This New NBA Top 50 List is Interesting…
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Tobias Harris above Kawhi is crazy as a sixers fan 😂
Jimmy is going to be upset they picked Tobias over Jimmy
Yeah they’re deff geeking 💀
"Toby over me"
Tobias is so overrated
That’s insane (fellow 76ers fan). Like dude 😭
the entire boston starting 5 being at least an honorable mention is crazy
Its fine we have like 2 and a half players on our bench
What the bench looking like tho
The have the best 6 or 7 man rotation
@@kripticlunar8198no they don’t 🤣
@@alexflood7397Hauser, Horford, and Pritchard have been balling out. Not to mention Oshae, Stevens, and Queta. They had a massive game tonight! The Celtics bench ain’t half bad tbh.
It's pretty crazy Scottie is at 30, especially when you see the group he has to work with, and the limited spacing, he must feel like he's back the college with a shrunken floor.
And defense isn't boosting his rank. With all his stocks he should be boosted up another 8-10
they have him come off within the first 6 mins, and run a offence that him and 4 bench players, and our bench sucks terribly, and we got a less then 20% 3pt shooter spacing the floor for him, and pascal shooting like less than 10% recently
he has a good group wdym, hes just stealing all the usage and stat padding rebounds. no reason 6'6 scottie should be out rebounding their center + pascal combined unless hes trying to stat pad.
@@sethc2241 Dude, do you even watch Raptors games? His usage rate is 20%, which is very low for someone who should be the number one option. And a lot of Scottie's rebounds are him actually going up and snatching them, not to mention 1/3 of his rebounds are offensive rebounds 🤦♂
by your own comment , so 2/3 of his rebounds are defensive bounds. Bro is 6'6 he should not be getting that many defensive rebounds over 6'8 pascal and 7'1 poeltl lmao. thats 6 defensive rebounds and 3 offensvie a game. STAT PADDING. And you also lied about his usage which is 23.9. He shouldnt be the first option to begin with players like pascal and OG. But on top of that to pretend like the players on his team arent good is dumb af. He is just eating into their counting stats. @@SparklingHarmony
I actually really like this kind of list because it’s not claiming that one player is better than the other it’s just ranking snapshots of their season so far. For example SGA is my favorite player. Do I think he’s better than Giannis overall? Not really. But is he having a better season so far? Yeah. I think this is a great way to acknowledge what players are doing without having to definitively say that one is better than the other.
Giannis statistically is playing slightly better than shai this season though
@@yodahekidanu9006 I mean comparing a guard’s stats to a big’s stats is always a weird comparison because they do such different things but looking purely at the numbers the only basic statistical categories that Giannis is clearly ahead of SGA in are rebounds and blocks. I haven’t looked at advanced stats so maybe those favor Giannis but my original comment wasn’t about just stats. The Thunder and the Bucks have basically the same record rn. Going into the year which one of those teams would you have said is better? That’s why I think SGA has had a better season so far. The Thunder go as he goes and as of right now they are second in the west, where nobody thought they’d be.
@@spencerwarner9268 before the season started I think most people would of put the thunder as a playoff team, they weren’t considered so much worse than the bucks. The thunder are also doing worse than the bucks record wise. So because the bucks have a higher winning percentage and Gianni’s have marginally better stats (pts,rebounds,true shooting etc), I would put him over shai, slightly.
@@yodahekidanu9006 aight bro. They are both great players so I’m not gonna argue with you in CZcams comments or try to talk down on Giannis. I know what he’s doing all I was saying is the bucks (who were a lot of people’s championship pick) have the same number of losses and one more win (because they’ve played one more game) than the OKC Thunder (who a lot of people said would make the playoffs as like the 7th or 8th seed). That combined with the fact that he doesn’t have anybody of Dame’s caliber on his team to take defensive pressure off him and he’s still putting up mvp type numbers is why I said I believe Shai has had a better start to the season.
But it’s just my opinion. I could be wrong. I guess that’s beauty of have like 60 more games left. A lot could change
Man shout out to Big Val. Glad the numbers show just how important he is. Also, I love the pure, no bias look of this ranking. Hard to argue with numbers.
Agreed, I love seeing lists and rankings like this based solely on numbers. I like eye test lists too but it's refreshing to see, by the numbers, who's who. Do wish defense played a bigger part but I'll take it. Luka with a first half trip dub and Embid with 50 the day this video drops is fitting as well.
issue with numbers is they really can never tell the whole story in sports, but DAMN do they come close.
This list just further proves that the eye-test is all that matters in the NBA. Having BI below Sabonis and Fox is laughable. The Pels beat the Kings 3/3 this year, including 1 by 40 points, and BI was the best player on the court all 3 games.
@@PelicansCourtsideClubthank you.. are these guys kidding me?
"Hard to argue with numbers."
I don't think it is "hard to argue with numbers"
there are games where if I look at the boxscore, it'll say one thing, if I see the game I walk away with a completely different opinion.
I've seen a clip recently where a team was allowed a timeout when they didn't have possesion, when it was a 2 point game with like less than 10 seconds left.
These numbers seem to be very heavily reliant on wins, so imagine one team has 2-3 wins that it really shouldn't have. Games are sometimes decided by 1-2 points, and multiple bad calls and foul trouble or ejections can have huge impacts on games. Anyways a win here, a win there, and this list would probably look way different (also any team that shouldn't have lost would now have a win where they had a loss)
like there are times when someone can look at a boxscore and think one thing
then if they see the game, they might see a charge called where it should've a blocking foul.
A couple of charges can put a player into foul trouble and limit their minutes. While a blocking foul likely would give them free throws.
I think it’s safe to say this formula should be scrapped😂
This is exactly why stats don’t tell the whole story
They only do with Jokic. Who is the best player in the league and has the best stats.
stats in general are useful, relying on a single stat that ignores so much is not. especially since the metric seems to be almost entirely based on game score, which is just putting standard box score numbers through a formula. If you are going to use stats alone to rank players imho you need to at least look at basic on/off numbers and how their team offense and defense looks when they are on the court. Basketball games aren't won simply by box score numbers.
They said they won't count defense as much and team winning is important if you look at that then it's pretty accurate
This list definitely not based on stats otherwise how can LeBron Maxey JT be above luka when they are clearly putting up less numbers..
@@awesomedinosthefirst3494on off numbers can be boosted if u only play with starters and ur replacement is a bum=jokic last year
Jimmy yelling Tobias Harris over me on this list
Since im early I just wanna give Kenny a quick thank you. The amount of quality content this man gives us is unreal. Keep it up KB 💪
Hey man I love the respect for SGA and all but I do think that Luka Doncic should be higher on this list with the amount of shots he’s been hitting and having a really good start to the season basically carrying a poverty franchise to at least a playoff spot is insane, I mean Luka is like the modern younger less athletic whiter and heftier version of Lebron
Luka isnt like Lebron, Luka is like Magic with a Jumper
Halliburton Shai and Ant are the new faces of the league
Ant still has a way to go, but he is getting some light due to Minnesota being ranked 1st in the west. Halliburton is fun to watch, Shai is top 3 MVP right now, may change as season progresses.
Luka is younger than shai
Definitely not true when you think if todays NBA like 95% of people are gonna think Lebron, Curry, Ginnais and probably KD but I can definitely see ANT being in that conversation in the future and Shai
Causal fans have no idea who these guys are, except maybe Ant, because they haven’t made the playoffs expect for the wolves but they’ve only played in the first round
that's gotta be racist... luka is literally better than all of them
Hopefully after this season, the borderline delusional KAT hate will die down.
I wish but NBA fans just hate to hate lmao. Even if he wins a ring he’ll get disrespected
as a suns fan, sometimes it really doesn't. Booker has been hated his entire career and it still shows with him being ranked in this list at 27. which is absolutely the worst thing i've ever seen regarding him lmao.
Happy Maxey is ascending. Congrats to him
“He’s gotten significantly better at whatever this is”
Nah, gobert at 46 is whack. He's so obviously better than so many players ranked higher than him. devin booker at 27 is just as ridiculous if not moreso, he's much better than that.
I may be biased but I think booker is honestly a top 10 player in the league if not top 15. He's easily the best SG and is proving to be a quality PG as well from his time learning from cp3
I appreciate you talking through/reiterating the methodology throughout. It’s nice to have something like that as a basis of discussion. But yo Dame should be up there with Giannis if we don’t care about defense 😅🦌 bucks in 6
Shai is an MVP candidate in my books, both using the eye test 👁️ and the statistics 📊
No he is not he is not better than Giannis Tatum Luka Steph Embild or Jokic.
He's definitely better than Steph, but the others on the list are probably still ahead of Shai at this point
@@jaceygaither2581it’s hard to say with Steph because he has 3 defenders swarming him at all times due to the rest of his team being buns this year
100% better than all those guys
candidate yes. will he win? no. its jokic by and far
Ending a video on "ahh whatever" is elite
Jokic being number 1 is always a hit 😂
love watching sga play basketball. his team is supporting him so good aswell. OKC got a bright future
Smart article by Bleacher Report. Like Kenny said toward the end of the video, it's all stats so people can't really argue against it, but rankings get people clicking and talking.
They dissed LaMelo Ball. Hes easily better than half this list
Franz and Paolo being in the 40s in this ranking makes sense. The methodology focuses on offense. And the magic dominate on defense so they don’t produce high offense stats.
Drinking game: take a shot every time Kenny mentions that defense isn’t accounted for
Look at Kenny man so inspirational
Random Question but how does one pull off the screen record/camera facing you set up he has right mow , i need it for content creation
Bro how tf is the BR "community" STILL underrating Jokic it's absolutely ridiculous to me. This dude no contest has been THE BEST player of the past few years, and was an absolute monster last playoffs on the way to a championship, and still slapping everybody around breaking basic and especially advanced stats, all while still being super entertaining to watch
Because he is a boring white guy with no drip no social media and not antics or smart comments. Most of the "Br community" are children and casuals.
What you talking bout he is ranked number 1 on the list
Wtf u on ab he #1
He’s talking about the BR community ranking him No 4 at preseason
Derrick White tho where he at tho 👀 ?
* Leads NBA in net rating (+14.5)
* Shooting: 50-42-88%
* On pace for 100+ blocks, 100+ steals + 200+ made 3s (never been done)
* Celts: 22-4 when he plays
Got him for Langford, 1 expiring, late 2022 1st (Blake Wesley) + a top-1 protected 2028 swap so basically got him for nothing and he's ballin out like a star
It’s always a good day when Kenny posts
Im young so i've been following the league from 2009. In that time i have never seen a player have a debut season with such maturity amd readiness to lead his team to playoff success as Chet Holgrem. I know everybody watching Wemby and he is amazing, but i am mesmerized with Holgrem, he is such a perfect playerm
Almost like he isn’t a true rookie
What did JB do😭😭
What’s tht site he showed one time where u can click on stats and u can watch them. Like in a game log, I can click on curry 3pt attempts, and I can watch all the shots?
luka under haliburton is crazy 😭
The Shai slander is ridiculous for a two way superstar averaging 30+ carrying his team when the opposing defense is centered on how to stop him and He’s incredibly efficient while doing so. Not to mention 2.5 steals this season plus real eye test defense effort outside of numbers.
if we are basing it on this year . jokic is the only player better than SGA. can we please start sticking to facts not names
Embiid> SGA
@@danielconnelly4017 he is now number 1
Derrick White not being in the top 100 at the beginning of the season to now being an honorable mention in a top 50 4 months later is wild.
It’s wild cause my hot take before the year was that Chet would win ROTY & come close to eclipsing a Top 20 player in the league….. I was told I was crazy
the thing is these are some weird stats, and they heavily rely on team success, which okc is doing very well, so in an actual ranking after this season, he would probably rank a decent bit lower
Yeah, having Melo cover the tattoo is wild.
This stat relating should be used like qbr is used in football
Bridges should be much higher imo. He’s the best perimeter defender in the league, has been averaging about 30 ppg over his last 10 games, and has led the nets to a solid 11-9 record.
Not the best perimeter defender in the league, imo that would be Herb Jones
This list is awesome. To be honest other than the pure team success stuff (like Chet is hella high in my opinion), this is a great unbiased snapshot of the league.
I think this does do a pretty good job of the best players in this season
Lauri Markkanen's rank should've been top25
That’s insane how low paolo is
MPJ on da pod??? Kenny you do us too well brotha
Love you Kenny
It’s super interesting of course indubitably sire
“He got significantly better at whatever this is.”
Respectfully….you are wrong about the KAT being the best wolves player rn. Edwards has been that guy and you said he hasn’t made a jump but that’s statistically. If you watch you would know he has made a huge jump from last year. KAT been playing great rn ngl but I’d say even gobert has been better than towns. Towns playing well for sure tho and that is a big part of why we are number 1 seed rn
Finally someone ranking Trae Young where he's supposed to be.
Dlo probably had 1 bad game. Thats it. His impact every where else is why he top 50
What up Kenny
I haven't seen much of the 6ers this year, but last year all the comments I saw were about trading some crumbly cookie for Tobias Harris
and now Tobias Harris is ranked as a better player than Kawhi, Butler, the $300 million dollar man Jaylen Brown
He's 1 spot away from passing Devin Booker
Kenny posted 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
really no argument for embiid over giannis. so glad the mvp award isn’t strictly a math equation
Just proves analytics don’t mean anything
🧢🧢🧢
@@d1queer they don't? Otherwise you would win every bet you place, teams who spend most on analytics would championships every year
@@brendanhunter389 there's a large gap between meaning everything and meaning nothing
kat above edwards is crazy
I’m gonna say it, Bane>Holiday and Derozen for sure
(P5) Paolo Banchero is leading a top 5 team in his 2nd year as a #1 option. A 2way player at that put some respect on him.
Babe wake up Kenny posted
"The Knicks always have the second best player"
Meanwhile Brunson is a top 20 player statistically (although since defense isn't counted as much he definitely got a boost for that lol)
Omfg everyone going on about shai this was based of the advance stats so you can’t argue about him not deserving to be 2 when it was based off stats like is shai better than giannis no but this season so far yes there can be a legitimate argument for it
Butler at #34 seems low to me. Maybe I'm missing something that's recent.
Gatta brush off ya hoodie Kenny, good video tho per usual tho ✊🏾
And we back.
I don't hoop but i'd rock that hoodie
I can’t rank players who haven’t won / proved anything in the playoffs high up on any list
I will never understand why you guys are unable to evaluate players in the moment of the given season. Yes we know Giannis had amazing run in the playoff 2 years ago, but it doesnt erase the fact there have been struggles with bucks in beggining of the season cause of dame trade. IN THIS SEASON IN THIS MOMENT, shai has been the second best performer in the league, its so obvious. Nobody is saying he is better than giannis or this or that, its just about performance in first THIRD of the season. So chill
What we learned is RPR is not a great stat on its own
kenny you should ask chat gpt to make a top 50 list of NBA players
Crazy how tyrese Maxey reacted to Tyrese Maxey
Shai good…. But not that good
If you don’t watch OKC games just say it
@@duffal0tell me with a straight face he is better than Gianni’s
@@ttmo1757Shai is better than Giannis and Jokic
@@ttmo1757He is better than Giannis. Not Jokic.
@@808bboarder💀
This thumbnail made me happy off rip
Kenny I agree with you 95 precent of the time but you saying Halliburton isint at least the fifth best player in the league this season is absolute blasphemy
Haliburton is balling but its not an insult. You can argue 5 pgs better than him and thats not to bash
@@benana87 using this season alone you definitely can't, shai curry and luka are the only ones who have an argument
@@thesecretwombat056 its too soon man.. curry been balling,fox,shai,jokic,luka,giannis, luka all have a case man. Its like when dame was killing it but it was too guard heavy in the west for him.
@@benana87 I agree with that but only 4 of those players are pg's and I would argue that fox doesn't have an argument over Halliburton
@@thesecretwombat056 yea just saying you can make the case haliburton is or isnt top 5.top 10 for sure and i wanna see how long they keep this going for
As a Kings fan having Sabonis over Fox is ludicrous and I love them both.
I’m guessing it’s due to efficiency. Fox isn’t inefficient but his 3pt percentage and free throw percentage isn’t amazing as a point guard.
Sabonis is a playmaker, don't be like coach Mike.
They just said defense wasn’t that important to this; this isn’t ludicrous
Didn’t fox miss some games?
Maxey, Lebron, Tatum & Durant being above Dončić is, safe to say, ridiculous.
This list is stupid af
Damn I read this right before this video.
"he got significantly better.. at whatever this is"
Ice cold take: Stars get older and decline. Primes do not last forever. These younger guys are gonna pass your older favourite player😐
Birthday boy Duncan Robinson was snubbed
how is Rudy not on this list lol
Oh damn.u right
this is a cool metric
So Shai first team over curry?
Kenny I love ya but we gotta get you some new assets for the brand everyone has used that star oval graphic already kinda played out imo
Sengun is so good man
It's stats..which is good..but to not account for defense is ridiculous..that's half the game..
16:15 fact’s thank you
Tobi at 28😭😭😭
Trae above curry is criminal 😭😭
Let’s goooo T- Wolves!!!
i fully agree shai shoulda been 1 tho
Wtf.hell nah
Druss , valanciunis, and mpj over franz and Paolo is crazy
Nah man Val has been insane this year
Val is better tf you on
Lbj at 10 is wild
Alpiiiiiii getting love, u love to see it
Damn bro you didn't have to say no like that about haliburton not being a top 5 player in your mind he isn't top 5 but he is probably 6th or 7th
No Bane Jesus this guys so under appreciated
Prolly because the grizzlies are ass
It’s based on stats
Luka at 10 is insane😂😂(below maxi and bron come on man)
This list is wak without context
There's zero team in the league that would take DRuss over Holiday
where tf is desmond bane 💀🙏
Did he not say big kat