What does the Gombe Chimpanzee War say about our past? | The Gombe Chimpanzee War 1974-1978
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- The Gombe Chimpanzee War
The conflict happened from 1974-1978 between two communities of chimpanzees in Gombe Stream National Park, Tanzania, the namesake of the war.
Before we go any further, we can extrapolate quite a bit from this very simple bit of information about Chimpanzees.
1. Another species is engaging in what we would describe only as "war"
2. Another species is capable of pre-meditated genocide
3. Another species has the mental capability to strategically plan the extermination of a rival tribe.
4. Another species has what we would describe as "tribes"
But what does this say about humankind? Assuming we share a common ancestor - could this war be an indicator of a commonality between our two species that is far more ancient than we expected? Let's take a look and see.
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First video of the channel.
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#Chimpanzee
#Gombe
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#Prehistoric
#History
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#Ape
People on the internet: Return to Monke, things were simpler and easier back then
The Monke:
i mean, what's simpler: staging a million-man war with tons of resources on land, sea and air on all fronts of the world OR kill lonely monke as group when lonely monke is eating?
@@forteusvaldez4647 it's the same thought process
I'm more into evolving to crab
@@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea7258 doesnt everthing evolves into crabs anyway
@@thanasis-_- it's a requirement killing is a necessary part of nature
This is how aliens study us.
"To our shock, the humans have actually learned to engage in diplomacy and politics."
Lmao no they haven't
Where are all these dumb aliens
@@Billswiftgti I know you guys are being edgy, but it's still diplomacy and politics even when it's primitive and ineffective.
@@AageKush all I can think about is all the ridiculous rages and arguments and those trying to sound all smart when they really aren't, you feel?
Besides it was in a jesting way such as your comment
Yeah but its in the alpha phase
guy you can't just edit a load of spears into chimpanzees hands in the thumbnail and not give me chimpanzees holding spears in the video. this is outrageous.
Watch planets of the apes your needs will be satisfied…
Look again they had long sticks{ which by definition are spears }well the killed the big chimp....before they ate it
It’s a good idea though
Pretty sure there's already been a doco about this - Planet of the Apes I believe it was called
This is outrageous, it’s unfair! How can you show the chimps holding spears in thumbnail, but don’t in the video itself?
One thing that makes the war so much more brutal that I have yet to hear anyone mention, is the fact that they grew up with, were friends with, were related to, etc the very chimps they were killing. They also used the information of their former friends habits, to locate, and eradicate them. That puts this at a totally different level of maliciousness.
When you perceive someone as a threat to you, you have the capability to instantly become antipathetic to them, their pain, their suffering. A less dramatic example would be exes after a break-up. A more dramatic example will be your neighbors who voted for the other guy in the upcoming Civil War 2.0. Good night.
@@alejandrogonzalez8150 based comment, good night.
So what you are saying is the group was say pre-Obama America. When many couldn't stand what had become of their society they chose to go somewhere else. Then the libs led by the squad hunted them down and killed them all.
Monkeys can be trained to use Machettes,lol..it has been tried in Uganda,and I believe ,no one can wield a Machett like chimps,lol
@@justsaying3594 i have never heard this conspiracy theory
say more
*Humans looking at Chimpanzee war it out: "Interesting..."
*Aliens looking at Humans war it out: "Interesting..."
Interesting...
"Hot damn. They hella violent. Savages."
*Chimpanzee looking at aliens war it out: "Ah yes, interesting indeed..."
@@blaz1674 *aliens and chimps to eachother*
"Interesting..."
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero *Monke tips hat to alien* "I tip my hat to you, one legend to another"
Monke: Execute Banana 66
Join the banana side, BananaLuke
It's over Bananakin i have the high ground
BananaLuke, I am your Bananafather * BANANOOOOOOOOOOOOO!*
UNLIMITED BANANA
@@azureshieldchannel1969 You underestimate my power, general Cornobi
Ants wage war all the time, there are even literal slaver ants that go out and take the larvae of another ants hive and raise them to do the menial labor of THEIR hive. cruelty isn't exclusively human, we're just the best at thinking about it after the fact.
Not by the definition used here they don't. There is no premeditation or planning from ants, no strategizing. For ants conflict is something that happens to them and they react to it instinctively. Chimps do it much more like humans do, with mindfulness, and awareness of consequences.
And thinking about it before the fact, during the fact, cruelty is one thing, but recognising cruelty and doing it needlessly is a whole other thing.
Some ants also do farming and cattle herding
@@oldmossystone so how do you explain orcas killing for fun or cats playing with a meal before they kill it. You can self loathe all you want weirdo do ot by yourself.
@@BB-ce5ev lol
The way Orcas and cats treat their prey has nothing to do with war or ants or chimps or self loathing. WTF are you on about?
War goes back to the beginning. Even *ants* have wars, take captives, and eat their enemies.
Metaphor is tricky.
Yeah and ant wars are in bigger scale than we think
@@brick4522 honestly this just made me think about tetramorium ants which are the best known example (in the US) that engage in wars between colonies. I still hold that they're dumber than a pile of bricks compared to other species since they're the only species I've ever kept that's drowned themselves if I put in a bigger drop of honey, but I always attributed these battles to them being stupid and settling too close to one another, but upon thinking further it could be almost a collective process through the whole species (there isn't much if any individualism in an ant colony with the exception of the queen or queens) where they'll intentionally occupy territory that's only shareable at a smaller size giving both colonies an equal opportunity to grow and then selecting out the one which didn't capitalize on the resources as well.
Ants pretty much have wars all the time, they want more territory so they take over other ants bases only for humans to step on there base and ruin it😂😂
War is a metaphor here. Your level of education will determine how you respond.
I once met a chimpanzee at a VFW who claimed he fought in this war. Looked up his record just to find out he didn't even serve in Tanzania during the 70s. Called him out on stolen valor.
11/10, will steal this joke
Hell,I thought tanZANIa was only one click from waKUNDa,I feel such a fool
So many homeless chimp veterans go ignored by the government. Most of us just walk by them on the streets, not recognizing their sacrifices.
@@ElearningDigest Don't give any money to homeless chimp veteran. They just gonna spend it on bananas.
fucking zing lol
Koba: "Ape not kill Ape?"
Caesar: "You. Not. Ape."
Caesar: "Kobe delenda est"
Its " you are not ape"
@@bugz642 it's actually "you are not ape" lmfao 🤣
@@prodigy-kt8pfbruh thats what i said
@@bugz642 didnt mean to send that to you lol was suppose to be the other person.
"Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey, over pieces of the ground." -Tool
But Caesar said it shall not kill apes?
whats the song name
@@yungdomino4718 Right in Two, by Tool
Amazing song.
Glad to see someone has a great taste in music.
Those pieces of the ground got plenty of room for building houses and growing delicious plants
I once saw an old chimpanzee wearing a rebel flag bandana , cut off tee , tattoos , with a thousand yard stare while smokin a joint. I could tell he was a gombe war veteran. Man did he have some stories
This comment goes so hard, feel free to screenshot.
😂🤣🤣
indeed he wasnt nibba
This is exactly what I should expect to find browsing at 3am
3am here too
Literally 3 am also. What am I doing awake?
@@theanimeman97 4:07 and here i am watching monke
3 am rn 😂
Bro it's 3 in a the am
Everybody gangsta til' the Austrian monke gets rejected from art school
now, I'm imagining a chimpanzee with hitler's hairstyle and uniform making chimp noises while all the other chimps listen closely
@@eloiskret6074 ww2 in a nutshell
but there needs to be a kaiser first that messed up real gud i like this even more
@@eloiskret6074 Tanzania used to be ruled by Germany.
Art school in vienna*
When he said "Guerilla warfare" I felt that
lmao
more like gorilla warfare
@@conejodemercurio6301 that's... That's the joke...
@@caseydopp318 sorry for ruin it XD.
My grandfathers chimpanzee actually fought in this war. He gave his life for his brothers and sisters and unfortunately did not return home. Some of his mates came by to pay their respects and tell us how Hubu saved their life’s.
RIP Hubu
Monke: Ooh! Ahh! Ooh! Ahh! Ahh!
Translation: Geneva Convention? More like Geneva suggestion.
There he is lord, a xeno sympathizer!
BURN THE HERITIC
The great to-do list
monke isnt funny
HAAHAH GENEVA SUGGESTION SO FUNNI
giant lizard vs giant monke : i sleep
monke tribe vs monke tribe : REAL SHI-
Well, this is actually real, so
@@doge8726 LMAO based
@@doge8726 Based Racism
@@drippeeboye607 how the hell is racism based?
@@lancenwokeji6349 Racism isn't mainstream and looked down upon by a majority of our society. Therefore choosing to be openly racist is based.
"Humans are a Tribal species struggling to become a Global one." - Biologist E.O. Wilson
Period 💅
I mean, to be fair, your list of "another species" can also be applied to Ants, who have wars, commit genocide, have strategy, and an ant colony is essentially a tribe
ants don’t think thou, they don’t single out other ants they probably just do shit cus either it’s instinct or something from the queen
@@pole8740 Ants are quite complex. They do not "obey" nor are they led by the Queen. In fact, if a Queen refuses to perform her role within a colony, she will be coerced and forced into it by her workers. In essence, she's only Queen so long as she acts like the Queen.
I'm not an ant expert, so take this with much more than a grain of salt, but my understanding is that Ants pretty much act based upon the necessity of the collective. There are lots of pheromones and such involved that they pickup and act upon with their antenna, but as far as their individual will, well like I said, there have been cases of Queen Ants trying to weasel their way out of what the collective thinks is best. But I don't know how much individuality or intelligence that really indicates. Not much, if I had to hazard a guess.
But one distinction between Ants and Apes, is that Ants are far less likely to act outside of the necessity of their colony. They typically won't commit some kind of genocide if it doesn't serve some sort of practical advantage based upon their learned patterns of evolution. You won't, for example, see one colony split into two and wage a civil war as far as I am aware, although there may be an individual species with which such a thing is possible, I haven't observed or read about it personally.
@@Tracker947 About ant civil wars, they only happen with megacolonies if im not mistaken. Once one part of the colony grows too distinct from the parent colony, they break off to do their own thing and this may lead to competition for resources.
Monke: Civil War
Return to monke means waging genocidal wars onto rival tribes 😍🥺
Ape, together, strong....
Ape, divided, weak....
:3 I would love to eat monke
Well if you put it like that every War is a civil war
@@musachowdhury3655 the monkey tribe split then they started killing the old tribe thats a civil war
Came thinking it was a joke, stayed because it was actually really interesting
@Mitchell Scripter imagine if we teach a gorilla to box and lift weights
Well ,that explains. Mobuto and sese Kabila...but seriously ,those were Castro's soldiers in monkey suits.
Edit: cheat guevara as commander!
@@startenderspacebar an average alpha grown gorilla can lift 4x its size so they’ll probably lift about 4k lbs
Chimpanzee are almost as horrible as us
@Mitchell Scripter We taught that gorilla the concept of death. It deeply traumatized it. The first thing it asked was "what was the point of telling me?"
I have known for a long time that chimpanzees were capable of horrific, up-close-and-personal violence. This knowledge came from a highly-publicized incident that occurred many years ago, involving a woman who was keeping chimpanzees on her property. I don't recall many of the details, but I think the chimps were "retired" animal stars that were used in the movie industry. Anyway, a friend came to do a well-being check at the residence and she was suddenly and viciously attacked by one of the chimpanzees. The friend who was attacked had both of her hands bitten off from her arms and her face was literally ripped away from her skull. She somehow survived and underwent one of the first (if not the first) face transplant surgeries. Having said all of this and knowing that chimpanzees murder their own kind in similar fashion, I am struck by the fact that Jane Goodall, herself never experienced violence by chimpanzees.
That chimpanzee had been given Xanax prior to that horrific incident. It’s worth noting that.
Chimpanzees are friendly to humans in the wild
I made this video as the very first video of my channel, with absolutely abyssmal technology (editing software, microphone, and general skillset), and literally zero expectations of success over a year ago now. I will forever make sure that I know the accepted pronounciation for things - so thank you all for my lesson with Tanzania.
Thanks for the support guys, and have a good day!
Fits nomadic tribes 100%
Chimpanzees are cannibals
good stuff, keep at it!
so now there just cavemen with more body hair and less top hair actually now they are people the apps have ascended to our plain
@@PleiadianDreams So are Tech executives.
What is more scary is not they one group decided to get rid of others that went against them but that they managed to communicate among their peers the decision and plan to go do it.
And track down the survivors
Where do you think WE and chimps got it from
@Eric Logos No one has ever said that.
We just need a healthy nature to survive. That's why we try to take some care of it.
@@wesleymartins5970 unfortunetly some people do believe nature is inherently good ive gotten into arguments over it.
@Eric Logos no one said that lololololol
"War predates human kind"
Ants, wasps, and bees that existed for thousands of years before humans, possibly even pre-dinosaur: "You don't say?"
Ants enslave other species of ants, too!! It's crazy.
@@inquisitorialllama638 Ants are like super authoritarian mega communists.
@@cascas9656 I know, right? They are so.... Hiveminded.
@@cascas9656 Lmao I always picture ants when I think of uniform, conformist, communal societies too
@@cascas9656 Aristotle already noticed this.
I have always been curious how an assault is coordinated by them. Meaning, how does the idea originate and get communicated to others so that the collective knows what they are about to engage in? That is fascinating. Also, the cooking of food is an absolute cornerstone of human evolution. Most animals spend most of their time seeking food. Being able to cook food not only allows a more diverse diet, but less time is spent foraging for food allowing more time to engage in other activities. Thanks for the vid.
We didn't spent less time foraging, we spent less time eating and digesting
I didn't know Diddy Kong was capable of murder.
Guessing you didn't play Smash Bros Brawl.
Diddy Kong is a monkey, so not entirely accurate.
However, Dixie Kong is a Chimpanzee, so now we know that she is capable of murder and is not to be trusted.
@@DaNintendude theres this cool and neat thing called a joke
@@DaNintendude Diddy better watch it then. She might or is plotting to eat him lol
@@DaNintendude You need to be introduced to the concept of a joke.
I'm low key disappointed that they didn't have spears in the real war.
Although, Chimps are capable of and have been seen using simple tools, like sharp stones and wooden "forks."
It's because it wasn't in the chimps government's defense budget.
It would be scary if they did
They will evolve to being avle to create and use weapons one day
@@joshuagross3151 still in the paleolithic era
Plot Twist: They fought to appease their God. Who we know as Jane Goodall.
Jane told them not to go... they wouldn't listen
"Goodall, or some may call her God All".
What is it with apes and women called Jane?
@@scrimmybingus4871 excellent question
@@scrimmybingus4871 I can only think of two and I am pretty sure that real life apes are unaware of Jane from Tarzan...
Jade Goodall: humans are Monsters and the most aggressive Species on earth
>sees chimpanzes absolutey brutalsing themself
>surprised pikachu Face
I want a Sabaton song of this event
Ima screenshot your profile pic real quick
@@idksomeguy3294 Hey don’t do that, I paid 5million for this one
@@gadsdenflag5218 *screenshots*
@@idksomeguy3294 *rages on twitter*
This may appear as a simple faction versus another faction, but this was actually a proxy war for the US to seize the Kasakala banana fields.
Sorry but, what you just said can't be allowed to get out.
The FBI wants to know your location
@@googane7755 more like CIA
op is gonna end up committing suicide by shooting themself in the back of the head twice.
Stay right there..
The guy who figures out how to sell rifles to chimps is gonna make a mint.
I bet you could rip off a chimp pretty easy.
Rich people are usually the creative people, we need to start dominating the free market of chimp gun manufactory
There’s a video of a chimp with an ak on CZcams
czcams.com/video/QxYmm5yCJBg/video.html
@@hoot444 yeah then they rip off your face
Everything topic you make a video about is interesting man, good job.
This is very interesting. I’m going to research more into this. Thanks
I was a little disappointed to realize you added the spears.
Same
Thumbnail wars man.
fr tho if someone actually gave them spears they would be absolute horrible people for encouraging war
Same
nah what they did was worse then spears though lol.
“A lot of the terms used are very human terms”
Jane Goodall telling the story: “Ooh Eeh ooh Ah Ah *Genocide* ooh ooh *War and violence* Eeh Eeh Ah Ah *Kidnapping and ambush*
Okay that's pretty funny
You unironically nearly made me choke to death cause I was eating this is unexpectedly funny
😹😹
I was expecting "Ohh Eeh ooh *OOIL* "
This sounds like a sam'onella bit lmao
REALLY WELL NARRATED, AND EXPLAINED.
Excellent video. I minored in psychology and never heard about this. Subbed
Somewhere, in Gombe - a single thought arises:
"Grim Dark. Only War."
Funny
Reject monke
Evolve to robot
Monke- "blood for the blood God"
"In the distopic year of 1970 theres only monkey war and fog from swuamps"
It looks like the work of the twin gods gwrok and mork....they were looking for a good scrap
"Return to Monke, they're peacefull"
Monke.- Rip and tear until it's done.
No evolve into a asteromorph
@@kyvilfongkot6372 thos ethingsa are horrifying
Return to monke not because it was peaceful but because it was simple.
Peace is overrated. Violence is the essence of life.
@@raptorrogue4227 no become koala
@@raptorrogue4227 Bayzed
Oversimplified needs to make a video about this
fascinating video thanks for sharing.
Ants have wars. Sometimes they even join colonies of the same species, none of these behaviors are uniquely mammalian/hominid
Ants dont have 98% of our DNA. That was his point, that these chimpanzee wars can teach us about ourselves.
@@jaycee4844 That is true, but he stated in this video that it was believed, prior to this incident, that humans beings were the only living beings on Earth that plot wars and engage in premeditated murder. This is not exclusive to human beings and mammals. I would add that he called us human beings "animals", I do not hold to this view for many reasons. But regardless, of our differing views/beliefs about this the animal/insect world is just as violent as we human beings are. And, they definitely engage in premediated murder.
@@michaelg.tucker6363
Why are humans not animals? What are your reasons? I want to insult you, so it's best if you don't reply. Just in case you do, your views are shit. I've known humans for 18 years and I can understand three facts:
- We agree with what feels best
- We also agree with what is right
- We are driven by emotion
So, your points may not be rooted in fact. It may be entirely metaphysical, Godly, religious maybe, but that doesn't matter because Gods are falsified - multiple religions exist so it doesn't prove much.
@@uuddlrlrabsmhm8430 you can't say your argument is unassailable because you view what he might counter with as false. Just because you think something is false doesn't make it so. That's a lesson I've learned over my lifetime a few times.
@@oryan4395
So, you felt nothing when you replied? If yes, you're wrong. If no, you're right. The need to reply means you felt the need to reply to me? That proves 1 of 3 points right.
You said that I think Gods are false. That proves the first of the 3 points right.
Inevitably the last point is a mix of the first 2 points - experience is equated to 2 standards, not one.
===
Your wisdom failed you, grow a bit older. I don't know if you'll believe me or not, but you're just like the teenagers of today. You don't have anything different to say, you have nothing new to add, you're useless to me. Replying to you was fun, but you're useless. Sorry... wait... I'm not :?
"One monke Weak"
"More Monke Stronk"
- General Monke
I see you also read "The Art of Monke"
Smart monke
@@atomiswave2.....Yeah, the one without the tail called himself Adam!
well if you had your face ripped off by this monkey you would have more respect,this animal could rip your limbs off in a couple of minutes,its happened to humans,they are far more powerful than the strongest men
Yes
Fascinating.. most incredible of all was their ability to form wooden handle spears with iron tips. You should do another video about this. I'd love to see the forge.
Amazing video
That wasn’t a war... it was a massacre... I was the only survivor in my squad, Sniff just had a kid too... I will never forgive myself for what they did... the screams, the fire, blood... it never leaves...
I’m so sorry for your loss. Dark times we have entered
You weren't prepared for the random chimp event
I told you to follow Caesar and not Bubbles, that guy was never going to make a good General.
War . . . War never changes.
Monke:
"Why are we here? Just to suffer?.... Every night, I can feel my leg... And my arm... even my fingers... The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our bananas!"
It's not a war when one side ain't fighting back that was just murder
True. A more straightforward explanation is that they killed any lone male chimps they found who were not part of their group.
@@aussiecath gang violence
good point! ape shit killing spree
Massacare
Sounds like a riot to me.
Bro, where did you come from lol I love what you focus on. This is stuff I obsess over daily.
nicely compiled
today is the day youtube algorithm decided i learn about the gombe chimpanzee war. thanks youtube
Same. Lol
the algorithm is trying to tell us something 😐
Today it decided it was my turn to learn this.
Uh oh they’re on to us o_O
@@ivanelias3916
Hmmm.... after a pandemic appetizer.... maybe war as the main dish?
"they were killed because they rooted for Godzilla"
- Genghanzee Khan
monke life is best life
Ride Wife
Life Good
@@lifesucketh4923 wife turned genocidal life bad
Interesting, thanks!
I've tried to explain to others before that the "human emotions" we express really are just derived from basic animal instincts. This story goes some way towards verifying this. Yes our emotions might be a bit more detailed, but how much more detailed are they really from animal instincts?
“Two brothers led this war”
Menelaus and Agamemnon?
No Charlie and some other dude
His name is Hue the Conqueror.
He is Hue. Their blood will run a deep red tainting their land for generations..... (tried and struggled to make a menacing threat using Hue as color hue.)
Romulus and Remus
I died when my sides exploded
Two and a half men😂
Cool video
I’m cool with anthropomorphism when referring to animals just as long as no one uses Ebonics heard someone say “the monkey ran up” using words like hood or block
This was a perfect break down brother ✊🏿
"Reject humanity, return to monke"
I'm not so sure about that anymore...
Chimpanzees are ape, humans are ape, monkey is monkey, so reject great ape return to monkey
@@isaiahthomas9817 You know what i meant. I was quoting the meme.
This is propaganda. There are eight species of great ape, humans included. Chimps are the only brutally aggressive species of the eight. Go watch some videos on orangutans or bonobos, or primitive hunter-gatherer groups like the San or Hadza, and you'll feel better.
@@gadpivs humans are also brutally agressive
Return to snake and lizard
Only reptilians can do this
They failed to mention the mysterious black monolith that appeared before this all happened
Context
Source?
Lol this was actually a youtuber that planted it on different countries
smh, nobody here has seen 2001: A Space Odyssey
@@Crick1952 wait the comment is a joke?
It's more similar to activity on the south side of chicago than it is a battle in a war. This is like 2 gangs on the street and one gang catching the other side slipping.
explains so much about our own "superiority" as a species.
"Chimps are nicer than humans "
*Me who watches Hood Nature:*
👀
Ah a fellow man of culture
@@BigBroKuma great minds think alike .
Who tf said chimps are nicer than humans 😂 those fuckers would rip u apart and not even think about it later
@Edwin Arnold and castrate each other on occasion.
@Edwin Arnold but humans are more capable of evil than any animal in the world.
Everybody talking about how chimpanzees waged war before humans did and I'm just sitting here like "it took them a whole 4 years to kill like 6 dudes?"
Those are rookie numbers
We are much better at killings.
they hunted a specific tribe in the jungle for 4 years with their bare hands. imagine if they had technology
Ya just look at Hirioshima. That was like, a couple of hours at most? Look at the body count on that badboy. Chimp are clearly an early alpha model, we are final product.
@@windblownleaf6450 If you think about all the man hours that went into making such destructive forces possible, it was a very inefficient endeavor.
Very interesting.
I saw a documentary on this. Very interesting how they were one group that splintered.
Do you remember the name of the documentary by any chance?
Hugh stole Charlie’s girl I’m calling it right now, this what caused the war.
Troy 2: Monke Boogaloo
A certain uninvited someone lobbed a banana into a chimp wedding. Then Hugh stole Charlie’s girl... and the rest is History.
Bruh Dee Dee is going to violate the Geneva convention 😤.
He couldn't get the monkey off his back
You might be right...
Now imagine what it was like when humans learnt to throw rocks at each other with slings. Imagine being a rival tribe and getting a rock thrown at your head from outta nowhere.
Hominid Sniper
I can imagine a group of top elders going to the barbarian version of Tony Stark and telling him about an incident that happened last night with advanced weaponry and them just asking him " can you develop this technology?" and the gruff and cynical barbarian just looking at the rock and going " It's beyond my science, but that never stopped me".
Imagine flaming throwing spears showering your tribe
Neanderthals: guess I'm gone
Even more recent, the first time someone saw a musket. It just looks like a big stick, he points it at someone, and then there’s this terrible sound and the guy next to you has a hole in his chest
These things really are in their same age … and we specifically got to witness one of the earliest if not the earliest wars of their species before it advances in thousands of years and fights the same way we do, long after we’re gone
Tan-za-nee-a
Fascinating nonetheless
Ok Good, I was wondering if that bothered anyone else.
@@DrForrester87 wanna rip my fucking ears off yeah
I'm starting to think some mispronounce words just to get comments
"Only males were killed."
According to the Wikipedia article: "Of the females from Kahama, one was killed, two went missing, and three were beaten and kidnapped by the Kasakela males."
It’s really anthropomorphized which he said in the video; however, I don’t know if he just didn’t explain it well enough, but a lot of the things the Chimps did seemed like normal behavior from animals especially in territorial bouts and fights for dominance.
@@weebgenerator9556 or maybe warfare is just normal animal instincts writ large
So they did what the Greeks and every other civilisation did to every city they conquered, raped and took the women as slaves killing anyone that tried to resist.
"According to the Wikipedia article..." Wikipedia is nice for entertainment, but is pretty garbage for information.
@@Shrapnel82 If you don’t believe Wikipedia, look at the sources. The particular part in the quote is cited to be from “War! What is is Good For?: The Role of Conflict and the Progress of Civilization from Primates to Robots” by Morris and Ian (2014).
If you still don’t believe the quote, then you clearly haven’t done any academic research.
To me it's less of an actual war and more of like a series of mafia hits.
That’s even better.
Kinda like how some governments will take out people they don’t like.
Turf war
More like a prison hit
@@sharonrigs7999 what’s the difference lmfao
you had me at "gorilla warfare" lmaaaaoooo.
but fr this is sad and i just realized Jane from Tarzan was based on Jane Goodall
Far further back than one step. There's a well-documented case of a female alpha meerkat devising a war between her pack and neighbouring pack so that she could mate with a male she'd spied there. Meerkats normally only mate within their pack but do need to find ways of mating between packs to increase genetic diversity. She was able to orchestrate the war, resulting in serious injuries and death among both packs, to achieve this end. She and the male were able to sneak off unobserved during the battle. Even videos as open-minded as this fail to see the 'humanity' across the whole animal kingdom.
Was a smooth black monolith found on the vicinity?
........@Capolaya....Yes it was....And the one called moon watcher was aggressively guarding it....All of them looked very angry like they all had "chimps" on their shoulders!!
Open the space pod doors
@@beastmode3799.....I can't do that yung!
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I don’t get the reference
They way they picked them off one by one was like a mafia revenge hit.
Yeah but the way they were ganged up on instead of 1on 1, saves from the tribe looseing any mermbers to have a near 100% win in each victim they targeted! Without being considerd raceist because and this a fact! Compaire if fisherman could watch how porpoises and whales fish to surround a school if fish to feed, they will keep a swiming circle around the school and 1 at a time will feed inside the circle that golds the school if fish, wala, man invented fish nets, ok! Possible in cultures of the Black races from the congo part of Africa, if Black tribes had learned that art of fighting warfare, to 5 or 6 on 1, because ive seen that in Black culture in Chattanooga Tn. growing up, being white and haveing to fight, like it or not, and thats the majority how most would fight that were black, and not judgeing our accuseing any seperate individual! If its anything that goes back how the bible mentions, things that people watch and observe of animals or even plants to learn by, to become some of our cultures!
@@johnbonner5284 What in the fuck is wrong with your brain
@@josgretf2800 Given he comes from Tennessee, I would say he's inbred. Although quality education is rare to find down there so.....
@@josgretf2800 I'm gonna wildly speculate, and say that he probably is creating some kind of folk pseudocientific explanation for things he observed, filtered through whatever biases and reduced amount ofrelevant information he was exposed to.
He probably doesn't understand the implications of what he's saying, and doesn't understand why it's a load of nonsense, because he's doesn't have the relevant knowledge. He's probably also under the influence of an implicitly (or even explicitly) racist background.
That's what it looks like to me, but of course I might be completely wrong.
@@johnbonner5284
RIP grammar. We hardly knew ye.
It was a hard war and I've lost many friends in that war. R.I.P
Aaaah yesss, history repeats itself
This honestly reminds me more of gang warfare. Most shootouts between gangs weren't this pitched disruption but were usually a few members attacking an isolated enemy gang member.
If anyone knows, it should be you, comrade.
That’s what happens when your ops catch you lacking innit
@God emperor of mankind bro, look at your name. Big E killed probably trillions of humans and probably quadrillions of aliens. Your glorifying probably the biggest mass murderer in Fiction
@@AT-AT26 if you really wanna get existential, you could argue that it was actually Abbadon since some demonic texts and goatias suggest that he is primordial in nature
@@kimkillillasfuq8212 maybe, but whenever someone screams "for the emperor of mankind!" and then massacres an entire planet full of untold billions of humans then I kind of have to put those deaths to Big E.
Just like how the black book of communism (the book that details all the deaths under people like Stalin and Mao) includes the abortions, suicides (not the fake suicides like with Epstein but actual ones) and Na*s that were killed that happened under their regimes and credited all to communism.
My father fought in that war, he was almost killed by a sniper while storming tree 54 also called banana tree because people were smashed into banana pulp there. He would always tell us stories about his adventures, like when the enemy infantry enraged them by throwing faeces at them or that one time when he captured the enemy tire swing by pretending to be a lion
My father was in the ape-force, got shot down by faeces and spent the rest of the war in Colditz.
@@sillypuppy5940 Oh was he in the orangutan platoon, I heard they had to deal with some nasty stuff.Got caught in an banana barrage, almost the whole platoon was wiped out
I still have books of my grandpa who served in that war, he was a monke-trooper and was right in the thick of the brawls, he passed down stories to my father and then to me of him dragging several chimps into the trees and then dropping them. When the war ended he was tried and charge of war crimes in the Banana Convention, a shame.
was George Floyd there too?
@@wasserungeheuer-918 Might I remind you of the 101st Canopy Division? It's said they got the best of the war, they also got the worst. At the battle of Unga Bunga hill, they led an uphill battle and lost half of their legion to feces and rock mortars. I also heard they're one of the reasons the Monke republic won
As i sit here on my smartphone watching this all i can think about is: Damn... something special really happened for us to evolve that fast from basically being an upright ape to what we are today. Being able to communicate with each other in thousands of languages, communicate with other people in seconds making a Phone call, we have self drivning cars and has stood on the FKN MOON and voyager is traveling right now away from our solar system and has hit a fire wall... goddamn...
Thumbnail got me good
My brothers crossed the line when they started eating each other I had to leave and join my human brothers.
wait I don't get it explain pls?
He’s a vegetarian
@@isaiahnavarro3480 after killing another chimp the tribe that commited murder will celibrate by canibalising the victim and sharing their meat with each other
@@liamgross7217 chimps are omnivores and cannibals
@@haunebu421 Oh thanks bro
What gets me more then the Primate War is, his pronunciation of Tanzania
Its "Tanzania" not Tanzania everyone knows that.
I giggled. He said it like it was Tazmania
Its rather close to how tanzanians themselves say it... He just lack some more depth pathos to his A sound
Yeah, maybe he should have done as he said: "I HIGHLY recommend you give it a quick CZcams search".
Than*
Hello where u been i missed u pls come back im a big fan
"I really like the nature here, its a beautiful place and while humans are evil, violent and corrupt, chimpanzees are much more peaceful and i think we can learn from them to create a more harmonious future"
- Jane, bevor witnessing organized monke war and genocide.
Total War: Monke
Total War: Monke 2 - Rise of the Bonobo
@@katscrachesme bonobos would go extinct by turn five
kaindrg
Hell no! If you have a banana doom stack, you can wipe out any enemy monke infantry in the game.
Only gorrila chaff can withstand banana doom stacks.
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"You killed Monkedne in your fit of rage Bananakin..."
**Dramatically gets up from the medical bed**
"Ooo Ooo AHH AHHH!"
It's over bananakin! I'm on top of the coconut tree!
You inderestimate my shit-flinging power...
@@Kraanox don't throw it...
"I have brought peace, food, and shit flinging to my new tribe"- Bananakin
This video is very very very quiet compared to other youtube videos
Gombe Chimpanzee's War and Mapogo Brothers are one of the most interesting stories from Wild Life
TLDR
Hugh and Charlie become revolutionaries and their friends don’t like that.
They broke free form Kasakela authoritarian regime, but they paid highest price for thier freedom.
@@cyrkielnetwork thats true though. Humphrey (the alpha of kasakela) was an horrible ape
How could they have possibly thought chimps were less aggressive than humans? A caretaker once got his testicles and eyes ripped off because he gave a chimpanzee a cake. The ones who didn’t get cake got mad and did that.
yo my mans got tentacles?
@@muktedirozluk8596 testicles??
@@silverargent8442 possibly a typo but still funny af
You realize this was 30 years before the cake thing right?
And the behaviour observed in this incident was different from any previously observed behaviour by chimps in the wild.
@@muktedirozluk8596 autocorrect doesn’t like testies
"Apes together stonk"
Commander-in-cheif Humphrey
this says that all conflict starts when one person or group wants to be left alone and the dominant group decides that's dangerous and they need to die
I always find it funny how many people have this weird view of animals and nature, as if mankind is somehow an anomaly from the rest of nature.
We are NOT more violent, animals are not more peaceful... we are just more organised and therefore when we do exactly the same stuff as other creatures do... it is just on a bigger more obvious scale to us.
For most of human history life was a struggle and we fought the same way every other animal does. Now due to our dominance on the planet we do not have to... but the same violence is still there, we are just the only ones who whine about it from our warm comfy homes with our full bellies!
what can anyone do about it
But we are also the only animals that have the capacity to understand the consequences of our violent actions, but we still keep doing them.
Wait are you saying the cicada killers flying around my house aren't peacefully asking the cicada's to be surrogates host for their babies?
I think we’re exactly the same, the only difference is a small percentage of us humans are really the cause of revolutionary growth, the others of us are just as bit animalistic as, well… animals. We cast such humans who cause growth out and name them as the anomaly instead. A percentage of other animals must do that too, but because we’re humans we see us as more than anything else.
Well said. ☺😀
You may not know me. I am Jacob, after the split I was chilling with my homies and passing the blunt. WHEN I GOT ATTACKED BY SOME APE WITH A ROCK, I protected my tribe the best I can but I shortly died.
You should've passed that blunt to your attackers I reckon.
R.I.P. Harambe, never forget.
You got attacked because you didn't pass that blunt to them
Yey .....!!!
Lets keep our animals instincts because it is constructive for our species of humanity population mind set... Just keep that blunt..☮️🖖
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Damn it! I read Gobi Chimpanzee war and got all excited imagining chimps fighting it out in the desert Dune style. I guess this will have to do.
what did you do to your other videos?
Jane Goodall is an absolute unit, living around these guys so long and not getting destroyed.
well she is female. Im more surprised they didnt try to mate with her.
Actually she very often told the story about one of the male chimps of the goup whom she knew from birth one day totally out of nowhere tried to kill her and harmed her badly. She survived by playing dead.
@@berwinenzemann3468 She still carried on though; Most people would've quit, but her devotion went beyond what that one experience evoked.
@@ryankl1984 Uh yeah that’s not how it works bud
@@claytonkickflip7595 Seeing how nature works, what he described definitely how it works, bud!