ReNova SSTO Rocket Concept Developed by Martin

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  • čas přidán 2. 03. 2024
  • The rocket engines are arranged in a ring around the major diameter of a SSTO.
    The hydrogen tanks form what is , in effect, a a large plug, with a toroidal oxygen tank mounted forward.. The rockets are enclosed in an air duct equipped with adjustable inlets. A jettisonable shroud extends the mixing area down stream of the rockets. The conical payload fairing serves as an inlet spike during accent through the atmosphere. The air enter through the inlet, mixes with the rocket exhaust, is heated and expands past the plug-shaped aft body, thus contributing additional thrust. The mixing shroud is jettisoned and the inlets are closed after leaving the atmosphere
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Komentáře • 149

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc Před 2 měsíci +59

    Imagine a world where all of these designs were built and flown.

    • @ziggystardust4627
      @ziggystardust4627 Před 2 měsíci +10

      That's what this channel's all about!

    • @jmi5969
      @jmi5969 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yes. Project Orion with tetraborane boosters. Nice.

    • @serpentphoenix
      @serpentphoenix Před 2 měsíci +10

      It would be as fictional as the goverments who got their act together to build and launch them.

    • @zfear6959
      @zfear6959 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@serpentphoenix and thi, friends, is why we can't have nice things.

    • @hubbsllc
      @hubbsllc Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sure. Basically one without our extraordinarily top-heavy wealth distribution and forever wars.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Kind of reminds me of Boeing's Big Onion and Chrysler's SSTO proposal. One thing about the large diameter vehicles is the mass ratio between tank structure and volume should become more favorable the bigger you get.

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yes, the square cube law, wich is why it's hard to see very small rockets

  • @jmwoods190
    @jmwoods190 Před 2 měsíci +21

    SOCTO- Single Oreo Cupcake To Orbit

  • @Relativumspace
    @Relativumspace Před 2 měsíci +9

    There are so many SSTO concepts... but no one flown at this day.

    • @Wayoutthere
      @Wayoutthere Před 2 měsíci +2

      Very poor stability and drag among other things.

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 Před 2 měsíci +1

      SSTOs are (mostly) not worth the cost.
      They have horrible payload mass to rocket mass ratio, and unless made to be reusable, they are too expensive for a s job that a 2 stage vehicle can easily do.
      An SSTO using more unconventional engines could work however. Something like a nuclear thermal engine would give it enough ISP, or something extreme like NSWR would make it the perfect Single Stage to Anywhere vehicle (if you forget about your ground being filled with nuclear waste)

    • @PaulZyCZ
      @PaulZyCZ Před měsícem +1

      @@davisdf3064 There's the laser option. About a decade ago there was a proposal to use laser to heat the fuel while launching the rocket or sending the spaceship to other celestial body. With the latter there's a caveat gigantic lasers in space have bad reputation, but if on ground? If I remember the proposal correctly, the rocket would need 1/10 of the fuel for the launch. Laser beam would replace the oxidizer.
      Rocket or space plane.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Před 19 dny

      ​@@PaulZyCZ The laser launch was an interesting idea, the problem was that for 3 minutes, it needs absolute gigawatts of power. So either you co-ordinate your power demand with dozens of private companies, or you end up building your own nuclear plants. Either of which isn't realistic

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff Před 2 měsíci +19

    If it a bird?
    Is it a plane?
    No it's a teepee attached to an aerospike!!

    • @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
      @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 Před měsícem +1

      I like how it blows off part of the fairing halfway up to convert the aerospike engine to vacuum performance

  • @ScienceRules118
    @ScienceRules118 Před 2 měsíci +30

    57 seconds since upload.
    I find it a little odd how all of these 60s/70s SSTO concepts wind up having similar shapes.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc Před 2 měsíci +15

      It makes sense, given the knowledge of physics and the state of computer and analogue modelling, there are only so many shapes that work.

    • @zfear6959
      @zfear6959 Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@ptonpccame here to say this.
      Paraphrased, play by physics's rules, the playing pieces tend to group onto sets that achieve the respective goals of the game. 🤷

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Probably due to square cube law and the idea of reusability

    • @MrMichkov
      @MrMichkov Před 2 měsíci +1

      You can argue with physics and there is precious little in terms of simulation capability back in the day. If all you got is a slide rule and a t square that is what you end up with. Even the modern ones aren't all that different from a cone.

    • @trout1187
      @trout1187 Před 2 měsíci

      Now you know USA steels & copycats atheres Ideas

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Now do a video of the nuclear engined Liberty Ship SSTO

  • @DragonSFS
    @DragonSFS Před 2 měsíci +10

    This sorta looks like a giant ramjet

    • @1959Edsel
      @1959Edsel Před 2 měsíci +8

      It would have functioned somewhat like one as well. Look up air-augmented rocket for more info.

  • @terencewong-lane4309
    @terencewong-lane4309 Před 2 měsíci +9

    *Spectacular*

  • @centaur1a
    @centaur1a Před 2 měsíci +3

    Well, the launch was small. No launch tower (how are the crew or personal get to the ship? Wasn’t the design have the ship land on land with four retractable landing pads? If it did at sea. How was it recovered?

  • @PaulZyCZ
    @PaulZyCZ Před měsícem

    Again great animation!
    Recommendation for a future video: About a decade ago there was a proposal to use ground-based laser instead of the oxidizer. So 1/10 of the fuel required and in theory it could serve for both starts and to heat a spaceship traveling between Earth orbit and Luna or even Mars. I'm not sure if there was a full concept or just a study, but something you could take a look at, Hazegrayart. :)

  • @steveengleman9257
    @steveengleman9257 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I don't know what software you're using, but your graphics are awesome!!

  • @skrape99
    @skrape99 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Now I have to look into this design to find out what the specific impulse was. The Meteor air to air missile uses an air-augmented rocket like the.

    • @jamesbatchelor3834
      @jamesbatchelor3834 Před 2 měsíci +4

      It had about double the ISP of its contemporaries, because it was an air-augmented design. The problem was that building and carrying the shroud to drive extra airflow into the exhaust added so much mass that the ISP advantage was negated.

  • @donteverusehandles
    @donteverusehandles Před 2 měsíci

    Spontaneous unscheduled disassembly will be huge

  • @therichieboy
    @therichieboy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Superb work as always. I think there may be some scaling issues with the earth at the initial orbit scenes.

  • @roslyntaber9580
    @roslyntaber9580 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dwayne chéri mon si merveilleux amour Love so Space with u chéri
    Love so lifftof with u Dwayne Elliot chéri
    Its so beautiful so bright and so magic Dwayne chéri like u mon amour ...

  • @user-yk7yv8rb5i
    @user-yk7yv8rb5i Před 2 měsíci

    I love these videos they are well done great ❤

  • @gerstmanndavid
    @gerstmanndavid Před měsícem

    Seems like it would have to overcome an enormous amount of atmospheric drag.

  • @jim2lane
    @jim2lane Před 2 měsíci +3

    If we see parts being jettisoned and staging taking place, the it's not truly SSTO

    • @hlumasays
      @hlumasays Před měsícem

      If it contained an engine your comment would be true.

  • @mariocos7252
    @mariocos7252 Před 2 měsíci

    Come è bello, la fantascienza, oggi con questa grafica!

  • @NelsonGoncalves-sh8lq
    @NelsonGoncalves-sh8lq Před 2 měsíci +1

    Magnífico

  • @m.lifestylesreality3397
    @m.lifestylesreality3397 Před měsícem

    Are those videos made using ksp ?

  • @pseudotasuki
    @pseudotasuki Před 2 měsíci +4

    The nozzle ring it drops seems counterproductive. An aerospike shouldn't have flow separation issues.

    • @stratometal
      @stratometal Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not an aerospike. The description says how it works.

    • @pseudotasuki
      @pseudotasuki Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@stratometal It describes a toroidal aerospike (engines clustered around a central ramp) but it also answered my question. The engine is air-augmented, which is basically the rocket equivalent of a turbofan. Once the air thins out, the bypass duct becomes dead weight and they drop it.

    • @goatofpower
      @goatofpower Před 2 měsíci

      I was more worried how they could possibly have cooled that ring while exposed to full rocket plume!

    • @pseudotasuki
      @pseudotasuki Před 2 měsíci

      @@goatofpower There's a layer of relatively cold air between the engine exhaust and ring.

  • @longtsun8286
    @longtsun8286 Před 2 měsíci

    Well done.

  • @redlogicsquare
    @redlogicsquare Před 2 měsíci +2

    Tagine rocket gets hot FAST!

  • @atptourfan
    @atptourfan Před 2 měsíci +1

    Soooo... where is the propellant stored? Is there any useful payload to orbit??

    • @FastSloth87
      @FastSloth87 Před 2 měsíci +2

      The propellants are stored in the aerospike cone, bottom hydrogen and a ring tank for LOX. LEO Payload: 423,000 kg (932,000 lb) to a 185 km orbit.

  • @nickdinnen4667
    @nickdinnen4667 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What sort of payload did they have in mind? I guess fairing width becomes less of a concern with a vehicle this wide!

    • @jamesbatchelor3834
      @jamesbatchelor3834 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ReNova could carry about 450 tonnes, in the same class as ROMBUS.

  • @joansparky4439
    @joansparky4439 Před 2 měsíci

    splendid

  • @barbotal
    @barbotal Před měsícem

    Пепелац же. И музыка подходящая 😂

  • @hubbsllc
    @hubbsllc Před 2 měsíci

    So this is basically launching a whole damn Disney World ride into orbit.

  • @FatovMikhail
    @FatovMikhail Před 2 měsíci

    i think it shouldn't sink so deep into the water, that's the whole point of the shape to keep engines dry. it's mostly just an empty barrel

  • @pontuswendt2486
    @pontuswendt2486 Před 2 měsíci

    AMAZINGNES!!!

  • @stratometal
    @stratometal Před 2 měsíci

    Maybe explain how it works in the video itself instead of only in the description. Several people think its an aerospike.

  • @-Ripcord-
    @-Ripcord- Před 16 dny

    What program is this?

  • @stevensonDonnie
    @stevensonDonnie Před 2 měsíci

    It doesn’t need fuel talks because it runs on space air!

  • @wascargerardohernandezemil4455

    Aerodynamics is on sabbatical honey

  • @orion14operative
    @orion14operative Před 2 měsíci

    So only one stage needed to get in to orbit?

  • @Kalaerospace
    @Kalaerospace Před 2 měsíci

    Is it really an ssto if shroud is ejected ?

  • @deutandev1728
    @deutandev1728 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Who's Martin?
    Anyway nice try, Martin

    • @DragonSFS
      @DragonSFS Před 2 měsíci +6

      I guess Martin Marietta, which later merged with Lockheed to become well... Lockheed Martin

    • @FastSloth87
      @FastSloth87 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@DragonSFSMartin and American-Marietta were separate companies, they merged in 1961.
      (1940) American Asphalt Paint Company + Marietta Paint and Color Company = American-Marietta Corporation
      (1961) American-Marietta Corporation + Glenn L. Martin Company = Martin Marietta Corporation
      (1995) Martin Marietta Corporation + Lockheed Corporation = Lockheed Martin Corporation

  • @farid47an
    @farid47an Před 2 měsíci +1

    The only and optimal solution at the present time to deliver vehicles to space is a solution Space X

  • @ahmetizmir1081
    @ahmetizmir1081 Před 2 měsíci

    interesting and doable

  • @tomg3903
    @tomg3903 Před 2 měsíci

    It's using the Rocketdyne Aerospike design.

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes Před 2 měsíci

    Seeing the touch-down and thinking, how would the proposed F9 landings near the Bahamas resorts look?

  • @user-oj6mr7dj7w
    @user-oj6mr7dj7w Před 2 měsíci

    🔥🔥🔥👏

  • @4DCResinSmoker
    @4DCResinSmoker Před 2 měsíci +3

    Those parachutes would of been huge !

    • @OrdinaryLatvian
      @OrdinaryLatvian Před 2 měsíci +2

      Would have. Would've.

    • @brettteeter3461
      @brettteeter3461 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@OrdinaryLatvianthank you

    • @OrdinaryLatvian
      @OrdinaryLatvian Před 2 měsíci

      @@brettteeter3461 It bothers me to no end how illiterate some people are.

    • @brettteeter3461
      @brettteeter3461 Před 2 měsíci

      @@OrdinaryLatvian A coworker emails “would of” to me all the time. Like nails on a chalkboard. And “your welcome”…. Don’t even get me started.

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That was my reaction too. It's hard to get a sense of scale on this, but if modern capsules like Dragon and Starliner require four chutes (with some redundancy), an SSTO (generally pretty big) with only two chutes seems unlikely. Yes, you can make bigger chutes than Dragon uses... but that doesn't scale trivially...

  • @idranardone4500
    @idranardone4500 Před 2 měsíci

    Aldebaran spacecraft next

  • @ThomasHaberkorn
    @ThomasHaberkorn Před 20 dny

    Where's the propellant hiding?

  • @SMunro
    @SMunro Před měsícem

    SSTO is single stage to orbit. That ejected sections. So not SSTO.

  • @lunargamez725
    @lunargamez725 Před 2 měsíci

    why does bro have balloon in middle?

  • @inspectormills3290
    @inspectormills3290 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Looks like it has a circular speed brake deployed

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm Před 2 měsíci

      I saw that too - wouldn’t that interfere with the climb to escape velocity? 😮

  • @LDTV22OfficialChannel
    @LDTV22OfficialChannel Před 2 měsíci

    OMG YES HAZEGREY LISTENED TO ME

  • @markalee1
    @markalee1 Před 2 měsíci

    Pretty hard to generate that much thrust without fuel tanks.

    • @Estes705
      @Estes705 Před měsícem

      The fuel tank is inside the inverted cone on the underside.

  • @Ekkletos
    @Ekkletos Před 2 měsíci

    So Starship is also SSTO?

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 Před 2 měsíci

      No? If you're questioning the fact that the video shows it staging, then consider the difference between "single stage to orbit" and "single stage". SSTO doesn't mean you can't deploy a payload once you get there...

  • @Robert_Douglass
    @Robert_Douglass Před 2 měsíci

    Attach three of these to the back of a large wedge-shaped ship with q huge trapezoidal conning tower atop the stern, with eight big railguns, four port and four starboard, you know what you got, don't you?

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm Před 2 měsíci

      An Imperial Star Destroyer of course 😅

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass Před 2 měsíci

      @@datathunderstorm An *American* Star Destroyer. Understand that.

  • @jamesschenk
    @jamesschenk Před 2 měsíci +1

    Too much drag wouldnt fly right

  • @igormuslakov5581
    @igormuslakov5581 Před měsícem

    Летающая конфорка😂😂😂!

  • @emmanuelgarcia2870
    @emmanuelgarcia2870 Před měsícem

    😲

  • @trojanthedog
    @trojanthedog Před 2 měsíci

    The Germans had interesting plans for a large 2 stage version of the v2 with a pilot. Great to see that brought to life.

  • @user-wp6qm3ec4i
    @user-wp6qm3ec4i Před 2 měsíci

    Авторы считают, что толстый и короткий лучше чем тонкий, но длинный. Спорное утверждение.

  • @cbuchner1
    @cbuchner1 Před 2 měsíci

    The flying cupcake

  • @FathiAlJishi
    @FathiAlJishi Před 28 dny

    is this real

  • @yasnac7576
    @yasnac7576 Před 2 měsíci

    Ok..... Where is all that fuel coming from??? 🤔

  • @Indi_DevJames
    @Indi_DevJames Před 2 měsíci

    Do yall not know what SSTO means.... Single Stage To Orbit....that was atleast 2 if not 3....

  • @testpilotmafia862
    @testpilotmafia862 Před 2 měsíci

    Burns butterfly 🦋 farts.

  • @captjack2112
    @captjack2112 Před 2 měsíci

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 humorous. But Cheers to any attempts

  • @LamgiMari
    @LamgiMari Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm counting approx. 60 main engines. No way that would have worked as planned.

    • @jamesbatchelor3834
      @jamesbatchelor3834 Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's an annular aerospike. It's the same design that Stoke Space is using, and that's perfectly sound as a design.

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 Před 2 měsíci

      Many engines is not a problem with rigorous testing, like SpaceX and most modern space agencies do.

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 Před 2 měsíci

    Huh. Aerospike cupcake.
    Sure, why not?

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Před 2 měsíci

    We have spent many decades and many billions of dollars studying SSTOs and so we know a lot about them.
    And what we know is that they are no damned good.

  • @Limey2632
    @Limey2632 Před 2 měsíci

    Someone was paid for this? Where are the fuel tanks?

  • @horrido666
    @horrido666 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The puny rollers on the transport pad ruin it for me. It brings up the question, what other liberties have you taken? Looks cool, though.

  • @kamipollna225
    @kamipollna225 Před 2 měsíci

    Flying pine cone

  • @danielszabo3864
    @danielszabo3864 Před 2 měsíci

    That is all cool, but it's not an SSTO.

  • @jameswilson5165
    @jameswilson5165 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ridiculous. What kind of miracle fuel was this using?

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin Před 2 měsíci

      Liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

    • @aaronsmith8073
      @aaronsmith8073 Před 2 měsíci

      Super duper high octane oxyborane fuel!
      I'm kidding

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 16 dny

    @Hazegrayart >>> Great video...👍

  • @ballreal3
    @ballreal3 Před měsícem

    balls

  • @raykewin3608
    @raykewin3608 Před 2 měsíci +22

    There is a reason why rockets are long and skinny not short and fat.

    • @Madhuntr
      @Madhuntr Před 2 měsíci +14

      The reason is just that These concepts were never built. It all depends on what you want to launch. Most of These chonky concepts sere thought of to colomize the moon i assume and it would have been easier to build something on earth and then send it up then try and construct it in the moon

    • @matthewconnor5483
      @matthewconnor5483 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Well the requirement to move them by barge or truck limits your options.

    • @johnnydev9318
      @johnnydev9318 Před 2 měsíci +7

      So would you perhaps care to illuminate us all about what that reason is ?

    • @user-bn4vg8mn2n
      @user-bn4vg8mn2n Před 2 měsíci +3

      Ошибка инженеров в пролёт приведёт дракона прожорливого, без коэфециента полезного действия до орбиты вне досигаемости. 🎉

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Transportation buy truck, rail or water from the assembly plant to launch site play a part. As does politics. There is no way that almost all of the economic impact could be in one area or State and get through Congress. At least in the US.
      As to transportation. The SRBs from the Shuttle and SLS had to be able to be transported from the foundry. To the machining facility. And then to Morton Thiokol's Utah facility for propellant loading. Then to KSC for final assembly.
      I'm not sure were the raw casting or forging was done. I do know that the machining was initially done by Ladish Corporation in their South Milwaukee facility. And was moved back there after Challenger was lost. The requirement to move the SRB sections by road and rail limited their maximum diameter.

  • @antoniobragancamartins3165
    @antoniobragancamartins3165 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's one more social experiment!
    The aim is to identify the stupidity of the common population with general knowledge about rockets! What happened to the rocket equation? Where's the fuel tanks? What happened to the payload relation?

    • @davisdf3064
      @davisdf3064 Před 2 měsíci

      The fuel tanks are within the "Aerospike" cone itself.
      The rocket equation is supposed to work here because it uses air-augmentation to increase it's ISP through atmosphere.
      This SSTO should (key word, should) be capable of transportation 450 tons to LEO, the rocket itself would have been waay heavier though.

  • @MichaelBrigg-ij7qo
    @MichaelBrigg-ij7qo Před 2 měsíci

    Where is the description on how it works, and the obvious thing is how can a rocket engine work with no fuel. This is a total unworkable fantasy.

  • @johntheux9238
    @johntheux9238 Před 2 měsíci

    USA

  • @tamtamich4
    @tamtamich4 Před 2 měsíci

    why old rocket concepts is fat SSTOs

  • @clinchfieldtheghostfriendly
    @clinchfieldtheghostfriendly Před 2 měsíci

    ......i hate this design

  • @atptourfan
    @atptourfan Před 2 měsíci +1

    new Hazegrayart!!

  • @DISCORDJOINBIO
    @DISCORDJOINBIO Před měsícem

    Unsubscribe cause your channel has no description. Hope you change that.