I have two Honda EU2200's, regular and Companion, a Predator 2000 and a Generac 1200. There is no similarity in terms of build quality between them; the Honda's are far superior. I'm a blue collar guy, so I'm always on a budget, but I hate buying junk. I bought the Honda's for emergency home back-up, the Predator to use as a "loaner" (funny, when you own a generator, family expects you to be happy to lend it to them) and the little Generac to power a pitching machine. The conclusion I've come to after using all these is when you buy a cheap generator, you get a cheap generator; fact of life.
Then you came back to reality and realize that even the cheap clones like the predator will last for thousands or hours no problem. These cheap generators are pretty well tested and received by many people who buy them. When you can get a almost identical Yamaha clone for $340 vs a actual Yamaha for $1200+ it makes perfect sense as to what one to buy. You can buy 3 of the clones and still have money in your pocket. Sounds like your cheap gens are running just fine.
@@randybobandy9828 Then you got into a desperate situation where you had to rely on a cheap generator, and it failed on you because it wasn't built to the same quality and couldn't actually be trusted to deliver when you needed it most. There's a purchase price for dependability and reliability, and if you don't pay it... well, you might be happy to gamble, but many people are not.
incredible video. You actually ran the generators and took measurments. Other videos just has a guy standing there and talking to a silent generator, not rigorous like your videos. Thank you so much. It's surprising how much more quiet the newer honda eu2200i was at usable load. Thank you so much for this insight.
Excellent video. I own the GP2200i and a Ryobi 2300 bluetooth .. just went though a 39+ hour continuous outage using the little Generac feeding a 75 foot 10-gauge cord to three 12-gauge cords through a 10-gauge splitter. It powered fridge and separate chest freezer, all electronics, modem-router, chargers, floor fan, house lighting and TV .. it also powered a small 900 watt induction hotplate and a tiny 600 watt microwave. We had big screen movie night with popcorn during the outage .. all done generator style. It was flawless using synthetic oil and just over 3 gallons of fuel for the entire 40 hours.
Awesome sounds like you made it into a good night. Yea and a couple small gens will power most of what people need. AC totally different story unless you have mini splits. Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
I love Honda mowers and generators. But in terms of how loud they are, I’ve found that among similar ones like you tested there just aren’t many real life implications with a 10-15 db difference. Even that very nice Honda would be loud enough to disturb other campers at a primitive state park campsite for instance. My Westinghouse 9500 runs 75-80db at light load, for example. And all of these tests WOULD be a light load for it. So just a bit louder but it’s a legit 9500 running watt generator. And the larger Hondas more comparable to my Westinghouse are quieter than the Westinghouse, making (to me) the volume of these small generators even less important. To me, I have two options: 1. Nice power banks / stations. I have several of these. They have come a very long way over the years and provide a lot more power and ah than folks think! 2. Buy the generator in the size and power you want with the features you want at the price you want. These inverter generators are all relatively quiet compared to their larger counterparts, and very, very loud when compared to a rechargeable/solar power station. :)
I agree power stations have come a long way and are a great alternative to gas generators but even the power stations have limitations unless the station is added on to. Thanks for the comment ..👍🏼😀
@@johnnysweekends agree. Funny how random things you’d never think of having so much draw will exceed whatever the equivalent to surge wattage is on them compared to fuel generators. Guess my main point is the technology is so good that most all are going to be similar enough that in real world applications likely not to notice. But that Honda…..😍
You are out of your mind if you don't think there is much of a difference between 10-15 dB. That's about twice as loud to the human ear. I guess that doesn't matter if you're already deaf.
This was done well. Thank you. If you ever do repeat, would love to see some other generators to see how they perform (those Honda's are nice but very pricey). For me, I want something for going to the beach, or lake, or camping and plan to build an enclosure. I'm ridiculous. Have a fold out 120" movie screen, a portable projector, and battery powered speakers. Like to setup music videos on the beach or sometimes watch movies in the outdoors. Actual draw on power is minimal. Also, just comes in handy to power stuff wherever one may need it. Thanks again, its helping me be choosy.
Have you thought about a power station?? Something from ECOFLOW or bluetti and more. No gas, no noise, use solar to keep battery at 100% It’s a option but the name brand units that are good is going to be about $1000. Just don’t get sand in it.. lol
Well done. It would be interesting to empty each generator, and then run it on a cup of gas at a fixed wattage to determine fuel consumption for each if you still have them. Rather than run time based on total fuel tank size, it would give us a better idea of run time using a fixed fuel amount.
Exactly, from what I ha e researched all are using the same size carb just different models except Honda we will just exclude those. But with all others running a 80cc engine I assume they should be more fuel efficient then the newer Honda at 121cc. Would be a good test for the Honda and maybe the Generac at 50 % load… 👍🏼👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends That's the interesting question to me since the carb, fuel flow rate and efficiency of the inverters are factors. People usually just read off official run time but that's based on the tank size. Most people's experience is a varying load or fixed load. It would be a good science experiment to run even if there is no difference.
my first inverter generator was a wen, it did not last 4 months in Quartzsite Arizona when it died, took it apart and found the back side of the tube from air intake to carb was not seated and could stick a penny inside it so for 4 months is was sucking all the sand and dirt straight into carb into engine and ruined the cylinder and piston, got champion 2500 its been 3 years and still runs like new
This sounds like it was not a problem with the generator at all but more quality control. I don’t like the smaller Wen units but the wen 3800 and 4000 are good units with excellent reviews. At least from my responses I get and reading I’ve done. But the champion 2500 is also a excellent choice..👍🏼 DF is even better 😀
Only got 45hrs out of my predator 2k before it broke. Returned it and got the 2200 honda. Honda is a higher quality unit in every aspect compared to the predator other than fuel economy.
Bud has the 2000 predator and ran it for 9 days 24 hours a day only to fuel up & check oil. He put a NGK plug and 5w30 synthetic since new. Still has it
@@claddagh1000 yeah my buddy has had his for a year and zero issues. Mine was having major issues with the eco throttle and I'm just glad it made it through my wedding day and I returned it after.
@@johnnysweekends true with anything 👍My home generators are champion power, have a regular and dual fuel and have had zero issues with those. They both have worked flawlessly for 4 years.
I have been binge watching all of you generator videos. You do excellent testing! Thanks for all of your work. One question: which 5 gallon gas can do you like best? I searched your channel but didn’t see any gas can comparisons. Thanks.
I use a race fuel jug. Or water container they call them now…😅 I have old race jugs and a newer one or two from VP racing but they are probably all made in the same places lol. I hate the little red gas can I use lol. That thing is junk!!!!! I should get rid of it…🤔
Couldn’t stay away lol. Everyone has an addiction lol. If you have ever been in any type of construction field, equipment gets beat up, destroyed, abused, used till it burns up to all hell and more because your workers could give the slightest crap about your stuff. I see you have a special place in your heart for generators, and it’s cool, I like them myself but it’s nothing more then a piece of equipment to do a job. And I love to see how far things can go. That’s what people have done with engines for ever. We test to the edge and see what they can do. We are either impressed or disappointed in the result. Back when I raced different types of items what do you think we do as racers, test and tune to the edge and back of to where it will live. I keep thinking how much abuse can I throw at this Honda till it melts down…. As far as the info you have given me, don’t think I get it or don’t know some of it. Of course you wanna bigger unit if you are going to run higher loads. But all the research I have done people always buy the least. People buy what the budget can handle. I’m simple showing what a product does. And I will either be impressed or disappointed depending on the price of what the unit costs. I could care less about the abuse because for one thing I have found with my self and most things, if I break it, I’ll fix. Cheers
Yea common story. Sits for ever and fires right up. Told a friend a couple weeks ago to buy this Honda 2000 for sale. Some older lady was clearing stuff out. She couldn’t remember last time it was ran. She said maybe 3 to 5 years but it’s been a while. My budy said it took 5 pulls but fired up puffed a pinch of blue smoke and in about 10 secs ran smooth…😅 lol I could believe it. For the price I said just buy a new carb as long as you can pull it and has compression. All he did was a plug and fresh gas and oil change..👍🏼
I start mine every 6 months; that's when I empty and refill my gas cans. I always drain the carbs on both EU2200's, so it takes about 7 pulls each to start, but they run perfectly. I run them for 30 minutes total; 15 minutes under a 1000 watt load, the other 15 no load, ECO throttle always off. According to American Honda, exercising the generator helps carbon deposits to "free themselves" and be discharged through the exhaust.
Honda 2200 is the best, hands down. All will work for occasional use, but Honda is the workhorse. We use ours for power outages mostly in eco mode for freezers and fridge, lights, tv. You can’t beat that Honda in eco mode, absolutely silent till the compressor kicks on then revs right back down.
Are they built for abuse…. People comment all the time they will run them 12-16 a day at rated load and they keep going for years. Pretty crazy but for the rec user a cheaper model is probably just fine.
@@johnnysweekends we beat the living piss out of a 2000 for the last 10 or so years, running hunting camp for weeks, never changing oil on time. Actually seized it up when our friends kid did the oil change with too much oil, we thought it was done. let it sit for a few months, changed oil and it works like new. The 2200 is just a bigger 2200 without being too big! That’s why I went Honda, including my generator, atv, tiller, had to go Kawasaki for mower as Honda was not an option.
Valuable video. Thank you. I liked your scientific rigour. The generator noise is my number 1 concern. Europeans are facing possible blackouts and I want to have a backup power source, but I also don't want it to be noisy. I wonder if it's possible to build some sort of enclosure that will dampen it a bit more, with an exhaust of course.
Great work! It's important for viewers to know that the decibel scale isn't linear when it comes to perceived volume. 74 decibels is essentially twice as loud as 60, especially if you're at an RV park where people are anal about noise.
It’s true. One thing with Rv parks are like in the video, it doesn’t take much as far as elements, grass , dirt or what ever to help muffle even more sound. Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
I have not been to any RV park, dry camp and off grid only. This is why I added the Honda 2200 added dual fuel along with my other dual fuel portable generators for back up and to use. It's a dual fuel on propane burning generator for me. Propane is far better than any ethanol free gasoline fuel.
Does anybody know why Generac discontinued the IQ2000 generator? I have one and I think it's great. Very quiet. Adequate power for running the essentials during a power outage, fridge, freezer and sump pump. I have less than 300 hours on it so I don't know about long term durability.
For me the most important is to the noise level. I live with a bunch of picky neighbors who call the police and city on you for why noise whether it be dog barking or a family event.
I usually find the sponsors on videos to be useless crap. But that generator bible seems like the exact tool I’ve been looking for but didn’t know was out there. Great video btw, great info to consider.
Idk Toyota cars and trucks pretty hard to beat in the long run. Been the cheapest longest lasting vehicles for I think last 10 years. But ya know Honda is second so ya know
What do you think about Hondas open frame 2800? I wish it had the gx engine but I would think the gc would last some hours, that’s what my push mower has and besides smoking on startup it’s been a good one
Ahh they all puff a little smoke. I use a additive all the time which is petroleum based so always a puff when start up from the oil base. The open frame Honda will still be a good unit. Everyone has really just been into the enclosed frame inverters because they are that much quieter.
Sorry I didn’t have one but I did talk with a Rver who did and his would fall right in the middle of this mix. Didn’t seem like a bad design plus the higher power output.
Hi there, can you tell me what the watts of the hairdryer are? Most are 1600 to 2000 watts. I'm confused why it kept showing 400+ watts on your meter. Thanks!
Hair dryers are 1800 or less so they work on a 15 amp circuit. In this video I had the load set at 25% which is quarter load and where the sound level is measured from the factory. Hence 400 ish watts
Hi Jonny do you think the Honda generator 2200i would be much more quieter than the Wen 56200i or the 56235i. If yes is it that much louder? Also is the Honda 200i the bluetooth versin quieter than the older model? Apologies for all the questions, tank you
The Honda eu2000i and 2200i no matter the model are the same engine and muffler. They are the quietest small generators period that I have seen and heard of. All the others fall around the same 60-62db at low idle.
I can’t seem to get a Honda generator delivered to California. Any idea which would be the next best one that is quiet and will ship here? Also wouldn’t mind having one with dual fuel…
Well you can find the Hondas lightly used on FB market place and clist sometimes if you still want one. Plenty of dual fuel kits for them as well. As far as shipping to ca it seems they are enacting carb laws on generators only but not other small engine machines that may even use the same engine that is not carb compliant. So it’s tough right now for sure. And all the gens need to be so I think some are in transition to like fuel injection or dual fuel or just adding items to make them complaint in CA. The gen max line is really coming out with some great units and even more soon that will be carb legal for CA. What size gen are you looking for or need?
I have 2200 Dual Fuel Honda and a few other small portable generators mostly dual fuel. Both Hondas have bigger engines. Less RPM's equals less noise. Honda 2200 is 121cc 18.3 amps and Honda 2000 is the 98cc around 16 amps. Bigger engines usually burn more fuel. And Honda has the most amps out their except the New Cummins Onan 2500 watt 98cc generator 20 amps. but not sure if the Cummins 2500 is proven for long gevity and durability yet time will tell. I have a Real Cummins 2500 Diesel the best and most proven engine in the business for long gevity and durability. Funny how a Cummins Onan with a basic Chinese engine calls its self a real Cummins!!! Time will tell if it is like a real Diesel 6 Cylinder Cummins!
Big motors only use more fuel if you're comparing the same load. A large motor can be as fuel-efficient or more if you use it at 50-100% of its rated load. I'm talking watt-hours per gallon. If you just want low power stand by time then ya a smaller engine will last longer.
There can be a lot of variables there. Mainly the owner plays a big part. Maintaining is regularly, not over loading it and running it more in the 30-70% range can really make them last to there full potential. A small Honda gen lasts 3000-5000 hours then you normally get 50-75 % from the off brands. Some have had really good luck with the predator 2000 pulling over 2000 hours several times. And if your gen goes down and you can’t fix it then down time is money so at a lot less the off brands do have a place.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for the reply that’s great info. I bought myself the Echo Egi-2300 which I now believe is the same as the ryobi. I really want to buy the newest Honda 3200 watt but don’t know if I can justify the price considering this is for power backup I’ll probably never put that many hours on it.
@jamesbubnick I wouldn’t waist the money. I have it and am like, why?? Why would anyone spend this kind of money on something that has no features , low output and only run on gas when propane would have been nice as well.
@@johnnysweekends I get it...Honda does charge a premium and is it really worth it....I like it for the honda quality, inverter, size, and power output but it's defiantly a premium price. I also have a bad habit of wanting the best tools and wether I need that quality level or not isn't my decision factory ;). Thanks for the replies I appreciate your info.
Although pretty sure it will come out much like the decar products. Like the orange generac or blue Westinghouse 2200 model series. All have 80cc engine that are clone Yamaha and made by same company but sold to many known US brands. Only thing is maybe electronics could be a little better ? But db levels will be much like the orange generac
Tip: to compare pwr outputing capability, a better way is to show output voltage rather than watts, bc ur load might be changing even though ur using the same heat gun. AnywY, nice vid
Inverter generators can still suffer from voltage drop. They dont start at one point and stay through the whole load range. But some have less than others.
I am a little confused by your video. In your test, the Honda at 100% load came in at approx 72.5 db, and you comment that all generators came in at this figure. Nevertheless your leader board places the Honda at 62 db with all the others in the 70's. Please help me understand.
Sorry if I didn’t make it clear. The finals numbers were based on the 1500 watt load test. Which for the Honda 2200 it came in around 62 db because it didn’t have to rev up to full rpm. Verses the other gens were at higher rpm under the same load but running a higher Db. So over all the Honda came in the lowest with the two tests performed. But at max load for the rating of the generator you can see when all are at max rated they are all running about 72-73 db under this test. Even the large ones run almost the same. Hope this helps
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for that. Now I understand. One thing I have noticed about gen reviews on youtube is that it is not just about DB's it is also about the tone of the gen. Some have higher pitched grating tone and some a more deeper, throaty tone. I can't bear those with a high pitch tone. For this reason I have been leaning towards the new Yamaha EF2200ist, as the Honda appears to sound on your video a bit screechy, but then, the Yamaha has higher DB's. Do you have any advice? I am in Canada, and it is nearly impossible to find a dealer who will give you an A : B demo.
Yes tone plays a factor especially in the mid and upper rpms. Like the generac it’s tingy up high. Most are but it is more so. When they are all up at max rpm the tone is pretty close with all except the Honda. Main reason is all the gens run a 80cc engine except Honda which has its gx121cc engine. Which that’s a big difference in power. Over all the Honda has a lower tone all the way through the exhaust note except wot… then it sounds more like the others but still a better tone in my opinion. Hard to beat that Honda 2200….only wish they made a 2500 in that size which is totally doable. Both the Yamaha and Honda are good units as I am wanting to test the new Yamaha soon. Which who knows when it will be released..🤷♂️
I just got the generac, the lower dbs are so marginal that it made no difference in choice. At twice the price its hard to justify a honda when I only want a generator mainly for occasional power outages. I am curious about the engines on the generacs, you mentioned they are all yamaha clones? If so are they reliable? I have read many bad reviews on all the brands except honda.
I have seen plenty complain and have issues with Honda. Even on the Honda web page on FB. The Yamaha clone engine is one of the best and most used out there. Most generators die when they are over loaded for to long and the inverter board fails and no more power comes out. The engines will run a long time but the electrical is normally what fails first. The Hondas really are great over all but owner plays a big part as well.
Honda is the only way to go if you need reliable power. Others come close but longevity dont match. Even the Yamaha and I am a die hard Yamaha fan. Honda for the WIN.
Which generator at how many feet. The testing is done to try to match how the companies tests it. Or else everyone would say that’s not how the company does the test and it’s louder then it should be. If it comes closer it will be louder. And over all the Honda will still be quieter with the Yamaha and champion and I think the AIpower being next.
I'm a new homeowner and we have snow and threats of tornadoes in Eastern CO. Would any of these brands be good for the occasional power outage to run basic things in a house? I would love a honda or yamaha but just can't swing that at the moment. I'm iffy about buying used power equipment.
I looked into it. And may do a video. It’s essentially the same as the echo model. And also running a 80cc Yamaha clone engine. So I assume sound level will be in same range. But it does have nice features. And decent 3 year warranty.
If money was no issue the new Honda. If money was then the cheaper aipower because for the most part they are the same and you don’t need the parallel box for the Aipower just the cable. And it’s a sleaker design so it fits a little better in places. That champion sure is nice for its size and weight though. But again at $399 for the Aipower it’s a good buy. No one seems to c complain about them…🤷♂️ But at the $550 Mark for predator you can bump up to a 2300 watt unit. Maybe a 2500.
it is 2x expensive than other genarators so it should be better & honda is known for quality stuff their genarators last as long other large diesel gensets
@@Idahoprepper71 thats what i said. Typically petrol engines don't last long specially small engine genrators will be half dead by 1000hr. , Diesels can run 4000hrs+ without any major overhaul. Probably a good overhaul at 10000hr.
@@tomzhang8675 depending on it's design , not all diesels will run that long. few cummins , pugeot , vw and tata diesels will run that long .. and even then they will require a major overhaul / rebuild and proper maintains to run those miles.
Hi Jonny, can I ask you something, if you was going to do some busking, would you pay the extra for the quietest invertor generator such as the Honda 2200i, rather than the noisier cheaper invertor generators? Would the Honda 2200i Bluetooth model be the quietest model out of all the Honda models? Or would you just use 12Volt batteries? Just wondered what your views would be on this one. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you, regards
I would maybe look into a small 1000 watt Honda and maybe a power station set up/ batteries. Even add a solar panel. Of course all depends when you are doing this and also how much power you need. Honda will be the quietest no matter what but you would be surprised you can make any of them by making a sound box or just adding boards or a generator tent as well.
I think because it’s a long test and a lot of variables and I have neighbors so unless I do it while on a trip with two units running for 8-10 hrs then it’s not super practical. And most are very close in run times. And some are just stuck on what ever brand and how quiet it is. But if a unit runs 20 mins longer under same conditions that’s a lot of you are running for days or weeks at a time.
It depends on what you mean as there are alot of portable generators and a whole house. The answer is yes and no. Any generator can be hooked to a house but will only provide what that unit is rated for. So a 2000 watt generator will run say a 1500 watt hair dryer and that’s about it. Or it could run a fridge at 200 watts, all lights at 200 watts. Wifi at 75 watts, and more. This applies to all generators. You can only power so many items the generator is rated for. If you wanna run allot of items then get a bigger generator
None of these generators compare to the quality of the Honda. If you need a generator every once in a while, any will do. If you need a generator to work week after week, year after year, Honda is the only choice
We had the predator for the rv and I hate the sound of that machine, very annoying clicky sound, switched to the honda after seeing how quite they are and the sound is way less annoying more a lower rumble sound vs a higher pitch clicking and will drive you insane.
ya what's kind of funny about your test, you are introducing a lot of noise with that heat gun and hair drier, so you aren't getting true loudness of the generator. All of your tests used the same added noise, so it they are all at an even disadvantage, but you are measure two audio sources during your tests and not just the generator itself.
They actually make no difference as the noise is over come by the engine and exhaust noise and are both facing backward. I have also done the same test with other items that make less noise and the test shows no difference. Plus they are all under the same playing field.
It would be nice if fuel was cheap and generators weren't expensive. You know I know the cheapest one on here is not expensive if you bought more than one. Maybe through a lot of people but a lot of people is a drop in the bucket. Why do I say that it would be nice to actually get figures on running parallel versus a bigger generator fuel-wise. But I know that a lot of the smaller generators you're not going to have the same plugs as a bigger generator. Is it better to have 2000 * 2 running parallel is it better to run 4,000 in a bigger generator. Because at the end of the day I know fuel is going to make a big point in all this. I bought two 100 gallon 18-wheeler tanks. So if I had them fully loaded full of fuel two smaller generators may be better than a bigger one as far as lasting longer. It's just like when it hits the fan I'm not trying to give an example towards you but are you going to grab your trailer if you can't get around with the trailer or are you going to grab a tent with a wood burning stove and a small generator and what little small things you need to survive on. with me working in the oil field in the past I know all about them big generators the ones you haul around on a trailer some of them that have a hundred gallon 200 gallon tank on them. Those would be absolutely ridiculous to have because there's no telling how much fuel you would burn in an hour just to run a microwave or any other thing to charge batteries. There's no doubt in my mind there's nothing wrong with solar there's nothing wrong with the solar generator but you cannot go without a generator. Nothing can beat a generator on a cloudy day. There's just so many variables. I know what the best thing is is a person that has hands-on experience. Because I know you you could do the math and figure out how much solar you're going to be drawing on what you use. At the most if I ran something solar that I would probably run 24 hours a day is maybe a deep freeze if I had things Frozen or needed to keep things Frozen. I know these variables will come into existence real soon. But I think them solar generators are probably the best investment than a generator then solar. I know you still need but you don't have to worry so much about how much wattage did you need to make that wattage. If this comment didn't come in so good it's because I'm sitting here talking into my phone. Talking about some of these generators is like talking about a cell phone. You buy a cheap cell phone sometimes you get benefits that you don't get if you buy any expensive cell phone. And then vice versa. But running parallel and getting $3,600 Watts versus a generator that produces 3600 Watts on its own it may be more economical for too small running parallel. Those bigger generators got a bigger fuel tank. What were witnessing right now in society is toppling turn away from God and God will be your enemy. The same outcome when somebody receives the holy Spirit and they turn back into a life of sin. I just figured I'd give you a heads up there. The rug is slowly but surely getting ready to be pulled out from underneath.
2 small 2000w gens are better than 1 4000w gen IF you are planning to run under 2000w loads most of the time. If you plan on doing more than 2000w loads the 4000w becomes more fuel efficient. The plugs won't be any better on a 4000w vs 2 2000w because no 4000w inverter generators have 240v. When you add the parallel kit to the 2 2000w generators, you get a the same 30a 120v twist lock plug that's on the 4000w gens. Imo the best thing when it comes to fuel efficiency is to have a solar generator(aka a large lithium battery with a solar charger) I built my own that has 2 5000wh batteries(10,000wh total) with a 2000w inverter. It can connect up to 600w solar. I used a nice Milwaukee waterproof pack-out case to build my solar generator in. So if I needed to run off grid when SHTF I would use my 10,000wh battery that would be slowly charging with solar but if it got below 15% I would fire up the generator to charge it as well as run my devices while it's charging. That way I'm not running a generator at all times and it will save me fuel because I will be using my generator at close to full load to charge which is where a generator is most efficient(50%-100% is where a generator is most efficient). 10,000wh will last a few days as long as you're not running a air-conditioner or electric heater(which is silly to run electric heat off grid). Charging it will take a good 10hours or so but that's OK because you can use the generator as well to charge and run your camp.
I have two Honda EU2200's, regular and Companion, a Predator 2000 and a Generac 1200. There is no similarity in terms of build quality between them; the Honda's are far superior. I'm a blue collar guy, so I'm always on a budget, but I hate buying junk. I bought the Honda's for emergency home back-up, the Predator to use as a "loaner" (funny, when you own a generator, family expects you to be happy to lend it to them) and the little Generac to power a pitching machine. The conclusion I've come to after using all these is when you buy a cheap generator, you get a cheap generator; fact of life.
I would do the same ..😅👍🏼
Lol I bought 2 EU2200's for home backup. My wife's mother said if I need a generator I'll just use yours... 🤔 So I bought a 3rd generator (eu1000)
😂😂 I would have just bought a Aipower model to lend lol. 👍🏼
Then you came back to reality and realize that even the cheap clones like the predator will last for thousands or hours no problem. These cheap generators are pretty well tested and received by many people who buy them. When you can get a almost identical Yamaha clone for $340 vs a actual Yamaha for $1200+ it makes perfect sense as to what one to buy. You can buy 3 of the clones and still have money in your pocket. Sounds like your cheap gens are running just fine.
@@randybobandy9828 Then you got into a desperate situation where you had to rely on a cheap generator, and it failed on you because it wasn't built to the same quality and couldn't actually be trusted to deliver when you needed it most. There's a purchase price for dependability and reliability, and if you don't pay it... well, you might be happy to gamble, but many people are not.
incredible video. You actually ran the generators and took measurments. Other videos just has a guy standing there and talking to a silent generator, not rigorous like your videos. Thank you so much. It's surprising how much more quiet the newer honda eu2200i was at usable load. Thank you so much for this insight.
Your welcome glad I could help…
And thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 😀👍🏼
Excellent video. I own the GP2200i and a Ryobi 2300 bluetooth .. just went though a 39+ hour continuous outage using the little Generac feeding a 75 foot 10-gauge cord to three 12-gauge cords through a 10-gauge splitter. It powered fridge and separate chest freezer, all electronics, modem-router, chargers, floor fan, house lighting and TV .. it also powered a small 900 watt induction hotplate and a tiny 600 watt microwave. We had big screen movie night with popcorn during the outage .. all done generator style. It was flawless using synthetic oil and just over 3 gallons of fuel for the entire 40 hours.
Awesome sounds like you made it into a good night.
Yea and a couple small gens will power most of what people need. AC totally different story unless you have mini splits.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
I love Honda mowers and generators.
But in terms of how loud they are, I’ve found that among similar ones like you tested there just aren’t many real life implications with a 10-15 db difference.
Even that very nice Honda would be loud enough to disturb other campers at a primitive state park campsite for instance. My Westinghouse 9500 runs 75-80db at light load, for example. And all of these tests WOULD be a light load for it. So just a bit louder but it’s a legit 9500 running watt generator. And the larger Hondas more comparable to my Westinghouse are quieter than the Westinghouse, making (to me) the volume of these small generators even less important.
To me, I have two options:
1. Nice power banks / stations. I have several of these. They have come a very long way over the years and provide a lot more power and ah than folks think!
2. Buy the generator in the size and power you want with the features you want at the price you want. These inverter generators are all relatively quiet compared to their larger counterparts, and very, very loud when compared to a rechargeable/solar power station. :)
I agree power stations have come a long way and are a great alternative to gas generators but even the power stations have limitations unless the station is added on to.
Thanks for the comment ..👍🏼😀
@@johnnysweekends agree. Funny how random things you’d never think of having so much draw will exceed whatever the equivalent to surge wattage is on them compared to fuel generators.
Guess my main point is the technology is so good that most all are going to be similar enough that in real world applications likely not to notice.
But that Honda…..😍
lol the Honda 2200i for me, man light quiet and enough to power a lot of items up.
Wish they made it a 2500 could have easily been.
You are out of your mind if you don't think there is much of a difference between 10-15 dB. That's about twice as loud to the human ear. I guess that doesn't matter if you're already deaf.
Si, ma per quanto riguarda l'autonomia con la centrale elettrica non fai molta strada, per la casa.
This was done well. Thank you. If you ever do repeat, would love to see some other generators to see how they perform (those Honda's are nice but very pricey). For me, I want something for going to the beach, or lake, or camping and plan to build an enclosure. I'm ridiculous. Have a fold out 120" movie screen, a portable projector, and battery powered speakers. Like to setup music videos on the beach or sometimes watch movies in the outdoors. Actual draw on power is minimal. Also, just comes in handy to power stuff wherever one may need it. Thanks again, its helping me be choosy.
Have you thought about a power station??
Something from ECOFLOW or bluetti and more.
No gas, no noise, use solar to keep battery at 100%
It’s a option but the name brand units that are good is going to be about $1000.
Just don’t get sand in it.. lol
Another quality video by Johnnys Weekend! Great job.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀😉
Well done. It would be interesting to empty each generator, and then run it on a cup of gas at a fixed wattage to determine fuel consumption for each if you still have them. Rather than run time based on total fuel tank size, it would give us a better idea of run time using a fixed fuel amount.
Exactly, from what I ha e researched all are using the same size carb just different models except Honda we will just exclude those.
But with all others running a 80cc engine I assume they should be more fuel efficient then the newer Honda at 121cc.
Would be a good test for the Honda and maybe the Generac at 50 % load… 👍🏼👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends That's the interesting question to me since the carb, fuel flow rate and efficiency of the inverters are factors. People usually just read off official run time but that's based on the tank size. Most people's experience is a varying load or fixed load. It would be a good science experiment to run even if there is no difference.
I agree…👍🏼👊🏼
my first inverter generator was a wen, it did not last 4 months in Quartzsite Arizona when it died, took it apart and found the back side of the tube from air intake to carb was not seated and could stick a penny inside it so for 4 months is was sucking all the sand and dirt straight into carb into engine and ruined the cylinder and piston, got champion 2500 its been 3 years and still runs like new
This sounds like it was not a problem with the generator at all but more quality control. I don’t like the smaller Wen units but the wen 3800 and 4000 are good units with excellent reviews. At least from my responses I get and reading I’ve done.
But the champion 2500 is also a excellent choice..👍🏼 DF is even better 😀
Only got 45hrs out of my predator 2k before it broke. Returned it and got the 2200 honda. Honda is a higher quality unit in every aspect compared to the predator other than fuel economy.
Bud has the 2000 predator and ran it for 9 days 24 hours a day only to fuel up & check oil.
He put a NGK plug and 5w30 synthetic since new.
Still has it
@@claddagh1000 yeah my buddy has had his for a year and zero issues. Mine was having major issues with the eco throttle and I'm just glad it made it through my wedding day and I returned it after.
I have seen duds on new Hondas. New out of box has issues. But this can happen to any brand
@@johnnysweekends true with anything 👍My home generators are champion power, have a regular and dual fuel and have had zero issues with those. They both have worked flawlessly for 4 years.
Yea I tend to like champion stuff since they have been around a while. They have a name they are at least trying to keep good.
I have been binge watching all of you generator videos. You do excellent testing! Thanks for all of your work. One question: which 5 gallon gas can do you like best? I searched your channel but didn’t see any gas can comparisons. Thanks.
I use a race fuel jug. Or water container they call them now…😅
I have old race jugs and a newer one or two from VP racing but they are probably all made in the same places lol.
I hate the little red gas can I use lol. That thing is junk!!!!!
I should get rid of it…🤔
Glad you liked the videos and thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
Thanks for ur "feedback" video! I just recommended ur channel to a guy in RV fb group. Hopefully she will come here.
Awesome thank you. I’m in a couple Rv groups plus mine I just started which is
West coast Camping and Rving..👍🏼
Couldn’t stay away lol. Everyone has an addiction lol.
If you have ever been in any type of construction field, equipment gets beat up, destroyed, abused, used till it burns up to all hell and more because your workers could give the slightest crap about your stuff.
I see you have a special place in your heart for generators, and it’s cool, I like them myself but it’s nothing more then a piece of equipment to do a job. And I love to see how far things can go. That’s what people have done with engines for ever. We test to the edge and see what they can do. We are either impressed or disappointed in the result.
Back when I raced different types of items what do you think we do as racers, test and tune to the edge and back of to where it will live.
I keep thinking how much abuse can I throw at this Honda till it melts down….
As far as the info you have given me, don’t think I get it or don’t know some of it.
Of course you wanna bigger unit if you are going to run higher loads. But all the research I have done people always buy the least.
People buy what the budget can handle. I’m simple showing what a product does. And I will either be impressed or disappointed depending on the price of what the unit costs. I could care less about the abuse because for one thing I have found with my self and most things, if I break it, I’ll fix.
Cheers
Yup just like anywhere we have poor people. And also the richest in the world…
Actually most of the richest are from here. Not many from there I see.
Oh btw I bet I could pull the trailer with a Toyota Hilux all over…😅😅
I finally got my Honda 2200i, they cost more but its a forever purchase. Friends Honda sits for a year at a time then fires right up.
Yea common story. Sits for ever and fires right up.
Told a friend a couple weeks ago to buy this Honda 2000 for sale. Some older lady was clearing stuff out. She couldn’t remember last time it was ran. She said maybe 3 to 5 years but it’s been a while.
My budy said it took 5 pulls but fired up puffed a pinch of blue smoke and in about 10 secs ran smooth…😅 lol I could believe it. For the price I said just buy a new carb as long as you can pull it and has compression.
All he did was a plug and fresh gas and oil change..👍🏼
I start mine every 6 months; that's when I empty and refill my gas cans. I always drain the carbs on both EU2200's, so it takes about 7 pulls each to start, but they run perfectly. I run them for 30 minutes total; 15 minutes under a 1000 watt load, the other 15 no load, ECO throttle always off. According to American Honda, exercising the generator helps carbon deposits to "free themselves" and be discharged through the exhaust.
Honda 2200 is the best, hands down. All will work for occasional use, but Honda is the workhorse. We use ours for power outages mostly in eco mode for freezers and fridge, lights, tv. You can’t beat that Honda in eco mode, absolutely silent till the compressor kicks on then revs right back down.
Are they built for abuse…. People comment all the time they will run them 12-16 a day at rated load and they keep going for years.
Pretty crazy but for the rec user a cheaper model is probably just fine.
@@johnnysweekends we beat the living piss out of a 2000 for the last 10 or so years, running hunting camp for weeks, never changing oil on time. Actually seized it up when our friends kid did the oil change with too much oil, we thought it was done. let it sit for a few months, changed oil and it works like new. The 2200 is just a bigger 2200 without being too big! That’s why I went Honda, including my generator, atv, tiller, had to go Kawasaki for mower as Honda was not an option.
I actually hear this a lot. People abuse the little Honda like crazy. Neglect them, forget maintenance and they just keep running.
@@johnnysweekends not mine lol, she’s my baby. But should be a lifetime
Machine with the uses I have no doubt,
I hear ya I take care of my stuff. I’m a maintenance freak lol.
But for videos….. ya never know death may come…😅
Valuable video. Thank you. I liked your scientific rigour. The generator noise is my number 1 concern. Europeans are facing possible blackouts and I want to have a backup power source, but I also don't want it to be noisy. I wonder if it's possible to build some sort of enclosure that will dampen it a bit more, with an exhaust of course.
There are a lot of generator boxes you can buy and build or even a generator tent helps to muffle the noise even more.
Excellent video sir! Glad I purchased my Honda EU2200i back in 2018. Solid investment for sure!
They are great gens. Pricey for sure but for a reason.
You gained a follower because of your thoroughness and precision. Thank you!
Thank you so much…👍🏼😀
Appreciate the feed back and thanks for watching 👊🏼
Thanks for all your work, really helped me make an informed purchase.
Thanks for putting all this work ...solid info!!
Thank you so much, appreciate it 👍🏼😀
Great work!
It's important for viewers to know that the decibel scale isn't linear when it comes to perceived volume. 74 decibels is essentially twice as loud as 60, especially if you're at an RV park where people are anal about noise.
It’s true. One thing with Rv parks are like in the video, it doesn’t take much as far as elements, grass , dirt or what ever to help muffle even more sound.
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
I have not been to any RV park, dry camp and off grid only. This is why I added the Honda 2200 added dual fuel along with my other dual fuel portable generators for back up and to use. It's a dual fuel on propane burning generator for me. Propane is far better than any ethanol free gasoline fuel.
Yup dual fuel for the win…👍🏼😀
I have 2 of the Yamaha & after 7 years no issues with either
Does anybody know why Generac discontinued the IQ2000 generator? I have one and I think it's great. Very quiet. Adequate power for running the essentials during a power outage, fridge, freezer and sump pump. I have less than 300 hours on it so I don't know about long term durability.
What do you think..? The new Honda really is great and wish they had a 2500 model in this size. Thanks for checking out the video…👍🏼👍🏼😀
Yamaha has always served us well
I like them. On a couple tests I did expect a little more but if used like you should normally use it, it will be fine
For me the most important is to the noise level. I live with a bunch of picky neighbors who call the police and city on you for why noise whether it be dog barking or a family event.
Hard to beat Hondas eu2200 it’s a beast and it’s quiet.
Just kinda spendy and no features.
Great video thank you just what I was looking for. 🙂
Thanks for the video. Honda EU2200i is the one.
Do you know if you can pair up the predator 2000 and the wen?
Wen 2000 and predator 2000 should work. 👍🏼
I usually find the sponsors on videos to be useless crap. But that generator bible seems like the exact tool I’ve been looking for but didn’t know was out there. Great video btw, great info to consider.
Thank you!! Yes it’s nice to have a sponsor that’s related to exactly what you are reviewing.
Glad I could help and thanks for watching 😀👍🏼
Great work, thanks - much appreciated.
Very nice generators, thanks Honda always the best and car 🚗 and engine outboard
Idk Toyota cars and trucks pretty hard to beat in the long run. Been the cheapest longest lasting vehicles for I think last 10 years.
But ya know Honda is second so ya know
What do you think about Hondas open frame 2800? I wish it had the gx engine but I would think the gc would last some hours, that’s what my push mower has and besides smoking on startup it’s been a good one
Ahh they all puff a little smoke. I use a additive all the time which is petroleum based so always a puff when start up from the oil base.
The open frame Honda will still be a good unit. Everyone has really just been into the enclosed frame inverters because they are that much quieter.
Great comparison video JB
Thank you….👍🏼😁
the Gen bible is a nice tool to have thanks Johnny
Yes they are. Definitely helps people narrow down what they may be looking for…👍🏼
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
Thanks for the vid, is there any chance you could include the Wen generator? thanks
Which one. Either way it will land right about where the predator 2000 is. Same set up
I was hoping that you would have had a Craftsman in the decible test.
Sorry I didn’t have one but I did talk with a Rver who did and his would fall right in the middle of this mix. Didn’t seem like a bad design plus the higher power output.
Hi there, can you tell me what the watts of the hairdryer are? Most are 1600 to 2000 watts. I'm confused why it kept showing 400+ watts on your meter. Thanks!
Hair dryers are 1800 or less so they work on a 15 amp circuit.
In this video I had the load set at 25% which is quarter load and where the sound level is measured from the factory.
Hence 400 ish watts
Hi Jonny do you think the Honda generator 2200i would be much more quieter than the Wen 56200i or the 56235i. If yes is it that much louder?
Also is the Honda 200i the bluetooth versin quieter than the older model? Apologies for all the questions, tank you
The Honda eu2000i and 2200i no matter the model are the same engine and muffler. They are the quietest small generators period that I have seen and heard of. All the others fall around the same 60-62db at low idle.
I can’t seem to get a Honda generator delivered to California. Any idea which would be the next best one that is quiet and will ship here? Also wouldn’t mind having one with dual fuel…
Well you can find the Hondas lightly used on FB market place and clist sometimes if you still want one. Plenty of dual fuel kits for them as well.
As far as shipping to ca it seems they are enacting carb laws on generators only but not other small engine machines that may even use the same engine that is not carb compliant. So it’s tough right now for sure. And all the gens need to be so I think some are in transition to like fuel injection or dual fuel or just adding items to make them complaint in CA.
The gen max line is really coming out with some great units and even more soon that will be carb legal for CA.
What size gen are you looking for or need?
Gtfo out of commiefornia.
I have 2200 Dual Fuel Honda and a few other small portable generators mostly dual fuel. Both Hondas have bigger engines. Less RPM's equals less noise. Honda 2200 is 121cc 18.3 amps and Honda 2000 is the 98cc around 16 amps. Bigger engines usually burn more fuel. And Honda has the most amps out their except the New Cummins Onan 2500 watt 98cc generator 20 amps. but not sure if the Cummins 2500 is proven for long gevity and durability yet time will tell. I have a Real Cummins 2500 Diesel the best and most proven engine in the business for long gevity and durability. Funny how a Cummins Onan with a basic Chinese engine calls its self a real Cummins!!! Time will tell if it is like a real Diesel 6 Cylinder Cummins!
Big motors only use more fuel if you're comparing the same load. A large motor can be as fuel-efficient or more if you use it at 50-100% of its rated load. I'm talking watt-hours per gallon. If you just want low power stand by time then ya a smaller engine will last longer.
Nothing can’t beat honda it’s not matter how hard they try 😄
Well when you charge over 3x as much I sure would hope so.
@@randybobandy9828 remember you get what you paid for
The predator keeps up no problem, especially with the price. Now for motorcycle that’s a different story! I love a Honda.
@@oldrango883 understand that but one thing is keeping up and another thing is how long it will last
I have a lot of good reports on the predator 2000 👍🏼
Can we compare these compact generators with big bulky 9000 w generators ? is it same in power ?
2000 watts to 2500 watts is not the same as a 9000 watt unit 🤷🏼♂️
Your post doesn't even make any sense
Which one is more fuel efficient tho🤔
Yamaha, A-Ipower or the Predator more than likely. Any of the 80cc models.
How long as in hour wise should an inverter generator (non-Honda) last?
There can be a lot of variables there.
Mainly the owner plays a big part.
Maintaining is regularly, not over loading it and running it more in the 30-70% range can really make them last to there full potential.
A small Honda gen lasts 3000-5000 hours then you normally get 50-75 % from the off brands.
Some have had really good luck with the predator 2000 pulling over 2000 hours several times.
And if your gen goes down and you can’t fix it then down time is money so at a lot less the off brands do have a place.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for the reply that’s great info. I bought myself the Echo Egi-2300 which I now believe is the same as the ryobi. I really want to buy the newest Honda 3200 watt but don’t know if I can justify the price considering this is for power backup I’ll probably never put that many hours on it.
@jamesbubnick I wouldn’t waist the money. I have it and am like, why?? Why would anyone spend this kind of money on something that has no features , low output and only run on gas when propane would have been nice as well.
@@johnnysweekends I get it...Honda does charge a premium and is it really worth it....I like it for the honda quality, inverter, size, and power output but it's defiantly a premium price. I also have a bad habit of wanting the best tools and wether I need that quality level or not isn't my decision factory ;). Thanks for the replies I appreciate your info.
@jamesbubnick yea just wish they made them factory dual fuel…. Come on Honda … hello!!! Lol
@gregchapman6897
says....
"The decibel scale is logarithmic. Every three decibel increase is a doubling of the sound intensity."
CAN YOU TRY COMPARING THE HONDA TO THE ENERGIZER EZ V SERIES??? Did you already go this test?
I have not…but can look into it..👍🏼
Although pretty sure it will come out much like the decar products.
Like the orange generac or blue Westinghouse 2200 model series.
All have 80cc engine that are clone Yamaha and made by same company but sold to many known US brands.
Only thing is maybe electronics could be a little better ? But db levels will be much like the orange generac
Thank you
What are your thoughts regarding this generac comparison?
czcams.com/video/Ejg1RBZ3sVE/video.html
the quietest one is the one that breaks first... 🤔
Lol..😅
Would have liked to see the craftsman
Sorry didn’t have it at the time but similar to the generac..Not the box model though.
Tip: to compare pwr outputing capability, a better way is to show output voltage rather than watts, bc ur load might be changing even though ur using the same heat gun. AnywY, nice vid
Well looking at output voltage isn't a power output.
Voltage is always the same....that's the whole point of an inverter generator.
Inverter generators can still suffer from voltage drop. They dont start at one point and stay through the whole load range. But some have less than others.
Thanks bro for info
You are welcome..👍🏼😀
I am a little confused by your video. In your test, the Honda at 100% load came in at approx 72.5 db, and you comment that all generators came in at this figure. Nevertheless your leader board places the Honda at 62 db with all the others in the 70's. Please help me understand.
Sorry if I didn’t make it clear. The finals numbers were based on the 1500 watt load test. Which for the Honda 2200 it came in around 62 db because it didn’t have to rev up to full rpm. Verses the other gens were at higher rpm under the same load but running a higher Db.
So over all the Honda came in the lowest with the two tests performed.
But at max load for the rating of the generator you can see when all are at max rated they are all running about 72-73 db under this test. Even the large ones run almost the same.
Hope this helps
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for that. Now I understand. One thing I have noticed about gen reviews on youtube is that it is not just about DB's it is also about the tone of the gen. Some have higher pitched grating tone and some a more deeper, throaty tone. I can't bear those with a high pitch tone. For this reason I have been leaning towards the new Yamaha EF2200ist, as the Honda appears to sound on your video a bit screechy, but then, the Yamaha has higher DB's. Do you have any advice? I am in Canada, and it is nearly impossible to find a dealer who will give you an A : B demo.
Yes tone plays a factor especially in the mid and upper rpms. Like the generac it’s tingy up high. Most are but it is more so.
When they are all up at max rpm the tone is pretty close with all except the Honda. Main reason is all the gens run a 80cc engine except Honda which has its gx121cc engine. Which that’s a big difference in power.
Over all the Honda has a lower tone all the way through the exhaust note except wot… then it sounds more like the others but still a better tone in my opinion.
Hard to beat that Honda 2200….only wish they made a 2500 in that size which is totally doable.
Both the Yamaha and Honda are good units as I am wanting to test the new Yamaha soon. Which who knows when it will be released..🤷♂️
I didn't see the WEN
They make a model exactly the same as the black champion and red predator. Same gen different plastic….👍🏼
I just got the generac, the lower dbs are so marginal that it made no difference in choice. At twice the price its hard to justify a honda when I only want a generator mainly for occasional power outages. I am curious about the engines on the generacs, you mentioned they are all yamaha clones? If so are they reliable? I have read many bad reviews on all the brands except honda.
I have seen plenty complain and have issues with Honda. Even on the Honda web page on FB. The Yamaha clone engine is one of the best and most used out there. Most generators die when they are over loaded for to long and the inverter board fails and no more power comes out. The engines will run a long time but the electrical is normally what fails first.
The Hondas really are great over all but owner plays a big part as well.
Congratulations, what a sweet ride.
Thank you 😀👍🏼
Thanks god bless
🙌🏼😀👍🏼
Honda is the only way to go if you need reliable power. Others come close but longevity dont match. Even the Yamaha and I am a die hard Yamaha fan. Honda for the WIN.
23 feet is too far away. I would like to know how loud it is closer.
Which generator at how many feet.
The testing is done to try to match how the companies tests it. Or else everyone would say that’s not how the company does the test and it’s louder then it should be.
If it comes closer it will be louder. And over all the Honda will still be quieter with the Yamaha and champion and I think the AIpower being next.
Thats how companies test the ratings. When you look on the box and it says "58db" that means it was tested at 23feet away to get that number.
I'm a new homeowner and we have snow and threats of tornadoes in Eastern CO. Would any of these brands be good for the occasional power outage to run basic things in a house? I would love a honda or yamaha but just can't swing that at the moment. I'm iffy about buying used power equipment.
It depends on your budget and how big of a unit you need.
why are they not quiet like propane hilo engines?
Because these are gas engines and they are much louder with a small exhaust.
They are quite what are you talking about?
If they all have the same motor what’s make them different? Besides being the quietest!
Electrical components quality and then customer service and warranty
Not the same motor, they all are clones of the Honda motor but the quality of Honda is unmatched.
No Ryobi? Their new one has Bluetooth and a lithium ion rechargeable battery and their application has a ton of features.
I looked into it. And may do a video. It’s essentially the same as the echo model.
And also running a 80cc Yamaha clone engine. So I assume sound level will be in same range. But it does have nice features.
And decent 3 year warranty.
@@johnnysweekends I forgot about the Echo brand even though I run an Echo 9010T and PAS2620 lol
Lol. Only thing with echo I think you get to pay and extra couple hundred for the name… lol
@@johnnysweekends No wonder I forgot 🤣🖐💥🇺🇲 Which one would you buy out of the bunch?
If money was no issue the new Honda. If money was then the cheaper aipower because for the most part they are the same and you don’t need the parallel box for the Aipower just the cable. And it’s a sleaker design so it fits a little better in places.
That champion sure is nice for its size and weight though.
But again at $399 for the Aipower it’s a good buy. No one seems to c complain about them…🤷♂️
But at the $550 Mark for predator you can bump up to a 2300 watt unit. Maybe a 2500.
it is 2x expensive than other genarators so it should be better & honda is known for quality stuff their genarators last as long other large diesel gensets
I have a Honda eu2000 with over 7000 hours and still going strong
@@Idahoprepper71 thats what i said. Typically petrol engines don't last long specially small engine genrators will be half dead by 1000hr. , Diesels can run 4000hrs+ without any major overhaul. Probably a good overhaul at 10000hr.
Wow that’s a lot !!!
Awesome 😎
Kuntal Ghosh a dissel engine can run 1~10 millon miles!
@@tomzhang8675 depending on it's design , not all diesels will run that long. few cummins , pugeot , vw and tata diesels will run that long .. and even then they will require a major overhaul / rebuild and proper maintains to run those miles.
Would like to see Honda against the Wen! cheers
Honda will be quieter and the wen will be like the predator 2000
@@johnnysweekends Thanks for the reply!
Hi Jonny, can I ask you something, if you was going to do some busking, would you pay the extra for the quietest invertor generator such as the Honda 2200i, rather than the noisier cheaper invertor generators? Would the Honda 2200i Bluetooth model be the quietest model out of all the Honda models? Or would you just use 12Volt batteries? Just wondered what your views would be on this one. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you, regards
I would maybe look into a small 1000 watt Honda and maybe a power station set up/ batteries. Even add a solar panel.
Of course all depends when you are doing this and also how much power you need.
Honda will be the quietest no matter what but you would be surprised you can make any of them by making a sound box or just adding boards or a generator tent as well.
Why don’t you ever compare the run times? People who are in van life or full time rvers would love to know.
I think because it’s a long test and a lot of variables and I have neighbors so unless I do it while on a trip with two units running for 8-10 hrs then it’s not super practical. And most are very close in run times.
And some are just stuck on what ever brand and how quiet it is.
But if a unit runs 20 mins longer under same conditions that’s a lot of you are running for days or weeks at a time.
Who uses a generator with van life? Most use solar and a battery.
@@randybobandy9828 A multitude of people
@@briizcustoms9543 really? Like who
Can a portable generator power a whole house?
It depends on what you mean as there are alot of portable generators and a whole house. The answer is yes and no.
Any generator can be hooked to a house but will only provide what that unit is rated for. So a 2000 watt generator will run say a 1500 watt hair dryer and that’s about it.
Or it could run a fridge at 200 watts, all lights at 200 watts. Wifi at 75 watts, and more.
This applies to all generators. You can only power so many items the generator is rated for. If you wanna run allot of items then get a bigger generator
Not a fair comparison with the Honda comparing it to newer units you should be using the 2200 series from Honda
??? Did you watch the video…???
He was using the 2200 Honda.
@@tomtee4442 Even better he used the classic EU2000 too.
Skip to the 10:20 mark to find out the winner.
Yamaha is the best, your behind reality
Yamaha is great but has its own flaw on the 2000 watt unit. And of course not as quiet as Yamaha but overall still a great unit.
if you can start it when you need it!!! Never had that problem with Honda. Good luck getting your Yamaha repaired!!! No-one will work on it!!!
None of these generators compare to the quality of the Honda. If you need a generator every once in a while, any will do. If you need a generator to work week after week, year after year, Honda is the only choice
Hey, do you have a business email? We would love to have our generator tested on your channel 😊
It’s in my bio in information…
And here..- johnny512052@gmail.com
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Thx so much. I will use my company email to contact you 😊
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All test subjects included Used honda LOL
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Pretty sure the predator is a honda clone
The predator uses a Rato clone mz-80 engine. Basically Yamaha clone engine. Most people unit cloned. But can’t confirm the electronic parts.
We had the predator for the rv and I hate the sound of that machine, very annoying clicky sound, switched to the honda after seeing how quite they are and the sound is way less annoying more a lower rumble sound vs a higher pitch clicking and will drive you insane.
This predator does the same. Just kinda has a rattle sound from the case it seems. Like something vibrating against it
You had the inverter predator generator? Or a regular one?
ya what's kind of funny about your test, you are introducing a lot of noise with that heat gun and hair drier, so you aren't getting true loudness of the generator. All of your tests used the same added noise, so it they are all at an even disadvantage, but you are measure two audio sources during your tests and not just the generator itself.
They actually make no difference as the noise is over come by the engine and exhaust noise and are both facing backward. I have also done the same test with other items that make less noise and the test shows no difference. Plus they are all under the same playing field.
Nope it wouldn't matter.
It would be nice if fuel was cheap and generators weren't expensive. You know I know the cheapest one on here is not expensive if you bought more than one. Maybe through a lot of people but a lot of people is a drop in the bucket. Why do I say that it would be nice to actually get figures on running parallel versus a bigger generator fuel-wise. But I know that a lot of the smaller generators you're not going to have the same plugs as a bigger generator. Is it better to have 2000 * 2 running parallel is it better to run 4,000 in a bigger generator. Because at the end of the day I know fuel is going to make a big point in all this. I bought two 100 gallon 18-wheeler tanks. So if I had them fully loaded full of fuel two smaller generators may be better than a bigger one as far as lasting longer. It's just like when it hits the fan I'm not trying to give an example towards you but are you going to grab your trailer if you can't get around with the trailer or are you going to grab a tent with a wood burning stove and a small generator and what little small things you need to survive on. with me working in the oil field in the past I know all about them big generators the ones you haul around on a trailer some of them that have a hundred gallon 200 gallon tank on them. Those would be absolutely ridiculous to have because there's no telling how much fuel you would burn in an hour just to run a microwave or any other thing to charge batteries. There's no doubt in my mind there's nothing wrong with solar there's nothing wrong with the solar generator but you cannot go without a generator. Nothing can beat a generator on a cloudy day. There's just so many variables. I know what the best thing is is a person that has hands-on experience. Because I know you you could do the math and figure out how much solar you're going to be drawing on what you use. At the most if I ran something solar that I would probably run 24 hours a day is maybe a deep freeze if I had things Frozen or needed to keep things Frozen. I know these variables will come into existence real soon. But I think them solar generators are probably the best investment than a generator then solar. I know you still need but you don't have to worry so much about how much wattage did you need to make that wattage. If this comment didn't come in so good it's because I'm sitting here talking into my phone. Talking about some of these generators is like talking about a cell phone. You buy a cheap cell phone sometimes you get benefits that you don't get if you buy any expensive cell phone. And then vice versa. But running parallel and getting $3,600 Watts versus a generator that produces 3600 Watts on its own it may be more economical for too small running parallel. Those bigger generators got a bigger fuel tank. What were witnessing right now in society is toppling turn away from God and God will be your enemy. The same outcome when somebody receives the holy Spirit and they turn back into a life of sin. I just figured I'd give you a heads up there. The rug is slowly but surely getting ready to be pulled out from underneath.
2 small 2000w gens are better than 1 4000w gen IF you are planning to run under 2000w loads most of the time. If you plan on doing more than 2000w loads the 4000w becomes more fuel efficient. The plugs won't be any better on a 4000w vs 2 2000w because no 4000w inverter generators have 240v. When you add the parallel kit to the 2 2000w generators, you get a the same 30a 120v twist lock plug that's on the 4000w gens. Imo the best thing when it comes to fuel efficiency is to have a solar generator(aka a large lithium battery with a solar charger) I built my own that has 2 5000wh batteries(10,000wh total) with a 2000w inverter. It can connect up to 600w solar. I used a nice Milwaukee waterproof pack-out case to build my solar generator in. So if I needed to run off grid when SHTF I would use my 10,000wh battery that would be slowly charging with solar but if it got below 15% I would fire up the generator to charge it as well as run my devices while it's charging. That way I'm not running a generator at all times and it will save me fuel because I will be using my generator at close to full load to charge which is where a generator is most efficient(50%-100% is where a generator is most efficient). 10,000wh will last a few days as long as you're not running a air-conditioner or electric heater(which is silly to run electric heat off grid). Charging it will take a good 10hours or so but that's OK because you can use the generator as well to charge and run your camp.
Only a dweeb uses 'this guy' when referring to an inanimate object.
After viewing the video, that's the most insightful comment you could muster?
Lmao are you 12 years old? 🤣 you're watching a video about generators and you called someone else a "dweeb"? Self awareness is something you lack.