In episode 2 of Black Conversations, our panel continues to unpack Black Love. The topic of Idliso is heaviluy 7unpcacked with opposing views on its purpose.
that's why men kill woman because they are not gentle and softer on their families. they want to be powerful even on wrong places and end up misusing their physical and emotional strength!
I don’t know about everyone but as a woman I feel like a man appears weaker when they act tough in some situations. Like cry bro, you’ll get back up after that. Be secure with the fact that you’re a man and you’re great leader otherwise but mostly of all human. There’s no war, what are you doing as a contribution to the potential nation war?
@@Live_More_Love_More yes you're right some men are strong and tough but inside they are weak.they are rude, arrogant and abusive, thus the problem women have to deal with... weak men trying to act tough
I agree we don’t need softer gentler men, because that breeds weak men, we need competent men who are strong and a capable of violence when necessary because we can’t sit in bubbles and act like the world is sunshine and roses there are some dark people and things out there and as a man the minute you are not strong and capable to endure in various ways you have a weak home and a weak marriage, but I’m 20 I’m just speaking off things I see and experience
This was short we needed more than 23 minutes. A lot of digression from the topic which could be episodes on their own. But great and much needed conversations.
I once had a fling with a wonderful Zulu guy in Midrand, and when I met his uncle, things took an unexpected turn. Upon hearing us speak in English, his uncle asked if I would survive "emakhaya" (in the rural areas), and my guy assured him I would because I enjoyed cleaning and cooking-cue the laughter. The truth was, I spoke English due to a language barrier, being Tswana. After watching a video recently, I was taken aback by how some Zulu men still expect women to give up their careers, submit to their husbands, and rely solely on them as providers. It's 2023, and times have indeed changed. I firmly believe that a woman working doesn't diminish her husband's role as the head of the household. Black love has evolved, and the dynamics within relationships now embrace equality and shared responsibilities. It's about supporting each other's ambitions and aspirations while navigating life together. The notion that a woman should solely focus on homemaking is becoming outdated, as couples today recognise the value of each partner's individual growth and fulfilment.
Felix is sharing a whole lot of sense via power dynamics in a home. In other aspects, the podcast is rushed and subjects aren't thoroughly covered, if they could fix on that.
All I can say is the more we gain knowledge on modern culture and systematic beliefs, the more we rinse ourselves off our culture. Ekugcineni, information about your people and ancient practice seems foreign to you, Qaphelani bantu ba Mdali. Knowledge is power, used wrong it become weakness.
The problems is when people want relationship based on feelings and not logic. Logic being what we both want to build from our relationship and not how we feel at the moment.
@@Sylvesdo-25i agree. If we say relationships should be based on logic then for what or when should feelings apply? We are human with feelings so where do we apply those feelings if not with relationships. I was in a session with our CEO lately. Very successful gent who has a company that operates in 59 countries. We were interviewing for an area manager and his last question to us as the panel was "what does your gut feeling tell you about that candidate"
How does a woman respect and submit to a man who doesn't respect her? Bra Tbose's closing statement is so powerful. I love bab' Hlophe's voice, it just commands attention man. Absolutely enjoyed this episode, please keep them coming.
This conversation is based on personal perceptions than actual facts. I think they should all start their statements with "I think, I see,I believe" because things they are saying are just raising my eyebrows because 👀.
What a wonderful conversation. For me Black love has respect, protection and care for feelings in it. A man who respect a woman will automatically get "submission"from a woman. Ephicians 5 man will get a proverbs 31 woman. Money is essential to acccentuate that love♥♥♥
This conversation needed to be longer🤞🏼, i like Felix's mindset. That guy who says our elders used to have same sex love has had his mindset altered by the woke agenda.
@@vuyelwajeanettdikane372 I hear you, but I disagree with making it seem as if it was a norm that used to happen back then, that defined "black love" for black people back then
@@mbalenhleqwabe it definitely wasn't a norm. Many died with that secret but it was happening this days it's forced down our throats that we have to accept it as normal out "in public"," binaries " & all... A lot is going on
Black love is purely love, however it will always be coupled with money/ financial issues because as a community, especially in Africa we are operating from scarcity, whereas our white counterparts are operating from generational wealth.
Felix too comical’ ngeziyoyo’’ zabafana””😂 but shout out bra T- Bose very modest and thoughtful he was not given a chance. Very interesting topic and I’m proud of South Africans not shying away from our serious issues.
I enjoyed watching this pod cast i believe that in black love we've lost what was being done by our parents if the generation of today could do thing that we done madolo I promise we'll love ngokwe qiniso .
Put material things aside and look for genuine companionship. Then both people can motive each other to persue careers n financial freedom n build a healthy family. There will always be women with bigger bums than urz and there will always be men with bigger pockets than ur man. Respect each other as partners, pray together n the love will always be fired up🔥
Yes Felix woman were meant to take care of the house ngale nje kwemali kodwa sinezinto eziningi esizenzayo indoda ayiphume iyosebenza mina ngisebenze ama business asekhaya ngilime and love my man kuze ngibe active nase bedroom ngizokujabulisa kanjani ngikhathele nes stress sasemsebenzini
I watched MacG show she explained it was for the show on Moja love, but here shes mentioning the 2nd husband. I think we need to get clarity from her on her "venting podcast". I still love her though but I find it difficult to understand her here as well.
These conversations should be had until we are tired and start looking for middle grounds because wow we don't talk guys.... Please more episodes on black love.
Imagine believing your grandparents were in same sex relationships 😂, this generation is just caught up in the crazy western identity. We need to take a step back and regain our africaness.
they were in same sex relationships but behind closed door because it was a taboo. western culture only gave them the option to come out with it but it never made them gay
They were in same sex relationships long before colonization. This man and woman relationship was created by colonizers just like monogamy. Look at how animals operate.
😭😩yabona mangaphika noGogo Skhotheni just after watching her episode with Macg then this 'a wife to two husbands' or this is still for Mojalove content Ngaze ngazixaka ngendaba zabantu ke nam😩
I’m surprised ngesiZulu sika T-bose and his wife. This was a much better session than the others I’ve seen. Participants listened to each other, everyone could bring their point across and be heard. Good to see
Wow, this sure is interesting hey. It just takes me back to a relationship I had a year ago, where the guy had mentioned that he grew up in a polygamous family, but his not a polygamist yet, haai shem, that was a red flag and I was glad he mentioned that because I didnt see myself part and parcel of that situation.
I have just left a guy I dated for 5 months because he just revealed to me that he wants me in a polygamous marriage. If that was communicated early on, we would not have wasted each other's time.
Love is not organic anymore❤ we need potions to strengthen what is naturally bound by what is real and true nothing can separate it. Its insecurities at play here.
But Skhotheni is giving mixed signals with regards to having two husbands. She denied it mos and said MojaLove pushed the narative and that it was for clout. What is what vele?😮😮😮
No, I have to disagree with you, this nation does not need a softer gentler man, What for? You just need to look around carefully to realize we are at war. We need man who will affirm and guide...
I think we need softer men because many men where raised to be strong. Being told men don't cry. Which has lead to men being angry and not being able to express themselves. Leading to men some men expressing themselves in toxic and violent manner. That's why we have such high rate of GBV.
Mara guys korobela how when polygamy was or is a thing? Isn't that a contradiction. Ae! these conversations are to be taken with a grin of salt bagaetsho. Mare Thabo ke grootman 💙🤝🏽😍
Bra Tbose is such a good listener he is an example grootman
Grootman indeed
I think Felix and Skhotheni were brought there to just stir...there's no way they believe what they're saying🤣🤣🤣🤣
😀 Skhotheni actually believes in it, u should watch her episode on podcast n chill.. she mentions it, the part ye love potion
Haibo haibo haibo
True…Gogo skhotheni said the whole having 2husbands is a lie
But Felix is spot on, on all his replies 👍🏾👌🏾
Felix brought humour but also fact's
😂Felix is funny even when he's serious, eish
👏👏👏👏👏👏 If our television screens would be full of this, those days of congregating in front of TV's would come back with a bang
Bra Tbose’s last comment is very powerful that’s a well groomed man 🙏🏾
When MaBleh speaks we listen, so well thought through and articulate! Love his views
Listen ! I love uMaBlerh ❤he is a smart man
Ay iyabeka lensizwa...
No nation needs softer, gentle men. You might think we are not at war but every nation is always seconds away from war.
that's why men kill woman because they are not gentle and softer on their families. they want to be powerful even on wrong places and end up misusing their physical and emotional strength!
I don’t know about everyone but as a woman I feel like a man appears weaker when they act tough in some situations. Like cry bro, you’ll get back up after that.
Be secure with the fact that you’re a man and you’re great leader otherwise but mostly of all human. There’s no war, what are you doing as a contribution to the potential nation war?
@@Live_More_Love_More yes you're right some men are strong and tough but inside they are weak.they are rude, arrogant and abusive, thus the problem women have to deal with... weak men trying to act tough
We need gentler men… the men need it too, for their mental health
I agree we don’t need softer gentler men, because that breeds weak men, we need competent men who are strong and a capable of violence when necessary because we can’t sit in bubbles and act like the world is sunshine and roses there are some dark people and things out there and as a man the minute you are not strong and capable to endure in various ways you have a weak home and a weak marriage, but I’m 20 I’m just speaking off things I see and experience
This was short we needed more than 23 minutes. A lot of digression from the topic which could be episodes on their own. But great and much needed conversations.
I am so taken by Felix Hlope's mind bethung GET ME A DATE😂😂😂 with him we neeeeeeed to end this conversation 😂😂
What Felix Hlope is saying is sooo true,couldn't agree more
I once had a fling with a wonderful Zulu guy in Midrand, and when I met his uncle, things took an unexpected turn. Upon hearing us speak in English, his uncle asked if I would survive "emakhaya" (in the rural areas), and my guy assured him I would because I enjoyed cleaning and cooking-cue the laughter. The truth was, I spoke English due to a language barrier, being Tswana.
After watching a video recently, I was taken aback by how some Zulu men still expect women to give up their careers, submit to their husbands, and rely solely on them as providers. It's 2023, and times have indeed changed. I firmly believe that a woman working doesn't diminish her husband's role as the head of the household.
Black love has evolved, and the dynamics within relationships now embrace equality and shared responsibilities. It's about supporting each other's ambitions and aspirations while navigating life together. The notion that a woman should solely focus on homemaking is becoming outdated, as couples today recognise the value of each partner's individual growth and fulfilment.
Nokuthi practically, most black men don't earn enough to meet the demands of city living
As second income goes a long way
In my experience, the pairing of a Tswana and Zulu couples have the most beautiful of unions I have seen to date.
@@thabisokevinmbili9158true this!!!❤
Felix is sharing a whole lot of sense via power dynamics in a home.
In other aspects, the podcast is rushed and subjects aren't thoroughly covered, if they could fix on that.
This just feel fake because Gogo Skhotheni said on the Mc G podcast that the idea of two husbands doesn’t exist now what is this😢
All I can say is the more we gain knowledge on modern culture and systematic beliefs, the more we rinse ourselves off our culture.
Ekugcineni, information about your people and ancient practice seems foreign to you, Qaphelani bantu ba Mdali.
Knowledge is power, used wrong it become weakness.
Bra Thibos even during Skhumba n Bob, his topics were interesting and lastly Bra Thibos last words POWER💪💪
A part 2 is needed. We need to unpack this more.
The problems is when people want relationship based on feelings and not logic. Logic being what we both want to build from our relationship and not how we feel at the moment.
I agree with you but the fight between feelings and logic is not always easy to win, it requires a lot of discipline and self awareness
@@Sylvesdo-25i agree. If we say relationships should be based on logic then for what or when should feelings apply? We are human with feelings so where do we apply those feelings if not with relationships. I was in a session with our CEO lately. Very successful gent who has a company that operates in 59 countries. We were interviewing for an area manager and his last question to us as the panel was "what does your gut feeling tell you about that candidate"
Please never stop posting ❤ I enjoyed this episode, thank you.
Softer, gentler men...i agree we need them
How does a woman respect and submit to a man who doesn't respect her?
Bra Tbose's closing statement is so powerful. I love bab' Hlophe's voice, it just commands attention man. Absolutely enjoyed this episode, please keep them coming.
What comes out of his mouth is so backwards. Lol
Backwards or not personally I luv a man who takes care of me but at the same time he shouldn't be afraid to kiss me in public...an affectionate man 😅
Mableh spitting facts!!!!!!!!!
This conversation is based on personal perceptions than actual facts. I think they should all start their statements with "I think, I see,I believe" because things they are saying are just raising my eyebrows because 👀.
Zulus and Shona men are EXACTLY the same! Very interesting. I agree with the Zulu man
😂😂😂👍🏾
Soool funny, Ma bleh took me out with the sishimane era🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish Felix could talk more or explain a lil more I 100% agree with him
"black love is love, and love is complicated" 😭😭😍😍
Love is not complicated, people are
We don't need soft man please guys indoda ayibe indoda
What a wonderful conversation. For me Black love has respect, protection and care for feelings in it. A man who respect a woman will automatically get "submission"from a woman. Ephicians 5 man will get a proverbs 31 woman. Money is essential to acccentuate that love♥♥♥
This conversation needed to be longer🤞🏼, i like Felix's mindset.
That guy who says our elders used to have same sex love has had his mindset altered by the woke agenda.
I actually agree with the guy Mableh, even in the Bible before the Flood same sex has been happening 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@vuyelwajeanettdikane372 I hear you, but I disagree with making it seem as if it was a norm that used to happen back then, that defined "black love" for black people back then
@@mbalenhleqwabe it definitely wasn't a norm. Many died with that secret but it was happening this days it's forced down our throats that we have to accept it as normal out "in public"," binaries " & all... A lot is going on
It's Taboo!!! if you study history deep enough before Rome & Greece. it's these taboos that led these civilizations to ruin.
Black love is purely love, however it will always be coupled with money/ financial issues because as a community, especially in Africa we are operating from scarcity, whereas our white counterparts are operating from generational wealth.
Felix too comical’ ngeziyoyo’’ zabafana””😂 but shout out bra T- Bose very modest and thoughtful he was not given a chance. Very interesting topic and I’m proud of South Africans not shying away from our serious issues.
U Gogo Skhotheni ushilo. As long as women still demand ama range rover and abo 20k allowance, black love will be transactional
I’ve been looking for this episode thank you 😊
I love the way they all banter you can tell they are professional broadcasters
A much needed topic. This needs to be unpacked further. Enjoyed the episode ❤❤
Felix I absolutely adore you
Indoda uFelix, siyema lapho.
PART B on this one please this panel was the one 👌🏾
I am Felix n Felix is me..I totally agree with him
MABLER, is so wise
Struggling to take Gogo skhotheni sirious after watching the podcast eish nevertheless great conversations
Yes totally agree didn't she say the second husband things was jus for the reality show?
That's where I got confused ay
All these public figures are playing characters nje
😂😂😂Me too
She lies a lot
Its edited in such an funny way . . . conversations are all over!
One minute Skhotheni has one husband next it’s two… she’s so confused
This episode had me on the edge of my seat 💺
Great conversation! Food for thought indeed.
Felixxxx.....😍🤩The nation needs to hear that!!!
My favorite couple Mapaseka and Thabo always make sense to me..
Ooh i love how they all give each other a chance to talk and listen.
. Newbeie here but i love it
We need more!!!😢😢 I loved this
Where is the 1st episode...love this content
I really found this episode interesting and everyone’s views
I thought Gogo said she only has one husband and never cheated on her husband. Aowa hle o mpha di trust issue
I thought so too..... this one is confusing us 🤞🤣🤣
I literally rewinded ka 10seconds to make sure if I heard her correctly 🤔
Kanti, what in the confusion is this?🙆♀️
I came to type this... waze wakhuluma izinto zaningi uGal. AkaPicke 1, unaye uNumber 2 or not? Uzothi it was for content 😂😂😂
Didn't she mentioned on the Mac's podcast that the 2 husband's thingy was scripted and all acting?😂😂 Aii logogo
I enjoyed watching this pod cast i believe that in black love we've lost what was being done by our parents if the generation of today could do thing that we done madolo I promise we'll love ngokwe qiniso .
I love this episode. Very informative 😊
Thank you people🙌🙌🙌 what an interesting and mind opening episode🥰🥰🥰
Thank you Castle Milk Stout!🖤
eish this MaBll=eh guy came hard kula point yezi shumane🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Felix uyahlekisa yaz.😅
I abolutely love the last point that man made ❤
Put material things aside and look for genuine companionship. Then both people can motive each other to persue careers n financial freedom n build a healthy family.
There will always be women with bigger bums than urz and there will always be men with bigger pockets than ur man.
Respect each other as partners, pray together n the love will always be fired up🔥
Yes Felix woman were meant to take care of the house ngale nje kwemali kodwa sinezinto eziningi esizenzayo indoda ayiphume iyosebenza mina ngisebenze ama business asekhaya ngilime and love my man kuze ngibe active nase bedroom ngizokujabulisa kanjani ngikhathele nes stress sasemsebenzini
@CastleMilkStout thank you so much for this. You just gained yourself a new subscriber ❤
Now skhotheni is a wife to 2 husbands aii, but on macg she said it's false
Skotheni is lost!
I watched MacG show she explained it was for the show on Moja love, but here shes mentioning the 2nd husband. I think we need to get clarity from her on her "venting podcast". I still love her though but I find it difficult to understand her here as well.
These conversations should be had until we are tired and start looking for middle grounds because wow we don't talk guys.... Please more episodes on black love.
Imagine believing your grandparents were in same sex relationships 😂, this generation is just caught up in the crazy western identity. We need to take a step back and regain our africaness.
they were in same sex relationships but behind closed door because it was a taboo. western culture only gave them the option to come out with it but it never made them gay
They were in same sex relationships long before colonization. This man and woman relationship was created by colonizers just like monogamy. Look at how animals operate.
There’s a lot of history about homosexuality in Africa, paintings too.. especially in central Africa.. it’s not a ‘western’ thing
Yoh Felix!! I've never laughed so much 😂.. I loved uncle T's closing comment. Ushaye eskhonkosini.
Felix is the smart one here. Others just regurgitated what theyve heard somewhere. They didnt use their brains at all
I wish it took an hour, please consider that, I enjoyed the conversations.
What an interesting episode😆
I love this content
"We need softer and gentler men" I thank you ❤
Thank you for posting 🤝
😭😩yabona mangaphika noGogo Skhotheni just after watching her episode with Macg then this 'a wife to two husbands' or this is still for Mojalove content
Ngaze ngazixaka ngendaba zabantu ke nam😩
I’m surprised ngesiZulu sika T-bose and his wife. This was a much better session than the others I’ve seen. Participants listened to each other, everyone could bring their point across and be heard. Good to see
They are seasoned broadcasters ey, they inspire me with how well they speak and understand other languages other than their own.
It’s starting to be transactional
Thabo's closing statement 👏🏾
It was the best💪💪💪
Uyindoda Mfoka Hlophe
Part 2 please!
I wish this conversation could have been longer it's so interesting am also partaking in a way 😅❤
12:04 there is no relationship that is not transactional, you can never be with a person you aren't getting anything from.
Mablair, Mapeseka, Tbos 🙌🏽🙌🏽
😂😂uTumi said she lied about having 2 husbands yet she’s maintaining lento Lana. Hay cha bakithi.
Maybe it was recorded a long time ago before macg podcast
I think this is old. She definitely pushed it, she knew it was going to get her clout.
Love it. Thanks Stawoti... thank u talent
Felix was spot on ndesithembu.
Felix "👓"😅 Generation Z😂,Mapaseka wasn't getting enough chance i❤her
Wow, this sure is interesting hey. It just takes me back to a relationship I had a year ago, where the guy had mentioned that he grew up in a polygamous family, but his not a polygamist yet, haai shem, that was a red flag and I was glad he mentioned that because I didnt see myself part and parcel of that situation.
I have just left a guy I dated for 5 months because he just revealed to me that he wants me in a polygamous marriage. If that was communicated early on, we would not have wasted each other's time.
Felix just reminded me why i like Zulu men.
He is spot on uHlophe on the different paint analogy
Love is not organic anymore❤ we need potions to strengthen what is naturally bound by what is real and true nothing can separate it. Its insecurities at play here.
But Skhotheni is giving mixed signals with regards to having two husbands. She denied it mos and said MojaLove pushed the narative and that it was for clout. What is what vele?😮😮😮
yaz nami im so confused...she was on Mac G said it was for the show ....not real
I believe this was shot before her interview on Podcast & Chill.
Ngathi uphila amanga ai
Ungayi ngoTumi.Shes true to "herself"
I'm so confused
Likening love potions to vitamins is like, I have a headache but you take the panado for me.
Indoda yami ngcele ibe njengoFilix bandla😅
Gogo Skhotheni looking so beautiful 😍
This was too short💔💔💔…. Part 2 please
No, I have to disagree with you, this nation does not need a softer gentler man, What for? You just need to look around carefully to realize we are at war. We need man who will affirm and guide...
I think we need softer men because many men where raised to be strong. Being told men don't cry. Which has lead to men being angry and not being able to express themselves. Leading to men some men expressing themselves in toxic and violent manner. That's why we have such high rate of GBV.
Gogo Skotheni is in the confessionals arguing points that were never made lol, either that or the editors did her dirty
Iziyoyoyo they are dancing ipiano, while man of other nations are in boardrooms
Bra T-bose 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽❤️❤️❤️
Bra Tbose closing wonderfully said
Post all the past episodes admin please.
Mara guys korobela how when polygamy was or is a thing? Isn't that a contradiction. Ae! these conversations are to be taken with a grin of salt bagaetsho. Mare Thabo ke grootman 💙🤝🏽😍