Porsche Cayenne 958 92A transfer case fix
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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In this video I talk about the fix for the transfer case in my 2013 Cayenne 958 92A VR6. This could also work for the Touareg and other VW/AUDI/Porsche cars.
2013 Cayenne Turbo owner here, 40k miles, heard a weird sound while driving. About the same sound as driving over the expansion joints on a road. Anyway rotated the tires, looked into the carrier bearing, videoed it by strapping my phone to the tcase mount no problem there. Watched this first it got me thinking and then another video, ordered fluid on eBay for $32/qt changed my tcase fluid and it’s 100% gone. Thank you for the help.
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching.
Hello im french and ill trying to explain my problems i recently buy a cayenne turbo 2011 4.8 and i have a exactly same issue problem with a sound like a deformation of the tire a sound ( clac clac clac ) at very low speed under 50km/h at gear 1 after 2 and 3 after some many research i found the problem of trasnfer case and after some other research i found you video 1 (explanation) and 2 video the DIY of changing oil of trasnfert case i try it and now its work like a charm ! no sound , no problem at low speed im gonna make a second oil change in one week maybe thanks for you video thanks for your help^you just help me to save 6000k Euro im so happy i hope the oil change will fixe definity the problem THANKS MAN YOU ROCK !
Have a 2013 GTS with 31k miles, facing the possibility of needing to replace the transfer case (and being 5 months out of warranty) I gave your suggestion a try, after the second fluid change the issue was gone, did a few more just to ensure. Worked great! Thanks
I did this on my 2012 and it amazed us, we are on are second change, zero hesitation, zero hesitation, My grandma had one tooth, and she would always say I’m a kiss you in the mouth and make us laugh, brother this works, I’m gonna kiss you in the mouth laugh out loud amazing job thanks for the help will spread this to others
HAHA! I'm happy it worked out for you! I felt the say way cause I saved myself a lot of cash!
Thank you so much for this video, just purchased my 2014 Cayenne 70K miles, one owner dealer maintained vehicle. Your description of the light bucking matched my experience, had my indy replace the fluid and the car drives like new, no more hesitation during light acceleration. Thank you!
Glad I was able to help Porsche extended the warranty. So next time it happens have them check it out.
Still good? Have the same problem now
If you car doesn’t fall under the extended warranty then change the fluid. A fluid change most of the time will fix it.
So helpful ,I had my front and rear differential and Trans case oil changed.I was having the same problems you stated.The knock the bucking, the feel like it.s missing..
.I no longer have these problems..You're spot on about this..
SOLVED MY CAYENNE STUTTERING PROBLEM!!!!Appreciate the video. I had a similar problem in my Cayenne 2011 base model. The transmission seem to be skipping or jumping under acceleration. It felt like a misfire but there were no codes found on OBD interrogation. Purchased two quarts of ravenol. The problem seemed to go away after one change. Now it runs very smoothly ,accelerates very well. No stutters or hesitation, I'm very happy! I did spray out the transfers case with break free and blow dry with compressed air prior to refill. Will post an update after a few hundred miles. Thanks again!👍
No problem! If you haven’t used that second quart I would drain and fill it again after a while. Help to really clean it out good. Thanks for watching. I have a part 2 this video coming up soon.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Hi, what is the specification of the oil?
God freaking Bless you. You're a damn genius! You saved me $2000 and spent $200 on fluid instead. 🤘🤘🤘❣️🙏🙏
Haha, Another happy viewer! I'm glad it worked out for you. I felt the same way after I did it and it worked.
Still good?
Hey man thank you! I changed the fluid once and the problem disappeared. Anyone with this problem should follow your lead. That won't be sorry. Thanks again!!
I’m glad it worked out for you. This saves so much money. Thanks for watching!
Kevin, you are absolutely amazing! Thank you for your detailed video on changing fluid multiple times four to be exact, I have 190,000 miles on my Chyanne and it worked like a charm. G - D bless you
You saved me 5k
I’m glad I was able to help.. Thanks for watching.
Are you on the original t case still?
The original is still in there
Still on the same transfer case? I'm on my 2nd fluid change without improvement
Unbelievable ; I last changed fluid , only 4 yrs ago but recently became bad , even unpleasant with jerks . One change with RAVENOL transfer fluid TF 0870,and almost 100% better . Can’t believe it . I’ll now do two more changes . Thank you
( my friend who has an atf business said it wouldn’t work … and it has )
MUITO OBRIGADO, ME AJUDOU DEMAIS. MEU CAYENNE GTS 2014 ESTAVA DANDO UNS TRANCOS EM BAIXA ROTAÇÃO (1.000 - 2.000 RPM) E BAIXA VELOCIDADE (2º E 3ª MARCHA). ME DIAGNOSTICARAM COM PROBLEMA DE BANDEJA MAS EU PERCEBIA QUE NÃO ERA. RESOLVI TROCAR O FLUÍDO DA CAIXA DE TRANSFERÊNCIA APÓS ASSISTIR SEU VÍDEO E O DEFEITO DESAPARECEU NA PRIMEIRA TROCA! MUITO OBRIGADO!!!
Glad it worked for you!
Follow up on my Ravenol transfer case oil change, still running great no problems in the transmission. Going to do the front and rear transfer cases thanks for the videos. If I could only find a fix for my blown PCM amp. Bluetooth speaker for now.
Have you tried picking up a used amp? People have been getting letters in the mail about a recall for the transfer case or something to that effect. I haven’t received my letter yet.
If its a bose one, find a bose specialist online and send it off. It cost me around £200 in the UK.
Kevin. Thank you for this video. I've noticed my Cayenne (2016) was starting to shake a bit during acceleration (like going over speed bumps) under 40mph. I've changed the TC fluid once - the issue went away. A week later, I changed it again (it was much clearer) and now the car drives as new. I guess the number of fluid changes depends on the current condition of the TC and how contaminated the fluid is.
Yes that’s what I have noticed. I just kept changing till it came out clean after driving around for a while. It’s been 10k since my last change. I plan on doing it again to see what the fluid looks like. I’m not having issues it’s just for curiosity.
I have 2016cayenne , under 40km/h feels little shaking (like going uneven road surface ).It’s that same situation?My car 47,000km right now...never change the transfer case fluid...
I would wait on changing the transfer case fluid. From what I understand Porsche has issued a recall. I don’t know if it is for all Cayennes all over the world or not. I would look into that or call the dealer before you do anything. If the recall doesn’t apply for where you live then I would definitely change the fluid.
@@lyz5894 If the recall doesn't apply to you (and Porsche wants $) - try changing the fluid in TC. It costs only around $100 for 2 fluid changes.
Still good?
Starting to feel that lower speed hesitation too in my 2012 base. 95k miles. Thinking this is a possible first step. Thanks for video
This video saved me a transfer case!!! On my second change now! Mine is S Diesel 4.2L
Thanks I’m happy I was able to help.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage how many litres you must fill ?
I believe it’s .7 of a liter. You can just fill till it starts to come out.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage thank you for your response. How many kilometres you change the change the oil ?
I was changing it every other oil change. But now that they have extended the warranty I’m waiting to see what happens.
Porsche just mailed me an extended warranty for the Transfer Case! 2014-2018 MACANS. Please Pin this comment so people see it. They’re fixing it for FREE!!
I’m planning to do an update video once I get my letter. I’ll also update my older videos to this.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage awesome!! Thank you . I was so excited when I got this in the mail the other night . My wife cried of happiness lol.
Haha, This is going to be a relief for many people.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage 👏🏼😁 Thank the Lord! 🙏🏼
I just did a change as well after the slightest indication this was happening. I bought the 1-owner car used and assumed the fluid had never been changed. Like everyone else, it was black as night. I sent a sample off to Blackstone labs and they came back with crazy off the charts wear across all metals. They could not say for sure if this was just "wear-in" since they did not have a large enough data set of the first change metal levels. Nonetheless, I will put another 5K miles on it and send another sample to them to compare the baseline. I think just changing over and over without getting some analysis done may be throwing good money after bad. Not a criticism, just an observation that without data, we are just making an educated guess. It is also well-documented that when Porsche does replacements, they also move the drain hose up to the engine bay to prevent fluid contamination.
Still good?
Post the data
Hi, thank you for the video. I have a whirling noise under my vehicle . Is this similar to what everyone has experienced? I replaced transfer case oil once have about 800 miles since. I did not see any metal shavings. I also did front differential. Anyone else have the whirling noise?
Appreciate your video. I just replaced the transfer case fluid in our 2014 Cayenne 958 diesel and wondering if the noise you mention is a constant humming sound or increased on acceleration/under load? Thanks
Thank you so much, I did as you said you are a real Life Saver, grateful that God sent you as a messenger to help us out. You have a great heart. I wish God blesses you and you’re family with health happiness and peace.
Thanks for the kind words. I’m glad I was able to help. All the same to yours!
Hi, is the original “Porsche” transfer case oil good ?
Do you think the warranty would cover the fluid change? Or would Porsche most likely want to replace the transfer case? Something tells me they will just change it out since they can't change the oil, run it for a few hundred miles, and repeat the process a few times till it's gone. And why should I care right, I get a brand new transfer case for free? Never mind, I just answered my own questions LOL.
Haha, I have no idea what Porsche is going to do. I still haven't got my letter yet. Once I get it I'll talk to the local dealer and see what they say. A new transfer case would be nice.
Can I use this one for 958 turbo s 2014??
You make videos totally cool!!! Thanks a lot!!!
Thanks for watching. This should also work for the CTTS. It uses the same fluid
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage I need to fix them exactly. Thanks!!
Does the 3.0 V6 and above suffer with the same issue? Great vids btw.
thanks for sharing this, is this difficult to do? are there any video's on how to do this? Are there any other issues to consider when buying these, let's say 2015+ model year....
It’s not too difficult I have a video on my channel that shows how to
Kevin, Thanks for the tip! Do you have a video for the transfer case fluid change?
I do not have a video for that. I think I will making one soon though. The change is quite easy, you don’t even need to jack up the vehicle.
Kevin’s European Garage that will be great! I’m guessing 2016 model should be the same since both are 958.2
@@TamerNassar01 I'm pretty sure it is
Did the dealer give u an explanation with the extended warranty i have a 11 cayenne hybrid thats jerking horribly build date is 03/11 couple months past the 10 year mark :/
It should be 10 years based on the date the vehicle was first sold and not the build date. You are pretty close I would call them right away and have them look at it.
What fluid should I use for the front & rear diffs? 2011 Cayenne Base V6
Any quality synthetic 75-90 will work. Anything from motul, mobil1, ravenol a good quality fluid would be fine. If the rear diff is locking you’ll need
It sounds like the fluid is bad from the dealer so if you buy one new change the fluid right away the fluid has viscosity problems
The fluid gets really contaminated. Porsche says the fluid is lifetime. Most of the issues would be fixed if they changed the schedule to a more frequent change.
Great info
This worked for me! First replaced tranny fluid and transfer case fluid, didn’t work. Then replaced transfer case fluid a second time, this time using heavier fluid (not OEM). The vibrations that were happening at low gear ( 3 /4) completely gone! Do you think this is the actual fix?? Porsche charges $6K to replace the transfer case!!! This fix cost $500....
Well I’ve gone about 15k since I have done all my flushes. From the feedback I’ve been getting and what I’ve heard from a couple Porsche techs say is that they try and drain it first and see what happens and go from there. I think that if you catch it soon enough and change the fluid you’ll be ok. Wait too long changing the fluid won’t help the damage might be too much. I think anyone who owns this car should change it every 30k. I bet if everyone did that this might not even be an issue. It’s one of those things the fluid isn’t too expensive and the labor Isn’t too much. Just change it. It’s like an insurance policy and changing often can’t hurt never changing will.
This is great, Thanks
Does the Ravenol Transfer Fluid work for V8 4.8L engine (ex. GTS)? Thank you for this video!
Yes it should work. This fluid can be used in the transfer case of all Cayennes and Macans per the Ravenol website. Thanks for watching!
It's awesome stuff! Use Ravenel to change the transfer case fluid in my 2015 Cayenne S with 54,000 miles and the difference was immediately night and day, completely smooth running whereas before on acceleration from a stop felt like you were on a gravel road, slight bumpy feeling.
TC
Annapolis, MD
did you change the plugs every time or reuse the old ones? message boards suggest new plugs, but that seems excessive.
I didn’t change the plugs. Just be carful not to over tighten them. I have seen people crack to the case. I have not had any seepage from the plugs. I wouldn’t worry about reusing them.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage i figured that was the case. thanks for the info.
Only snug the plug, a little thread sealer or Teflon tape is good so you don't have to over tighten... Going to do my transfer case fluid again tomorrow. Made a night and day difference the first time I changed it last year at 53k.
Thanks for the video. How sure is you might have the TC issue? I didn’t got a cayenne since I saw on forums this was an almost sure issue you will have
I’m pretty sure most will experience this issue. But if you change the fluid many people have seen all their problems go away. I’ve been free of issues for close to 20k miles now. Most of the time it can be solved with a fluid change.
A great many of the Cayennes with this issue since 2011 had the transfer cases replaced under warranty, just look for one that has already been replaced.
@@megaman4201 but don't they change it to same transfercase which going tk cause the same problem in the future? Hmm
Hi Kevin, thanks for the video. Im driving a Macan S Diesel do you think ravenol is compatible? Do you use it for flushing and replace with Porsche original fluid at final round? Thanks
According to the Ravenol site the DTF-1 is the fluid to use and that is the new name for the TF-0870 I mentioned in the video.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Thank you Kevin. I just replaced it with TF-0870, manage to find it in Malaysia. Do you recommend to stick to this fluid or we should replace it with Porsche fluid after 4 times of flushing?
You can stick with this. I’ve been using it for 20k miles changing it every other oil change. It’s been just fine for me
Hi Kevin, I had this exact issue and did what you recommended. The existing oil came out full black, and at the 3rd change the oil came out pretty much light color. (I went through 3 new cases basically). The car felt much better after the 2nd change but the growling noise came back a little after. The 3rd time didnt make any change. Now my oil changes were about 2-3 weeks apart but I drive the car probably just 100-120 miles a week. So now Im still having the growling noise when making turns. Any issues you see with what I did? or any recommendations? Has yours totally quit the noise when turning? Thank you!
I don't really see anything wrong with what you did. It might be one of those things depending on the condition of the transfer case before you started. How many miles? You might need to drive it around a little to get the oil circulating through the clutch pack. I went well over a few 100 miles before a drain and fill. Mine finally quieted down on the 4th drain and fill. I might hear a little whine on a sharp slow hard turn but its so infrequent that it doesn't bother me. My biggest issue was the bucking in a straight line, its been almost 10k since my last change. I was going to drain it at my next engine oil change to see how the oil looks. My first drain was done around 70k. I would drive it for a while and see what happens.
Kevin’s European Garage thanks. 64k right now. Please report back when you change the oil next time, Im curious how it’ll look like.
How many miles/how long did you go between each change?
I would go a least a few hundred miles between changes just to make sure the fluid circulates through the entire case
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage ok ty so much sir
Porsche will warranty it thru mid April free.
I just had my transfer case replaced a month ago. I saw a few videos that talked about replacing the fluid. Do you think it's good to change the T.C. Fluid when you do an oil change? Which I am probably going to do every 5000 miles on my truck
Disappointed that porsche used tcase and diffs with such low fluid capacity. They are known to over design everything but yet each is only 1 qt capacity. Come on guys, ny toyota 4runner has bigger tcase and diffs with much lower hp and torque
Let me say first I was about to type something about this being bullshit, then I saw all the comments... holy shit, nice one
But then, still, does anyone have an explanation? A hypothesis? A theory on what's going on and how come this actually fixes anything?
Hi there Kevin,which transfer case fluid did you change out 4 times?is it the fwd transfer case fluid,or center transfer case fluid or the LSD fluid?
The transfer case that is attached directly to the rear of the transmission. takes approximately .7 liters
How is the performance now on your car?
The transfer case has been fine since the fluid change. Porsche came out with a new extended warranty for them. I will have a little video coming out soon about what the dealer told me
Went to the dealer, Porsche extended the warranty on the transfer case to 10 Years. It will get replaced. Otherwise it’s a $8K job.
dealers offer 10 year extended warranties on the transfer case. your fix maybe is great for something more than 10 years old but less than that go get a new one for FREE!!!!!
Yes when i first made this video they didn’t have the warranty yet.
Just buy a Lexus rx an be finished arseing around with a crapy Porsche cayenne I wouldn't buy one with your money never mind my own hoho s
I would buy a Lexus but I then I would have to look at it every time I -want- need to drive it.