AXANAR: ORIGINS (PART ONE) - The never to be made AXANAR feature-length STAR TREK Fan Film.

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  • @wtk6069
    @wtk6069 Před 4 lety +446

    If there were any sane people at CBS and Paramount, they would have hired these guys to make the movie officially. It's the Star Trek fans wanted.

    • @chuckintexas_1437
      @chuckintexas_1437 Před 4 lety +32

      YEAH, but Turf-doms, fiefdoms, and $$ SELFISHNESSES got in the way, THEN came WOKE, and - as it ALWAYS does to ANYTHING it touches - WOKE KILLED CBS S-T.
      THIS would have been the IDEAL ANSWER, had they not been blinded by their own selfishnesses, then SPITTING in the faces of their FAN BASE ( which they COULD have expanded on) with "lifestyles", Mary Sue's, etc., and THEN outright COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS, all powered by WOKE.
      If we can SOMEHOW shed the WOKE, etc., maybe THIS could fill the VOID Piccard was HOPED to band-aid over.
      We'll see.

    • @richardpoynton4026
      @richardpoynton4026 Před 4 lety +21

      Movie studios are all about money - not fans. Just look at what Disney did to StarWars, then look at some of the fan made StarWars clips..... 😔

    • @n43510
      @n43510 Před 4 lety +17

      @@richardpoynton4026 Not just about money ... ego and money. In that order.
      If it were just about money, we'd have better movies because pleasing the fans would be profitable.

    • @5ddrones568
      @5ddrones568 Před 4 lety +16

      The problem these people like Kurtzman are all EGO and no talent. It has to be there idea. Hire people who are creative not your buddies like Kurtsman. I would hired these guys as consultants and writers. Then we would come up with something original and epic that the fans wanted. The realism of Battlestar Galactica in the prime star trek universe ✨. What a missed opportunity 😕

    • @pepegalego
      @pepegalego Před 4 lety +5

      @@n43510 No, money, money and ...let me think, ah yes, MONEY. Axanar is a movie/show that would be interesting to us 50+, but today? No, it would bomb in the CZcams/tiktok/Black-Panther-is-the-best-movie-ever generation.

  • @quantumac
    @quantumac Před 4 lety +54

    It's wonderful to see Star Trek made by folks who actually love Star Trek... as opposed to CBS/Paramount...

    • @wastedproductions45
      @wastedproductions45 Před 3 lety

      That's what happens when you try to profit off a property you don't own.

    • @isaiasjoe5795
      @isaiasjoe5795 Před 3 lety

      I know Im kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to stream newly released movies online?

    • @terrancejacob6567
      @terrancejacob6567 Před 3 lety +1

      @Isaias Joe ehh I use Flixportal. you can find it by googling =) -terrance

    • @isaiasjoe5795
      @isaiasjoe5795 Před 3 lety +1

      @Terrance Jacob thank you, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :) I appreciate it!

    • @terrancejacob6567
      @terrancejacob6567 Před 3 lety +1

      @Isaias Joe Happy to help :)

  • @DWNicolo
    @DWNicolo Před 4 lety +131

    Man oh man, what could have been.

    • @trinidadtheislandman4065
      @trinidadtheislandman4065 Před 4 lety +12

      They were fools! This could have been the crown jewel of CBS All Access! 😁🤙

    • @chuckintexas_1437
      @chuckintexas_1437 Před 4 lety +4

      @@trinidadtheislandman4065 - Yeah, but Turf-doms, fiefdoms, and $$ SELFISHNESSES got in the way, THEN came WOKE, and - as it ALWAYS does to ANYTHING it touches - WOKE KILLED CBS S-T.
      THIS would have been the IDEAL ANSWER, had they not been blinded by their own selfishnesses, then SPITTING in the faces of their FAN BASE ( which they COULD have expanded on) with "lifestyles", Mary Sue's, etc., and THEN outright COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENTS, all powered by WOKE.
      If we can SOMEHOW shed the WOKE, etc., maybe THIS could fill the VOID Piccard was HOPED to band-aid over.
      We'll see.

    • @johnnybarfield4402
      @johnnybarfield4402 Před 4 lety

      CBS are a bunch of greedy leftist bastard ' s.

    • @DanielSan1776
      @DanielSan1776 Před 4 lety

      That’s a good name
      I approve

  • @benrussell-gough1201
    @benrussell-gough1201 Před 4 lety +37

    The thing that strikes me here is the *passion* of the artist - Talking about having fun working for *months* on a single scene, talking about his artistic inspirations and talking about the new things he wanted to bring to the genre. This is the difference between good or competent artist and an *excellent* artist. This is, IMO at least, what modern Trek lacks - Passion. It's a 9-5 job done by people who want their check at the end of the month. They have no love for the art or the franchise and no desire to do anything but tick the boxes identified by marketing.
    CBS would have been smart if they'd bought up this script, absorbed the team, finished the show (as an AU special if necessary) and then found some way to use this passion themselves. However, modern corporate entertainment distrusts passion - It may get in the way of profit and pleasing their internal audience (in the entertainment industry) enough to get awards. Which is sad and pretty much everything that is wrong with not just Trek but popular entertainment as a whole.

  • @robertx1603
    @robertx1603 Před 4 lety +170

    I am speechless.. this is incredible stuff.
    Definitely the sort of thing that could re-ignite interest in Star Trek.

  • @saquist
    @saquist Před 4 lety +53

    Axanar would save Star Trek. CBS should take this up to save the fandom

    • @jerrypadilla4384
      @jerrypadilla4384 Před 4 lety +2

      Forget CBS!
      Under the new re-emerge, PARAMOUNT should work, to get Axanar, to save the fandom.... and show the world, what hacks, JJ Abrams and Kurtzman, truly are.

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage Před 4 lety +1

      Actually, I think Axanar was the catalyst which fragmented Star Trek.
      Not really convinced that Axanar "saved" Trek or Trek fandom at all.
      But then again, sometimes a patient is so diseased that something has to be amputated to ensure survival (and a chance for future growth) ... so maybe Axanar will turn as Trek's salvation, in hindsight, in the long run.

    • @jerrypadilla4384
      @jerrypadilla4384 Před 4 lety +6

      @@pwnmeisterage
      No....it didnt fragment.
      It showed us, that everything that STD producers said was "Outdated" and "Looked bad" and was corrected by STD wasn't! The old styles and designs still worked great.
      It showed us, that despite spending millions of dollars an episode, with lens flares and heavy use of camera angles, like those used in 1960's Batman episodes, a simple approach worked better. It showed us, that good writing, over SJW committee compositions, was superior, as well!
      Fans loved Trek.
      SJW's, don't.
      It's as simple as that.

    • @saquist
      @saquist Před 4 lety +2

      @@pwnmeisterage Axanar was just a bump in the road. Trek had already been gaffes by Enterprise, and JJ Abrams in 3 bad or mediocre films. He and others didn't have the vision or knowledge to turn Trek into a Franchise like the MCU. They took Star Treks Cinematic Universe and promptly threw it away....just like Star Wars.

    • @robertgaines-tulsa
      @robertgaines-tulsa Před 3 lety +1

      This is not the Trek CBS wanted us to have. It would have been Trek done right, and they couldn't have Axanar doing that.

  • @floaty10
    @floaty10 Před 4 lety +159

    That small segment felt more authentic than anything I’ve seen in Picard to date.Having no shots on board either ship actually enhanced the drama and eeriness, I felt. Well done.

    • @pepegalego
      @pepegalego Před 4 lety +1

      It is CGI...that could be a video game.

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews Před 4 lety +1

      @@pepegalego Like the special effects in almost every new science fiction movie. It's almost all CGI now.

  • @warhorse03826
    @warhorse03826 Před 4 lety +224

    they should make the whole movie...just for the cast. show it once, to everyone that's worked on it...and then store it on a server...
    and then "oh my god we've been hacked by the russians! and they've released the whole thing!"

    • @EnterpriseC14
      @EnterpriseC14 Před 4 lety +11

      But then they can't make money off it like selling Axanar branded products. Like they got sued for in the first place.

    • @pepegalego
      @pepegalego Před 4 lety +6

      The whole problem is that they want to make cash off it. I would love to see the whole movie, but we never will.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain Před 4 lety +3

      BECAUSE Klingons ARE THE SOVIET UNION LOL.

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Před 4 lety

      No. Just, no.

    • @laughingatu3699
      @laughingatu3699 Před 4 lety +1

      @@EnterpriseC14 the people making it don't want anything it's the people stopping them, so yeah that is kinda the point

  • @Ben1159a
    @Ben1159a Před 4 lety +235

    So sad Axanar never got finished.

    • @STAntares
      @STAntares Před 4 lety +10

      Did anyone tell that Alec? The Axanar channel looks like they don't know.

    • @MrChupacabra555
      @MrChupacabra555 Před 4 lety +11

      Yes.
      It was really the only Trek 'Prequel' that did its best to stick to established canon (although yes, they did have Richard Hatch as a 'ridge headed' Klingon, but I was willing to overlook that as 'Rule of Cool' ^_^).
      Unfortunately, it truly does seem there were some monetary shenanigans going on behind the scene, but I still feel the real reason CBS/Paramount brought down the 'ban hammer' was because they didn't want any competition/confusion with their own prequel.

    • @EnterpriseC14
      @EnterpriseC14 Před 4 lety +5

      Axanar should have finished at the 1st successful kickstarter, and ended there. NOOOO they had to bring us the lawsuit because they were greedy bastards.

    • @TSR1776
      @TSR1776 Před 4 lety +2

      @@STAntares No kidding, wasnt part 2 due out by july before covid delayed it?

    • @plugsocket9432
      @plugsocket9432 Před 4 lety +4

      @@STAntares From what I understand is Alec is shortening the Axanar film from 2 hours to 30 minutes as stated by CBS Star Trek fan film guidelines. The 30 minute Axanar short film will be out 2021 due to Covid-19.

  • @saquist
    @saquist Před 4 lety +11

    I can absolutely attest to Tobias almost telepathic ability to read what an artist has in mind. We collaborated on The Enigma Class and despite a minor language barrier we spoke in images better than we could in the written form. He's a true artist. I cherish every bit of his embellishment he contributed to Enigma. Many of the changes I wouldn't have added but now I see as part of the Collab effort. He puts his mark on the design and I think because he's so experienced and talented in his art he knows what you want but he also knows what would be better...It was like Trek was the only language we needed.

  • @latinoguy483
    @latinoguy483 Před 4 lety +57

    As a long time star trek fan this would have been dream come true, the effects are awe inspiring its a damn shame that cbs is just too damn greedy to care for it star trek fan base. CBS can learn from you guy on how to do star trek right. This was bitter sweet thank you for sharing this with us.

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Před 4 lety +1

      If you are a long term Star Trek fan, the last thing you should want is this. You think CBS defines greed? Enter Alec Peters, creator of Axanar: Arrogant, deceitful, their.

    • @latinoguy483
      @latinoguy483 Před 4 lety +3

      @@SumDumGy there isnt too many options for trek out there yes he is greedy but lesser evil than cbs. I dont like the things alec peters has done but in the end im here to watch star trek or something close to it.

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Před 4 lety

      @latinoguy483, there are a lot of options out there for Star Trek, depending on taste. There are 28 years worth of live series, an animated series, 10 films, a slew of fan film and series passion projects and then everything else made over the last eleven years, depending on what you prefer to watch.
      I’d rather there be nothing made at all right now than support anything produced by the camps of Abrams, Kurtznonbinary or Peters. Frankly, I don’t understand why Robert is making these videos in light of how Peters treated him. The purpose of romoting Peters here baffles me.
      Why people keep pointing fingers at CBS is beyond me.

    • @fluxstudio7569
      @fluxstudio7569 Před 3 lety

      @@SumDumGy CBS and TREK = CANCER!!

  • @carmelopappalardo8477
    @carmelopappalardo8477 Před 4 lety +37

    This broke my heart. I enjoyed the movie Free Enterprise but it was Axanar that really had me follow RMB.

  • @galaxianstudios8934
    @galaxianstudios8934 Před 3 lety +11

    There has never been something an entertainment company has ever done that has made me this furious. Regardless of that though, I commend you for speaking without any anger but with the passion you had when you envisioned this project. Thank you for these beautiful shots and breakdown

  • @voyager202000
    @voyager202000 Před 4 lety +19

    This is the movie or the series that should have been made, supported and financed by CBS! It’s because they didn’t want to be shown up by people with more imagination, talent, and skills than those getting paid megabucks to produce the crap like Discovery!! Axanar had depth as a story, a SOLID cast and crew, and a storyline that was literally a bridge between Enterprise and the original series! This was a feature that needs to be finished and unhampered by CBS! But we are talking if CBS was logical and wanted to do the right thing! This series did on a fraction of the budget CBS had, and bought a story that gripped fans around the world and wanting more! Yet CBS wants to squash this as hard as they can, which make us fans beyond furious!

  • @theomimesis
    @theomimesis Před 4 lety +243

    Looks like Axanar would have been a really fun film.

    • @icecold9511
      @icecold9511 Před 4 lety +47

      That's why they blocked it. Far better than the trash CBS turns out

    • @TroyPacelli
      @TroyPacelli Před 4 lety +13

      @@icecold9511 Exactly. Spot on.

    • @SamSchott1
      @SamSchott1 Před 4 lety +10

      Keep a good thought, everyone. It can still happen. Contracts expire. Eventually, maybe in only a year or two, Paramount will be free of Bad Reboot and Hidden Agendoor and that will allow producers who know and care about Star Trek to create.

    • @chuckintexas_1437
      @chuckintexas_1437 Před 4 lety +5

      @@SamSchott1 HOPE so.

    • @EnterpriseC14
      @EnterpriseC14 Před 4 lety +3

      Yaaaa if they finished it after their fist kickstarter, not the 3rd one that got them sued by CBS.

  • @Renegadegamer2001
    @Renegadegamer2001 Před 4 lety +15

    I would've found Axanar fun, I am 18 and grew up on Star Trek, thanks for keeping the fandom a float.

  • @dougwhiddon8227
    @dougwhiddon8227 Před 4 lety +35

    Make the movie. Break it up into documentaries like this fans can edit it back into a film.

  • @kevinoverbeck4250
    @kevinoverbeck4250 Před 4 lety +14

    It was going to be an 'Old Trek' story. It really had an 'Enterprise' era feel to it.

  • @Problembeing
    @Problembeing Před 4 lety +24

    Beautiful. That’s the Star Trek we like

  • @annoyed707
    @annoyed707 Před 4 lety +4

    The gas giant fight reminds me of the encounter between the original White Star with the Shadow battle crab.

    • @SamSchott1
      @SamSchott1 Před 4 lety +1

      You are awarded Cool Points for the Babylon 5 reference. I was reminded of that as well. Yet this is unique enough to stand on its own.

  • @odojang
    @odojang Před 4 lety +28

    Just those shots plainly show that Axanar would have made the entirety of Kurtzmantrek look like amateur fanfic. Heh even as is, it actually does. No wonder CBS shot it down and with it every hope of seeing anything like this labor of love from true fans.
    Getting your inspiration from 2001/2010 A Space Odyssey, STTMP and Alien is the right way to go. It is very telling how this would have made Star Trek goes the next step in visuals without looking like Star Wars and at the same time still in continuity with Classic Trek; neither pew pew plane dogfights nor seagoing protacted warfare with obvious tactical elements, making the battle a story of it's own within the story.
    Kudos to you Sir. You restore faith in Trek fans that there are people out there still true to the vision and yet able to boldly bring it forward.

    • @odojang
      @odojang Před 4 lety +2

      @@kruleworld Well he is on record stating two things:
      1- He is not a fan of Star Trek and never watched it. (stated during an interview about Abrams 09 movie)
      2- He does not care about Star Trek but about using Star Trek as a platform for his socio-political agenda. (stated during Comicon Star Trek panel this year)
      On a side note, he was hired and offered what seem to be an insane 5 years contract of lordship over all things Trek by Les Moonves, the former CBS CEO who is on record as not liking sci-fi, cannot even tell the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars, and the one who pulled the plug on ENT in 2005 when it was actually improving and still had solid ratings.
      Kurtzman is also the business partner of J. J. Abrams who is only interested in the merchandizing side of Star Trek (also one on record as not liking or watching or even understanding Star Trek and wanted to dumb it down for those like him). As Abrams failed to force CBS in stopping merchandizing of classic Trek to better push his own failing one, Kurtzman is obviously working at erasing classic Trek so as to leave only his own for merchandizing purposes; hence why they went for a prequel with their very first show, with visuals totally disconnected with Star Trek, and again doing so with their next planned one Strange New Worlds.
      His production team also is on record this year saying Star Trek Picard was a deliberate effort to deconstruct the character of Picard and his TNG legacy. Lower Decks is currently doing the same effort with TNG in particular and the whole of Star Trek canon as well, flooding asinine references to it while showcasing characters, behaviors and situations completely anti-trek.
      He may not get it, but one thing he does get is that he must do anything BUT Star Trek with his Trek rip-offs to achieve his goals.

    • @michaelplatts8052
      @michaelplatts8052 Před 4 lety

      @@odojang Kurtzman seems to be a classic case of getting the job because of who you know. If he had to operate on the premise that most of the rest of us do in day-to-day life, like "What have you done for me lately", he'd have been exposed and dropped pretty quick.
      Number 2, dunno what the studio execs were thinking, imagining that they wouldn't lose mountains of money on the nonsense that's being produced today. Don't they have focus and research groups and all that other fun stuff to help them decide what they make? Did some group actually come back with the response that audiences would just *LOVE* a sci-fi series heavy with social justice issues and virtue signaling? Horrendous decision making.

    • @odojang
      @odojang Před 4 lety

      @@michaelplatts8052 Well for one thing, people with an agenda always think what they believe is right, that everyone would and should agree with them. If they don't, it must be shoved down their throats... or reject them utterly if they still dissent.
      They did indeed have focus groups and test audiences. Each time they were told what they did was utter garbage. The merchandizing companies dropped them, unable to sell anything from it, because it was garbage. Fans and audience's abysmal ratings and scathing comments proved that it was garbage. Distributors rejected their new projects and opted out of their contracts with them, because it was garbage. Even the streaming service they served as the flagship of, failed and disappeared, further proof it was garbage.
      Why do they persist in making that garbage then? Answer is above.
      But also, we must not forget the main actors in this disaster:
      1- CBS didn't create Star Trek (NBC did), never knew what to do with it (or care). Only the (before Kurtzman) very lucrative merchandizing mattered to them. To get more money out of an IP they didn't use, they came up with the ''alternate licence'' for Abrams' own STINOs (Star Trek In Name Only) Kurtzman is using to disfigure Star Trek and legally kidnap it.
      2- J. J. Abrams stated that he never watched Star Trek and never liked it because he never could understand it. So he opted to dumb it down and turn it into his demo reel to pitch for his self-professed true love, Star Wars (we saw what he did with his ''true love'' afterwards). Abrams cared only for this and for the merchandizing. As his merchandizing stint totally failed, he moved on right after the first film (he was forced by contract to make the 2nd one and to produce the 3rd). But he left in his wake lucrative pop-corn flicks (because fan attrition) that made people beleive his starwarshy style and dumb kid storytelling was ''Nu Trek.''
      3- Enter his screenwriter for these STINOs, Alex Kurtzman, who stated he also never liked or watched Star Trek, as proven by his moronic screenplays of Abrams first two movies. He is also the man who killed the Transformer franchise, the Sony Spider-Man franchise and the Universal Monsterverse with his incompetence as a writer and producer. This year, he stated at Comicon that he does not want to promote Star Trek but use Star Trek as a platform to promote his politics.
      4- How come then did he manage to kidnap Star Trek? Enter Les Moonves, former CEO of CBS, notorious for 2 things (beside his current legal problems that ousted him from his job); he hates sci-fi, to the point of not even being able to tell Star Trek from Star Wars; he terminated ENT on it's 4th season when it still had decent viewership and was improving. He found in Kurtzman a kindred spirit (hence ousting Brian Fuller, true Trek veteran and fan) and gave him an iron-clad 5 years contract of total control over all things Trek.
      The circle of Hell is now complete. And we, Trek fans, and Star Trek itself, are trapped in it ever since.

  • @michaelkeller5008
    @michaelkeller5008 Před 4 lety +11

    Great inside-infos you gave us... Loved the Klingon Hymn there! :)
    It's a shame what CBS and Viacom have done to the franchise, especially the Fan Films and Series.
    What they gave us in exchange ( STD and StarTP) wasn't even CLOSE to StarTrek.

  • @venomousheart2298
    @venomousheart2298 Před 4 lety +34

    I haven't seen Starship Combat sequences as good since that whole Star Trek Motion Pictures 1-3. Not just the ship combat but combined with cinematic score and also the unfinished acting sequences. Its really too bad CBS couldn't learn a thing or two from people with great idea's. An interesting contrast is that Axanar had the great idea's and storyline but not the full budget as compared to CBS who lacks the ideas and storyline.

  • @dal5x5
    @dal5x5 Před 4 lety +14

    Instead CBS squashed this and we got Discovery 🙄

  • @toddchamberlain6507
    @toddchamberlain6507 Před 4 lety +5

    That's spectacular! It's kinda neat with no live action interior shots... my imagination is free to fill in the blanks... to write my own scene. Garth decisively giving orders, while simultaneously trying to hail the Klingons and cease hostilities... and Kang hearing Garth's hails, yet so bloodthirsty, that he pursues Garth to their own doom. AWESOME.

  • @lanceripplinger8352
    @lanceripplinger8352 Před 4 lety +17

    Dang it, the forbidden fruit that we never got.

  • @kennethst.bernard2710
    @kennethst.bernard2710 Před 4 lety +20

    That was a beautiful sequence. I especially loved the emotional impact that the music added to the scene. That would be a great way to begin a movie. Thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @theenragedklingon5099
    @theenragedklingon5099 Před 3 lety +1

    Only Babylon 5 actually used this level of creativity so that you felt you were in a three-dimensional space! Brilliant work, absolutely brilliant!

  • @capester7278
    @capester7278 Před 4 lety +47

    Beautifully done and far outstrips the $400 million of bad Star Trek we have been given by CBS...

    • @slagit
      @slagit Před 4 lety +4

      Just blows it away!

    • @PatriceBoivin
      @PatriceBoivin Před 4 lety +1

      Apart from the music in (silent) space, I like what you did. I remember the SaveTrek campaign in the mid 1990s, mostly on Geocities sites (LOL). People were annoyed at DS9 being a soap opera. Producers seemed to see the franchise as a cash cow, most people didn't care about the Star Trek Universe they just wanted an entertaining show to watch every week. A few dedicated fans were adamant that it ought to stay on track but they were outnumbered. I for one was annoyed when for ST:TMP they jumbled the galaxy map, it no longer looked like the one in the original series and its Technical Manual. Paramount had jettisoned its relationship with the Amarillo Design Bureau. 99% of people didn't care. Similar to when the Jackson LOTR movie deals were made, I.C.E. lost its ability to publish Middle Earth modules which were very well made. Money money money. Tolkien probably would not have approved.

    • @slagit
      @slagit Před 4 lety +6

      @@PatriceBoivin Funny never thought of DS9 as being anything like a soap opera and man it towers above any ST were are getting now, except for some fan films which have more passion for ST than CBS!

    • @naneek2
      @naneek2 Před 4 lety +2

      @@PatriceBoivin I always liked DS9. Does anyone remember the april fools day gags on the old official star trek website?
      Around 2003 or 04 they wrote a great april fools day headline news article about how deep space nine was going be brought back to air alongside Enterprise. but it had been retooled as a soap opera, called "as the wormhole turns."
      I thought it was pretty funny. They said the end of season 1 cliff hanger would be that they would use "the orb of time" as a plot device for the series to cross over with the long running soap opera "as the world turns" and that the entire cast of "as the world turns" would be recurring characters in season 2.
      I thought that was a pretty funny way of responding to the "soap opera" criticism.

    • @bobbrown5460
      @bobbrown5460 Před 4 lety +1

      There was a commercial right before the final cut and it was for all access and discracery ahahahaha fing kurtzman fing cbs

  • @edmclaughlin4923
    @edmclaughlin4923 Před 3 lety

    Dude. You are one of the most creative people I have seen. Don't listen to people who don't understand Star Trek. You are a genius. This video lacked music during the sequences and I JUST learned how important that is to the completed product. I have gained new respect for the creative process. Thank you.

  • @chromabotia
    @chromabotia Před 4 lety +4

    Just a beautiful sequence! Top notch CGI, love the full use of the Z axis and the way the camera POV moves freely around the ships. The Klingon hymn turned out so well! Thank you, and everyone so very much!

  • @ralphreinhardt6020
    @ralphreinhardt6020 Před 4 lety +7

    This looks fantastic!! We could've had this greatness instead of bad reboot. Damn.

  • @firedad7341
    @firedad7341 Před 4 lety +5

    This is so much better than CBS. I am more excited by this coming out than anything CBS has.

  • @SandraNelson063
    @SandraNelson063 Před rokem

    I'm so glad that Richard got to hear this heart rending hymn. This does explain why I feel so passionate about giving Kharn justice. He was fighting to defend his people, their honor, their rights and dignity. The greedy humans had taken Klingon territory like spoiled brats. Brazenly grabbing up Klingon planets like candy. With no regard for the consequences of taking what wasn't free for the taking.
    Is it any wonder that the Klingon empire , a people who had a fierce belief in honor, keeping your word, obeying the law, loving your family.....is it any wonder that they rose up in fury when after repeated warnings the humans refused to return the stolen planets? The Klingons were simply trying to take back what was THEIRS.
    I would have followed Kharn into battle with a song in my heart.

  • @bernieeod57
    @bernieeod57 Před 4 lety +3

    In my novel "Axanar: The Destroyers" I have the "Klunkers" Operating in Triads. 3 Ship formations with a D Series in the lead and a BOP or Raptor on the flanks. D-6's can also use older D-4 and D-5's as support ships. The Starfleet Destroyers end up copying the Triad formation and use the "Thatch Weave" To compensate for the Destroyers weak shields

  • @kedst2000
    @kedst2000 Před 4 lety +1

    This kills me watching this. I saw this when this originally dropped, but hearing your description of the approach you were taking makes my heart ache. Everything that Axanar WAS SUPPOSED TO BE or should have been is how I picture Star Trek should be presented. You nailed it Rob!

  • @buddywhatshisname522
    @buddywhatshisname522 Před 4 lety +6

    I admit I wept a little knowing that this film will never be made whole.

  • @thunderstar6997
    @thunderstar6997 Před 4 lety +1

    I grew up watching TOS. I was 3 year old in 1975 watching the reruns with my Mother and sister that watched it in the 60's. I was a Star Trek fan from that point on. As my progress of my love for Trek grew, I played FASA Starfleet Battles and the Four Years War. I was excited seeing what you were trying to bring to Trek fans. Thank you for being you and as you would say "We park our shuttles in the same shuttle bay".

  • @iro6758
    @iro6758 Před 4 lety +6

    Prelude was, arguably, the best Star Trek that I've ever seen...
    It's heartbreaking that we never got this as a result of the sort of people who will never appreciate what Star Trek was supposed to mean.

  • @runedrejer8094
    @runedrejer8094 Před 3 lety +2

    Since THIS is way more Star Trek, and Canon, than ST Discovery, it should be a movie

  • @satinbarbi
    @satinbarbi Před 4 lety +18

    You were making real Star Trek that people would want to see. The people making garbage like STD could never tolerate that.

  • @mrb00gedyb00
    @mrb00gedyb00 Před 4 lety +1

    ok, that last 5 minutes almost made me cry. This is the Trek i want. Everything about that was perfect.

  • @bigsteve9641
    @bigsteve9641 Před 4 lety +26

    Nice work, felt more like Star Trek should be not the Star Trek we have now.

  • @Xpektahdeth
    @Xpektahdeth Před 4 lety +1

    I truly believe that had this project been allowed to see full completion,it would have rivaled and in MANY ways outshined discovery...the show that they were afraid axanar would have outdone. Bloody shame this was not allowed to see the life it deserved. Part of me is still hoping that if the rights to star trek can ever finally be under one roof,those that have it will have the heart to allow axanar to be completed.

  • @colonelguile-957
    @colonelguile-957 Před 4 lety +28

    Could've, Would've, Shoulda.

    • @citomp1240
      @citomp1240 Před 4 lety

      What would the Klingons do?

    • @colonelguile-957
      @colonelguile-957 Před 4 lety

      Something Stupid, and then they'd get themselves Killed.

  • @nnmmnmmnmnnm
    @nnmmnmmnmnnm Před 4 lety +1

    I had heard of Axanar but never seen any of it - I am utterly blown away. Instead of this we get Picard and Disco. This is real Star Trek; such a shame it had to get cancelled.

  • @sabreeemneely
    @sabreeemneely Před 4 lety +3

    So cool, thanks Bobby

  • @deniseherud
    @deniseherud Před 4 lety

    Beautifully rendered👍🏻💐 It’s a crime that the Powers that Be don’t put this level of caring, interest and effort into the franchise anymore. You’re a credit to fans everywhere. I’m really disappointed with the the owners of the franchise. The day they forcibly removed the fan-made Enterprise D virtual tour, was the day I gave up any future franchise shows....that virtual look inside the ship was the digital equivalent of the Mona Lisa...How many human-hours went into that, how much thought and consideration to go deck by deck to create that masterpiece..and to have it just ripped away is unforgivable. This movie we’ll never get, falls into that category for me...an absolute masterpiece, ignored by studios. Even though those idiots didn’t take to it, the fans appreciate your hard work.

  • @chrisbomber101
    @chrisbomber101 Před 4 lety +4

    Such a shame we never got this all togther as a film. Damn you CBS for putting a stop it AXANAR!

    • @TheSeper
      @TheSeper Před 4 lety

      Cbs never stopped it. Not even once Alec could of finished it he stalled it until they were out of money.

    • @astralwerks4
      @astralwerks4 Před 4 lety +2

      Damn you Axanar for breaking copyright law and trying to make $$ off something you don't own!

  • @Mikehealey27974
    @Mikehealey27974 Před 4 lety +2

    Shows what can be done by people who really love and understand Star Trek.

    • @michaelplatts8052
      @michaelplatts8052 Před 4 lety

      And it only looks better when put up against the material of agenda-driven people who have no clue.

  • @TheWarAtHome
    @TheWarAtHome Před 4 lety +15

    100x better than discovery, and I'm not even mentioning lower decks :(

  • @Nightbringer2000
    @Nightbringer2000 Před 4 lety +2

    Prelude to Axanar was better than anything Discovery or Picard did, in terms of feeling like Trek and general quality of storytelling.

  • @CruderQuotient1
    @CruderQuotient1 Před 4 lety +8

    This is badass

  • @bklynboy9999
    @bklynboy9999 Před 2 lety

    It's criminal that they weren't allowed to finish this. Fantastic stuff.

  • @DarqeDestroyer
    @DarqeDestroyer Před 4 lety +6

    Watching this gives me an urge to fire up my email client and write some hate mail to CBS. But then I figured, who of any importance would ever read it? Some nameless clerk would read the first line and delete it, so why waste my time.

    • @venomousheart2298
      @venomousheart2298 Před 4 lety +1

      I just think with their corporate culture they just don't get it. I remember reading something about the start of the Discovery series and after some show sequences how they forgot to add the ranking strips to the officers sleeves which had to be CGi back in which just shows their mindset. They may own the name but lack the vision and understanding of the Star Trek culture.

  • @Mentatskillz
    @Mentatskillz Před 4 lety

    More thought, care, and respect put into the work that this 21 minute video represents than we have seen since the Jar-Jar-Verse began. For shame, CBS. Such a wasted opportunity.

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200 Před 4 lety +7

    Star Trek 's current "owners", an example of low skill, poor creativity, privileged, vested, big money kids running the ship to crush depth.

  • @dadrocha7741
    @dadrocha7741 Před 3 lety

    This is the spark of hope that keeps fans of cannon connected to Star Trek.

  • @marcjustmarc6990
    @marcjustmarc6990 Před 4 lety +6

    so much more Star Trek in this unaired/unfinished sequence than in the latest two pretend star trek series combined (you know which ones i'm talking about)

  • @davidcox1508
    @davidcox1508 Před 3 lety

    THIS is 'TREK' PERFECTION!!! CBS and Paramount are DESTROYING what we all LOVE so MUCH!!!
    AXANAR LIVES!!!

  • @jamesmcgrath1952
    @jamesmcgrath1952 Před 4 lety +15

    I really wanted to see this film made. They sued and stopped it only for themselves to produce garbage.

    • @emknight84
      @emknight84 Před 4 lety +1

      Actual Garbage.......a hot stinking mass of shit from Discovery to Picard

    • @bohican
      @bohican Před 4 lety +1

      @@emknight84 Pike saved the second season, sort of... Let's hope that the new Pike series is worth it.

  • @bryannunya6187
    @bryannunya6187 Před 3 lety

    it seriously hurts my feelings things are the way they are. What a labor of love. I really hope one day we get to see this story told as it should be.

  • @Herr_Wagner_
    @Herr_Wagner_ Před 4 lety +4

    this looks really good

  • @badmojomojo501
    @badmojomojo501 Před 4 lety

    It's always fun to listen to people who have an obvious passion for the work they do ..this guy ..you can hear the smiles in his face .
    Looked fantastic guys ..I would hire you in a heart beat!

  • @richardwestberry6868
    @richardwestberry6868 Před 4 lety +4

    Pity, it looks like it would have been a much better show than what we received in the show discovery

  • @t4rv0r60
    @t4rv0r60 Před 4 lety

    man, seeing all this work not getting to resolve just makes me sad.
    but at the same time, i am happy, happy that there are people out there, who think star trek and also think differently. take the best of all the sci fi that you can imagine and put it together in a way, that isnt just "rip off". instead it becomes omage, the highest form of respect to a francise that i can think of.
    we got star wars, we got 2001, we got BSG. just beautiful
    maybe some day...some day we will get this.
    "so say we all"
    12:17 yeah also gas giant creatures would have diverted the attention away from the chase.

  • @Azphreal
    @Azphreal Před 4 lety +7

    The fact the star trek is dying on CBS maybe they should PAY you to make this film for them.

  • @darxcyber
    @darxcyber Před 4 lety

    the passion the team had for this project, the vision shown on display, the depth of the axanar story, this is the trek us fans screamed out for! CBS are very short sighted and obviously put out inferior projects in comparison. If they had the sense, they should have approached you guys and either funded the project under their banner so you can get the full film done and show it on their platform (lesser of two evils?) or brought the team in to assist with realigning the flops that were disco and picard into stories worthy of the canon.
    this is both a fantastic showing of what you guys created and a huge huge shame that it was not completed in all it's glory. its a trek masterpiece!!

  • @DanielMartinez-lz3ot
    @DanielMartinez-lz3ot Před 4 lety +4

    the music reminds me of Battle Star Galactica, not a bad thing.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar Před 3 lety +1

      It's in the frackin' ship!

    • @DanielMartinez-lz3ot
      @DanielMartinez-lz3ot Před 3 lety

      @@TalesOfWar it's not a ripoff of Bear McCreary's music but a nod to his battlestar work. "it's in the frackin' ship!"

    • @matteodemattia
      @matteodemattia Před 3 lety

      that's why in my opinion this is not as "trekky" as people think. Many here are just downplaying a show like Discovery and then they are happy to fully embrace a war story like this one.

    • @DanielMartinez-lz3ot
      @DanielMartinez-lz3ot Před 3 lety

      @@matteodemattia what? you can't "down play" crap! I'm sitting here for ten minutes trying to figure out how to respond without being insulting, it took longer and I can't. you might be a fan of discovery but it's obvious you are not a fan of Star Trek or Axanar, that's cool, you do you, but swimming against the current by defending discovery is not gonna make you edgy it makes you argumentative. Star Trek is an idea and it's ideas can take many forms while still be Trek at it's heart, discovery doesn't have that, it has been completely reworked by petulant directors and producers that said "we are the future so deal with it" and then they targeted petulant fans that will ensure its demise.

  • @00jdadams
    @00jdadams Před 4 lety

    This looks absolutely amazing! It makes me profoundly sad to know that we will never see this in a final form. This would have been so much better than what CBS and Paramount have put in our face lately.

  • @anonymousposter3570
    @anonymousposter3570 Před 4 lety +9

    FAN FILMS ARE THE ONLY GOOD TREK ON THE SCREEN TODAY.

  • @CaptnBeardy
    @CaptnBeardy Před 4 lety +2

    Seeing someone implement 3 dimensional tactics into Star Trek is beautiful.

  • @LancetFencing
    @LancetFencing Před 4 lety +4

    I really wish you effects guys would depict maneuvering and fighting at warp speed as described in the original series instead of relegating warp to the Star Wars sequel sub light battles

    • @dougwhiddon8227
      @dougwhiddon8227 Před 4 lety +4

      It is established in ST that you can only travel in straight lines at warp speed. To change direction, you have to drop out of warp. So, you can't fight or maneuver in warp. Your weapon fire would have to travel faster than you to hit a target either ahead of you or alongside of you. You could fire weapons at a ship behind you, I suppose. This is the reason the BlackBird was an unarmed spy plane. If it had guns, it would shoot itself down. (Tom Paris, in Voyager says "Faster than light, no left or right" when mentioning that you can't turn in warp)

    • @Acrosurge
      @Acrosurge Před 4 lety +1

      @@dougwhiddon8227 Your example (while it did happen) is contradicted by many examples from a multitude of episodes from the Original Series to TNG to Ds9 to Enterprise in which course corrections are often made at Warp without slowing. We even see it in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home as the rickety Bird of Prey circles the sun at high warp. Voyager itself contradicts your suggestion as even the Kazon are shown attacking Voyager at Warp and maneuvering around her. Likewise, the Borg maneuver into the path of an attacking 8472 ship while both are at warp.
      All these things show that line by Tom Paris to be a canon outlier and not the standard. Maneuvering and fighting at warp are not only possible, but displayed across the Trek canon. Perhaps you are thinking of ship maneuvering and space combat in Star Wars?

    • @LancetFencing
      @LancetFencing Před 4 lety +1

      doug whiddon voyager is riddled with erroneous shit. No it’s not established. There are countless times when TOS fights and maneuvers at warp. I can site multiple examples I can’t tell you how wrong you are about this Warp is not a jump drive or hyper space drive it’s a real spacetime drive! In Star Trek two the wrath of khan Savik orders the helmsman to “project a parabolic course to avoid entering the neutral zone.” Parabolic key word. Just because new special effects need to keep the both ships in the picture frame does not mean they are not maneuvering at warp. In the “Ellan of Troyius” the Enterprise’ warp capability is disabled and is being attacked by the Klingon aggressor at warp. As soon as Scotty restores warp power Kirk says to go to warp speed and to get them out of the solar system because he needs maneuver room. In The ultimate computer the war games are conducted at warp with multiple course changes. There are many more. But I would belabor my point. If your going to talk back at least know what your talking about

    • @LancetFencing
      @LancetFencing Před 4 lety +1

      Ryan Alderfer thank you for knowing what your talking about!

    • @Acrosurge
      @Acrosurge Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@LancetFencingI love starship combat in scifi and Star Trek ship combat in particular. I don't favor how it has been handled post-Enterprise, but I love RBM and Tobias Richter's collaboration here. He manages to make the ships feel large, but still agile and graceful. Hahah, one of my two gripes of this clip is all those disruptor blasts that miss as the Klingon's are pursuing the Aries outside the gas giant's atmosphere. That's a lot of misses for Trek ships at that range. Klingons don't miss (often).
      My other gripe is the FX used for the Klingon ship while it is traveling at warp. I'm just not a fan of the "hyperspace tunnel" effect, even if it is subtle. I prefer the rainbow energized particles (starlines) streaming past the ship's warp field, though it isn't scientifically accurate so far as we know. Just a continuity thing.
      On the whole, I love this work and can't wait to see the other vids in this series.

  • @embott1
    @embott1 Před 4 lety

    Wowza. The 12-year-old Trekker in me is crying. It’s beautiful

  • @RobertWilke
    @RobertWilke Před 4 lety +4

    This should have been made period. Now as to the rest, how close have we been to Axanar over a half decade now. He's constantly selling merch on the hope of getting this done. He screwed up with CBS and it's cost all of us. Granted at the time Les Moonves was a piece of work to. He didn't do any of the fans a favor in combating them. The pitch should have been is Yes we are building a permanent set. Only to be used for these productions. Why don't you join us in making this right. He could have given them a cut and probably gotten it done. What's that saying pride comes before the fall. I think we have a prime example of that here.

  • @AlHaqimBarrett
    @AlHaqimBarrett Před 3 lety +1

    It is a shame that the greed at CBS/Paramount frakked you all over and the fans to boot, but at least we still have Prelude to enjoy. Keep up the great work RMB

  • @SamSchott1
    @SamSchott1 Před 4 lety +4

    Let's hope the powers that be will eventually extract their craniums from their exhaust ports and sign you and the creators of Axanar to make this a mini-series or feature film. You could make a great Start Trek series/film on a decent budget that isn't over-produced or agenda-driven. They'd make bank and begin a new golden age of Star Trek.

  • @BubblegumCrash332
    @BubblegumCrash332 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for sharing this. Makes me so sad we will never see the full film. You guys did the impossible. This is the greatest battle in all of Star Trek!!

  • @tituschow
    @tituschow Před 4 lety +5

    I blame this project for future fan films that will never be made and for Star Trek Continues being killed because of the precedent it set. I don’t mind the project but how it was made is my issue.

  • @lirdoing
    @lirdoing Před 4 lety

    Such a shame this lawsuit halted this lovely production. Hope the recent success of star trek series will make CBS to reconsider! Very inspiring, thanks for these videos!

  • @coloradospacegeek4226
    @coloradospacegeek4226 Před 4 lety +3

    Just think what CBS All Access might be like today if they had embraced the fan film community and made arrangements to bring some of the best fan films -- including Axanar -- into the fold instead of producing and disseminating Kurtzman Drek. If they had tried to cooperate with Peters, Mignona, et al and celebrate the 50th Anniversary with Axanar, Star Trek Continues, etc.?

  • @Vincent-396
    @Vincent-396 Před 4 lety +1

    Beautiful work. I’m sorry it will never be fully realized. What a shame. It was exponentially better than the garbage put out by CBS over the last few years. This felt like the Trek of my youth. Thank you for sharing with us.

  • @endlesswick
    @endlesswick Před 4 lety +6

    That is cool, such a shame, I am sorry. CBS killed the Stage 9 project too. In return they have only given us crap. Fracken suits!

  • @citomp1240
    @citomp1240 Před 4 lety

    I bet I've watched this 50x I love it. This has what other Star Trek attempts lacked and lacked what the failures had. Soul, class and politics.

  • @garyedwards3269
    @garyedwards3269 Před 4 lety +8

    "That Model T you're building the whole car show around is a fine automobile...but I've got this Ferrari concept car I'd like to enter..."
    "Sorry. We're not accepting any more entries at this time."
    "But...people are already crowding around my car and..."
    "NEIN!...VERBOTEN!..NYET!"
    "Ohhh...you don't want my car making your car look..."
    "SECURITY!"

  • @ianlassitter2397
    @ianlassitter2397 Před rokem

    Recently found Axanar on line. Truly awesome. So much has been added . More episodes etc . Really good writing. No idea why paramount doesn’t;t hirer these guys!

  • @davidedens6353
    @davidedens6353 Před 4 lety +11

    why cant CBS do this oh yea i forgot they dont care about star trek just money

    • @cylon1983
      @cylon1983 Před 4 lety +2

      CBS is too busy being politically correct and greedy and in the process destroys a good thing.

    • @numberyellow
      @numberyellow Před 4 lety +5

      I'm not entirely sure they care about money either... the trash being passed off as Star Trek these days is actually losing them tons of money. If they cared about money, they'd ditch that hack Kurtzman, and put someone in charge of Trek, who actually knows wtf they're doing... They'd also do a lot to repair their relationship with the fans, if they ditched those idiotic fan film rules, so that fans could continue telling stories, thus sustaining interest in the brand.

    • @coloradospacegeek4226
      @coloradospacegeek4226 Před 4 lety +1

      Apparently they don't even care about money since they continue to fund the garbage that has lost them viewers and fans and fight the films that fans actually like.

    • @jonathanstewart351
      @jonathanstewart351 Před 4 lety

      If they actually wanted money, the right way to have gone about making it was to get in league with the fans and allow for independent productions to flourish (with underwritten financing as necessary). But they were so possessed with doing something *new* and *different* with the Star Trek brand in order to make a name for themselves that they completely blew it. And now are so far gone that all they can do is look around in a sort of daze and say, "Gee, now what?" The answer is fan films, nitwits! Why not stop trying to be *woke* and start letting people who know what they're doing provide you with the good stuff - since you haven't got a clue as to what the good stuff really is?

    • @brandonpeterman9964
      @brandonpeterman9964 Před 4 lety

      They have to find a way to get out of the contract the former head of CBS gave Kurtzman without losing their shirts before they can start to correct the damage he has wrought.

  • @algiersc9957
    @algiersc9957 Před 4 lety

    I saw the 20 minute intro and I was fully engaged. I was disappointed that it didn't continue. The PTB wondered what happened to the star trek audience; it was their treatment of this movie. The perceived interference with this movie and the prohibition on fan films as a whole had a negative impact on the fans.

  • @karcistvahlae1207
    @karcistvahlae1207 Před 4 lety +5

    One decent Star Trek possibility in two decades and, ofcourse, we get STD (pun intended) instead.

  • @jimmyfischer8170
    @jimmyfischer8170 Před 4 lety

    These scenes and your insights clearly show what a true visionary Director you are with a top notch team of animators.Your very much reminesant of KUBRICK and other greats and the scenes you describe from 2001 and 2010 are some of my favorites too ! STAR TREK needs your talent and passion to survive and Im sure many of the major studios will be lining up to try to contract your services.And when your name is mentioned along side greats like KUBRICK,SPIELBERG,CAMERAON,ect,You will be able to choose whatever film ya want to do.Please return to STAR TREK !!!

  • @edwardwood6532
    @edwardwood6532 Před 4 lety +5

    Seeing what was possible and what Trek has become makes me sad.

    • @cujoedaman
      @cujoedaman Před 4 lety +1

      Star Wars has gone down the same road. Then Terminator, Ghostbusters, Alien franchise, the DCU was DOA (save for a couple good movies), MCU soon to follow now that they've replaced all the main characters with female leads... it's going to get much, much worse. The latest Star Wars game is supposed to be all female leads and all the Empire baddies are white males. The next Star Wars trilogy is supposed to be all "minority lead" with no "war" in Star Wars. All we can hope is that they just let these franchises die instead of keeping them on life support while they writhe in pain, begging to be released.

  • @kurtjk01
    @kurtjk01 Před 4 lety +2

    Lead it into crush depth and then escape? John Sheridan tactic; I approve.

  • @johanwittens7712
    @johanwittens7712 Před 4 lety +3

    But... But... There's no thousands of phaser shots flying around! There's no thousands of explosions! There's no zillion fighters and shuttles whizzing about! And there's no magic rotating mushroom drive! Everything is so clear to follow and so tension filled instead of chaos everywhere in every shot! No one would ever have liked this at all!!!!

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 Před 3 lety

    The score creates a tense atmosphere of impending doom for the NCC. More emotion in 2mins of fan film than 3 seasons of Discovery. Well done all

  • @SuperBurgerLord
    @SuperBurgerLord Před 4 lety +5

    Maybe if you had some main characters crying in multiple scenes, CBS would have let you all finish the movie.

    • @cachos-story-lab
      @cachos-story-lab Před 4 lety +1

      Yes makes sense, an episode about how Burnham weeps, shouts and plans a mutiny because her replicated eggs taste funny.
      Next episode we spend half of the episode recaping the previous episode only to go over it again from the other characters point of view each crying at some point often with no explanation.
      Finally it all culminates on a third recap episode where we only see the crying bits then have a jarring cut where they are all at the bridge. They declare mutiny for one minute, then ban together to exterminate a few friendly species, only to break down and cry again because their uniforms make them look fat.
      If they did that, I'm sure CBS would approve

    • @SuperBurgerLord
      @SuperBurgerLord Před 4 lety +2

      @@cachos-story-lab Expect to get a call from the show runner asking you for a script.

  • @sigmacademy
    @sigmacademy Před 3 lety

    I love the dynamic movement of the starships - flying as you said, on multiple axis in a way that a starship would when it had no restrictions on how it could move or where it could go, and moving in erratic, non-linear paths very much like the same maneuver convoys had to throw off the targeting of ships by U-boat packs. The other Trek shows tended to always use some kind of flat surface to fight, with only very limited times where it tended to show us a more 3D battlefield (I'm thinking about the Federation fleet engaging with Borg attack on the Sol system in First Contact, some battle scenes in the Dominion war arc in DS9, and some Voyager/Enterprise scenes where ships perform 3D maneuvers, to name just a few examples).
    Also, the choice of having multiple different ships for the Klingon fleet also makes more sense, because if it was a very small fleet, having the same kind of unit would make more sense, while having a mix in the fleet in any attack would work better, as you would have ships with specialized abilities that could carry out very specific tasks or carry very specific gear, like ECM for example (jammers), or better sensor arrays, or serving as C&C platforms from a difference.
    The crushing scene - I don't know how to feel about that. We know Klingon ships had battle armor plating of a kind that made them pretty tough, even if you don't count the shielding (that would have been disrupted in a gas giant (if the script called for it ) ). Also, for the "crushing effect" to work, having the ship simply break up wouldn't make any sense, because the crushing effect would continue even when structural flaws or weak points on the Klingon ship finally gave in. In effect, using the crushing effect would have posed the problem on what was the "end result" of that special effect. I would say that would have been the most difficult effect to work out how to end because you'd either have to show the ship fragments being crushed down to almost nothing, or simply cut away after the ship starts breaking apart. :/

  • @astralwerks4
    @astralwerks4 Před 4 lety +3

    Its funny how the troll sheep always say contemporary Trek is about phasers when Discovery season 2 barely fired one till episode 9...but Axanar? Its about war and space battles and designs of combat ships. That's not Star Trek guys.

  • @gregorymuir1985
    @gregorymuir1985 Před 4 lety

    Oh my sweet baby cthulhu, those are some good shots. I rewatched the Axanar short again. It was so good.
    There's a few lessons to be learned from this.
    1. We have the technology. We can actually do this without Hollywood.
    2. You can't piggyback of of other IP. If you get too successful, they will sue you to death.
    3. Can't let ego get in the way. Even if CBS didn't get involved, it sounds like there were some real egos involved that were poisonous to the project.
    How do you move forward? Rolling your own IP completely might be pretty difficult. You might be in a good position to latch onto something that's got following in one medium but hasn't made the leap. The Expanse was something proven with good writing that could then be adapted to TV.
    The Orville is basically a giant love letter homage to classic TNG. The original BSG was a shameless ripoff of Trek but was still fun. If you really want to do Trek with the serial numbers filed off, you can, just go the Orville route.
    Anyway, fantastic work. I hope you get to actually deliver on this with something wonderful!

  • @MatthewCWeiss
    @MatthewCWeiss Před 4 lety

    That Klingon Hymn is beautiful. Bravo!!!

  • @AgentTomcat
    @AgentTomcat Před 4 lety

    The 17:00 mark is the beginning of some of the most, if not the most, beautiful Trek I've ever seen.