@@ron88303 Since R' Singer is an ardent apologist for rabbinic Judaism, he will probably always insist the Masoretic texts accurately reflect the original Hebrew autographs, that the Tanakh is inerrant, and is also univocal.
Because these parishioners are probably more interested in verifiable facts, rather than doctrines, and dogmas built upon the concept that the bible is inerrant, and univocal.
A book full of ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Canaanite and Greek myths and made up stories that contradict regional history and archeology is not of divine origin. Supremacy and calling for G side of others certainly does not help its claims of divine origin.
Teaching people to mistrust God's letter sent to humankind. A spiritually blind guide, intellectualizing God's Word, in an expert's disguise. Like Israelite King Manasseh who misled God's people for decades, only to realize he had to repent, may God grant you the opening of the eyes, and His mercy when you'll return to Him.
A book full of ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Canaanite and Greek myths and made up stories that contradict regional history and archeology is not of divine origin. Supremacy and calling for G side of others certainly does not help its claims of divine origin.
Hard to take this guys serious, a whole lot of talking but no valuable information that actually leads to the truth. I guess that’s the foundation of Gnosticism. “We know what didn’t happen but we have no clue what actually did happen.” K.
A natural philosophy and adherent of biblical analysis which he is very good at but misses the point IT was edited in the light of supernatural insight in an attempt to draw people into the supernatural law of God which humans can only point at ,inconsistencies abound ,but they are correct Jesus is the alpha and omega supernaturally speaking .
@@ron88303 too many supernaturals but still the Bible in today's theological logical quasi scientific mind sets is like seeing a contoured map and ignoring or misreading them or just ignoring fine dotted footpaths ,the BIBLE is a spiritual text meant to inspire us to let go and trust in God's power more directly absolutely it isn't primarily a who did what when ,earthe is His footstool!
By positing the supernatural, you can explain away literally anything. So it’s pretty useless as an explanation. It’s certainly unhelpful to doing history or any related discipline.
Interesting that he quotes manuscripts from Eastern history having similarities to Jewish manuscripts. The bible makes it clear that God chose a people to reveal himself to and our scriptural history comes from Judaism not Eastern teachings. Another attempt to doubt the word God as being all authority and accepting different cultural beliefs. His teaching will only lead to universalism which means that we can accept any cultural belief and a belief in many deities or God's. No mention of Jesus Christ...as Paul said, many false teachers and prophets will appear and if possible, deceive even the elect. Remember Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life and no one will come unto father but through him only. Any other way is like a thief and a robber. BEWARE of false teachers.
His point wasn’t just to point out similarities between many stories in the Hebrew Bible and myths that came before, but to show that they were the INSPIRATION for the stories found in the Old Testament, and that in fact many are copied almost verbatim into the OT (Moses’s auspicious birth, the flood, etc.) His point is that the history of the scriptures is partly that they’re adapted retellings of much older stories. And there’s no mention of Jesus because this talk was specific to the Old Testament and Judaism, so obvious Jesus wouldn’t be relevant.
He is talking about context - ancient near eastern context. It was the bath water that the narratives were written in. we have the same going on right now. read Dr. Michael Heiser to get some current context about how to read ancient narratives. Nothing wrong with what he is talking about AND being a believer. Context is king. He is not a false teacher.
we can still agree/enjoy his views on ANE world and his findings on the same, while filtering out what does not agree with our personal and Biblical beliefs. @@hailemaryam1174
Professor Baden is always a pleasure to hear. Brilliant, clear, straightforward.
He's all that but really he's also hilarious and I completely share his humor style.
I'm a huge fan of Joel!
He's very intelligent, articulate ... and funny!
Yes, this is a great lecture… not only from content…. But also from his engaging presentation
Please share the Q&A if you can. This is so interesting.
Terrific! The Biblical approach of re-reading sounds appropriate for the US Constitution.
put that into my playlist, 'Untold History of the Bible' (content for truth seekers)
Incredible! Excellent!
Cleaning the stain of lgnorance upheld by blind faith.
PREACH! Ty Joel always love siempre
Can you please ask rabbi Tovia to respond and let him challenge other people on this topic
I believe Tovia has a YT channel; that would be a suitable place present his case ... as weak as it might be.
Lol, that utter crackpot?
@@ron88303 Since R' Singer is an ardent apologist for rabbinic Judaism, he will probably always insist the Masoretic texts accurately reflect the original Hebrew autographs, that the Tanakh is inerrant, and is also univocal.
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I don't understand why a church invited someone to share about the contradiction in the Bible which would contradict their beliefs
Because these parishioners are probably more interested in verifiable facts, rather than doctrines, and dogmas built upon the concept that the bible is inerrant, and univocal.
There are a lot of more liberal leaning churches that aren’t Biblical literalists.
@@yohei72 Maybe in Europe, but the USA is ground zero for evangelicals / fundamentalists, and if you go 'Down South', you're in KJV only territory.
@@What_If_We_TriedYes, even in America, though we’re certainly more fundamentalist than Europe.
Pursuit of knowledge. Agree or disagree but don't close your mind.
A book full of ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Canaanite and Greek myths and made up stories that contradict regional history and archeology is not of divine origin. Supremacy and calling for G side of others certainly does not help its claims of divine origin.
Teaching people to mistrust God's letter sent to humankind. A spiritually blind guide, intellectualizing God's Word, in an expert's disguise. Like Israelite King Manasseh who misled God's people for decades, only to realize he had to repent, may God grant you the opening of the eyes, and His mercy when you'll return to Him.
A book full of ancient Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Canaanite and Greek myths and made up stories that contradict regional history and archeology is not of divine origin. Supremacy and calling for G side of others certainly does not help its claims of divine origin.
Hard to take this guys serious, a whole lot of talking but no valuable information that actually leads to the truth. I guess that’s the foundation of Gnosticism. “We know what didn’t happen but we have no clue what actually did happen.”
K.
A natural philosophy and adherent of biblical analysis which he is very good at but misses the point IT was edited in the light of supernatural insight in an attempt to draw people into the supernatural law of God which humans can only point at ,inconsistencies abound ,but they are correct Jesus is the alpha and omega supernaturally speaking .
Earth calling richardprice; earth calling richardprice. Can you read me; over?
@@ron88303 too many supernaturals but still the Bible in today's theological logical quasi scientific mind sets is like seeing a contoured map and ignoring or misreading them or just ignoring fine dotted footpaths ,the BIBLE is a spiritual text meant to inspire us to let go and trust in God's power more directly absolutely it isn't primarily a who did what when ,earthe is His footstool!
Ha ha ha ha ha. That's a really good old joke.
@@richardprice9730 It's always amusing when people pontificate about the "supernatural" - something that has yet to be demonstrated even exists.
By positing the supernatural, you can explain away literally anything. So it’s pretty useless as an explanation. It’s certainly unhelpful to doing history or any related discipline.
Prideful Deconstructionist...
Whiny, willfully ignorant fundamentalist.
Self-certain inerrantist…
Interesting that he quotes manuscripts from Eastern history having similarities to Jewish manuscripts. The bible makes it clear that God chose a people to reveal himself to and our scriptural history comes from Judaism not Eastern teachings. Another attempt to doubt the word God as being all authority and accepting different cultural beliefs. His teaching will only lead to universalism which means that we can accept any cultural belief and a belief in many deities or God's. No mention of Jesus Christ...as Paul said, many false teachers and prophets will appear and if possible, deceive even the elect. Remember Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life and no one will come unto father but through him only. Any other way is like a thief and a robber. BEWARE of false teachers.
His point wasn’t just to point out similarities between many stories in the Hebrew Bible and myths that came before, but to show that they were the INSPIRATION for the stories found in the Old Testament, and that in fact many are copied almost verbatim into the OT (Moses’s auspicious birth, the flood, etc.) His point is that the history of the scriptures is partly that they’re adapted retellings of much older stories.
And there’s no mention of Jesus because this talk was specific to the Old Testament and Judaism, so obvious Jesus wouldn’t be relevant.
He is talking about context - ancient near eastern context. It was the bath water that the narratives were written in. we have the same going on right now. read Dr. Michael Heiser to get some current context about how to read ancient narratives. Nothing wrong with what he is talking about AND being a believer. Context is king. He is not a false teacher.
Joel makes a lot of sense actually.
Are you people so deaf that you don't hear him saying that the Bible is a false text if one is looking for truth?
we can still agree/enjoy his views on ANE world and his findings on the same, while filtering out what does not agree with our personal and Biblical beliefs. @@hailemaryam1174