Boeing Rocket Concepts
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CHAPTERS:
0:06 X-20 Dyna-Soar
1:09 Model 832-40
2:23 Saturn V-4X(U) "The Beast"
3:31 Large Multipurpose Launch Vehicle (LMLV)
5:15 "The Big Onion"
6:49 Space Freighter
8:10 SRB-X
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The Boeing X-20 Dyna-Soar ("Dynamic Soarer") was a United States Air Force (USAF) program to develop a spaceplane that could be used for a variety of military missions, including aerial reconnaissance, bombing, space rescue, satellite maintenance, and as a space interceptor to sabotage enemy satellites.
Full Video: • The Boeing X-20 Dyna-S...
Boeing doublebody, winged booster, known as Model 832-40
made use of a Dyna-Soar glider as the crew module and escape capsule.
Full Video: • Boeing Recoverable Lau...
Boeing 1968 study, four improved Saturn S-IC first stage stretched TO 498 inches with 6.64 million pounds propellant and 5 F-1 engines each and 4 S-II second stage with 5 J-2 engines
and a payload shroud of 86.5 feet in diameter and 240 feet long for a payload of over 1 million pounds
Full Video: • Saturn V-4X(U) 1 Milli...
Boeing's 4 Million lbs Payload Rocket (LMLV) Large Multipurpose Launch Vehicle Concept. Ten 372-inch solid motors would have resulted in a payload up to 4.2 million pounds
Full Video: • Boeing's 4 Million lbs...
Boeing's Low cost Heavy Lift Vehicle Concept VTVL SSTO RLV was part of the company's NASA-funded Solar Powersat Studies in 1976-77. Known as "The Big Onion"
Full Video: • Boeing's Low cost Heav...
The Boeing Space Freighter was a 1970′s designed fully reusable 420 Ton Payload Rocket System to construct the Solar Power Satellite Array to beam energy down to earth
Full Video: • Boeing Space Freighter...
SRB-X has often been called "The single worst shuttle-derived launcher ever proposed."
Full Video: • Boeing's SRB-X Space S...
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2:26 Just slapped on 4 Saturn V stages. That's the most kerbal thing i've ever seen
The lmlv is very kerbal too, a bunch giant boosters attached to a massive core stage
@@DragonSFS this one is cursed
Saturn 4x4
Saturn Vx4 = Saturn XX
That, and the "add moar boosters" ten-booster rocket!
The SRB-X's weird stand-off booster arrangement was so it could use the same launch platform as the Space Shuttle.
Thanks. That was really my first question to these concepts.
(A bad design idea to add such complicated mechanics to a rocket just for some ground interface reasons)
Everyone hates the SRB-X and I absolutely do not understand why.
The only problem with it is that it was made at a single factory.
If it was simple, cheap and it worked, it's good, good, good
Mass production (like China) would reduce the costs markedly. Our solid rocket manufacturing capacity is puny today. China has several SRB launchers sending satellites into orbit now with state subsidized solid rocket components.
@@brianboye8025And we have mass produced and reused liquid rockets.
@@janphilipp86 it’s not really that complicated; it’s just a reinforced strut with explosive bolts. It’s literally the exact same structure as the SRB attachment on the space shuttle.
Come for the launches, stay for the ocean-wide fish-fry buffet. (Great compilation of your past works.)
Strong Kerbal energy from Boeing
2:23 Saturn-Kerbal 1000
Exactly my heavy rocket with making history DLC
Every time in KSP1 lol
KSP 2 ruinin KSP 1 lol
Apart from concept 1 and 6, everything is very Kerbal and completely bonkers, love it!
exactly
Why do people think mentioning Kerbal has any significance?
@@brianboye8025 ??? Those are rockets you would build in kerbal space program
@@brianboye8025it’s a good descriptor for insane looking rockets
Have you seen TD channel
He built few of these
1:58 this really looks like it was caught on camera great animation!
I like that the chase plane was period correct also. Great detail.
F-104 starfighter, right? At least I'm assuming ur talking about the dyna soar salt lake landing
@@kookie_krumbs If you look closely, thats a rocket powered NF-104A
The idea of putting a pilot on the reusable first stage to fly it home (unless it's literally an airplane) is something we've probably gotten past at this point, but a bunch of these old shuttle-esque designs had it.
It's because back in the late 60s and 70s, the tech just wasn't ready to have fully autonomous flyback boosters.
@@zuthalsoraniz6764 American, no - Shuttle needed crew even on its first flight. Buran didn't.
@@bazoo513Buran was 80's tech, not 60's/70's.
@@bazoo513 Buran also started construction in 1980, and the Shuttle had extensive automation as well, and after Columbia the orbiters were modified so that in theory a fully automated entry, descent and landing would have been possible.
But that's a decade+ of advancement in avionics after these concepts were put to paper.
@@FastSloth87 True, but so was Shuttle. Granted, a decade meant a lot in terms of automation.
Beautiful. And the choice of music was inspired. Thank you for the Dyna-Soar; my Dad worked on that program.
Not much left of that Boeing these days.
How the mighty have fallen
My first thought, too, never work for bean counters.
Some of the concepts look just as modern or more futuristic than what we hve available today.
You should do one of these, but about various Douglas proposals. Look at Phil Bono's work for instance.
The VTVL seriously looks like something out of Thunderbirds.
And it also looks like a larger-than-life Mercury capsule!
Expectation: cool concerts from this video
Reality: Boeing has been unable to make the Starliner for many years😅
Well to be fair Boeing had the Starliner ready for flight in a shorter time than it took SpaceX to make the Dragon/Dragon 2. (And keep in mind that SpaceX already had the cargo Dragon to start with)
@@randycampbell6307 Space X made their space truck and its passenger version faster than Boeing made its passenger ship. At the same time, Space X was a newcomer to space, and Boeing was an experienced manufacturer.
@@randycampbell6307Except Starliner hasn't entered service yet. Having a buggy vehicle ready quickly only counts if your power source is a horse.
Just a note, the separation boosters on the Titan UA1205 boosters are oriented wrong in this animation. They are supposed to be oriented 45 degrees off and the booster are supposed to separate diagonally.
Yeah I remember watching the angled separation in Titan III/IV launch videos
I really enjoyed watching that video, good music and beautiful animations, thank you.
Wait! There's a new Hazegrayart? Clear my calendar and hold my calls. Let's go!
Coming May 6th, the Boeing Starliner with Butch Wilmore and Sunita Williams takes flight.
Hopefully everything goes well on this historic upcoming mission 🙏🏻
You forgot to write “hopefully”
Canceled
@@bananaFederationrepublic For now.
Your graphics are absolutely stunning! Thanks for another great ride into space!
BOEING MENTIONED ✈️🔥💯
Wheel falls off
Very nice showcase of your models.
2:15 the attention to detail: even the runway reflects off the craft! NICE!
Imagine the world where all of that was built and did fly. Amazing.
Gerry Anderson's world.
@@johnbuchman4854Other than the creepy talking dolls, I’m all for it.
Bro your animation skills are actually unreal 🔥🔥🔥
X-20 Dyna Soar. Neil Armstrong was one of the pilots selected, to fly this craft.
I'm kind of glad that none of these gigantic sea-launched concepts actually flew. They would have absolutely decimated sea life for hundreds of miles.
Eternally mad about Dynosoar. One of the biggest mistakes we made letting her rot.
the animations are so dang good!!!
This is outstanding . . . . all of my favorites (except the SRB-X). Thank you!
I love these comparison videos!!!
Awesome! THank you for making this video!
Pretty Kerbal, most of these concepts. But grandson of DynaSoar, DreamChaser, is soon to finally fly, and Boeing Space Freighter makes as much (or as little, depending how you see it) sense as SpaceX Superheavy/Starship.
To be fair Boeing did the study of the Space Freighter for NASA with a general plan in place and a known possible program . Starship/Superheavy has none of that.
@@randycampbell6307 Agreed. Apart from launching larger Starlink satellites, Starship has no rational use case. Musk's "offer" to replace NASA/ESA Mars sample return mission is utterly laughable, and Artemis III mission is very likely to be downgraded from lunar landing to Apollo-9 like LEO docking and crew transfer demonstration. NASA is obviously waiting for an actually workable lunar lander - "Lunar Starship" was just a placeholder, because they didn't have funding for anything realistic. Starship payload turns out to be merely 40-50 t, down from promised 100-120, requiring at least _30_ refueling flights for lunar mission, not counting propellant boil off. Typical of Musk when Tom Mueller is not around any more, and Gwynne Shotwell is busy actually earning money with Falcon program.
@@bazoo513 Technically, the LEO demo is only one of the proposed Artemis 3 alternatives. I personally think a Gateway mission is more likely. But otherwise agree
@@HalNordmann I think it's quite optimistic to believe there _will be_ a Gateway by the time Artemis III should launch...
@@bazoo513 PPE/HALO should be up and running by 2027, and so far hasn't had any major setbacks
Excellent compilation. I wouldn't mind taking the Dynasoar on a spin around the ball a few times.
Wonderful video bringing these concepts to life.
Absolutely fantastic!
"Single worst shuttle designed launcher ever proposed" Um excuse me how dare you talk about my Kerbal Space Program designs like that.
I agree totally. The Vietnam War also killed the Air Force's manned orbital laboratory,which was supposed to take the place of the x-20,which also spelled the end of the USAF manned space program,to think we could have had a space station,in the late 60s,years before Skylab ever flew.
Excellent works, all!
Wow, i love this video. Great work!
I LOVE this channel.. bro, you are getting better and better at this.
Excellent video!!!
Damm, it's like 1960 Vibe + 2020 Kerbal. Freakin awesome ideas.
Nice vid
Awesome work =)
Normal viewers : Nah... It's just some crazy sci-fi rockets...
KSP players : Challenge accepted ! ...
knowing their planes, i'm less than hopeful for their rocket concepts
Thanks 👍💪✌
Everybody gangsta until LMLV ignites.
Great video. You should do the same with all of SpaceX’s concepts.
There's the Falcon X, Falcon X Heavy, and Falcon XX. Falcon XX likely evolved into Starship.
However, Falcon X and Falcon X Heavy only have existed so far in a 2D rendering. Although I wish the Falcon X Heavy could've served alongside the Starship as a strictly non-manned design.
@@tidepoolclipper8657 yeah, and they also were planning on the Raptor engine being installed on Falcon 9, and older Starship concepts had Starship at 17m wide
Thanks!
Thank You
Gray video, but I think the idea is to start at least for the first 30 km with the plane just like an anthem of 225, but maybe with 2 Wings and aerial refueling, so it will take off almost empty.
To think that the airforce was pretty close to actually having a reusable spaceplane as far back as 1963, was the greatest what could have beens.The X-20 design had been finalized and the pilots selected and the first X-20 was just starting to be built when the program was canceled,seems the airforce couldn't justify why they needed such a platform and the cost that went with it.
Just imagine what could have been if we hadn't been funding the Vietnam War!
Boeing is the last manufacturer of rockets I’d go with
To be fair, everything you see here was proposed back when Boeing actually used to be great- until it merged with McDonnell Douglas and everything started going downhill.
Thanks! This awesome!
Thank You
@@Hazegrayart Also, what is that hypersonic bomber doing at the end?
Just saying, you could have released this on April fools day and had the doors all fly off mid flight
It needed a question mark after THE END.
WOW
Mr Hazegreyart your videos are outstanding. Are you friends with Everyday Astronaut ? I’m sure you could collaborate on projects. Red Side is also vey talented.
this channel rules
If Boeing wants to get back into being an actual profitable company, they should just dust off these old designs and perhaps make a TSTO version of "The Onion" rocket. Put a booster on that thing and it could probably compete with Starship.
SRB-X was truly cursed
Oops all SRBs
When you don't have enough science points in KSP to use larger liquid fueled boosters and you want to start building a space station.
@@danheidel I'd love to see someone make an SRB-XX in KSP aka SRB-X but with 4 SRBs(instead of just 2) firing at launch!
Top Vid.
2:55 I don't think the plumes of the four would have separated. I think they would have combined into one massive plume
Well, i know exactly what an 86 foot Saturn cluster is for. And it makes bang noises
Back when Boeing was actually cool.
I like Space Freighter
The Dyna-Soar on a Titan 3E would've been more reasonable than the space shuttle system NASA ultimately went with.
The Blue Danube, hay, That's a break. The " big orion" proposal however, I thought would be good for long range reconnaissance missions, though. Just saying.
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I wonder what would have happened if they strapped four Sea Dragons together?
The vibrations would rip it apart, but if we ignored basic physics and economics, you could launch a 100-man mars base in one go
Very big and very dumb. But beautiful. I wish I was in the universe where they had built something like that. But I'm stuck in this universe....with SLS 😢
The end of the world
...Also, man, lots of "destroy all sea life in the vicinity" launch concepts.
A point I've complained about in these videos before is that no surface-to-LEO heavy launch vehicle was likely to rendezvous with a solar power satellite under construction, since they were supposed to be in geosynchronous orbit. You'd have some kind of separate LEO-to-GEO tug to handle that bit.
Did anyone do design studies for those tugs?
The power sats were probably built in LEO and then moved to GEO when completed to protect the workers from cosmic rays and make emergency returns much faster (hours instead of days).
Part of a SBS has to track the sun and part has to track the ground station. Interesting problem.
@@philipngai5910 When in operation the SPS would be in geosynchronous orbit, but they were to be built in LEO in order to be accessible by the HLLV's
@@herobrineharry7698 Some initial studies by most of the big aerospace companies but it was quickly realized that probably wouldn't be possible with a separate "tug" so the switched to an idea of mounting electric thrusters to the fame of the SPS and having it "self ferry" to GEO.
Can't wait for 2:26 to be the most replayed part
Boeing: proving we can't build a spacecraft since 1958.
Starliner, may, prove that it's the exception.
this boeing could have, they just never got the chance. The boeing we've had for the last decade or two? Yeah, no, they won't prove themselves.
Some of these first stages would have made very large holes in the ocean.
Easily patched holes.
if NASA had U.S millitary budget:
So true😂
I’m pretty sure I built some of these in KSP by accident
Give Boeing credit, if they put their minds to it they could certainly come up with a more insane idea than SRB-X.
Boeing Saturn V-4X(U) and Boeing LMLV are just absurd. Although somehow still less crazy than UR-700.
Heck, the former very likely would've melted the launchpad.
Boeing is the past and they dreamed a lot, but the present and future is SpaceX. SpaceX doesn't dream, he does. Boeing es el pasado y soñaban mucho, pero el presente y futuro es SpaceX. SpaceX no sueña, el hace.
Sorry. I have to point it out. There is a typo at 3:30. Resulte, instead of result. But a brilliant video.
Would be nice if the speciftcations would also be writen in metric.
Is there a dynasoar prototype somewhere
Would've been nice to get a little more info, such as height, weight, intended purpose for each one. Some had a little of that, but overall it was a great vid.
What ia the payload on the Saturn V Beast?!?
Which one of them went into production and didn't cost overrun by billions and still not fly?
IMIS 1968
boeing manned interplanetary spacecraft ???
I have a Boeing pin that shos the shuttle with a completely reusable booster.
That was the original concept for the Shuttle as a whole - it could do everything the IRL one could, while being fully reusable. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough money for those... #FundNASA
people who hate the SRB-X hate fun
I'm waiting for someone to build the 4-SRB(5 including 2nd stage) version of the SRB-X in KSP! 😈
KERBAL SPACE PROGRAM
Dyna-Soar dont need no stinkin tiles..
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4:53 Korolev pentagram, x2.
Очень красивая графика,но на самом деле,у Боинга в полете открываются двери 😂
_BOEING_ once designed _WORKABLE SPACECRAFT??_
THAT'S A FIRST...🤦♂️
4:10 That’s a lot of dead fish
Avaliable?
This video is so timely, as if Hazegrayart is reminding us and Boeing what it once used to be AND what it could've been- *before it got cannibalized by McDonnell Douglas!*
Big rocket vs gravity
Fazer isso por animação é facil! Quero ver fazer como a spacex faz???