Mind Cannot Understand Eternity
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- A man asks for clarification on a particular sentence Rupert wrote on the eternal now.
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No one explains the profound like this man. He is truly special.
Geoff Newton
They just explain it differently
Eckhart Tolle calms me, Alan Watts entertains me, Rupert fills in the rest
Amazingly enough, I literally explained this to my mother when I was 7. I asked her why does space and time just continue forever? Perplexed, she looked at me and said "what do you mean?" I began to tell her how to me at least, it seemed that in order for anything to "be", it must then be inside of something else, and if that is true, then time is just forever. Just because nobody is around to record time, doesn't mean it is not going on.
"The mind can never understand the eternal... but nevertheless, there is a place where eternity and time intersect. In other words there is a meeting or place where consciousness and mind intersect, and it's called Now."
I've experienced eternity, it's called waiting in the doctor's office.
Jesse Gandy haha
Me also, sitting in a meeting with a financial advisor
hahahahahaha
lmao
I’ve experienced it too it’s calle school seven cruel hours of our lives
he always explains it so well. Even mind can understand.
So true, in fact I always felt that I am without any age, just a timeless being...
Well let's see if you say the same if you should be 80 or 90?
@@bodhiheeren Why wouldn't we?
Very good. He is explaining very well something that cannot be explained if that makes any sense. Since a child I have been obsessed with the concept of eternity and still am. I remember aged 8-9 laid in bed and willing myself to grasp it and thought about it so hard I began a journey down a rabbit hole.
The most beautiful sentences on aging ever !
This a good one . I can relax and let the source of my Being interpret for me .
the truth is, we know close to nothing about everything.
These great mysteries will remain unsolved I think. Even AI may not be able to figure it out, and even if it did, maybe we wouldnt understand.
infinity, eternity, not existing, something outside of time, these things we cannot comprehend.
Maybe we never will like I said.
We have a fear of the unknown, naturally.
Now, this fear of eternity/infinity, is deeper even.
It's an awareness of sorts, at least that is what we want to think.
But as we DONT KNOW the truth, we cannot see it as an awareness.
We have to see it as a waste of time, in a way, since it can cause many of us panic attacks and worse.
So the phobia is this:
we are living now. But when we die, what happens? do you exist forever in darkness, or in "heaven", do you reincarnate forever, do you stop existing forever?
None of these things we know, no one knows. Whoever claims to know is lying or believing in something THEY DONT KNOW.
That is the fear. It is the knowledge we think we have, but since we dont know about it for sure, we just speculate, then its a waste of our mental health to get deep into it.
ITs not about forgetting it, since its hard and may come back.
Its about giving less importance and claiming back control, and admitting we dont know it, and being fine with it.
Just focus on life.
I know, maybe hard. But there is little alternative.
Fear, yes. I keep looking for answers
Yeah, I manage to forget about it years ago but it's coming back now. I think you're right about giving less importance to it and stop humoring the thought, although it seems my mind is not able to accept it yet. Little by little I tried to expose myself to the fear itself for the most part I don't feel dread as strong as it use to be, but I still have this uneasy feeling.
We can't see nor comperhend eternity, but one thing I know for sure that I can do something about the fear itself.
Same for me man.. now back strong as hell.. I wanna live my life but this shit stresses me out of my skin , I know I can let it go away as I apparently did years ago, but its that u know , that doesnt take away the fact that existense is eternal. Maybe this is our greatest test for enlightment though.. my dad as A spiritual teacher said that this really is a key experience to all ego related suffering on earth. Dont give up man, we’ll find a way around it/ through it, We GOT to. Cus U know everything we got here is precious,, family friends, hopes and dreams, there really is no other choice than have faith in life and let go. Peace man
In conclusion, God is real.
Speak for yourself, comprehending these things is what I live for.
This is magnificent.
Another beautiful teaching. Thank you :)
Just now finding you. You've got your stuff together! great messages
Thank you so much for sharing this underfoul talk , I'm lurning so much from you , This is so new to me , than not so new , So underfol to be lurning from you . Thank you thank you so much . Love and Blessings to you and your family . With love from Denmark .
Yes, it’s always now, and that fact is simple and profound, but this doesn’t make the sense of a _flow of time_ a misapprehension or misinterpretation. Music and spoken language, to name just two examples, are possible only because there’s an underlying/unifying cohesion that strings together distinct sounds to form greater wholes (e.g., notes-->melody-->song; consonants/vowels-->words-->sentences). Same with any ‘object’ of perception or conception: it exists _now_ , but there’s an underlying enduringness that seems to string that object’s now + now + now together into a sense of temporal flow, and thus, an _experience_ of time. Time and timelessness each has its reality, and aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. In fact, Rupert’s statement at 8:49 that “nevertheless, there is a place where eternity and time intersect” might even be a tacit acknowledgment of this.
Okay, Rupert. That was helpful. I can stop worrying about trying to "comprehend" eternity, or the "infinite." With my mind. That's not to say I cannot experience it - but to "understand it," or "comprehend it," is futile with the structure of my mind (as it is right now anyway). Thank you.
Granny is spot on. 😊
Love Rupert. He explains thought so clearly. I have tasted eternity. It wasn't thru the mind as he says.
I tried explaining this to my wife and the only way she could really grasp it was using the past as en example: The past does not exist. There is only what you're not doing anymore. Things grow, age, and die because of chemical processes. Some just happen faster than others.
Thank you.
First one to see it. i love you.
clear and powerful..
Namaste ! Thank you !❤🕉
after you realize the Supreme Energy that you are in the beyond the beyond as ajata, if you return to normal consciousness your mind will know exactly what eternity is
Well, I learned something new today
Eternity's Dream
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I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
I gaze at the night sky and realize:
I am the stars gazing back at me.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I now enter a state of consciousness that knows the oneness of all.
Now I am the diamond - not any one facet.
I am the diamond - the oneness of all.
I am no longer the fragmented mind of a man.
I am now Eternity observing my SELF - one of the denizens of Eternity's dream.
But it is not a switch of perspective.
It is what it is.
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
And the process repeats in a timeless existence.
Like a mirror within a mirror within another.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I am not my SELF anymore but only the oneness of all.
But nothing changes in Eternity.
There never is a change of perspective.
It is what it is.
There still is my SELF and Eternity,
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
Great thanks
8:56 that actually makes sense
AK I’m so glad you also think so. This is an idea I’ve considered for a long time on the concept of free will. I believe we have free will when we are immersed in the moment and fully aware of our present decisions. When I heard this man say this statement I nearly fell out of my chair
'Mind Cannot Understand Eternity',
it is the Bearer of the Mind, as can
Understand Eternity.
Eternity is the Eternal Here and Now,
Us Self,
the continious stream of 'now's,
is our Thinking, Day-Consciousness,
Motion.
So, there is the Eternal Now,
and the Stream of Now's, motion.
Life have Never seen 'Life',
only Performance/Creation.
it sometimes is annoying to hear people confuse concept of time with the change.
when you talk about apparency of time it would be easier to understand if you used a concept of change and space: space is a clear empty medium for objects to appear. they change in that space and relate to each other in continous transformation which we see as time. the step further: you who is able to observe that must be space in order to observe it. Because you do see time you must be still, changeless... space. everything that you see can not be you... but the joke of it is that there is nothing and no other else there but you alone. everything IS you... mental aerobics in the morning :)) haha
Thanks, Rupert. _/|\_
I had apeirophobia, atleast I thought I had, but that was just a confusion of the idea of eternity, rupert spira really helped me in how to understand the idea of eternity
Yeah it's been sold to humanity as something that begins when you die. Which in my understanding is a little naughty to say the least.
Eternity has to be right here, right now, breathing through everyone one of us for it to be Eternal.
@@dakini365 or better to say we're all as one sizeless consciousness or god that happened to be shaped in this realm, just like a water shaped like a cup, or multiple cups
@@sourenatube5381 Yeah you can play about with the concepts to your hearts content. One light, many lamps. One water, many cups. S'all good :)
Rupert old enough to be a Grandpa 👴🏼… talkin’ bout “Granny,” like it’s waay off! 🤷🏾♂️🌎💯😂.
Now is the eternal reality, our vision. Close your eyes and turn around, now open your eyes and you have to remember what you saw few seconds ago, while you're looking at now. Imo dreams and memory of awakeness "minutes away" are same, not at all vivid and direct as Now.
You can measure time. He is wrong. He is confusing perspective, for biologic cognovit.
Normand
Merci
I get it. I’m surprised every time I look in the mirror and see I no longer have a physique.
I don't know if I understand the concept of what you say or the words you say it with.
I really feel like if we were able to understand eternity our brains would explode in our physical beings 😕🧐
Her “Real being”, just call it what it is, her Nefesh/spirit/soul!
How many NOWs? Well we have to agree that the NOWs have the concept of past and at least PRESENT for NOW to be valid.
at this intersection of my given limited perception, for my mind has the governor that all humans on earth have equipped on/into my experience in time, I have a decent grasp on his concepts of reality, I just want to know one thing, why? why humans? why here? why are we limited in this stage of reality & what are we?
Narrow your question down and ask it when your mind is really quiet and still.
John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
It is the mind's problem, not mine.
Well I got it lol. It was fleeting yes but I get the big secret
This guy is having a hard time grasping this lol. This is the type of shit that you experience on Psychedelics. What are the first few times I ever did mushrooms as a teenager I realized that everything is happening in a grande moment a eternal now if you wanna call it. It’s something it’s very difficult to explain but he is right this guy keeps trying to understand this concept by thinking in a linear path. If the interviewer ever reads this post I highly suggest you take some psilocybin mushrooms or try NN DMT in a safe and controlled setting.
who is this francis ? the pope? or Francis of Assisi? which his body is not available now (died 1226).
👉🏼Francis Lucille
LMFAOOOOOOO his loook
So it means death of time and no birth and no death and only the eternal now! If you accept there is only the now, birth and death and time are meaningless.
They don't become empty of meaning. You still have to get to work on time, you still feel joy when a relative is born and sorrow when one dies. Understanding that all phenomenon is arising in your perception is an opportunity to have a deeper and more intimate relationship with your life.
Satan has played the majority of folks so they don't give second though as to where they're going when they leave this world. The question we should ask ourselves is what side of eternity do we desire to be on. This should be the focus point.
I'll stay this side of Eternity, thanks for asking.
@@dakini365 The point I was trying to get across is that death will be the end of our choosing. Our course would be set and there would be no altering it. How we live our lives will determine what side of eternity we end up in; that is either with God or eternal punishment. I'm not escaping out of this and neither is anyone else.
@@colindante5164 If you need to be scared of Hell to be a good man Colin, then I truly feel sorry for you.
@@dakini365 We have to give accountability for our actions, thoughts, deeds, behaviour as we are all going to be facing judgement. Rest assured I fear God and I don't want to end up in hell. Atheists hold onto moral values but one could argue "What would be the point if all is for naught and nothing exists after death". It's the belief in God that keeps us in check.
@@colindante5164 You came to a Rupert Spira video two years ago.. entitled MInd Cannot Understand Eternity.
You seem to be using your mind to pretend to yourself and others that you do understand it.
*FOOLS!*
Cop out
This is nonsense and unscientific, there is no evidence for this just nice words, the theory of relativity offers a much more sensible explanation.
What would your evidence seem like? Something other than awareness?
Or maybe you were sarcastic. I don't know.
Someone Silence just words,a reason to go to war,make money and enslave people
Lost interest and quit listening after the first minute. All that they did was waste my time by joking off topic.
u didnt undertand the main message lol
Eternity is a term of religious indoctrination and programming.
Maybe but it's all there really is...we cant really put words to it
@@jamesnorris8010 an infinite amount of time is still dependent upon time yet the properties of the anthropomorphic patriarchal good are beyond time and not affected by time. The question is, can anything exist in our realm or an alternative realm that are beyond the constraints of time?
That's a good question. I've felt what he is explaining. Youre right the moment we try to conceptualize it we dilute it. If anything does it has to be non physical...lol again a concept.
@@jamesnorris8010 I believe our universe does have infinite properties. Numbers although they require cognizance are infinite, there is no largest number. Space or distance at least within thought are infinite. Even if there were a big bang or some beginning of space or end to space an imaginary line can extend past that limit if there were one. Space or place only has three axis, x,y,z. So when people talk about another dimension it is a misnomer but that does not mean there are not other basic properties such as time space and matter that are not local or present in our realm, our physical reality or as we know it. Although philosophy as in the determination or as a basis of what we believe has two schools, foundationalism and coherentism, which both consider infinitism to be regression, I disagree, there are an infinite number of arguments to a debate of truth and logic, I think infinitism is a beginning to a deeper understanding.
I think the universe, conciousness and it origins are beyond our comprehension. Like it always was and that just how it is. I think it's cool that more people are questioning everything and digging deeper. The official narrative does not appeal to reason and is so chopped and screwed
This is nonsense. Elegant nonsense.
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U r ryt
Elegant poetry