making this happen. Lots of love to you all.
Thank you all for bringing this discussion to us all. It was wonderful to hear a discussion held at such a high intellectual level by two great and compassionate minds. This was a rarity in today's modern world.
Love to listen to Cornell West, it just draws the humanity back from anyone who’s living far from it especially now, thanks you.
Beautifully informative and enlightening conversation ❤
Its been an absolute pleasure listening to these two lovely gentlemen how wise and compassionate they are.. I agree with their remarks about the healing of music as it helped me a lot after my precious husband passed. My heart aches for the Palestinian people I really hope Israel and the atrocities they are committing are stopped as soon as possible. Wonderful people out there demonstrating for justice pity about certain governments that are staying silent and have yet to grow a backbone.
Wow that was beautiful ❤ The two of them are such a blessing to the world. Loved hearing Gabor’s voice lighten up a bit, maybe relieving some stress, while talking to Cornel. I believe this talk was good for them both, as it was for us all also💫 Honored to witness two legends, become friends🌟
Absolutely.
You wonderful souls and blessed, powerful minds❤ ! I listen to your words almost every day.
Thank you so much 🎉
West for President !!!!!
❤❤❤❤love you both . Standing up against genocide in Gaza❤❤❤❤
When humanity talks causing the awakening of the heart of our hearts. What a beautiful conversation. Thank you
I love both of these men so much. I feel so less alone when I listen/watch them. Thank you!!!!
I second that.
Aaron & Katie: thanks for having Papa-Bear Maté converse with Doc West.
West has suffered lately after dipping in that cesspool we call politics, and came out with an unfortunate stench (eg: the feud with Jimmy Dore).
Papa-Bear Maté is able to make the spark in Doc West come out and shine :)
Best chat ever. True humanitarians.
Dr. West and Dr. Maté thank you both for having the spirit of God to sit down and have and share this living and truthful 💯 conversation ❤️
This is a MASTERPIECE… two amazing human beings whom I deeply admire. Thanks Aaron and Katie 🫶
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏! This had me tear up a couple of times and then rejoice in laughter again, this has been a sermon! From the great religion that doesn't need a name because it's love for humans and all sentient beings, and life itself. Gives hope, courage and a smile in those dark days. Thank you!
Truly honored to hear this conversation with wisdom flowing! Thank you 💜
What a refreshing and wonderful conversation. Thank you Katie and Aaron for posting this here.
36:04 “I have such grief… and some of us channel that grief into activism but the grief is still there”
“We must do that and all we can so that we are not numbed, our hearts are not hardened, and our conscience doesn’t become coursened”
Ooof that hit me like a ton of bricks
Such a beautiful and enlightening conversation with these two amazing compassionate human beings ! Thank you for organizing it Katie and Aaron !❤️🙏🏻
Thank you, thank you Useful Idiots team for blessing us with this conversation today! Much love to all of you.
there are not enough like buttons for this conversation
there is only love
thank you to everyone who made this happen
Absolute true.
two of my favorite people
Oh yes! 💕
I could listen to both of you for hours, hours on end. Thank you and please do it again soon.
Beautiful convo. Would LOVE to see a 1-on-1 between Dr mate and Norman finkelstein. Would be so fascinating to see dr mate’s emotional intelligence open up Dr finkelstein’s deep compassion where he doesn’t have to educate his interviewer on the facts.
Aaron and the Grey Zone are tops.
And Max and Anya !!
A much-needed conversation during this time of nightmares. Thank you!
Thank you 🙏 you both are a credit to humanity
Ohhhmygerd! That fed my soul y'all! Two lovely people, having the most fantastic loving conversations! I'm refusing to redirect my eyes from Gaza this time. Although it would be much easier to do so, for my mental health. I'm a disabled veteran with ptsd and a host of other problems that led me to Gabor years ago. I just love him so much. I didn't know much about Mr. West until I saw him speak on the occupation and genocide. So this was a particularly joyful treat for me, my heart and my mind! Ty Katie and Aaron! I watch EVERY episode ❤
Sending love ❤️ from the UK be kind to yourself .
My mother always said Treat other's as you would like to be treated .
Have a wonderful day..
Thank you Katie and Aaron. Two very special human beings. We need more people to listen.
“The weight of this sad time we must obey. Speak what we feel not what we ought to say. The oldest hath borne most; we that are young Shall never see so much nor live so long.” Edgar at the end of King Lear.
Thank you so much to the most beautiful wise brothers. May they long continue in their truth telling. I’m going to watch and learn again.
I am so grateful to listen to two great philosophers of our time. I majored in Philosophy and Government in my 40's some 30 years ago to gain more knowledge for my acting and theatre directing career.( to research and research) I am basically retired now, but I do agree that when you learn you remain young. I attended two protests for the Palestinians (the last one on one good leg!) and on Fridays I hand out Free Julian Assange pamphlets. It is as Roger Waters said, 'read, read, and read again'. Thank you.
I have alot of respect for you
I find it odd that a lot of people simply don't want to learn once they leave school. I'm guessing the school environment doesn't encourage a lifetime of learning. Today we have access to one of the greatest tools for learning, the internet, it seems silly to waste it
This was so heartwarming to watch and absorb - Thankyou to everyone who worked to get this to happen
Dear Sirs, yesterday I "grew" older. 66 now. I want to thank you both deeply because listening to you was the best birthday gift ever. I live in Brazil and I thought we had a fair share of horror with the criminal president we had, but then the present situation in the world, especially Palestine, made me think that we are even "lucky", that our problems aren't so bad. You two make me believe that there is still possibilities for humankind. I love you both.
Really enjoyed this exchange of ideas. Without going into too much detail about the present horror in the world Gabor and Cornell explored possibilities that are barely ever covered in any kind of media about the psychology of what we're going through and the deep roots of humanity's problems.
I'm glad for these two people that I've admired for some time now could share some company to recharge their own batteries to continue the difficult struggle of looking for and sharing painful truths.
This is absolutely incredible! Exceptional human beings, having a much needed and brilliant conversation. I appreciate this so much! I’m the one always nagging on all of your videos to get you two together… My entire month I’ve been debilitatingly depressed about what’s going on in Palestine and I hate the holidays (thanks trauma) And my Thanksgiving was extra bleak… Seeing this today was so uplifting, which was much needed. Thank you both so much for all you do. So much respect and admiration for both of you.
Thanksgiving for what? At the expense of another people being pushed out, like the Palestinians
Please 🙏 be nice to yourself, Lauren ❤sending love from the UK..
Appreciate all who made this sharing of wisdom possible. Worth a wide share. ❣️❣️
🙏🙏 so much wisdom between these 2 here
When great minds speak the truth ❤
These people can save humanity ❤
Hugs all around 🌍🌎🌏
Thanks for hosting these two intellectual souls. It was a pleasure to witness this conversation.
I needed to listen to this so much, after seeing and hearing so much hate in the world I needed to remember that there are good people, loving people ❤ thank you.
Thanks guys I really enjoyed it and laughed.
We push for the possibilities for humanity
What a wonderful treat this was! And Thank you, Thank you!! Katie and Aaron for making it happen. No two people have resonated with my soul more than Drs. West and Mate. I was deeply moved by their dialogue and camaraderie. The point Dr. Mate made early in their conversation that the current genocide of Palestinian people is different than the massive slaughter of humanity in recent history as there is a darkness which seems to have enveloped the world such that we have never known before very much resonated with me. And speaking of music, the song "Candles in the Rain" by Melanie Safka is a song which in my mind is an anthem for this moment in history like no other. And one line in particular, "We all bled inside each others' wounds......"
This conversation lifted my Soul and helped clarify some of my own feelings. God bless these beautiful people
As an "elder" chronologically, I will ascribe my age to getting better, gaining more wisdom that I freely pass on in the work I will never stop doing. Love empowering souls. Best interview ever. Thank you Katie and Aron for bringing us all together generationally. #FreeFreePalestine
interesting conversation, thank you both
Such a beautiful, courageous, and loving discussion, my brothers under God. Kevy Michaels
Listening to these two beautiful souls made me tear up a little. Thank you Cornel West and thank you Gabor Maté for the much needed conversation about Humanity and how we treat each other. ❤️&✌🏾 to all of you 🙏🏾.
Omygod. What a wonderful gift. Since October 7, I've found it increasingly difficult to breathe, what with having a genocide livestreamed into my living room and all. I didn't even notice, but as this truce, this lull in the slaughter, has begun to take hold, I've been able to breathe again, if only for the moment (I know this conflict isn't over).
But being allowed to experience this conversation, if only viscerally, has enabled me to laugh and smile for the first time in a while. Again, I know that this too shall pass.
Two of my favorite minds and hearts.
Thank you so much, Drs West and Mate, for a thanksgiving gift beyond my ability to express the value of. And thank you, Aaron and Katie.
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Thank you so much for giving the opportunity to listen to those two wise persons. Love you both Katie and Aaron. Greetings from Istanbul ❤
Merci beaucoup !
Only one choice for the new President, Dr. Cornel West.
This is kind of person that will show empathy for all peoples of the world. What an air of change it will bring to America.
I felt elevated listen to this exchange between wise minds and compassionate hearts. I didn't want it to end. Thank you for speaking so genuinely and truthfully. Thank you for your humanity.
What a great show. Two wise heads for sure. Thanks for bringing this to us. Cheers and best wishes from Scotland.
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This was an amazing video, it has filled my heart with warmth and happiness in these days of unbelievable pain and suffering in the middle east and across the world. Thank you both, what a wonderful world we could have if we had compassionate and intellectual men such as yourselves as leaders.
My 92 year old aunt talks about "the elders" as if it was others. She is still an active actress. Beautifull.
“We live in a country in which words are mostly used to cover the sleeper, not to wake him up; and therefore, it seems to me, the adulation so cruelly proffered our elders has nothing to do with their achievement-which, I repeat, was mighty-but has to do with our impulse to look back on what we now imagine to have been a happier time. It is an adulation which has panic at the root.”
― James Baldwin
Gods, how I love Baldwin. Profound AF.
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why can't we have leaders such as these two ? why are we continually saddled with the wreckage o' human potential, those who deliberately puruse selfishness at the expense o' millions ?