you'd have to imagine, back when this was made, people in general had smaller hands because they didn't have as much food, so most people would just be smaller stature in general. so smaller hands is no big shock lol.
@@Cheesepuff8The Lindy is well over 6ft himself he's hardly representative of a typical Indian. Its likely, even in tall Indians that their hands are slim too.
If they're made to size why out of the hundreds of antique tulwars I have seen not one fits my hand. I may be a tall guy at 195cm but plenty of Indians I have met equal me in size. Hell a few surpassed me. So there are guys in India my size. So by that logic there should be an original tulwar that fits my hand. And yet the search goes on. And has gone on for decades at this point.
@@clothar23 well to be fair the average male height in india TODAY is approximately is 5'6, and seems to be in decline. Given that the Tulwar we know has been produced since the 1500s I'm willing to bet that people were MUCH smaller in India throughout history, especially when you consider how far nutrition and food availability have come and how much that can impact a population's size. I don't know how big you are, but by the sounds of it the likelihood of someone your size both existing back then and also commissioning a tulwar to be made in a size that fits your hand is pretty low.
@@casbot71 I fail to see why not. The Hindu faith doesn't ban meat entirely. And while the Sikh faith does they're a minority in India. Not to mention even a traditional Sikh diet with its vegan restrictions has just as much protein and calories as anything the modern world would possess. And being a trade hub even back in antiquity would mean access to foods from the world would be a thing. Let us not also forget in traditional Indian society a Warrior was part of a privileged caste . Beaten only by nobility and the priesthood. So they would have eaten better than most. Not to mention trained as rigorously as any modern soldier. And their parents would have as well. That's a recipe for a tall and well built person.
hey man, just want to let you know that in the Gatka form of Tulwar combat, we utilize the small hilts/handles for control. instead of having to grip a large handle tightly for extended periods of time, we hold it with a slightly looser grip which allows us for more range of motion. most european sword styles depend on wrist movement, but the tulwar depends more on the shoulder joint, allowing us to grip a blade for longer with less fatigue.
also in the “alternate grip” that you showed, the index and thumb fingers remain extended inside the handle, try that out for feel! we basically push on the inside of the entire grip to hold the sword.
The way I have heard a Tulwar grip work is not to roll your finger over the guard, but have the guard rest on your thumb and your pointer finger for leverage, but the disc pommel needs to be as tight against the bottom of your hand as possible. It ruins a lot of wrist movement that way, but the Tulwar is not meant to cut using the wrist instead of the shoulder is the main driver of that sword style.
Notably used by Dick Sharpe to save Sir Arthur Wellesley at the battle of Assaye, an act that earned him a commission from the ranks and a swanky telescope.
There is a particular way to hold talwar most of kshtriya were of quite big stature you should ask asanta orwatch video of gurudev nidar singh in which he shows correct way
@@BarlasofIndus you are saying right mughal sword have medium size discs to its easy than some talwar but still you have to use whole body i personally have tested both methods of handling the other way it much better you can easy change direction midway
Bro literally acquired a Tulwar the same week as me and explained my biggest complaint about it. I will say that the finger out feels incredibly intuitive, but would obviously be risky in combat
Not really. By how you use 'em you have a lot more important problems then a risk of your finger. It is virtually impossible to get hit down at the guard, unless you use a static guard and intentionally present the grip to block a strike.
I actually have a tulwar at home. Don't know if it is an original. But I agree with everything you say, the handle is just painful to hold. Also as you said, putting your finger over can be done, put it really hurts and doesn't provide as much control as you want
@@StuBoIsEpic not really, but I did inherite it from the uncle of my mother. I think he got it from someone he knew, because we have no idian or Indonesian family.
"Look out, that's not a tulwar, it's an odachi!" "What's the difference?" "Well a tulwar is of Indian descent while an odachi is Japanese. While both are primarily slashing weapons the tulwar was favoured by cavalrymen as opposed to an odachi which was mainly used for dick-measuring!"
Most blades are prone to rust due to using high carbon steel. This is why swords and blades are oiled to create a barrier to prevent oxidation or any oils from your skin corroding the steel.
While Lloyd is big even by European standards the Indians aren't exactly a short race. Which alongside the facial hair makes them atypical of the rest of Asia. So it stands to reason something is up with most tulwars.
Awesome video! I love how you show off a lot of these underrated weapons from other cultures! Indian weapons especially have some really cool designs like the Urumi, Chakram, Bagh Nakh, and my personal favorite, the ancient Maduvu/Madu.
I heard that German blades were widely common. Not exactly because of good quality (people say they were sometimes a bit better or on equal level) but because Germany has somewhat perfected the process of sword smithing to a degree that they were able forge many blades in a short period of time. Therefore many bought blades from them because there were many and they were not too expensive.
Yes, cost was definitely a factor. German blades of high quality were produced on an industrial scale in the 19th century. Though there were Indian blades of higher quality, they were more expensive, and not as quickly produced. High status people could afford an Indian Wootz blade for their tulwar, but they would use the affordable steel for the lower ranks of their regiments.
For over a thousand years, most armies in what is now India and Pakistan have had a lot of light cavalry. This remained true under the British with divisions having a cavalry brigade.
tulwar (pronounced thal-waar) just means sword in hindi, urdu, and related languages. The word doesn't denote any specific style or type of sword. Similar to the word katana in Japanese.
I Disagree! native urdu speaker here and whilst yes talwaar is the generalisation we use in modern urdu/ hindi for sword , that's just because of how ubiquitous it has become, in my opinion talwaar is a type of sword, and there's other words to refer to other types of swords too, like the khanda, shamsheer and the firangi! Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
No proposition Euclid wrote No formulae the text-books know, Will turn the bullet from your coat, Or ward the tulwar's downward blow. Strike hard who cares - shoot straight who can The odds are on the cheaper man. -Kipling, "Arithmetic on the Frontier"
Fellow indian here, That one is actually more of a show piece sword of kings Its not for the fighting thats why the handle is that small. Yes we have one in the house. And its used to cut a small/tiny branch of a tree in in desh-hera. To mark the beginning that festival in that town and allow the leaves of that tree to be taken.
@lindybeige The handle size of 1-handed swords may be a good video topic. In the Met Armory, both European and Turkish swords seemed to have that very small handle. It seems especially odd considering they would be wearing gloves. It would seem that either the little finger wraps around the pommel, or that the thumb braces against the cross guard.
They never gripped the talwar tight. It just fit the palm whether open or closed. Shoulder roll movements were engaged to swing and parry in diagonal and criss cross directions. Unsure how it would perform against medieval knights , but were effective during pre colonial periods of sabres and muskets.
I love that even though I didn't have my headset on to listen just yet, I could immediately read Lindys lips in perfect Lindy inflections as he said "This is a tulwar!"
@@d.esanchez3351 Sica if you want a shield with that curvature. Or you can stick with the falx if you're aiming for the eyes of the guy behind the guy across from you.
That handle is small abd have a round disc at the end because Talwar was used a one hand weapon and it is heavier than european sabets so without these 2 things at the back used to save person from wrist dislocation
I own an antique tulwar .. and yes the grips are quite tight on those ones. Over the time i observed the traditional fighting style where they carry a Dhaal (small sheild) to parry. Perhaps the use of tight grips on these is they use the maneuvers of turning their wrists alot by getting closer to their encountering fighter. You can see some videos on that if you search. The style is indeed interesting.
@@Yomabohich also makes sense for cavalry since you could let the sword hang until in contact with a foot soldier, then swing upwards to cut them. That way it is harder to miss them, as opposed to swinging downwards and timing the strike.
The thumb over the back guard. The knuckle guard looks like it has a provisional face for the fire and middle fingers to “ride up” the guard. Just a guess, give’r a go.
Tulwar gives me "cavalryman sword" vibes. The way you swing it, the way warfare was conducted in the north west part of South Asia, and the way the grip is constructed just makes it seem like you swing it from the top of a beast of war.
Yes, you hold it differently: you keep your arms bent, and move it mostly with your upper arms and shoulder. The wrist is supposed to be stiff when using this--that's what the disk pommel is for.
Father Noko was using a saber in actual war. Finnish cavalry inherited weapons from Russian hussars in 1918. So in 1939 they had swords and spurs, but horses were soon replaced with bicycles and all sabers were mystically lost.
Okay 😅 you do know talwars were actually customised according to each individual n it might be possible that this talwar was made for a very young warrior cause before Independence of India learning sword fighting n weapon training was actually part of the Curriculum of Indian Gurukuls ( schools)
the talwar is not the sabre of the Mughals, its the sabre or slashing weapon of the Rajputs of Indian origin. The Mogouls used a bit different variant of the sabre a bit smaller one and curved at the top edge & not a uniform curve.
People commenting about Indian hand sizes actually he is not holding in correctly indian warriors don't hold it like that we don't hold it tightly we hold it in a way that it stays in there so that we can fight for longer period of time without feeling pain
I could see how it's useful for slapping around a lot of unarmored opponents maybe. Or maybe the weight of the blade could really impact armor on horseback.
Not european blade but some of our sword used europen imported material at that time. Indian talwar design is curved while european used straight blades.
You are holding it wrong. It's not because of small hands of India. Talwar is used by moving the shoulder whereas the Europeans are mostly using wrist only .. Indians believe in using the whole body movements rather than just wrist. To prohibit the talwar holder from using hand they make handle small, to help them train body movement especially shoulders. Also it's not mugals that invented it. Just like Britisher they used it too when they came in as invaders. Talwar have been there for a long time In indian history.
A talwar guard is supposed to be perfectly snug. So that the weapon cant slide in your hand.... as a cavalry saber you can imagine the torque a sliding hild would put on your arm and wrist during combat... plus with the forms being designed for using the entire arm and a licked wrist to weild the blade it needs to aid that style.
That is a ceremonial tulwar Combat tulwars, at least in Nepal, do not have the weird pommel, but a handguard more in the style of a hand and a half sword with a US cavalry saber style guard, (or no guard at all) and a heavy front blade with a full tang and a very heavy blade at almost a third of an inch thick at the back end If you're interested I can show a pic of one used in combat
Even considering the martial classes had a better diet than those who were exclusively vegetarian, their hands were probably quite small on average compared to Euro hands. I know some women who marry Indian men and move to India have noted that lots of bangles are too small to fit over their wrists.
Regarding the grip, my understanding is that it holds your hand instead of your hand holding it. The idea is not to use a firm hammer grip so much as you relax and open some of your grip so that your fingers push into the guard as opposed to squeezing the handle. Your middle and ring finger grip the handle but the other fingers are held more loosely.
They used the momentum of swing to Slash people it also saved energy so it was blade heavy so don't be racist by calling then small handed its about the technique of using it watch kallaripaytu tutorial videos it's the preferred style of fighting
You know what I love? Weird discrepancies between real life and game mechanics. For example, in Pathfinder 2e, the Talwar can be wielded two-handed and doing so increases its damage. I'm playing a character who fights with a Talwar, looked it up online, and realized that there is no way in hell you can use that sword two-handed lol
They might have held it with pointer and middle maybe. Like how some ppl hold the battle axes. As it is blade heavy it makes sense to use it like that. Wouldn't need a lot of gripping too and its actually easier and more accurate to manuever that way dont you think
The hand size doesn’t correlate with the handle. Northern Indians have huge hands, you will find kirpans (daggers) with larger handles than khanda or tulwar.
He really just exposed Indian hand sizes like that 🫣
Indian people are definitely smaller noticeably smaller people
@@Cheesepuff8It definitely varies depending on region and class, people from Kashmir were close to the height of contemporary Europeans for example
you'd have to imagine, back when this was made, people in general had smaller hands because they didn't have as much food, so most people would just be smaller stature in general. so smaller hands is no big shock lol.
People were smaller in the 18th century. Go visit dutch houses made in the 17th century, the ceilings are very low for modern dutch.
@@Cheesepuff8The Lindy is well over 6ft himself he's hardly representative of a typical Indian. Its likely, even in tall Indians that their hands are slim too.
Matt Easton has a video about it. He said that those handles are made to size. There are big ones as well
So what you're saying is that Indians have tinny hands, right?
If they're made to size why out of the hundreds of antique tulwars I have seen not one fits my hand.
I may be a tall guy at 195cm but plenty of Indians I have met equal me in size. Hell a few surpassed me.
So there are guys in India my size. So by that logic there should be an original tulwar that fits my hand. And yet the search goes on. And has gone on for decades at this point.
@@clothar23There are guys _now_ who are your size, but historically with a purely traditional Indian diet there might have not been...
@@clothar23 well to be fair the average male height in india TODAY is approximately is 5'6, and seems to be in decline. Given that the Tulwar we know has been produced since the 1500s I'm willing to bet that people were MUCH smaller in India throughout history, especially when you consider how far nutrition and food availability have come and how much that can impact a population's size. I don't know how big you are, but by the sounds of it the likelihood of someone your size both existing back then and also commissioning a tulwar to be made in a size that fits your hand is pretty low.
@@casbot71 I fail to see why not. The Hindu faith doesn't ban meat entirely. And while the Sikh faith does they're a minority in India.
Not to mention even a traditional Sikh diet with its vegan restrictions has just as much protein and calories as anything the modern world would possess. And being a trade hub even back in antiquity would mean access to foods from the world would be a thing.
Let us not also forget in traditional Indian society a Warrior was part of a privileged caste . Beaten only by nobility and the priesthood. So they would have eaten better than most. Not to mention trained as rigorously as any modern soldier. And their parents would have as well. That's a recipe for a tall and well built person.
hey man, just want to let you know that in the Gatka form of Tulwar combat, we utilize the small hilts/handles for control. instead of having to grip a large handle tightly for extended periods of time, we hold it with a slightly looser grip which allows us for more range of motion. most european sword styles depend on wrist movement, but the tulwar depends more on the shoulder joint, allowing us to grip a blade for longer with less fatigue.
also in the “alternate grip” that you showed, the index and thumb fingers remain extended inside the handle, try that out for feel! we basically push on the inside of the entire grip to hold the sword.
The way I have heard a Tulwar grip work is not to roll your finger over the guard, but have the guard rest on your thumb and your pointer finger for leverage, but the disc pommel needs to be as tight against the bottom of your hand as possible.
It ruins a lot of wrist movement that way, but the Tulwar is not meant to cut using the wrist instead of the shoulder is the main driver of that sword style.
Notably used by Dick Sharpe to save Sir Arthur Wellesley at the battle of Assaye, an act that earned him a commission from the ranks and a swanky telescope.
A telescope later smashed by a short sighted french man.
@@sticy5399 Then boi lost his glasses.
Justice!
haha "Dick Sharpe"!
There is a particular way to hold talwar most of kshtriya were of quite big stature you should ask asanta orwatch video of gurudev nidar singh in which he shows correct way
He's using the Mughal Tulwar so maybe it's a different use
@@BarlasofIndus you are saying right mughal sword have medium size discs to its easy than some talwar but still you have to use whole body i personally have tested both methods of handling the other way it much better you can easy change direction midway
Bro literally acquired a Tulwar the same week as me and explained my biggest complaint about it. I will say that the finger out feels incredibly intuitive, but would obviously be risky in combat
He has YOUR Tulwar
@@bootsontheground4913 Mine is gold with red velvet because I buy gawdy things. Checkmate
@@CodaMissionuh oh, replica alert
Not really. By how you use 'em you have a lot more important problems then a risk of your finger. It is virtually impossible to get hit down at the guard, unless you use a static guard and intentionally present the grip to block a strike.
@@MrPanos2000 booo gatekeepers suck in any fandom
I actually have a tulwar at home. Don't know if it is an original. But I agree with everything you say, the handle is just painful to hold. Also as you said, putting your finger over can be done, put it really hurts and doesn't provide as much control as you want
That rules. Is it a family heirloom of sorts? My grandfather's katana is with my aunt's family. I secretly wish it was mine.
You have a Tulwar at home? Big deal. Who doesn't?
@@StuBoIsEpic not really, but I did inherite it from the uncle of my mother. I think he got it from someone he knew, because we have no idian or Indonesian family.
@@1schwererziehbar1 you?
@@Yomabo Okay you got me I don't. 😢
"Look out, that's not a tulwar, it's an odachi!"
"What's the difference?"
"Well a tulwar is of Indian descent while an odachi is Japanese. While both are primarily slashing weapons the tulwar was favoured by cavalrymen as opposed to an odachi which was mainly used for dick-measuring!"
Ahh good, I knew this was gonna be here
The point is that "a nodachi's a little bit longer than a talwar, so it'll have more reach and do a bit more damage".
Thank god. I was going to lose hope
Abridged Kirito , not the hero SAO wanted....but the one it deserved.
From total war shogun 2 i remembered that odachi was a 2-handed weapon but now im confused
At that time every warrior used to have there own handsize customized ' Talwar ' accordingly to there hand size by Iron smiths (Lohars) 😭
Lindy is now my favourite sword CZcamsr
I recall the steel that ‘Arnander’ was made from was said to be prone to rust. Maybe a video about how you maintain your swords?
Most blades are prone to rust due to using high carbon steel. This is why swords and blades are oiled to create a barrier to prevent oxidation or any oils from your skin corroding the steel.
@@manticore117
Yeh I know but some of those steels are more prone to corrosion than others. I just wanted to see how he maintains his blades.
Idian hands aren't small, you're just a european Giant
While Lloyd is big even by European standards the Indians aren't exactly a short race. Which alongside the facial hair makes them atypical of the rest of Asia.
So it stands to reason something is up with most tulwars.
That's a child's sword.
Bullshiteing is easy on youtube these days
Awesome video! I love how you show off a lot of these underrated weapons from other cultures! Indian weapons especially have some really cool designs like the Urumi, Chakram, Bagh Nakh, and my personal favorite, the ancient Maduvu/Madu.
Kinda funny how this channel has gone full circle back to the really short videos
Man i love your new shorts for these little bits of history
I could listen to Lindy talk about historical weapons for hours.
I heard that German blades were widely common. Not exactly because of good quality (people say they were sometimes a bit better or on equal level) but because Germany has somewhat perfected the process of sword smithing to a degree that they were able forge many blades in a short period of time. Therefore many bought blades from them because there were many and they were not too expensive.
Yes, cost was definitely a factor. German blades of high quality were produced on an industrial scale in the 19th century. Though there were Indian blades of higher quality, they were more expensive, and not as quickly produced. High status people could afford an Indian Wootz blade for their tulwar, but they would use the affordable steel for the lower ranks of their regiments.
I would love to see more Indianarms being discussed on your channel.
For over a thousand years, most armies in what is now India and Pakistan have had a lot of light cavalry. This remained true under the British with divisions having a cavalry brigade.
tulwar (pronounced thal-waar) just means sword in hindi, urdu, and related languages. The word doesn't denote any specific style or type of sword. Similar to the word katana in Japanese.
I Disagree! native urdu speaker here and whilst yes talwaar is the generalisation we use in modern urdu/ hindi for sword , that's just because of how ubiquitous it has become, in my opinion talwaar is a type of sword, and there's other words to refer to other types of swords too, like the khanda, shamsheer and the firangi! Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
Talwar means tal - bottom n waar means slice/attack meaning slicing thru the bottom😊😊😊
True
No proposition Euclid wrote
No formulae the text-books know,
Will turn the bullet from your coat,
Or ward the tulwar's downward blow.
Strike hard who cares - shoot straight who can
The odds are on the cheaper man.
-Kipling, "Arithmetic on the Frontier"
People in general were just smaller back in the day than we are now.
He forgot mention that instead of a Frenchman passing by to be touch by that sabre it was a Englishman in this case.
I used to watch you like 6 years ago I'm so happy i found you again friend! You look good in short form
Love your videos
Fellow indian here,
That one is actually more of a show piece sword of kings
Its not for the fighting thats why the handle is that small.
Yes we have one in the house.
And its used to cut a small/tiny branch of a tree in in desh-hera.
To mark the beginning that festival in that town and allow the leaves of that tree to be taken.
If a straight blade is fitted into such handles, will the sword able to make thrusting motion ?
The way this guy holds the scabbard while pulling out blades... Guess heading for stitch job someday..
@lindybeige The handle size of 1-handed swords may be a good video topic. In the Met Armory, both European and Turkish swords seemed to have that very small handle. It seems especially odd considering they would be wearing gloves.
It would seem that either the little finger wraps around the pommel, or that the thumb braces against the cross guard.
My god I can’t imagine how horrific battle was back in those days
They never gripped the talwar tight. It just fit the palm whether open or closed. Shoulder roll movements were engaged to swing and parry in diagonal and criss cross directions. Unsure how it would perform against medieval knights , but were effective during pre colonial periods of sabres and muskets.
Lindybeige shorts are wild
I love that even though I didn't have my headset on to listen just yet, I could immediately read Lindys lips in perfect Lindy inflections as he said "This is a tulwar!"
One of my favorite, more obscure swords. Although I think my absolute favorite is either the shotel or the khopesh. Sickle-Sword VS Axe-Sword.
Oh I love Falx as 2 handed swords. Sickle swords are pretty awesome.
@@d.esanchez3351 Sica if you want a shield with that curvature. Or you can stick with the falx if you're aiming for the eyes of the guy behind the guy across from you.
Lindybeige in short form is wild. Used to listening to 2 hours of talking tweed.
That handle is small abd have a round disc at the end because
Talwar was used a one hand weapon and it is heavier than european sabets so without these 2 things at the back used to save person from wrist dislocation
Love these sword videos
I would imagine having your knuckles squeezed into it like that would give it additional stability
I own an antique tulwar .. and yes the grips are quite tight on those ones. Over the time i observed the traditional fighting style where they carry a Dhaal (small sheild) to parry. Perhaps the use of tight grips on these is they use the maneuvers of turning their wrists alot by getting closer to their encountering fighter. You can see some videos on that if you search. The style is indeed interesting.
I can imagine this being a good cavalry or downward striking weapon as all energy is at the end making it more forceful travelling towards the earth
The handle really favors upwards strikes weirdly
@@Yomabohich also makes sense for cavalry since you could let the sword hang until in contact with a foot soldier, then swing upwards to cut them.
That way it is harder to miss them, as opposed to swinging downwards and timing the strike.
Thnaks!
There is nothing about small hands-on it's all about tight grip
Which many westerner don't understands
The tulwar is fine but I like the shamshir simple but effective design.
The thumb over the back guard. The knuckle guard looks like it has a provisional face for the fire and middle fingers to “ride up” the guard. Just a guess, give’r a go.
Very cool original. Probably fits French hands well.
Lack Of Knowledge..
seeing this i can appreciate cold steel's Talwar folding knife
Tulwar gives me "cavalryman sword" vibes. The way you swing it, the way warfare was conducted in the north west part of South Asia, and the way the grip is constructed just makes it seem like you swing it from the top of a beast of war.
Infantryman used it as well but warfare in the Indian subcontinent was heavily cavalry based right up until the subcontinent was dominated by Britain.
I think the Mughals used it just for that purpose
Yes, you hold it differently: you keep your arms bent, and move it mostly with your upper arms and shoulder. The wrist is supposed to be stiff when using this--that's what the disk pommel is for.
Small grip was made to make the user hold it in a tight way where it requires the user to use drawing cut
Father Noko was using a saber in actual war. Finnish cavalry inherited weapons from Russian hussars in 1918. So in 1939 they had swords and spurs, but horses were soon replaced with bicycles and all sabers were mystically lost.
Tulwar is one of my favorite words to say.
Amazing
That sword is awesome 😎
Yes! Indian Tulwars are just beautiful weapons. I own so many of these passed down in my family.
Especially the Mughal ones
bro check out maharanapartap sword
classic british man, owning original indian historical items
Okay 😅 you do know talwars were actually customised according to each individual n it might be possible that this talwar was made for a very young warrior cause before Independence of India learning sword fighting n weapon training was actually part of the Curriculum of Indian Gurukuls ( schools)
Rumor has it the hilt was designed to encourage stop cuts basically slashier slashes.
the talwar is not the sabre of the Mughals, its the sabre or slashing weapon of the Rajputs of Indian origin. The Mogouls used a bit different variant of the sabre a bit smaller one and curved at the top edge & not a uniform curve.
Talwar came with Mughals
Did I see you at the Hoppings Fair in Newcastle? :)
you telling me the White Scars been swinging indian swords around this whole time? that doesnt seem right
This is an Indian blade from what I could see
People commenting about Indian hand sizes actually he is not holding in correctly indian warriors don't hold it like that we don't hold it tightly we hold it in a way that it stays in there so that we can fight for longer period of time without feeling pain
I could see how it's useful for slapping around a lot of unarmored opponents maybe. Or maybe the weight of the blade could really impact armor on horseback.
Tbh our version existed way before the Sabre
"Ya got small hands...." -this guy, probably
Perhaps they had a loose grip on the index finger to aid in slashing?
I have some Indian antiques, all have tiny grips I’ve always wondered about that
Move your palm a little behind - hold the handle like you are holding a burger or a sandwich - you can put the shape and flexiblilty to use properly
Not european blade but some of our sword used europen imported material at that time.
Indian talwar design is curved while european used straight blades.
Lindy Shorts! This has made me need to go back and catch up on your longer videos
Wonder if the sword in your hand has ever touched blood
You are holding it wrong. It's not because of small hands of India. Talwar is used by moving the shoulder whereas the Europeans are mostly using wrist only .. Indians believe in using the whole body movements rather than just wrist. To prohibit the talwar holder from using hand they make handle small, to help them train body movement especially shoulders.
Also it's not mugals that invented it. Just like Britisher they used it too when they came in as invaders. Talwar have been there for a long time In indian history.
Well he’s got big hands, that also plays a part.
Could you do a video on a dacian falx?
I imagine it was primarily used by the calvary.
A talwar guard is supposed to be perfectly snug. So that the weapon cant slide in your hand.... as a cavalry saber you can imagine the torque a sliding hild would put on your arm and wrist during combat... plus with the forms being designed for using the entire arm and a licked wrist to weild the blade it needs to aid that style.
One of my favorite swords
That is a ceremonial tulwar
Combat tulwars, at least in Nepal, do not have the weird pommel, but a handguard more in the style of a hand and a half sword with a US cavalry saber style guard, (or no guard at all) and a heavy front blade with a full tang and a very heavy blade at almost a third of an inch thick at the back end
If you're interested I can show a pic of one used in combat
Even considering the martial classes had a better diet than those who were exclusively vegetarian, their hands were probably quite small on average compared to Euro hands. I know some women who marry Indian men and move to India have noted that lots of bangles are too small to fit over their wrists.
Regarding the grip, my understanding is that it holds your hand instead of your hand holding it. The idea is not to use a firm hammer grip so much as you relax and open some of your grip so that your fingers push into the guard as opposed to squeezing the handle. Your middle and ring finger grip the handle but the other fingers are held more loosely.
Indian steel was exported to Middle East and in Europe called Damascus steel
They used the momentum of swing to Slash people it also saved energy so it was blade heavy so don't be racist by calling then small handed its about the technique of using it watch kallaripaytu tutorial videos it's the preferred style of fighting
Please do Stoke Mandeville again. I'm of the opinion that everything you've done is remarkable.
I think you do hold it with the index over the guard. Like a sidesword. For great big swings having it there as a fulcrum gives you more control. Imo
I don't know why but it feels almost wrong to see a Lindybeige "short"... Oh well, it is still Lindybeige so I'll smile and watch ;-)
Come to Rajasthan and hariyana I will show the how big a Indian hand can be
How come you forgot to mention the reason behind the tulwars having European blades?
This known as FIRANGI ...
You know what I love? Weird discrepancies between real life and game mechanics. For example, in Pathfinder 2e, the Talwar can be wielded two-handed and doing so increases its damage. I'm playing a character who fights with a Talwar, looked it up online, and realized that there is no way in hell you can use that sword two-handed lol
The dude is 6'3 telling someone who is 5'8 back then as having small hands. Ye, proportions.
Indian handle of sword is small because when you are moving your sword in battle field sword can be slipped from hand if handle is large
What’s the point of a hand guard if you put part of your hand outside the guard?
Tool War? I could not said it better myself.
Its not only used by mughals but also by the other kingdoms in India
Wait till you hear how tall Maharana Pratap was...
Could you imagine being an infantryman staring at a charging cavalryman wielding one of these?
Being infantry facing cavalry will be pretty bad no matter what 😂
They might have held it with pointer and middle maybe. Like how some ppl hold the battle axes. As it is blade heavy it makes sense to use it like that. Wouldn't need a lot of gripping too and its actually easier and more accurate to manuever that way dont you think
The hand size doesn’t correlate with the handle. Northern Indians have huge hands, you will find kirpans (daggers) with larger handles than khanda or tulwar.
THE Talwar is used by rajputs or hindu King's not by mughals🙏🚩🚩