Why Is There Manifestation?
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- It is not possible to ask consciousness a 'why' question.
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Why do people paint? Make music? Dance? Love? These questions are of the same nature to the question of manifestation, and the answer is also the same
Good one dude ❤
A dream never ask the dreamer why the dreamer dreamt that particular dream.Similarly we(dream) as an finite objects in infinite consciousness(dreamer) can't legitimately ask why there are manifestations(dreams).Period.
Beautifully explained by Rupert.
rupert is the personification of peace understanding and wisdom, such a wonderful teacher of non- duality 💗🙏
To answer the question succinctly, "Why is there manifestation?", by definition the infinite includes all possibilities and manifestation is but one.
The answer is for play or leela. The name of the game is to find who you are. Infinite consciousness creates the energy field called Maya and manifests itself into two halves yin and yang along with all paraphernalia. They are separated longing to find each other inspite of all the hurdles again created for a bit of thrill. When United the big bang theory reversals. The entire game being a circle and not linear. Represented by the symbol of Nataraja.
This is interesting, the idea of creating apparent separation and then longing know itself again. I believe there is an alternative big bang theory called the big bounce where the process repeats itself
Cant but marvel the ancient mind that conceptualised 'LEELA'
Rupert is so addictive...can't stop listening...
Why do people watch movies? For the unfolding, uncovering, discovery, drama, and joy of it. Experiencing finite is an option we choose, and we are masters of limitation.
its one of the best talks of his ! peace
Excellent answer! A girlfriend said to me once "why is the most irrelevant question". I finally understand that she was my guru. No matter my worldly concerns, the truth of "I Am" shines ever present.
Why is this guy so awesome? (My finite mind asking lol)
Oh my god. No word to say. The eye opener and a great talk i ever listened. Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
"Overflowing of love" is termed "Aananda" in traditional Advaita Vedaanta
That 'ananda' cannot be perceived by the dualistic mind. Whatever we discuss about it are but poor estimates.
There's certain things the mind will never know that's beyond its comprehension. No matter how many books are read or whatever explanation can be given it's not that. the mind is wanting an answer that is not of the mind.
amazing explanation, thank you so much Rupert.
Thank you so much. This is exciting and very clear knowledge.
we are beings of Light 💫💫💫
having forgotten how bright we shine💫
We love you Rupert.
In th coming deccades, Oxford will have to add a new course to its curriculum titled "The Logic of Non-Duality". This is not a joke. A new class of logic will arise from the talks of those who are directly in touch with the Self, this post being a perfect example of this kind of talk (Satsang). Logic from the perspective of the Absolute. As I always say, Rupert is a gem. Thanks for the post. Appreciated. I also want to remark that it may take Oxford deccades to catch up with this as I remember the video in wh,ch Rupert says "I wonder what they teach at Oxford". That was amazing to watch and listen.
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
Thank you, Rupert! Absolutely wonderful.
What a clarity!!! In fact, we will continue questioning though all questions are meaningless and there is no question.
Sooo powerful THANKYOU Rupert, THANKYOU GOD ,♥️
Why is there an observation/manifestation/limitation? Because you are an observer/manifestor/limiter. Don´t limit and you will not be limited. 🙂🙏
awesome teachings great wisdom
Genially explained! Thank you 🙏
The very nature of what Rupert calls Infinity is that it is even beyond the concepts of infinite and finite. It allows both, but is not bound by any possibility or probability. Therefor it does not exclude anything finite or the idea of infinite being.
And in from " seeing " . . .
"I don't have a mind of my own!" - Jane
So good..
Imagine you are an immortal pool of potential energy. You are at peace and blissful but it's endless existence. Suddenly you realize that you can create, split, differentiate between this and that. You simply start to play with it, because why not? You are blissful, you are boundless, you start to create simply because you can. Over time the creation becomes very complex.
Imagine that you are forever stuck in a prison cell. It's an empty room with bed, shower and a toilet. You are provided food every day but other than that it's just you and an empty room. If you would somehow receive a guitar for example, you would start to play with it and over time create more and more complex music. Why? Simply because you had nothing better to do and you had tons of free time.
How about you create because it is your very nature?
God does what God is.
There is no creator, because God is that of which everything is made.
I wouldn't begin stabbing myself in the eye though.
wouldnt effect the grand scheme
Pretty straight forward, and I can see how individuals who are not ready to hear this will project the crazyness upon the speaker.
This question is simply beyond anything the mind can come close to comprehending. Even Rupert's answer of "the overflowing of love" is inadequate, clearly displaying the limitations of language
Explained verry well!
Thank you❤
Yoo Rupert you always on point. So I’ve learned how to think while I sleep. Like if I have something I want to think about, sometimes I can still follow that train of thought and consciously ponder it while asleep. I can’t really explain it well yet. But either way I was basically contemplating manifestation and how Awareness doesn’t actually create anything because everything is Awareness/consciousness and it’s eternal , so the seeming creation of anything would simply be the awareness of a perspective that already exists and the stuff that already exist as part of that perspective. But I kept waking up every time I tried to think about WHY awareness does this, I couldn’t really figure it out. So I pulled up this video and within the first 43 seconds you literally addressed this and said it can’t be answered , it’s the wrong question to ask.. thank you. Going back to finish the video now.
He gives the best explanation s I've heard
The modulations within the field of infinite possibilities (One Mind) is a process. Assigned qualities like awareness or love are irrelevant. But of course we make concessions when using words to try to communicate ultimate reality.
Love, that’s why.
It's never not Consciousness' knowing of itself despite the mind mood. What is another for the mind is in reality itself for Consciousness.
Fantastic
The why question is a legitimate question, the fact is that God has a purpose independently of our minds, and it is not that we will be aware, the purpose is an ever increasing display of His glory in creation.
wonderful
The question "Am I aware" leads some people merely to a rational answer to this question. The know they are aware, because it is a well known scientific fact. Actually being aware of being aware might be one step to far for those who are completely submerged into a conceptual point of view.
Awareness IS ... only the Real
Aaah haaaa!!!! That is a fabulous way of explaining Mary knowing she’s Mary not Jane.
The Question is Why. The answer is "Why not ?"
But why 'why not'? And an infinite regress begins.
+Scrumpilump2000 smoke and mirrors ... that.s why lolololol
@@Scrumpilump2000 but why not 'why' ?
@@Scrumpilump2000 why to understand your true Nature. U are divine
Super
Allan Watts used to say that the universe “peoples” for the same reason that an apple tree “apples”
Rupert overlooks the fact that not many people have experienced the Infinite Mind, that's why it's hard to get some of his explanations. It's like explaining to a Martian the scent of a rose or color blue.
The why question can & has been answered in the past. And it's very simple. Its in the definition of the substrate.
If the substrate was inert or dead stuff, it wouldn't bring forth anything and there wouldn't be any manifestation. But because the substrate is conscious, it "HAS TO" stir at some point. Because if it didn't, that would be dead stuff - won't it? And why would we call a dead or inert substrate conscious?
And once it stirs, it sets in motion everything else.
A Course in Miracles provides a metaphysics that is helpful. It is that we are caught in the "bad dream" of separation created by projection of fear, the "tiny mad idea" of polarity. Waking up to the Oneness that is all that is, the I Am that Rupert points to, and the bad dream fades away just as a nightmare disappears as one awakes, sits up and with great relief realizes "it was just a dream!"
There is no 'I', just Consciousness, everything else is just concepts.
Tea. There is consciousness and tea.
And biscuits! Lets not forget the biscuits!
The reason why is an unfounded answer is very simple ... the why is This .. the how a why appears is That
I have just started A course in miracles... resonating deeply love it!
Agree the two modes (finite,infinite) full on are mutually exclusive. However it is possible to pervade the finite measure with infinite substrata making an immeasurable measure. Attention is so pliable, one can even have still wide attention whilst noticing arisings of shift in eye focus.
Fractals!!
the answer to everything!
God cannot, like men, wake up to God. So the only way to enjoy this bliss is waking up to Himself again and again in us.
How can anyone know that consciousness is infinite. I think that’s more of a belief.
Best response ive ever heard to the most existential question.. why!?
Because to answer immediately produces finitude. You’ve already lost. Infinity is boundless potentiality, an undifferentiated energy, love. It is one, never taking place or measurable. So then you try and pin one thing down and say why, well what are you even talking about or referring to?
Between two toughts there is still perception of something.
Freddy Staelens who is perceiving that still perception?
Aahha...its like a toad sitting inside a well, looking up and asking why is the sky circular in shape and that big.
Another good explanation. The answer the question "Why" is very well put to rest.
Negating the question "why" is a cop out. It is in our nature (and God's nature) to ask this question. If a teacher tells you to not question "why", RUN (don't walk)away.
The question "why" happens within space-time. Any attempt to answer this question will be a fall through a bottomless pit. Transcending space-time by just being aware is the way to eliminate the why. eg: A person with high fever gets delirious and asks why is the table flying, all we need to do is to give him a paracetamol. Questions too will subside along with the fever.
One can live within space-time and be fully Aware. Being and Doing are not exclusive states.
Absolutely, but if awareness fades space-time will dominate, and questions surface
Awareness as Being is totally receptive, so questions would not arise. I agree. But Awareness as Doing is active and asks questions aplenty.
Yes, Awareness without objects is a reality, but not the only one. I think that our communication problem stems from our different foundational beliefs. To me, our space-time lives are as real as our Eternal existence. Both relies upon and informs the other. It is a necessary symbiotic relationship. Different perceptions/poles of the same Reality. We are One and we are Many at once. Our lives are not an accident or mistake, although we can grow to be more - wiser and more enlightened.
I do not come to this conclusion out of naivety or ignorance. I once espoused absolute non-dualism, but my direct experiences have led me to another view of Reality.
Oh well, I guess we are both going to find out one way or another....
Peace!
Gods infinite being knows all. Infinite or finite
In my own weird and maybe unique experience the answer I got for this was 'playfulness'. Maybe I got the only or closest answer my mind could understand.
This is so excellent. I used to object to this thing about infinity not being able to contain anything finite. Yet in listening to this, it reminds me of an experience I had of being taken for a journey (by an orb, believe it or not) and shown, via flying above scenes in my own life, how completely pure Truth, real truth is.
Even 1% impurity, and it's no longer Truth. Even an impure motive for telling 100% accurate facts and it's not Truth. It's rather akin to the difference between love, as we know it in 3D, and divine Love - they are nothing alike.
Love his explanation of the uselessness of the why questions, too. I knew they were worthless - relative to awakening - but this was elegantly explained. Great vid!
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recently - don't know what's being said.
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@@TheseEyesGod hi, it is when someone wanted to put a comment, but wrote nothing and sent it void. What stays is your "name".
Peace
Maybe it’s like asking why do we dream when we sleep? To experience. But we don’t choose to dream/experience, it just happens spontaneously. As above so below.
Wauw!
the truth is niether ONE nor TWO . It is AS IT IS.
The infinite One is not in any
way the creator of a real multiplicity.
It's just the dreamer of the countless many
which never loses its unicity.
At 3:14 is a good question. Why. After all, we did not invent consciousness or existence, and even though IT has always existed --- and we are in essence THAT --- laws, nature, structure as existing isn't from my doing...
Rupert looks a bit like the Ben Harper character on the sitcom My Family.
Human = an infinite part (electromagnetical connection) in a finite part (body), and knows by a finite mind (to be aware of this second order or know of knowing)
That which knows of that is not " human " .... Direct
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9:50 ->11:44 If the mind ceases to exist after the asking ourselves the question "am I aware" how does it have the new thought "yes, I am" when it comes backs into existence? The Question, "Am I aware" is asked in duality, we "go" to nonduality for the answer or seeming experience, then duality returns with an answer. It "seems" like there is a form of communication or passing of information/experience from nonduality to duality that "I am aware". Of course that cannot be as there is just consciousness/awareness only the whole time. Communication require 2 seperate things to communicate with each other, duality.
Because thoughts, emotions, sensations, experiences will always appear. There is no doer, no thinker, thoughts just pop and then disappear, but we identify ourselves with thought and that's suffering.
I am dimming the beacon just now by stuffing myself with post festival deep ried sweets
I know the humen vessel was made but where do souls come from how did we come to exist?
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Be. Cause
if you really want this question answered, read "conversations with god" , it´s explained there in great detail
EineFaserImGewebeDesLebens Yes indeed, I have read it dozens of times, and yet at some other point, from another perspective, the same question comes up.
Lol. That moment when Rupper see that there is totally enough room for an object to exist in infinity. Zenon paradox. The infinite football team on an infinite line of chair. The infinite universe with (what looks like) objects in it.
or why different patterns emerge with different frequencies?(cymatics);-)
We are the infinite consciousness, and our finite mind keeps us from realizing that we are the infinite consciousness, right? So what or who creates our finite mind? If the infinite consciousness also creates our finite mind, then why does the consciousness create us to prevent us from knowing that we are the consciousness?
I have seen a documentary about the universe called nothing. they explain that particles emerge from nothing all the time. isn't beautiful?
So reproducing and/or creating life is an act of love????? I love this statement however there is so much horror in the world that it is difficult to swallow this statement.............what about the child born into a place where there is no food and only starvation???? Is it "out of love" to create a life in these circumstances???? So much suffering - a baby zebra just born and snatched up by a lion - yes I know - food...........but brutal and heart breaking non-the-less.........it sometimes seems to me that there is too much suffering, pain, sadness in the world to speak of "love" being behind all manifestation..............
This is a complex question/issue isn't it. I sometimes wonder if there could be other beings outside of this infinite God. I know this seems a paradoxical idea, but my understanding hasn't yet revealed it to be an impossibility.
Many years ago I had a drug induced experience where I saw the introduction of an outside element to consciousness which resulted in the manifestation we now experience. It seemed like a meeting of lovers that changed them both forever.
Perhaps I saw it this way because of my understanding or lack of understanding at the time. Who knows. But the whole thing is so fascinating
But how could there be someone separate from infinity? There can only be unity in this concept. Everything exists inside of it. But funny you say two lovers, because I have a feeling light itself and consciousness are entangled somehow. Not necessarily being two separate beings, but as the fundamental creative principle for duality.
Rupert what is your opinion on Ram Dass ??
It seems to me that by creating the finite, a part of I AM is playing "hide and seek" with itself
Yogananda said, do not ask why there is a manifestation, ask how? He may have been getting at the same thing Rupert is getting at here. All God had to do was set manifestation in motion through one cosmic primordial action. The Word, as it were. Just one instance of distinction, of a differentiation, however closely joined to its source. The rest was a matter of free will.
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How can a finite be in the middle of the infinite??? Where would be the middle of the infinite since the infinite has no boundaries?
Why? Because it can.
Why is there manifestation ? Manifestation is (apparent) suffering, so why is there suffering ? Because we fell asleep. I don't know why we fell asleep though but I assume it wasn't a conscious effort. All of "manifestation" is only a dream in consciousness so "manifestation" isn't really real. And therefore nothing can really be said about it in my opinion. Which "truth" can be said about a dream from within the dream ?
Isn't it the case that infinity, by definition, contains all things finite?
YES!!!
We can not say a word about the unmanifest everything we say is the manifest thought.We can not say even it’s infinite because as we see finite exist also in the manifest which is in the unmanifest.
As you identify with infinite consciousness you experience it's faith.
As you identify with your body you experience its outcome.
As you identify with your mind, you experience its outcome.
Etc
As you identify with a car you experience its outcome
Your car gets bumped becomes i got bumped.
But what happens when no identification is made?
It would seem that no reflexion is happening. No mirror. No image.
No time. No space.
No awareness of anything.
So instantaneously, the next moment happens.
And after 10 days of meditation the meditator is unaware that any time has passed.
Its only faith when you don't have experience
As much as I like his teachings, that example with a finite object making infinite space finite is just bollocks.
You are so totally correct! Infinity consists of a lot of finite objects. All of them in fact.
@@Daniel-hz7tk my question is could it be infinite without being finite, or without finite objects in it?
@@mo2119 My feeling or sense of what infinity is, is all inclusive. So everything we ever perceive as finite is just a fragment of the infinite. So each of our seemingly separate finite lives are actually parts of one infinite whole. It's a slippery concept. I do not see how anything could exist outside of the infinite. Unless I am defining infinite wrong, nothing could. So infinite HAS to contain EVERYTHING because if it doesn't contain even one thing, it is not infinite, it is suddenly limited and finite. So then it is 2 finite things. But it is also about perspective, because if those 2 finite things exist inside one other "thing" that thing is infinite. It is a never-ending thought puzzle
@@Daniel-hz7tk thx for that, very interesting. Most philosophers talk about a singular source of infinity, but I’m wondering if it even had a beginning where it was actually whole without objects or any finiteness at all. Just itself in some mystical non-dual experience. I guess I gotta wait and see 🤷♂️
Theoretical questions are cunning diversions.
An effectual response to such a question reveals what is being concealed
by the mind's theoretical question, and places the REAL LIFE question
directly into the lap of the questioner.
Therefore, regarding the theoretical question presented by this gentleman:
"Why would Infinite Consciousness choose to overlook its infinity to manifest as an illusion?...
"Why does it want to do such a thing?"
I would offer this response:
"Well, you are Infinite Consciousness. Why are YOU choosing to overlook your infinity and manifest
as a finite self within a finite world?"
THAT response requires the questioner to look squarely at what is actually happening here and now,
in his very own being, because - in fact - that's WHERE Infinite Consciousness IS being and manifesting
The mind will give NO answer to that question, and it will cease to ask any other.
It falls completely silent when its coverup operations are revealed.
And in those moments, little by little, we discover that WE, Infinite Consciousness, have been
CHOOSING to be asleep to our infinite nature, CHOOSING to let the mind perform its undercover
operations, CHOOSING to pretend we are autonomous, finite persons - and, at some point,
(thank God!) CHOOSING not to do that any more.
You have to leave the body to see your real self.When you re enter the body it's like being dipped in honey and it starts to cover the real self,but every time you retain a little more of the self
Rupert please correct me. I think what we feel as awareness is life which is awareness with centre or understanding that is self aware the unmanifest awareness doesn’t have self so can not be self aware,we don’t know what is the unmanifest at all.
That’s sounds plausible to me. Like the unmanifest is equivalent to the subconscious. It comes into being from a spontaneous urge or how he beautifully put it as for no reason at all, like when a woman gets the urge to have a baby. An overflowing of “love”. Of creative potentiality.
From this view we can infer a solution for the omnipotence paradox. God even has the power to become non-omnipotent ( of course this would be an illusion )
why not...?...consciousness seems to expand itself..out of love ...love of experience of finite awareness ?
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Rupert wears a wristwatch to connect to the consciousness who acknowledge time exists
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Why would 'GOD' or Awareness or Consciousness WANT anything?!
It has no desires or needs or preferences. It just IS.
Yep ... God desires/needs/wants " ............. "
Why not? Maybe it got tired of being in one state for eternity. What ever state infinite consciousness is...
all my understanding were diminished yesterday when i heard his point of view of consiouness as the fundamental. i was studying for 15 hours yesterday trying to work it out. so previousl i had found all the answer by contemplating however yesterday i felt the need for some confirmationj so i tookm it to the internet. it appear that there is too much information to suggest that the brain is the fndamental. and consiounesss is way more complex than a metap[hysical pool of energy. im not convinced on this theroy
its consiouness only its not consiouness as the fundamental. There are scientists with this wiew, relatively few thou but check out Bernardo Kastrup