Harley-Davidson Springer Needs to Make a Comeback Just One Time In the M8 Era
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Harley-Davidson Springer was Old School Cool and hasn't made an appearance in the Harley-Davidson lineup line up for over ten years!! Fortunately a lot of Harley-Davidson's old school features are still present on todays modern Harley-Davidson motorcycles. Harley-Davidson has always done a really good job of mating the old and the new mashing them together in a package that's stylish and functional. Harley-Davidson Springer needs to make an appearance in the Milwaukee 8 era, mate the springer front end onto a Milwaukee 8 in the new redesigned softail chassis.
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What do you think of springer front end? Should it come back in the M8 era? If you own or have rode one what do you think of it?
I am looking to get a springer on to my 883 '09 sportster.
Just needing to save up as they are soooo expensive for that excellent quality.
Have a 2002 FXSTS and love it. When properly cared for it rides great and I’ve never experienced any handling issues that non-Springer riders always claim lol
Springers scream Harley Davidson and yes it should be an M8 model, they just revived the Hydra Glide and a springer will sell so why not.
They ride amazing! Nothing like the old ones. They do have some bushing that may need to be swapped out with higher miles
I love my crossbones harley I love the factory seat on top of the front end
In my opinion. Harley has one job. Sell the American dream. No American kid grew up with posters of Honda shadows on their bedroom walls. Europeans don’t travel here to ride gold wings through the Rockies. If Harley put an S&S Panhead in a Bobber, or an flh with a springer on it. I’d buy one tomorrow.
You are spot on!
I'm sure if they could get rid of the epa they would do that.
@@Jordan-M-18-06That’s one of the alphabet mafia that needs to go.
Yeah, I hear ya but, your wish will never happen because of EPA regulations.
I'd like to see Harley make a new bike that is truly a "bare bones" motorcycle with the minimum of electronics on it.
But, that will never happen either because those kinds of bikes would not be profitable for H-D.
The MOCO is the same as the automobile companies. Their most profitable units sold are the ones with all the "Bells and Whistles" on them.
@@ardyrides834 Softail Standard.
Had a 2003 anniversary springer. Absolutely loved it. Traded it in for a 2009 street glide. I went back the next morning and the owner told me he sold it that same night. A customer who knew I owned it bought it as soon as I left the dealer. Offered the new owner a thousand bucks more than he paid for it but he wouldn’t sell it back to me. Regretted it ever since. Ride safe wind brothers. 😢
Put 45,000 miles on my 2003 Springer softail, still going strong at 72,000.
That's what I like to hear!
The Springer Softail has always been my Harley dream bike, I own a Dyna Super Glide
The SuperGlide is a handling machine!! I love those bikes!
I own a '99 Heritage Springer motor is bulletproof. Never had a problem with the springer. She rides like a dream.
I love the Heritage Springer, those are really Unicorns these days.
EVO, Baby!
Bought my dream bike ‘07 Springer Classic with all the goodies.Custom Harley paint job.Rides great and is a real looker.
I had an Evo heritage Springer, I had that bike for 7 years absolutely loved it, it never gave me any trouble, the only thing I had to do was swap out the shock for a Fornales one, just because if you were on a long run and riding enthusiasticly it would stop damping. Great bike, even took it on a track day!! It had cams bigger Mikuni carb and ignision unit. It was quick in its day. Love to see a springer return it belongs in the Harley line up. Even a WL style bike be a cool bike, foot clutch hand shift.
Would love a tank shift on a new bike. Test rode one way back when the City of Camden, NJ was selling some police bikes.
We need an M8 Springer without gimmicks.
I would love to see a stripped back analog gauge springer with the M8 on the new Softail frame.
Won’t happen unfortunately
and a better engine
@@ClovisPoint like an EVO
Nothing wrong with the M8.
I Love the Ride,handling and looks of my 96 Spinger Softail I've had it since 97 and will have until I Depart the living👍👍❤🇺🇸❤🇺🇸
Funny. I was just thinking that yesterday. Need to roll out a Springer Icon model soon.
Hey, what's up buddy
If they threw it on the Heritage, I'd buy one(So Long as I don't have to pay for 'Black').
@hotrotts6467 we will be paying for black the rest of our lives
Odds are they ditched the Springer front end for good. It’d wouldn’t be able to have ABS which is one main reason they killed it
I have had enough of tech just bought a 81 shovelhead and I love it
Straight gravity and mechanical on those bikes!
I had a Bad Boy springer, and it was a lot of fun. I loved the way it looked and it worked great for me.
The Bad Boy was way ahead of its time! The black finishes with minimal chrome wasn't super popular, chrome was king back then.
My friend has a Softail Springer in his collection. He said it's not for everyone. They are a little rough. With everyone wanting performance these days and NOT aesthetics I don't see that happening. Another great video.
I have owned 5 springers from 92 to 2005 Heritage springer loved every one of them,I had to sell my 05 because of a health problem with my right arm I put 75,000 miles on it and never had a problem with the ride,if Harley would get their head out of their ASS,I would be 1st in line to buy it......Thanks for the channel keep up the good work
There are currently 83 Springers listed on cycletrader, 26 under $10K. These bikes have the character and sound you will never get from an M8! 👌
A bit more maintenance required on the springer front end compared to the more modern H-D front ends but still remains my most favorite front end for the Softail models.
You are correct, they have to be tuned now and again. I doubt there's very few dealers these days that have someone that could do that now.
Back in early nineties, I test drove a Harley Springer during Laconia Bike week. Remember it handled well and thought it looked great. Never owned one, but always liked them since that demo ride.
07 SE CVO, I FN Love It!!!! No issues and absolutely Gorgeous!! There is no ride like a Springer!! ❤❤❤❤
I own a 1990 FXSTS Springer Softail and love the bike. I’ve never had an issue with it.
Because its an EVO!
love the springer. I built one for a BSA Spitfire chopper I built.
Love my Springer bikes. 98 Heritage Springer and 05 Springer Softail.
If I was still a kid I'd probably want a telescopic fork for more racing around.
My wife has a 97 Heritage Springer. It’s a fun bike to ride watching the springs work as you ride. The only down fall is the front end is a little on the heavy side.
One of the local dealers here in NC put a springer front end on a Softail Standard, didn’t ride it but it is a sharp looking ride for sure. Harley should build one for their Icon collection for sure.
I have a 2009 cvo springer.....AWESOME....Compliments all the time !
I own a 1989 FXSTS along with a 1988 FLHS and a 2021 FLHX. The '89 Springer by far gives me the old school ride that us old guys love (68 yo). It's a beautiful bike, punched it out to stock stroke 3 5/8 bore and the paint scheme is OEM. The pride of my fleet. The added maintenance is every 4 or so years the neck bearings need to be replaced and I changed out once the lower rocker spherical bearings. People have come to me and asked how I can ride it, with the assumptions out there that they ride like crap. That always tells me they've never ridden one. It's a ride like no other!!
I have a 08 Crossbones with beach bars and the 'tractor' seat and a 16 Road Glide. For trips across the country I use the Road Glide. The Crossbones is my 'local' ride although I did ride it to Daytona once. It is only good for a couple of hours before things start getting uncomfortable in the seat but I like the old school tractor look at it is very comfortable for shorter rides. The biggest difference between the two is how heavy the bike steers. When it is time to turn you put in a LOT more muscle to make that happen on the Crossbones. You don't notice it out on the highway as much (but still big difference) but at low speeds around town it will give you a workout.
I bought a new Heritage Softail last year and I absolutely would have bought one with a springer front end if it would have been an option.
I always was astonished by a springer front end. They're just awesome!
Back fender on the Cross Bones is sweet. The springer Heritage Classic would be a good bike to bring back
They are hard to find used these days!
@@GixxerFoo I know cause I’m looking. And if I can find a Bad Boy that would be even better
The cross bones is one of my dream bikes
They are a real classic, you don't see a lot of them either!
A Bad Boy on the new chassis and M-8 platform would be a hot seller.
I have a chrome springer front-end that I've been meaning to put on my bike. It's a OEM Springer front-end and looks soo good just sitting there. I've had it sitting there for 2yrs and just love looking at it hanging there looking all pretty. I guess the reason I haven't put it on is I would have to revert back to wire wheels 💁♂️ and yes I've never seen a leftover Springer motorcycle. Always sell so why don't they continue 💁♂️
My 2003 100th Anniversary Heritage Springer Softail is the nicest Bike I've ever owned. The Springer front end looks cool, performs the same as any hydraulic fork bike I've ever owned. The front end is heavy, but it's never much of an issue. The only things I changed on this bike was the came chain tensioner (went with S&S hydraulic kit) 509 Cams and Chrome Switch housings.
My first Harley was a 1979 FXS Low Rider (The first 1340 ShovelHead). It was black with Red pin stripes and tank graphics. I regretted selling that sled. So when I bought my 100th Anniversary Heritage Springer, I had it painted the exact same way as my Low Rider. Some say I ruined the collectability of the 100th Anniversary Model; I disagree. They made 1200 Black 100th Anniversary Editions. Now, there are only 11,999 left. Mine is the only one that looks like it does; and I'm cool with that.
I've never ridden a Springer bike. They sure look cool!
But, performance and comfort wise in fast tight turns where you're trying to enjoy some aggressive riding, I doubt the springer could keep up.
That's why we need more than one bike in the garage. 😉
People told me I’d have to get used to my springer front end, but I never noticed the difference as when you go into a corner you automatically push/pull the bars to hold your intended line no matter what you are riding. 🤷🏻 Definitely way cooler though! 👍🙂
I love the way my crossbones rides. Put about 1400 miles on it this winter.
Loved the Goldwing meme!!!! I have not ridden a springer bike, but I would like to. I have heard they are fun to ride. I wish Harley would go super retro and offer the new Hydra Glide in an Evo. That would be cool, maybe even through in a kick starter. Make it millennial proof. LOL!!!!
Thank you! As soon I saw those colors on the anniversary editon and I swore I had seen that some where before, I saw that meme and I thought that's where I had seen that color lol.
EVO with Carb. Last of the good ones.
Had a cross bones still miss that bike was a fun bike to ride got lots of looks.
They are some attention grabbers for sure!
I remember many years ago seeing a Springer parked on the street and thinking that was one of the best looking bikes I've ever seen. Definitly old school. Would be so cool if they brought that back on a per order basis for fun. Thanks for anothe great video! Love'm.
The springer front forks may be an engineering challenge when it has to be combined with ABS brakes.
That's a very good point!
That was my understanding too
That’s why the springer was discontinued. But so what? Not super impressed with ABS to begin with.
@@jimbrady3675 Agreed. ABS is not necessary for the average rider. Only for Geeks that like tech.
@@hotrotts6467 is it mandated by the government? Either way Springers are the sexiest front ends and I’ll stick to older bikes to get them.
I have a 2002 springer love love love it. I would like to see the next revival model be a springer front end with the 117 motor.
that I would buy!
Good content...an evo springer Softail still a beautiful ride..Carry on
They are absolutely timeless machinery!
I have never ridden a springer but I really like the look.
They are really slick looking! A well tuned one rides pretty nice!
IMO, a new Goldwing front suspension is somewhat similar to a Springer. Like a springer, the suspension travel is straight up and down, has the spring and shock up top, and the front doesn't dive when braking like fork sliders. My Wing also rides much nicer out front than my Road King.
I was able to pick up a 05 springer softail classic with the fat front tire. Love that bike
I can see Harley releasing one in their Icons line eventually. It’s crazy how much people are asking for their 20-30 year old springers
They are really unicorns, there weren't a lot of them made at the time. Honestly very few are still intact today having not been torn apart for parts or robbed of the front end for another project.
Well I absolutely love the springer front end and the crossbones is a awesome bike.
Twin rear shocks are something that I won't live without I had a mono shock but much prefer twin all the way.
Old school all the way.
All the best from NZ 🇳🇿
Totally agree, need an M8 springer , that would come full circle sort of speak . My boss has a springer and it's wicked to say the least .
The last springer pic you posted at the end of your video was stunning! Never rode one, so I have no experience on one but man, it does look pretty awesome...
I love the looks of the springer. I have Girder on my Triumph chopper. I had to split the casing on it when I had a soft engine seize. The rod bearings seized on the crank.
Had the same crank seize on my 1963 T100 bobber back in 1966. Took forever to find a crankshaft.
I was fortunate. Mine was a very soft seize. I just had to polish the crank and cylinders. I replaced the pistons, rings and pins. Along with a new oil pump and sludge trap.There wasn't that much sludge in the trap but one of the holes in the crank was plugged. I lapped the valves while I was at it. Now just to get the head and covers back on it. I kind of lost interested in it. @@vics8873
I have a 96’ BadBoy, and I love the springer front end. It’s heavy, but that makes it more stable at speed. The looks are classic. I get looks and compliments everywhere I go.
Thank you! I have been following you for years and love your content but you hit the nail on the head with the Springer discussion! I own two and think they are the best looking front ends in motorcycling! The reason they discontinued the springer is because they could not adapt ABS to them. I doubt they’ll e er come back with everyone’s fascination with handling and inverted front ends. 🙄🙄😃
The only thing my springer needed, on my ‘90 Evo, was neoprene bushings in the upper end after 40K miles. It’s now just perfect.
I have a 2005 Softail Springer Classic. Love the bike and it all stock other than Boss Springer Bags and a windshield.
I agree, a Springer is long overdue 👍🏻
I believe they should bring back the Springer front end on a bike as part of the Icon Collection, That would be cool, 😎
I love the Springers. I have 2000 Roadking that I made in to a Trike .Mystry Design rear axle with fat tires 10”wide custom wheels .
I'm waiting !!!
36-39 knuc springer had very nice art deco paint, taillights, air box,full fenders, etc.
Current "icon series" are pretty limited numbers, (1750)so they'd sell out.
1936-39 Knucklehead look nostalgia bike would be a big hit -- if done right.
@@browngreen933 agreed !
They kinda did the '40 with the Heritage Springer & the 41-46 with the springer classic (I have a 2005),
But the 36-39 paint schemes would be really cool 😉
Absolutely, I love the old school springer!
I own a 1998 FLSTS as well as a 2001 FXSTS (carb-TC). Like them both but love the FLSTS with the 16 tire best. The FL is just a pleasure to ride, both across town and across country.
Great video! Wish I could get a springer front end kit for my 96' Heritage
You can... there are bolt on kits available!
Harley Roadking is the last resort of the simplicity of Harley Davidson (no audios, no other entertainment gimmick than its V twin rumbling exhaust). Few of my friends traded his fairing Harley with Roadking. Nothing but simplicity and the pure riding experience of the motorbike itself
1 - The Springer front end is a better suspension than what many people think. Might look antiquated but it is a good system. I remember reading a Kevin Cameron article about it.
2 - I believe I read that H-D sold all the Springer tooling (I forget to whom).
3 - A mono-shock would be nice but the dual shock doesn't take up the, what I call "Real Estate" that the mono-shock takes up in a frame being that there's only so much available space in a bike frame to put stuff. So much more electronics today, its all gotta go somewhere.
Sold the tooling to Paughco
I think it should be a factory option if you are ordering from the dealer. they do not need to produce a whole different model just a special order option on certain compatible models for those willing to pay for it.
Harley-Davidson is kinda getting back to the old HD-1 factory custom program in a way, you can "order" a bike with parts and packages. Albeit they are dealer installed now, years ago you could build a bike online and order it at a dealer choosing black or chrome, different wheels, special pain colors, some was factory installed and some at the dealer.
I came very close to getting a used Cross Bones at a good price from a dealer, it rode great but it was too nice to be a daily rider so I got a Dyna. 😄
A unitized engine with horizontally split cases doesn't require the engine or trans to be disturbed when servicing or rebuilding the other.
Yes, they should bring the springer front end to the M8.
I would love to see them do a springer again. Look how much a used one is. I should have bought one a few years ago, seems they are getting popular in my opinion 🤔
I seen a video of a new soft tail standard with a springer front end it looks classy AF
Another great video Gixx, it's too bad the springer front end is gone, and the mousetrap clutch. Maybe because too many want to put a seat on a jet engine and go 0-1000 in 2 seconds. Suspension couldn't handle it.
love my crossbones and the springer. no issues with the springer but it has the shock on it for good measure
I’m not a new bike owner in an near future but I might if I could get a springer
Gixx, I Cant tell you how much I Appreciate the effort, research and time you put into your most excellent videos! I Have had really good luck with the old bikes. YES bring back the springer.Not happy w/ the corporate B.S. all about the Stock Appreciation corporate B.S.
Build a Hard tail Pan and Ride it or sit on your couch. God Bless the Veterans!!! Thank you.
My favorite last springer was 2004. The black and blue. I think it was still a 80ci.
Love them gloss black springers
Love the springer
I’ve been asking for this video forever, I love your content man
Thank you! I appreciate the support! You know I got to thinking after I made this video, there's very few dealer techs out there anymore that would even know how to tune a springer front end if they would accept one to work on.
I think the springer was the best thing Harley ever did
Older Softails have 2 shocks up under there
I would buy a m8 springer for sure
I’ve been hoping the same thing. There are springer kits available for m8 Softails, but I want a factory springer.
Springer should come back in a softail version. Love the Harley t-shirt, where did you order it from?
Well I remember when the Springer came out. Not the one in the thirties or forties but when it was reanimated what in the 90s. Friend of mine who had worked with and then found his dream job at the Harley dealer which turned out to be somewhat of a nightmare because of the owners.. but I said man that Springer is cool he said we call him Waka Waka s .. I said why he said they go waka waka when you going down the road LOL.. and I've never had one or tried one but they look unique and I'm sure they have their place in motorcycling history.... Now if somebody gave me one I sure would not turn it down 😁
I never rode a springer but they look awesome! I think they should have an M8 Softail Springer, they'll sell to the guys looking for that Old School hardtail look with the Springer front end. Are there any M8 Wide Glides?
Theres just something missing from the modern HD springers that the '36 to '48s had.Those ones had more character somehow.The so called "I-beam" springers from the early 30s look like crap too.The Servi Car springers from the 1950s were made on the cheap.A lot of welding on them.
Here's where I stand. Springers are old school, very sexy. While you have all the modern goodies money can buy, I've got groupies who want to cripple Ole grandpa if you know what I mean...I started on a 48 Pan. I'll die with a 98 Evo...FLSTS
The only modern softail a springer makes aesthetic sense on is the Standard. Unless they just roll out a mid-line "Springer", price it at $15,999. Or, Fatbob Springer (since the Fatbob is missing from the 2024 lineup) in like the $18,999 slot. In all honesty I've just about ran my course with HD (been with them since 1995). I'm looking hard at Indians. Way more bike for the same money.
Seen them, never road one, BUT they do look bad ass.
I had an 02 fxsts 88 carb'd with S&S gear drive & cam. So well balanced. I got talked into an 06 RK flhri. Good bike but not a Springer. Had to replace my loss with a 96 evo fxsts. A little rougher than the 02 but it is a great bike. 38k mi. Planning on the lifters & cam/bearing. Also do to. Some health issues I'm awaiting delivery of a 15 Freewheeler 103. The RK is going. 14.6k mi. Don't like the new stuff but Springer's forever! BTW, my old 02 is still running with over 100k & sadly lots of abuse.
Harley Davidson as I know / remember them are no more 😢.
I will stick with my pan head ty.
Yeah, we need to see the softtail standard with a springer front end.
Moto Iron makes one for the M8 Street Bob. Ive been seeing some real good deals on Street Bobs might have to build my own one day.
Just some more reasons to keep my 2 Evos. A 87 Electraglide and a 97 Dyna Superglide. The Springer front ends look great but must be a tough job to keep clean.
I own an 09 crossbones, has 30k miles on it and its never given me any issues. It rides like a cloud
Those are hard to find these days!!
I changed a brothers shocks on his road glide in 15 min
Most the time looking for the right socket (not my tools)
I would love to see springer front end Crossbones with m8 engine. Love that classic look. That what we grew up with.
I loved the springer but loved the fatboy/heritage look a little more. First Harley was 81 shovelhead FLH. Then got the 95 red/black Badboy mainly because it was affordable at the time. I've got a brand new springer front end in a box. Would love to build a bobber with it. Been thru a lot of different Harleys last was 2015 Road King.
Harley know that the old biker Harley Davidson alienated potential customers. My generation and younger are really starting to love Harley now, and if they want new money. The new lineup is right on par. Harleys were always too expensive. 😂
Which is why I've never bought a new one. But I do use rider to rider financing from them for every used fxr3 and fxdxse I buy. 😂
A m8 Springer would be the only springer I'd buy.
I own a springer and love it. To me it rides like there is shocks. I could have sold it numerous times and someone wanted to trade me for a BMW auto. As far as the springer goes I understand that harley sold the rights to the springer front end to another company and that company doesn't want the liability required to supply harley, and if that's the case no more springers.
I heard the reason the Springer was discontinued was of a difficulty in getting ABS to work properly on it. I don't know the specifics.
My 05 dyna will out handle my 02 springer very easily. The softail springer is more about the look than performance. Nice to have both though😁