Dusty Cox Store Manager of Olin Mott on Kennedy Blvd says its hard to keep mechanics because of the low pay and lack of career path at the beginning of their career.
@@LiterallyGod you seem to be forgetting, I have never payed a shop to repair my cars, i do all my own work..lol i swap engines outside in a parking lot.. I grew up working on cars..
Fuck that working from the bottom to the top. If I start working in a auto shop, you better pay me more than 20 bucks an hour, even if I'm a lube tech. This ain't a cashier job. Wtf am I gonna do with 13 bucks an hour. If you tell me that I have to do brakes, oil changes, tune ups ,etc, for 13 an hour, ima tell you that all I'm doing is sweeping up the shop....can't believe that Mcdonald workers make more than technicians.
Your absolutely correct. Amazon here starts at 20 an hour and lube tech shops and auto dealerships start at 15 I have proof if I could post it here. Why would anyone go into auto tech business. Dish washers starting pay is more than lube techs. It’s a joke of an industry now. And I worked over 23 years as an auto tech and I say stay away.
@Vic I’m not sure about his case. But majority of lube techs are hourly. So doing a brake job is just work they don’t get paid to do or should do unless it’s for experience. Before I left my shop I was in , they would give up sales such as tires brakes to lube techs to save labor cost and give more money to the shop. The techs got screwed. They will do whatever it takes to save costs even at the expense of Techs.
No one can survive off of $13 - $15 an hour that is why there is a shortage of mechanics. No one can afford rent and food with that pay. He needs to pay his workers better wages or it's not even worth it. Imagine working 40 hours a week and still not being able to pay your bills. The cost of living has gone up, so the pay needs to go up as well. Common sense dude
Imagine having to also pay for your own tools on top of all of the normal expenses of living. While he mentioned that it takes time to become that experienced technician after they get out of trade school, what he didn't say is that takes about ten years to reach that level. Then another ten years to really start to master the trade that has no finish line to needing to learn new systems and invest in more and more tools.
@@thecardoc100 the only finish line in this industry is to open your own shop, these companies be charging alot to customer's and paying less the employees, then investing that money to open more shops.
@@bcgangs I did just that almost 30 years ago. I did OK, but the expenses of running my own business including scan tools and software updates, insurances and taxes etcetera were far greater than what ended up on the bottom line which of course was my income.
13-15$ an hour? That's beyond a rip-off. They always charge 5-10x what it takes to do it yourself. The managers/owners are 100% pocketing way too much and not paying their employees well.
Nearly all skilled trades are running 30-40% gross profit margins healthcare and finance are 45% these rathole chop shops are criminally colluding and pushing over 80% margins on service labor now.They belong in prison!
They're paid what's called a "flat rate" usually. Which means if a job is rated to take 20 hours (such as a engine swap), whether you finish in 10 hours or 30 hours, you're paid for 20 hours of work. Also most jobs I see today offer 22 dollars an hour for entry level mechanic with a few benefits, then also there's internships where you work while you learn that pay 18 an hours
@@dimpledchimpy1106 Yeah but flat-rate times are supposed to be ONLY what the technician agreed to perform the repairs before they are done and not what anybody else's interpretation of some cooked up book and the current average competitive gross profit margin on any skilled trade is ranging from 30-40% which makes our actual real value at 60-70% of their stated retail shop rates instead they are all criminally colluding and capping our hour rates at 25% or less.That whole industry is corrupted and criminal as fuck.Illinois just passed HB3940 requiring manufactures to pay at least retail labor times and retail times are ONLY what the technician agreed to and these are already federal laws that aren't being enforced.The technicians do not directly work for the manufactures either they work for the owner of the dealer so the owner is responsible for paying the technicians fairly and legally not the factory.A manager cannot say that because somebody decided not to pay the dealer that the dealer does not have to pay me.
@@dimpledchimpy1106 You cannot fix even one component of determining our pay yet they are very clearly and openly fixing our percentages and our labor times.Their margins on labor should be averaging a competitive 38.67% ranging from 29-45% instead these dealers having criminally colluded to force their margins over 75% now and they are obviously dictating labor times.CRIMINALS!"The judge ruled without oral argument on the motions. In his opinion, the judge wrote that "'price fixing' has not been limited to conduct that literally directly 'fix[es] … the price of a commodity'…Instead… the definition of horizontal price-fixing agreements cuts broadly. As such, any naked agreement among competitors-whether by sellers or buyers-that fixes components that affect price meets the definition of a horizontal price-fixing agreement.""If dealers conspire with each other on prices, that's horizontal price fixing. If a factory has agreements with dealers to fix prices, that is vertical price fixing. Both together are known as hub-and-spoke price fixing, said Ed Glynn, a Washington antitrust lawyer.""6 He concluded that "an agreement to fix the price of labor is 'tantamount' to an agreement to fix prices, and 'thus falls squarely within the traditional per se rule against price fixing.'"Dec 7, 2021 - However, the court in Jindal clearly held that wage-fixing is a form of price fixing that the DOJ can prosecute as a criminal violation of the Sherman Act.7 While Jindal was a decision about wage-fixing among employers in the labor market, a court has yet to decide whether the DOJ can prosecute a no-poach agreement criminally as a per se violation of the Sherman Act. To date, the DOJ has brought criminal charges in three no-poach cases, beginning with the first indictment in January 2021 charging Surgical Care Affiliates (SCA) with violating the Sherman Act by entering into a no-poach agreement with two other companies not to solicit each other's senior-level employees.
I definitely can understand of needing to make a living wage especially today with food and rent through the roof. But you can't start at the top you got to start at the bottom like we did when we were young and with that comes the crappy pay 😔 . To increase their pay they would have to increase our service bill everybody screams out raise the pay but nobody wants to pay the price of it.
@@FairyChild_For_Freedom-Justice Crappy pay 30 years ago went further than it does today. $13-$15 an hour today is not a livable wage… especially with skyrocketing rent, food and gas prices. On top of the economic realities, considering that techs must get an education and certification, $13-$15 an hour makes even less sense. Techs are also expected to buy their own tools, which means they are working to cover that additional expense… And as technology evolves, techs need more proprietary tools in order to service and repair vehicles than they did 30 years ago.
13 $15 an hour and you're charging $120 an hour labor rate. Stop trying to get over, and give them the right percentage; you'll keep your mechanics. if the works getting done' it deserves to get paid for.
True except that labor rate needs to be $280-$320 per hour. As a shop owner I'm the highest in my city at $225 per hour. To pay the technicians we have to get the money from you.
Not worth being a mechanic, low pay. Have to buy your own tools. Keeping up to date all the time, where other trades are better like plumber, builder and get paid better and less tools needed comparing as a mechanic. Diagnosing problem jobs do take time and on flat rate you can loose. Dealing with customers is another story so many weird people out there, I tell young people not to go into this trade, my only regret in my life is getting into Automotive trade. I'm leaving automotive trade this year after 23yrs.
I started out at $10hr. The most I ever made was $17hr and that was in a ghetto shop that lacked the tools to do a proper job. The army paid me more then working for these sleeze balls. You can drive a truck and make more money. I work for family now.
Burger King pays $13 starting down here in northern Alabama and pay and a half for overtime (41 hrs a week or more) and I make $12.50 as a tech no overtime, lunch is mandatory. It’s not bad for me because I have zero bills and just graduated some months ago. But you could never truly make a living off of that. Keep in mind everyone in my shop is treated as/expected to perform as a technician, not an apprentice. New or not. I have pulled engines from VW’s to replace oil seals and have done some transmissions and make less than the fry cooks down the road.
yea lets see, should I go get a job as a stocker at target for $18 an hour or buy 20k worth of tools to work for a shop for $13 an hour. decisions, decisions.
@@cantbuyrespect had that attitude when I made 13, as the sole provider for a family of 3 but sucked it the fuck up and kept going and learning and proving I was worth while as an asset and moving on if I wasn't appreciated at a job. Now make a lot. But if I had given up I wouldn't be here, I'd maybe make a few bucks an hour more in the small picture. Sometimes you gotta eat shit and keep eating it.
@@cantbuyrespect also like you literally don't need to buy 20k worth of tools if you're a lube tech making 13 an hour... Dude it's your problem if you're buying rape truck tools at rape truck prices doing fucking oil changes and tires all day. That snap on hutch sure looks fucking great empty.
@@Shuturulsdad why do you sound so angry lol. I actually made $23 a hour and the tools I needed to make that kinda of money was over 20k because my employer was a cheapwad that wouldnt buy diagnostic tools. All I am saying is why in the world would someone work somewhere they have to spend 1000s to make $13 when they can stock shelves at target for $18 lol. Also if you dont buy better tools to do work other then oil changes and tires how do you expect to get a higher paying tech job? Been in that industry for 15 years. It sucks. I would not go back. I am a software engineer now making $40 a hour and the company provides me with my computers, moniters, software etc.
Bruh 13 to 15 dollars an hour that is ridiculous this younger generation forcing these companies to come out of their pockets its either that or go out of business
" there's a shortage! " Auto Student: goes to apply entry level Autoshops: " sorry if your not 100yrs experienced we don't want you. Oh you went to school? Lol you don't deserve to learn from us" Autostudent: Goes into a different career. Autoshops: " We cant find anyone at all!"
I had two friends from high school go to UTI to learn and I started as a lube tech. I became a tech before they were finished with the school. And after they came to my work applied and was told they didn’t have experience to be full blown techs so they can be lube techs. There both in other industries now.
Same nonsense in many industries. Everyone wants another company to foot the bill for training costs. Cheapskates lose. Smart companies train their employees
As a shop owner I agree,but yhat being said the expense should be passed on to the customer and to pay someone on that scale labor rates will have to be around $250 an hour
@@bobbywarthan5173 yeah well some shops charge 150$-180 a hour flat rate and pay 20$ per hour explain that to me..does the boss need to make 10x the mechanic just to pay rent.. or is it to pay for the 100k Denali truck and vacations..
The Florida Right to work may be the Problem. Well this is WHAT we pay take it or... I have 40 years experience ASE Master, went to 3 Dealerships and All offers under 25 dollars per. But here the guy says up to 15 dollars per for a oil changer. So a Experienced Tech is Only Worth A few Bucs more..HMMM with a tool box with over 60k worth of tools in it-- So I did ask a dealer why and I got an answer( we dont pay like they do in NY). So I ask him " if this shop is Charging the Same Dollar per hour as in NY then why wont you Pay" The Answer was Because we dont. There was 0 negotiation. I wished him luck. PS yes I guess Im an Old timer that can still Fix anything and soon to retire- but I'm not going to start for less than 30. The younger people today have little Ambition to work or fix cars not like when I was young but they want that 15 dollars per hour.. Why Florida Voted for that is crazy....... GL Peace
Any decent Mechanics is worth 35% of labor rate. shops will say that some mechanics take longer than they should but they'll still bill the customers for 10 hours of Shop rate on a mechanics 8-hour day.
"old timer". You guys don't know shit tell me how a BMW network system works and how you would diagnose that. You don't know that. All you guys know is how to remove nuts and bolts. Please. Hey old timer have you considered that there's no rust in Florida and there's a metric shit ton of rust in NY? It literally takes 3x longer to do the same job in NY maybe that's why they get more money. I've worked on Florida cars you can literally remove 30 year old exhaust bolts in less than a minute. That would take 30 minutes to multiple hours on a northern car.
You should be paid least 40 an hour for the amount of tools, experience and knowledge you have. But they can't do that because owners and managers gotta take most of the money in.
The current average competitive gross profit margin on any skilled trade or professional service is 38.67% ranging from 29-45% nearly all skilled trades are 30-40% and healthcare and finance are at 45% and a 36% average across all industries.That makes a technicians real actual value at between 55-71% of their stated retail shop rates.NADA is a cartel and they have all criminally colluded to force their margins up over 75% now.I was dating a female service manager that attended these dealer association meetings where they discussed and agreed to these wage fixing and no-poach rules.HARDCORE CARTEL CONDUCT!Techs need to get smart and start raising Hell! "Workers are entitled to the benefits of a competitive market for their services. They are harmed if companies that would ordinarily compete against each other to recruit and retain employees agree to fix wages or other terms of employment or enter into so-called “no-poaching” agreements by agreeing not to recruit each other’s employees. Going forward, the Justice Department intends to criminally investigate naked no-poaching or wage-fixing agreements that are unrelated or unnecessary to a larger legitimate collaboration between the employers. These types of agreements eliminate competition in the same irredeemable way as agreements to fix the prices of goods or allocate customers, which have traditionally been criminally investigated and prosecuted as hardcore cartel conduct."
Seriously who the hell after going to school wants to start at the bottom, like schools go deep into diagnostic computer systems. As soon as you graduate, they give you a broom and waste your time. AND TIME IS VALUBLE , YOU NEVER GET THAT TIME BACK! YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK AND MAKE MORE MONEY THEN WASTING TIME AT A SHOP TRYING TO CLIMB THE F***** LADDER. Driving a truck, make money right away. Seriously even someone flipping burgers make more then someone who graduated from trade school . Dont waste your time, keep cars as your hobby, do it on the side, and drive a truck
If by hard you mean changing tires because of the physical demands, that would be correct. There is much harder work both physically and mentally that newer technicians (under five years experience) are simply not trained nor sufficiently skilled to do yet.
@@thecardoc100 I just installed a new Transmission in my wife's Honda Civic. It's hard labor and takes skill to complete the Job. Only thing left is the Idle relearn procedure that Honda requires. It's the same as a Gear relearn using a professional scan tool.
@@davidhall3747 That's a good example of both the physical and mental demands of the job. There are tools that help us deal with the physical side that are generally considered shop tools that the average technician working for someone else would not have to buy. The only other thing a senior technician is likely expected to do is rebuild the transmission instead of just replacing it.
The work isnt that bad its the greedy shop owners that make auto repair Undesirable. Who in there right mind would do tires and oil changes for $13 an hour
shop owners forget to mention their shops aren't temp controlled or they're using lifts from the 1990s or their parts delivery isnt consistent or the favorite techs they feed or the lack of benefits or no tool reimbursement or their sales guys cant stay out of the shop or their bad management runs techs or the terrible warranty pay or the lack of guaranteed hours. Cant imagine why people dont want to work in this field and choose a career that actually pays them their worth
man i hope it falls out so bad..🤣🤣 I used to be a mechanic making 25/per hour flat rate. it sucks hard, expensive tools etc. not worth the money or time. I hope i see big dealership shops close down. I know its bad to say that.
Its astounding how the rules of supply and demand apply to everything but the labor market. If you have a mechanic shortage your not paying enough. On the other hand if your in denial about that you can come up with all sorts of idiotic excuses to justify it. Just like the denial of a drug addict.
The money has to come from somewhere, and somewhere must start with the consumer. The industry as a whole needs to raise the shop rates across the nation. If you can work on you own car good for you, if not were here for you.
For California flat rate technicians: Thus, according to California’s wage laws for mechanics, if your employer expects you to bring and use your own tools to complete regular work duties around the shop, you are entitled to at least double minimum wage. If your employer provides you with all of the tools necessary to perform your job and does not require you to bring your own tools, he or she is required to pay only the state’s minimum wage. Why does the double minimum wage rule exist? It exists to prevent unscrupulous employers from passing operating costs to low wage earning employees. You must get compensated for your breaks also. Every four hours worked you get a 10 minute break plus lunch, the employer needs to pay you for this.
Cars have maybe got a bit too complicated. There is so much learn but the pay isn't there to learn all that. Its the fault of cheap credit that keeps sending incentive to car makers to keep adding features because consumers keep buying.
It takes around 5 years before you feel comfortable in a trade but with classroom training you might be up and running in2-3 years where you could feel confident and do a good job. A person that doesn't know what they are doing can screw up more than they fix!
Five years to get decent, the only thing now with direct injection, high voltage and amperage systems, hybird, and electric vehicles if you make a mistake you could DIE!
I’ve been a tech for 13 years, ASE Master and im so miserable i hate my job and the money for all that i have to keep up with , im even thinking about getting a CDL and becoming a truck driver
So during that "quite a bit of time" it takes a new hire to become a full knowledgeable mechanic, ... do customers get a price break for having an inexperienced person working on their car at a lower rate ? NOOOOO ... see and thats the telltale of the real problem. Theres also the issue of "good work" vs "bad work". 25 years working in auto service and i failed to find an employer who would evenly spread the good and the bad to EVERYONE in the shop. Theres more to the story of why mechanics are quitting than what your video showed
I don't see what the big deal is, I worked for a major chain auto repair shop for over 2 years out flagging (but being paid hourly) a lot of the techs on oil changes, tires etc, it was hard work for shit pay. I finally gave up and quit after 2 years of being over looked for promotions to further my career. I went to a shop that paid 13 which isnt much but for an entry level job it's ok. I'm sorry but entry level in this career is shit and if you cant come to terms with that maybe this industry ain't for you. The money comes with experience idk what else to say other that fucking work hard or don't work in this business at all. Like why should we pay 20 an hour for someone who literally drains oil all day?
Pride doesn't put food on the table. A truck driver in the starting time you stated, already made far more then you had. Why waste time, when you can earn more in different trades? Pride doesn't pay bills or feed families or pay of school. Get off your high horse
how about we do away with shops changing oil and we let the costumers lay down in the dirt and get greasy and burnt changing their own oil, that sounds like a better solution, wouldn't you agree?
Been a Diesel mechanic for 23 years. This guy is right. You don’t deserve the higher pay for at least 7 years. We have had a mechanic shortage for 10 years btw.
I advise anybody who will listen NOT to be a mechanic You do so much free work under warranty The average pay is 40k a year! HVAC pays close to 100k All is great until something goes wrong, then you are called a liar and a thief Chrysler owes me 250k for 20 years of free warranty work. Sure work for years doing free work and work yourself up to do MORE free work. PAY up suckers!
I've always been curious if an experienced and intelligent auto mechanic with a good work ethic can make over $100k per year if working in a major urban city. I believe the answer is NO. If that's the case, intelligent people with a good work ethic should go to college because making $100k / year in a major city is no big deal.
So to sum up. You will pay for school and your own tools be criminally underpaid for years, destroy your body and have to learn a complex machine that only gets more complicated as time goes on which will require continued education you will also be responsible for.... yeah no. I was considering this heavily but after hearing about mechanics problems these days i decided to sign up for cdl training instead. Shame, but if that's how the industry is i'll go somewhere that will treat me better.
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Improvise, adapt, overcome. Electric cars still use tires, brakes, suspension parts, A/C, electrical parts for the gadgets they have. In this field there is always new technology so if you want to be good and master this craft, you need to remain humble and continue to educate yourself.
Tell me you have never been to a Tesla service center or certified body shop without telling me you have never been to a Tesla service center or certified body shop.
Owner: You have to have years in the industry to do bigger jobs and better pay Worker: You had me for 5 years as a lube tech even when i told you to train me along the years! Owner: Why are they quitting? Damn kids don't wanna work!
how is one mechanics opinion the word of law ? i know mechanic straight out of tech school that got a job right away and are loving their lives right now...
How many techs would you need to hear from in order to convince you how far the trade needs to go in order to even begin to attract the kind of talent that it needs?
I was a mechanic i grew up as a kid working on stuff, Im almost 40 years old.. don't do it these guys loving it are idiots. It kills your back and joints. Not worth it 100%. I work on my own stuff now, Now im a body tech making more money salary, then i was ever doing on mechanic work flat rate. I swap engines out in my jobs parking lot though. Gotta keep the side hustles rolling..😂😂
Apples and oranges. There's a big difference in what you have to invest in to work in those two occupations. A mechanic needs the initial technical education, then must invest in personal tools. Tens of thousands of dollars worth. Of course that is usually built up over time, but it is a continual expense. So is on going training, because technology is constantly evolving. So there is alot of expense involved. You don't just show up and go to work.
Have you ever replaced anything in your car? It's a lot more difficult than doing most things in the restaurant industry. I say that as someone who's worked in both fields. Also, try looking for fancy old folks homes. They pay really good even if the tips are basically none. Super easy to get a job there in today's economy too.
You get 7.25 with tips..and all you do is receive order, bring people there food and clean up the table. A mechanic can lose his life on the job....and even though you get 7.25 a hour you probably still get paid more than 13 an hour since you receive tips, and you don't have to pay weekly bill for tools. Being a auto tech sucks bro. Keep washing them dishes.
My daughter's been waiting for a catalytic converter for her VW Jetta for 4 months now with the dealer. It's bad out there folks but let's not put this on our president let's put it on the industry ,shipping, and the pandemic the world was shut down for nearly two years and we have catch up to do. The demand never slowed down just the productivity. ✌️😔😳
Yes the 15hr sucks but it wouldn’t matter these kids today don’t want to clean up shop and get dirty work there entitled to get mechanic wages right away, but there going to lose every time!!! Everyone starts at bottom!!
Push yourself to make time. My last week as a dealership technician saw me do four 3.8l V6 engines where I needed to replace the camshaft bearings. The short version of the story is all I would have had to do is pull the heads off (16 bolts) and push the pistons out and I would have had a bare block in front of me. So pulling the engine, tearing it apart to that level, and get it all back together running on one day was pushing myself hard enough to break even on the clock hours under warranty. Do you have any idea what that would have paid me if it wasn't warranty? Oh and that also means with no mistakes, because we didn't get paid at all for anything that we had to redo.
A self inflect wound, so you people do not want to pay, and you want kids to enter into your trade, auto mechanic are the fastest changing trade , what a joke. So you need a coolant recovery tank. No the tank do not keep your car from overheating, cars used to have no tanks. You can substitute any container of suitable size.
you could swap in another tank as long it has the correct hoses size for attachment and temp sensor and can handle hot coolant pressure, cause these tanks are pressurized.. and yes the car would overheat without this tank.. but anyway..
😳 they don't want to start at the beginning they want to start at the top. This is the parents fault for raising privileged children you don't start at the top you aim for the top. This isn't anything. So sad these youngins think you're born with the silver spoon you don't have to earn it. 🤮🙄💔
$13-$15 an hour is not a living wage anywhere around where this shop is located…and I’m picking up on some anger issues with the term “silver spoon,” the accusation of laziness and also blaming parents 💁🏻♂️
Everyone blames the parents or work ethic or the new generation so on so on. The problem is there charging 140.00 a hour shop rate and that's across the bored doesn't matter if they are paying a technician 13 a flat rate hour or 25 you still pay the same. I understand there is overhead in all shops, but these dealers are greedy. I was a technician for 25 years. I make more money driving for Uber and I don't have to buy my own tools work when I want go home when I want and take lunch when I want
I started by pushing a broom and doing scut work for cash under the table while still in high school. I kept at it and one day someone handed me a wrench and told me to remove a part. Pretty soon I was actually working on cars, but it took a long time. I advanced due to attrition - someone above me would quit and my duties would expand to fill the gap.
Who the fuck after spend money in school want to start at the bottom. Truck drivers make far more money in a way shorter amount of time. Like fuck that. Pride doesn't pay bills or feed you. Also when you start at the bottom, none of the uppers want to teach shit unless you submit being treated like a fking dog and take bs. Grab CDL go drive a truck. Make money.
As a tech for thirty years and a shop owner for almost twenty these technicians need to get paid, my techs start at $25 per hour I'm willing to pay more although you have to give me more. Nowadays you can't check tire pressures without having to reset an on-board computer which take extra time.
You have to buy your own tools, pay for school, and you only get fifteen an hour? That’s insane.
Mc Donald's pay more lmao, no tools needed and free lunch!
@@turboimport95 laugh it up until there are no mechanics to fix your car. Genius. No wonder yall are uneducated
@@LiterallyGod you seem to be forgetting, I have never payed a shop to repair my cars, i do all my own work..lol i swap engines outside in a parking lot.. I grew up working on cars..
@@turboimport95 actually i wasnt “forgetting” because i cant forget something i was never told you absolute genius. You just proved me right.
@@LiterallyGod So im uneducated i guess, I graduated Highschool and got 3 ASE certifications, but anyway please continue Dr..
Fuck that working from the bottom to the top. If I start working in a auto shop, you better pay me more than 20 bucks an hour, even if I'm a lube tech. This ain't a cashier job. Wtf am I gonna do with 13 bucks an hour. If you tell me that I have to do brakes, oil changes, tune ups ,etc, for 13 an hour, ima tell you that all I'm doing is sweeping up the shop....can't believe that Mcdonald workers make more than technicians.
Your absolutely correct. Amazon here starts at 20 an hour and lube tech shops and auto dealerships start at 15 I have proof if I could post it here. Why would anyone go into auto tech business. Dish washers starting pay is more than lube techs. It’s a joke of an industry now. And I worked over 23 years as an auto tech and I say stay away.
IN n Out works make 20$hr
@@geargrinder4784 seriously?!
@Vic I’m not sure about his case. But majority of lube techs are hourly. So doing a brake job is just work they don’t get paid to do or should do unless it’s for experience. Before I left my shop I was in , they would give up sales such as tires brakes to lube techs to save labor cost and give more money to the shop. The techs got screwed. They will do whatever it takes to save costs even at the expense of Techs.
@Vic ain't no such thing as gravy work when u get paid hourly.
That man is proving how paying huge sums of $$ for college doesn’t grant you anything.
And 30 k in tolls they have no idea how to use comfortably or at all
No one can survive off of $13 - $15 an hour that is why there is a shortage of mechanics. No one can afford rent and food with that pay. He needs to pay his workers better wages or it's not even worth it. Imagine working 40 hours a week and still not being able to pay your bills. The cost of living has gone up, so the pay needs to go up as well. Common sense dude
Imagine having to also pay for your own tools on top of all of the normal expenses of living. While he mentioned that it takes time to become that experienced technician after they get out of trade school, what he didn't say is that takes about ten years to reach that level. Then another ten years to really start to master the trade that has no finish line to needing to learn new systems and invest in more and more tools.
@@thecardoc100 the only finish line in this industry is to open your own shop, these companies be charging alot to customer's and paying less the employees, then investing that money to open more shops.
@@bcgangs I did just that almost 30 years ago. I did OK, but the expenses of running my own business including scan tools and software updates, insurances and taxes etcetera were far greater than what ended up on the bottom line which of course was my income.
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Mf don't hire new people either because they don't want to teach making the situation even worse
13-15$ an hour? That's beyond a rip-off. They always charge 5-10x what it takes to do it yourself. The managers/owners are 100% pocketing way too much and not paying their employees well.
Come to Houston it’s way worse
Nearly all skilled trades are running 30-40% gross profit margins healthcare and finance are 45% these rathole chop shops are criminally colluding and pushing over 80% margins on service labor now.They belong in prison!
They're paid what's called a "flat rate" usually. Which means if a job is rated to take 20 hours (such as a engine swap), whether you finish in 10 hours or 30 hours, you're paid for 20 hours of work. Also most jobs I see today offer 22 dollars an hour for entry level mechanic with a few benefits, then also there's internships where you work while you learn that pay 18 an hours
@@dimpledchimpy1106 Yeah but flat-rate times are supposed to be ONLY what the technician agreed to perform the repairs before they are done and not what anybody else's interpretation of some cooked up book and the current average competitive gross profit margin on any skilled trade is ranging from 30-40% which makes our actual real value at 60-70% of their stated retail shop rates instead they are all criminally colluding and capping our hour rates at 25% or less.That whole industry is corrupted and criminal as fuck.Illinois just passed HB3940 requiring manufactures to pay at least retail labor times and retail times are ONLY what the technician agreed to and these are already federal laws that aren't being enforced.The technicians do not directly work for the manufactures either they work for the owner of the dealer so the owner is responsible for paying the technicians fairly and legally not the factory.A manager cannot say that because somebody decided not to pay the dealer that the dealer does not have to pay me.
@@dimpledchimpy1106 You cannot fix even one component of determining our pay yet they are very clearly and openly fixing our percentages and our labor times.Their margins on labor should be averaging a competitive 38.67% ranging from 29-45% instead these dealers having criminally colluded to force their margins over 75% now and they are obviously dictating labor times.CRIMINALS!"The judge ruled without oral argument on the motions. In his opinion, the judge wrote that "'price fixing' has not been limited to conduct that literally directly 'fix[es] … the price of a commodity'…Instead… the definition of horizontal price-fixing agreements cuts broadly. As such, any naked agreement among competitors-whether by sellers or buyers-that fixes components that affect price meets the definition of a horizontal price-fixing agreement.""If dealers conspire with each other on prices, that's horizontal price fixing. If a factory has agreements with dealers to fix prices, that is vertical price fixing. Both together are known as hub-and-spoke price fixing, said Ed Glynn, a Washington antitrust lawyer.""6 He concluded that "an agreement to fix the price of labor is 'tantamount' to an agreement to fix prices, and 'thus falls squarely within the traditional per se rule against price fixing.'"Dec 7, 2021 - However, the court in Jindal clearly held that wage-fixing is a form of price fixing that the DOJ can prosecute as a criminal violation of the Sherman Act.7
While Jindal was a decision about wage-fixing among employers in the labor market, a court has yet to decide whether the DOJ can prosecute a no-poach agreement criminally as a per se violation of the Sherman Act. To date, the DOJ has brought criminal charges in three no-poach cases, beginning with the first indictment in January 2021 charging Surgical Care Affiliates (SCA) with violating the Sherman Act by entering into a no-poach agreement with two other companies not to solicit each other's senior-level employees.
13 an hour is bonkers, no wonder that shop needs help ahahahahaha
You have to pay a living wage for a good mechanic or they won't stay. They will go to the next place that will pay more. It costs too much to live.
I definitely can understand of needing to make a living wage especially today with food and rent through the roof. But you can't start at the top you got to start at the bottom like we did when we were young and with that comes the crappy pay 😔 . To increase their pay they would have to increase our service bill everybody screams out raise the pay but nobody wants to pay the price of it.
@@FairyChild_For_Freedom-Justice Crappy pay 30 years ago went further than it does today. $13-$15 an hour today is not a livable wage… especially with skyrocketing rent, food and gas prices. On top of the economic realities, considering that techs must get an education and certification, $13-$15 an hour makes even less sense. Techs are also expected to buy their own tools, which means they are working to cover that additional expense… And as technology evolves, techs need more proprietary tools in order to service and repair vehicles than they did 30 years ago.
13 $15 an hour and you're charging $120 an hour labor rate. Stop trying to get over, and give them the right percentage; you'll keep your mechanics. if the works getting done' it deserves to get paid for.
True except that labor rate needs to be $280-$320 per hour. As a shop owner I'm the highest in my city at $225 per hour. To pay the technicians we have to get the money from you.
Not worth being a mechanic, low pay. Have to buy your own tools. Keeping up to date all the time, where other trades are better like plumber, builder and get paid better and less tools needed comparing as a mechanic. Diagnosing problem jobs do take time and on flat rate you can loose. Dealing with customers is another story so many weird people out there, I tell young people not to go into this trade, my only regret in my life is getting into Automotive trade. I'm leaving automotive trade this year after 23yrs.
I left at age 35 after 20 years of busting my hump for ungrateful employers. Now I drive a truck over-the-road and wished I'd done it much sooner.
Every veteran Tech from both auto and diesel say the same shit
I started out at $10hr. The most I ever made was $17hr and that was in a ghetto shop that lacked the tools to do a proper job.
The army paid me more then working for these sleeze balls.
You can drive a truck and make more money.
I work for family now.
@@SoundsofthewoodFast and the furious lookin ahhhh "I work for family now" 😂😂😂
Did he say $13 to $15 an hour? Bro McDonald's is paying $16 and no hard labor. SMH.
no tools and free lunch!! thats what these clowns are forgetting.. the mech shops charge 150$ to 180 per hour but pay 15$..
MickeyDee's be where the money at Bro!
Auto technicians are getting taken advantage of through shrinking labor times for each job and warranty pay.
There it is!!!!
Burger King pays $13 starting down here in northern Alabama and pay and a half for overtime (41 hrs a week or more) and I make $12.50 as a tech no overtime, lunch is mandatory. It’s not bad for me because I have zero bills and just graduated some months ago. But you could never truly make a living off of that. Keep in mind everyone in my shop is treated as/expected to perform as a technician, not an apprentice. New or not. I have pulled engines from VW’s to replace oil seals and have done some transmissions and make less than the fry cooks down the road.
yea lets see, should I go get a job as a stocker at target for $18 an hour or buy 20k worth of tools to work for a shop for $13 an hour. decisions, decisions.
If you're making 13 an hour, most of the shit you'll need is at harbor freight dog
@@Shuturulsdad most of what I need at $13 a hour is a new career dog.
@@cantbuyrespect had that attitude when I made 13, as the sole provider for a family of 3 but sucked it the fuck up and kept going and learning and proving I was worth while as an asset and moving on if I wasn't appreciated at a job. Now make a lot. But if I had given up I wouldn't be here, I'd maybe make a few bucks an hour more in the small picture. Sometimes you gotta eat shit and keep eating it.
@@cantbuyrespect also like you literally don't need to buy 20k worth of tools if you're a lube tech making 13 an hour... Dude it's your problem if you're buying rape truck tools at rape truck prices doing fucking oil changes and tires all day. That snap on hutch sure looks fucking great empty.
@@Shuturulsdad why do you sound so angry lol. I actually made $23 a hour and the tools I needed to make that kinda of money was over 20k because my employer was a cheapwad that wouldnt buy diagnostic tools. All I am saying is why in the world would someone work somewhere they have to spend 1000s to make $13 when they can stock shelves at target for $18 lol. Also if you dont buy better tools to do work other then oil changes and tires how do you expect to get a higher paying tech job? Been in that industry for 15 years. It sucks. I would not go back. I am a software engineer now making $40 a hour and the company provides me with my computers, moniters, software etc.
Bruh 13 to 15 dollars an hour that is ridiculous this younger generation forcing these companies to come out of their pockets its either that or go out of business
Wt fdo you mean
13-15$?!? That’s outrageous!! That isn’t a sustainable wage at all.
Agreed. It’s no wonder that fucktard can’t find any employees. There’s not enough money in this industry anymore that’s why so many are getting out.
" there's a shortage! "
Auto Student: goes to apply entry level
Autoshops: " sorry if your not 100yrs experienced we don't want you. Oh you went to school? Lol you don't deserve to learn from us"
Autostudent: Goes into a different career.
Autoshops: " We cant find anyone at all!"
I had two friends from high school go to UTI to learn and I started as a lube tech. I became a tech before they were finished with the school. And after they came to my work applied and was told they didn’t have experience to be full blown techs so they can be lube techs. There both in other industries now.
Same nonsense in many industries. Everyone wants another company to foot the bill for training costs. Cheapskates lose. Smart companies train their employees
I'm a auto mechanic for 35 years an I still get start pay less than my experience
The amount of knowledge you need to fix cars is year. The pay shoulf be 30 dollars for lube techs , 40 for level 2 and level 50.
As a shop owner I agree,but yhat being said the expense should be passed on to the customer and to pay someone on that scale labor rates will have to be around $250 an hour
@@bobbywarthan5173 yeah well some shops charge 150$-180 a hour flat rate and pay 20$ per hour explain that to me..does the boss need to make 10x the mechanic just to pay rent.. or is it to pay for the 100k Denali truck and vacations..
The Florida Right to work may be the Problem. Well this is WHAT we pay take it or... I have 40 years experience ASE Master, went to 3 Dealerships and All offers under 25 dollars per. But here the guy says up to 15 dollars per for a oil changer. So a Experienced Tech is Only Worth A few Bucs more..HMMM with a tool box with over 60k worth of tools in it-- So I did ask a dealer why and I got an answer( we dont pay like they do in NY). So I ask him " if this shop is Charging the Same Dollar per hour as in NY then why wont you Pay" The Answer was Because we dont. There was 0 negotiation. I wished him luck. PS yes I guess Im an Old timer that can still Fix anything and soon to retire- but I'm not going to start for less than 30. The younger people today have little Ambition to work or fix cars not like when I was young but they want that 15 dollars per hour.. Why Florida Voted for that is crazy....... GL Peace
Any decent Mechanics is worth 35% of labor rate. shops will say that some mechanics take longer than they should but they'll still bill the customers for 10 hours of Shop rate on a mechanics 8-hour day.
@@2TROLL1 Thank you.. I work flat rate no guarantee
"old timer". You guys don't know shit tell me how a BMW network system works and how you would diagnose that. You don't know that. All you guys know is how to remove nuts and bolts. Please. Hey old timer have you considered that there's no rust in Florida and there's a metric shit ton of rust in NY? It literally takes 3x longer to do the same job in NY maybe that's why they get more money. I've worked on Florida cars you can literally remove 30 year old exhaust bolts in less than a minute. That would take 30 minutes to multiple hours on a northern car.
You should be paid least 40 an hour for the amount of tools, experience and knowledge you have. But they can't do that because owners and managers gotta take most of the money in.
The current average competitive gross profit margin on any skilled trade or professional service is 38.67% ranging from 29-45% nearly all skilled trades are 30-40% and healthcare and finance are at 45% and a 36% average across all industries.That makes a technicians real actual value at between 55-71% of their stated retail shop rates.NADA is a cartel and they have all criminally colluded to force their margins up over 75% now.I was dating a female service manager that attended these dealer association meetings where they discussed and agreed to these wage fixing and no-poach rules.HARDCORE CARTEL CONDUCT!Techs need to get smart and start raising Hell! "Workers are entitled to the benefits of a competitive market for their services. They are harmed if companies that would ordinarily compete against each other to recruit and retain employees agree to fix wages or other terms of employment or enter into so-called “no-poaching” agreements by agreeing not to recruit each other’s employees.
Going forward, the Justice Department intends to criminally investigate naked no-poaching or wage-fixing agreements that are unrelated or unnecessary to a larger legitimate collaboration between the employers. These types of agreements eliminate competition in the same irredeemable way as agreements to fix the prices of goods or allocate customers, which have traditionally been criminally investigated and prosecuted as hardcore cartel conduct."
Seriously who the hell after going to school wants to start at the bottom, like schools go deep into diagnostic computer systems. As soon as you graduate, they give you a broom and waste your time. AND TIME IS VALUBLE , YOU NEVER GET THAT TIME BACK! YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK AND MAKE MORE MONEY THEN WASTING TIME AT A SHOP TRYING TO CLIMB THE F***** LADDER. Driving a truck, make money right away. Seriously even someone flipping burgers make more then someone who graduated from trade school . Dont waste your time, keep cars as your hobby, do it on the side, and drive a truck
And let me tell you when you work as a new mechanic making 15 an hour you'll be the one doing all the hard work.
If by hard you mean changing tires because of the physical demands, that would be correct. There is much harder work both physically and mentally that newer technicians (under five years experience) are simply not trained nor sufficiently skilled to do yet.
@@thecardoc100 I just installed a new Transmission in my wife's Honda Civic. It's hard labor and takes skill to complete the Job. Only thing left is the Idle relearn procedure that Honda requires. It's the same as a Gear relearn using a professional scan tool.
@@davidhall3747 That's a good example of both the physical and mental demands of the job. There are tools that help us deal with the physical side that are generally considered shop tools that the average technician working for someone else would not have to buy. The only other thing a senior technician is likely expected to do is rebuild the transmission instead of just replacing it.
@@thecardoc100 Understood. 👍
The work isnt that bad its the greedy
shop owners that make auto repair
Undesirable.
Who in there right mind would do
tires and oil changes for $13 an
hour
@Jerry Boden that's an easy one. Mechanics suck at talking to customers. Without service writes, customer base would drop by half
@@geargrinder4784 no mechanics, are usually honest to people, service writers always try to upsell shit..
shop owners forget to mention their shops aren't temp controlled or they're using lifts from the 1990s or their parts delivery isnt consistent or the favorite techs they feed or the lack of benefits or no tool reimbursement or their sales guys cant stay out of the shop or their bad management runs techs or the terrible warranty pay or the lack of guaranteed hours. Cant imagine why people dont want to work in this field and choose a career that actually pays them their worth
105 degrees outside and the manager inside the A/C all day wondering why you're not working faster lol
This is why I do my own work and maintenance on my vehicles.
It will get much worse, wait 2 years.
man i hope it falls out so bad..🤣🤣 I used to be a mechanic making 25/per hour flat rate. it sucks hard, expensive tools etc. not worth the money or time. I hope i see big dealership shops close down. I know its bad to say that.
Its astounding how the rules of supply and demand apply to everything but the labor market. If you have a mechanic shortage your not paying enough. On the other hand if your in denial about that you can come up with all sorts of idiotic excuses to justify it. Just like the denial of a drug addict.
The money has to come from somewhere, and somewhere must start with the consumer. The industry as a whole needs to raise the shop rates across the nation.
If you can work on you own car good for you, if not were here for you.
Or middle/upper management can take pay cuts🤷🏾♂️
For California flat rate technicians:
Thus, according to California’s wage laws for mechanics, if your employer expects you to bring and use your own tools to complete regular work duties around the shop, you are entitled to at least double minimum wage. If your employer provides you with all of the tools necessary to perform your job and does not require you to bring your own tools, he or she is required to pay only the state’s minimum wage.
Why does the double minimum wage rule exist? It exists to prevent unscrupulous employers from passing operating costs to low wage earning employees.
You must get compensated for your breaks also. Every four hours worked you get a 10 minute break plus lunch, the employer needs to pay you for this.
Body techs are in short supply too. I am retired and I get called back to fill in quite often.
Cost too much to turn a wrench . You can sell parts for 15 dollars an hour and never have to spend 10-20 grand on tools.
Cars have maybe got a bit too complicated. There is so much learn but the pay isn't there to learn all that. Its the fault of cheap credit that keeps sending incentive to car makers to keep adding features because consumers keep buying.
It takes around 5 years before you feel comfortable in a trade but with classroom training you might be up and running in2-3 years where you could feel confident and do a good job. A person that doesn't know what they are doing can screw up more than they fix!
Take your time frame estimates to the ten and twenty+ year range and you would be a lot closer to reality.
School and factory training, and still get screwed. The whole industry is fucked. Just drive trucks. Payed the same but spend far less
Five years to get decent, the only thing now with direct injection, high voltage and amperage systems, hybird, and electric vehicles if you make a mistake you could DIE!
Dementia Joe!
Say the TRUTH FLAT RATE PAY IS A SCAM TO A TECH!!!
Yes it is and needs to go away.
Also, warranty jobs when you work at the dealership.
That's the point less cars on the road. Nevertheless better learn how to fix majority of things yourself. Only go to shops for big repairs.
I’ve been a tech for 13 years, ASE Master and im so miserable i hate my job and the money for all that i have to keep up with , im even thinking about getting a CDL and becoming a truck driver
13$ an hour? no wonder why they cant find people 😂
I wouldn't even do only oil changes for 20/hr
13 to 15 an hour dosent pay for squat especially in california.
Everything is a shortage
You cannot live on 15 an hour
@Vic im not gonna waste my time trying to understand that mess of a comment.
@Vic no. U just assume ppl always have streams of business..
Go to junkyard to find parts
The price of tools ridiculous the job, stressful, especially work in the rust belt customers😮 can be a pain in the ass The pay sucks
Only shortage is of employers that pay a fair wage.
It’s low pay. I did it for 17 years and changed careers. I would not wish an auto technician job on my worst enemy
So during that "quite a bit of time" it takes a new hire to become a full knowledgeable mechanic, ... do customers get a price break for having an inexperienced person working on their car at a lower rate ? NOOOOO ... see and thats the telltale of the real problem. Theres also the issue of "good work" vs "bad work". 25 years working in auto service and i failed to find an employer who would evenly spread the good and the bad to EVERYONE in the shop. Theres more to the story of why mechanics are quitting than what your video showed
Automotive technician shortages is a national crisis.
I don't see what the big deal is, I worked for a major chain auto repair shop for over 2 years out flagging (but being paid hourly) a lot of the techs on oil changes, tires etc, it was hard work for shit pay. I finally gave up and quit after 2 years of being over looked for promotions to further my career. I went to a shop that paid 13 which isnt much but for an entry level job it's ok. I'm sorry but entry level in this career is shit and if you cant come to terms with that maybe this industry ain't for you. The money comes with experience idk what else to say other that fucking work hard or don't work in this business at all. Like why should we pay 20 an hour for someone who literally drains oil all day?
Pride doesn't put food on the table. A truck driver in the starting time you stated, already made far more then you had. Why waste time, when you can earn more in different trades? Pride doesn't pay bills or feed families or pay of school. Get off your high horse
how about we do away with shops changing oil and we let the costumers lay down in the dirt and get greasy and burnt changing their own oil, that sounds like a better solution, wouldn't you agree?
Can't afford tools much less rent and food for just 13-15 an hour.
Maybe y'all should pay them more.
"...and fewer and fewer cars on the road" That's good thing!
Been a Diesel mechanic for 23 years. This guy is right. You don’t deserve the higher pay for at least 7 years. We have had a mechanic shortage for 10 years btw.
I advise anybody who will listen NOT to be a mechanic You do so much free work under warranty The average pay is 40k a year! HVAC pays close to 100k All is great until something goes wrong, then you are called a liar and a thief Chrysler owes me 250k for 20 years of free warranty work. Sure work for years doing free work and work yourself up to do MORE free work. PAY up suckers!
It's worth be a mechanic you start from the bottom then work your way up it takes years to understand
Not worth the time. While other trades you start making pay right away. Further more, alot of the older techs tend to not want to teach Jack shit
I've always been curious if an experienced and intelligent auto mechanic with a good work ethic can make over $100k per year if working in a major urban city. I believe the answer is NO. If that's the case, intelligent people with a good work ethic should go to college because making $100k / year in a major city is no big deal.
$13 an hour? That’s how much my McDonald’s pays to start.😂
It’s always the owner salesman the main technician making the money nowadays while the young guys do the work and get paid, nothing for it 👍🏼
$100+ hour or nothing
I would love to pay you that and never come to the shop. The first time you get stuck on an issue or you damage something, then what?
@@GL0697 Ill gladly pay for whatever I damage, for 100 per hour flat rate.. so are we good? 😂😂
A mechanic changes oil and tires. A technician is the one that tells you why your 90k vehicle doesn't run properly.
Nobody mentions all the tools you have to purchase!
So to sum up. You will pay for school and your own tools be criminally underpaid for years, destroy your body and have to learn a complex machine that only gets more complicated as time goes on which will require continued education you will also be responsible for.... yeah no. I was considering this heavily but after hearing about mechanics problems these days i decided to sign up for cdl training instead. Shame, but if that's how the industry is i'll go somewhere that will treat me better.
People are waking about about being under paid
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Abolish flat rate and pay people what they are worth.
No more money in it.
Mil spouses are willing to work but only to transfer 2-4 years later.
There's no shortage of techs. He has a shortage of techs willing to work cheap.
With electric cars coming. These techs are going into a losing trade..
How do you figure?
Improvise, adapt, overcome. Electric cars still use tires, brakes, suspension parts, A/C, electrical parts for the gadgets they have. In this field there is always new technology so if you want to be good and master this craft, you need to remain humble and continue to educate yourself.
Tell me you have never been to a Tesla service center or certified body shop without telling me you have never been to a Tesla service center or certified body shop.
@@SCHMALLZZZ mechanics.. the article is not showing anybody working on a EV.
If they don't get there act together and say no, they will be.
Owner: You have to have years in the industry to do bigger jobs and better pay
Worker: You had me for 5 years as a lube tech even when i told you to train me along the years!
Owner: Why are they quitting? Damn kids don't wanna work!
how is one mechanics opinion the word of law ? i know mechanic straight out of tech school that got a job right away and are loving their lives right now...
How many techs would you need to hear from in order to convince you how far the trade needs to go in order to even begin to attract the kind of talent that it needs?
I was a mechanic i grew up as a kid working on stuff, Im almost 40 years old.. don't do it these guys loving it are idiots. It kills your back and joints. Not worth it 100%. I work on my own stuff now, Now im a body tech making more money salary, then i was ever doing on mechanic work flat rate. I swap engines out in my jobs parking lot though. Gotta keep the side hustles rolling..😂😂
go work at fast food it pays more
Pay us 50 an hr
Pay shortage not a mechanic shortage
Holy $hit!! People are complaining about starting out at $13 an hour??? I work in the restaurant industry and I get $7.25 an hour!
Apples and oranges. There's a big difference in what you have to invest in to work in those two occupations. A mechanic needs the initial technical education, then must invest in personal tools. Tens of thousands of dollars worth. Of course that is usually built up over time, but it is a continual expense. So is on going training, because technology is constantly evolving. So there is alot of expense involved. You don't just show up and go to work.
I wouldn’t work for 17 a hour even wtf 😳 and I’m 26
Have you ever replaced anything in your car? It's a lot more difficult than doing most things in the restaurant industry. I say that as someone who's worked in both fields. Also, try looking for fancy old folks homes. They pay really good even if the tips are basically none. Super easy to get a job there in today's economy too.
You get 7.25 with tips..and all you do is receive order, bring people there food and clean up the table. A mechanic can lose his life on the job....and even though you get 7.25 a hour you probably still get paid more than 13 an hour since you receive tips, and you don't have to pay weekly bill for tools. Being a auto tech sucks bro. Keep washing them dishes.
Plus tips?
Don't fall for this gimmick. There's no shortage. They're still paying minimum wage because there's a surplus of mechanics. You've been warned.
A total waste of time, , you will be a Victim of low pay, The youngsters today know better.
Yeah nobody is interested in that low pay
My daughter's been waiting for a catalytic converter for her VW Jetta for 4 months now with the dealer. It's bad out there folks but let's not put this on our president let's put it on the industry ,shipping, and the pandemic the world was shut down for nearly two years and we have catch up to do. The demand never slowed down just the productivity. ✌️😔😳
Yes the 15hr sucks but it wouldn’t matter these kids today don’t want to clean up shop and get dirty work there entitled to get mechanic wages right away, but there going to lose every time!!! Everyone starts at bottom!!
Bahaha UPS driver here started at $24/hr. Making more than the guys fixing the trucks 🤣
If your being lazy and cant push your self to take time and effort to do it then how are you going to learn for your self
Push yourself to make time. My last week as a dealership technician saw me do four 3.8l V6 engines where I needed to replace the camshaft bearings. The short version of the story is all I would have had to do is pull the heads off (16 bolts) and push the pistons out and I would have had a bare block in front of me. So pulling the engine, tearing it apart to that level, and get it all back together running on one day was pushing myself hard enough to break even on the clock hours under warranty. Do you have any idea what that would have paid me if it wasn't warranty? Oh and that also means with no mistakes, because we didn't get paid at all for anything that we had to redo.
Just get into truck driving
A self inflect wound, so you people do not want to pay, and you want kids to enter into your trade, auto mechanic are the fastest changing trade , what a joke. So you need a coolant recovery tank. No the tank do not keep your car from overheating, cars used to have no tanks. You can substitute any container of suitable size.
you could swap in another tank as long it has the correct hoses size for attachment and temp sensor and can handle hot coolant pressure, cause these tanks are pressurized.. and yes the car would overheat without this tank.. but anyway..
😳 they don't want to start at the beginning they want to start at the top. This is the parents fault for raising privileged children you don't start at the top you aim for the top. This isn't anything. So sad these youngins think you're born with the silver spoon you don't have to earn it. 🤮🙄💔
$13-$15 an hour is not a living wage anywhere around where this shop is located…and I’m picking up on some anger issues with the term “silver spoon,” the accusation of laziness and also blaming parents 💁🏻♂️
Everyone blames the parents or work ethic or the new generation so on so on. The problem is there charging 140.00 a hour shop rate and that's across the bored doesn't matter if they are paying a technician 13 a flat rate hour or 25 you still pay the same. I understand there is overhead in all shops, but these dealers are greedy. I was a technician for 25 years. I make more money driving for Uber and I don't have to buy my own tools work when I want go home when I want and take lunch when I want
I started by pushing a broom and doing scut work for cash under the table while still in high school. I kept at it and one day someone handed me a wrench and told me to remove a part. Pretty soon I was actually working on cars, but it took a long time. I advanced due to attrition - someone above me would quit and my duties would expand to fill the gap.
Who the fuck after spend money in school want to start at the bottom. Truck drivers make far more money in a way shorter amount of time. Like fuck that. Pride doesn't pay bills or feed you. Also when you start at the bottom, none of the uppers want to teach shit unless you submit being treated like a fking dog and take bs. Grab CDL go drive a truck. Make money.
As a tech for thirty years and a shop owner for almost twenty these technicians need to get paid, my techs start at $25 per hour I'm willing to pay more although you have to give me more. Nowadays you can't check tire pressures without having to reset an on-board computer which take extra time.