Did you just nonchalantly say the LS3 was putting out 535 horsepower. Why would they sell the LS3 at 535 horsepower, when the LS7 was only putting about 5:05? And a much more expensive option? I think you meant to say 4:35
I have owned a 13 GS for about a year and a half now. I bought it with 24K miles in FT Lauderdale and paid 32K used at a Chevy dealership. I added Comp cam, Kooks headers and X-pipe no cats with stock Corvette mufflers as well as Circle D converter, ATI balancer, catch can, Holley Intech CAI, 1000CC injectors and Flex fuel system (plenty of E85 here). On Mustang induction dyno it produces 467 RWHP, closer to 500 on a Dynojet.. I'm still in cheaper with same performance and I doubt I will ever drop a valve. Plus, I can take the targa top off and enjoy the sun. Try that in your Z. Certainly not to take away from the Z, I love all Corvettes but we all have our favorites and the GS is mine
I probably spent less than you for my mods, but my C6 Z06 has heads and cam, injectors, headers, MSD and flex fuel. It made 640rwhp and 571ft lbs of torque. I gladly skipped out on the targa, for the raw power delivery of the LS7.
Dude, this was a really solid comparison video. You touched on all of the key differences and points. I have a C6Z and love it. I did a RPM heads cam package which really woke it up. Just wish I could take my top off.
For me I would get a Z06 all day long, get the heads done, different cam and enjoy that glorious sound. A properly sorted Z06 I feel will be a better investment.
Great video, I own both C5 Z and C6 Z both cars are HCI cars . once you fix the Valve issue on the 427 its on another level 😎 the GS is a awesome car as well
Cool video. I have owned both. I had a 2008 C6Z H/C/I bought it supercharged had 5 owners 2 accidents reported bad decision on my part. Nothing against a C6Z fast car but this paticular one was a huge money pit n had many problems so i finally got tired of throwin money at it so traded for a 2010C6 GS 1 owner car 23k miles X pipe n muffler delete only. Absolutely love it. It is an auto car n silver vs the black C6Z i had which was a pain to keep clean. The GS is obviously not as fast but as far as just a great daily that sounds good looks good n dig the targa top. If i wanted more power could do some bolt ons but for now i am content. Ultimately it is personal preference both are cool cars but i myself like the GS better for what i use it for.
Whatever corvette you buy, aside from buying a lemon, you're a winner! I just picked up a bone stock 2013 LT3 GS with manual transmission and love it! The wider body gives it a really nice look, alot of people complain about the factory bose and paper speakers, I think it sounds pretty good! Ive noticed going for a rip on a hot day, the top can make alot of creaking sounds on the roads. I need to do some digging if there is something to reduce that, beyond turning the stereo up!
My best friend has an intake/catback Z06 and I have an fbo GS, in a straight line he’s about half a car ahead of me. Most people don’t do real track time and taking the top off is great. I love my GS.
At the 3:38 minute mark you spoke of 535 HP and I didn't read anywhere in the comments that anyone else had caught it, whereas, it's rated between 430 HP and 436 HP - which is par for the course for the LS3. ¿`_
@@VetOnVettes here's another little ditty that I haven't read or heard of - press and hold no. 4 on your D I C, tap number-one 6 times, depress number 4 and tap it again and by tapping it again it goes down Page by Page the TCS being responsible for your traction control and abs you can then while you're driving and on the Fly tap reset and you may have to repeat tapping reset, but a connection will be made and you'll be on your way again with no more notifications on your D I C, all done while driving! ¿`_
As far as the interior badging, only the 12-13s has GS interior badges. Different steering wheel trim and much better seats as well. Love my 11 GS but I do wish I had 12-13 steering wheel and seats. Cam, headers and cai and now I have Z06 hp.
When I bought my C6 GS, I was going back and forth with the base C7, they were both about the same price. I ended up going with the GS, mostly because I thought it looked better and it had lower miles. I like the interior in the C7's way better though. I live in Florida, so I love riding with the top off and just cruising.
I’m in that exact boat now. I test drove a couple C7’s and even though they’re gorgeous, none felt remotely as comfortable or solid as the c6 gs. The C7 interior is styled really well but it’s cramped and feels cheap. My heart keeps coming back to the first one I test drove, a 2013 C6 GS. I’m in the minority I know but I liked it better in almost every way despite how dated it is. It’ll be my daily starting next week.
Z06 would be the hands down winner without the valve issue as it is it's not a good car unless you have lots of extra money sitting around. You have to get the heads fixed right away for piece of mind and then continue to check them. It's a time bomb
The valve issue was non concentric (relative to valve seat) valve guides causing the valve head to shift slightly when seating, work hardening the stem right before the taper. Effected small number of heads. Also the sleeve thickness isn’t the problem unless you want insane low end torque. It’s the ring gap #1 hyper-eutectic pistons #2 11:1 compression #3. I built a 97-98 LS1 Fbody and cracked a sleeve (3.898-3.903). GM increased the wall thickness after ‘98 model year and all subsequent LS motors aren’t known for sleeves being too thin while some are less prone to distortion than others. Application matters. I boosted my stock long block LS7 with 33k miles on it, which I purchased for $33k In the dead of winter. I ran an ECS Novi 1500 centrifugal kit pushing 7lbs of boost making 560rwhp. Lost cylinder 7 due too the top ring butting and the piston pushing up through the stuck ring and losing a portion of the side of the piston. I drove it for another 2,000 miles on 7 cylinders and tried to grenade it on the drag strip. It was still pulling mustangs with trans brakes and slicks when the TSP 427 went in. Now I’m out of blower at 700whp on a mustang dyno. My intercooler is trash so IAT’s kill timing on the rollers. Also the C6ZR1 was manual only. No autos.
Good stuff man. 🤙👍. I need to start having guest (maybe via zoom) that can explain stuff in greater detail with real world experience. Appreciate the input and thanks for watching. 👍👍
If it affected only a small number of heads like gm has said why is it across all model years? Its been discussed but i dont see it brought up. Moving the valve angle to 12 degrees is what some, who i think would know, say is the real cause for the ls7 valve issue and even bronze guides are prolonged bandaid...
@@greg12m3 My Z06 snapped the #2 cylinder exhaust valve destroying the motor. it cost me $7k to get the car back on the road. How you might ask? Texas speed GM aluminum 5.3 sleeved blocked bored with custom pistons with stock crank and rods bringing the the LS 5.3 327 C.I to the original 427 C.I. I had to replaced one of the heads adding steel exhaust valves, double springs and bronze guides. Im waiting to see how well this holds up. The motor is now bullet proof handling way more HP than the stock LS7. My car is an 09 model and according to texas speed a lot of C6 owners are converting the 5.3 to 427 cubes setup.
I can assure you my Z06 had coating issues on the Ti valves. The previous owner had the heads fixed but I did an oil analysis and had high bronze in the oil. Car failed wiggle test as well causing me to pull and dissemble the heads. Physical inspection showed most all of the coating had worn off destroying the valves. Reassembled the heads and sent them to AHP who called advising the valves were shot, confirming my diagnosis. Like $4000 later, I reinstalled the heads and sold the car. The Grand Sport is a hassle free better value for 98% of buyers
@@StochasticWolf No, I had the choice between a very nice Z06 and a newer, perfect GS. I chose the Z06 but regretted it due to the constant worry about the cylinder heads (even when fixed) and similar issue with the connecting rods. I already have a project car, didn’t need another one and the GS would have been a better choice for me.
Totally agree with you, I’m actually thinking to upgrade from my C5 to C6. Used to be a huge fan of Z06 since that was one of my dream car when I was in high school. However after reading too many issues about the LS7, I’m now looking for Grand Sport only, also I love the targa top, the only reason I finally decided to go with C5 coupe instead of Z06 is because I love the open top experience when I still have my C4.
I’m glad you showed the C5Z on the lift, I was thinking “Is that car lifted?” I’ve had both of the C6 you’ve were talking about. Both excellent cars. I do like the worry free LS3 in my ‘12 6 spd convertible but the LS7 does sound pretty sweet. Good review.
I used to have your yellow Corvette in your garage. same one identical. My interior was the black and red with the leather seats black and red. I just got rid of it a month ago to trade it in for a C6 Z06. Which I have to say is definitely better than the C5 in every way. I didn't have many complaints about the C5 but the ones I did were all fixed on the C6. I owned that C5 Corvette for 17 years cause I loved it so much and the transmission went that's why I decided to get rid of it
Grandsport all day for me, as i like the gills and Targa top more, plus the Gumby wheels some c6s came on can be swapped on and are forged and the BEST rim GM ever made. Plus how good they still are even compared to the zo6. The ls3 with just cam and headers can make an easy 500whp and very streetable as my neighbor showed me with his car.
Ls7 blocks also have a cracking issue cylinder and block. I test drove a 2008 Z06 and the clutch was so bad my sneaker fell off. Reved it up through the gears. First gear was way to tall going up to 60 MPH and felt flat on a hot day in FL. I drove away in my base 08 a6 convertible with Kooks/Loudmouth and a first gear with more torque topping at 45 MPH and was very happy. 11.8 @121 at BMR. Nothing like hearing the pipes roar with the top down. My 427 stroked ls3 98 Trans am is my really fast car anyway.
There's something magical and just downright insane about having a car with a engine that makes 600whp all motor without much effort and revs to 7k rpm. It's glorious.
@@da602hustler most of the head cam full bolt on cars on 93 pump clear over 600whp in the groups I'm in. Mines at 592 with stock compression. Might get heads milled next year to hit the magic mark if I stay NA
Some things that weren't mentioned: 1. GS has different gear ratios, and though it has the same rear diff as the Z, it ends up feeling like it takes off quicker, but you suffer in higher gears especially if boosted. 2. The Z has a magnesium front cradle, which reduces weight over the front end. A lot of the performance in the Z cars comes from being so much more lightweight. 3. M6 cars got a dry sump oiling system, forged crank, hand assembled engine, battery relocated to hatch area. This excludes convertibles. A huge added value. 4. The Z cars had larger sway bars, and stiffer dampeners. 5. HUD (Heads Up Display) came standard on Z cars. GS you needed to check the option of get the 2lt or 3lt. 6. Z cars had both carbon front fenders, and hood. 7. Later model Z cars had a carbon option, adding carbon ceramic brakes, and tons of other carbon. Also blessed with the ZR1 aero package. 8. Z cars do not have a heimholtz resonator on the intake, resulting in a cleaner engine bay look. 3. Z cars got a taller center spoiler. Corrections: 1. Not just a run of the mill LS3. They have 821 heads. As stated previously, dry sump engines had forged crank, hand assembled. 2. LS3 rated at 430/436 with optional bi-mode exhaust. Think that's all I got.
I lied. Price difference between comparable years/trim/mileage varies greatly. I bought my 2010 M6 GS in 2017 for $26000. Z's at the time were high 30's low 40's. Now the same GS would be mid to high 30's and the Z would be somewhere between high 30's to low 60's...
I chose Grand Sport because i wanted to go boost with a stock block, get a newer model year for the same money or less, wanted the ability to finance on a longer term if need be due to newer year, liked the stock Grand Sport fenders and wheels better, and wanted a targa. Was in Ohio at the time.... If I had to do it over again....... Moved to Arizona..... I would strongly consider maybe going back towards a C6 Z06. In hot weather states, keeping the car cool with AC on, while racing it, or sitting in traffic on 120 degree days is a legit concern on most 700+ whp boosted set ups. So really a N/A Z with a killer Heads, Cam, Intake mani, & bolt on on E85 would almost do better in climates like this. It may not make as much dyno rwhp as a boosted SBE Grand Sport but with the lighter weight of the Z06 and better gearing a well set up N/A Z06 can be just as fast. Plus I planned on getting heads for the LS3 anyways. So if I got a Z06 i would at least do H/C/I. That would mitigate the valve guide and valve drop issues. Also, since the Z would be N/A the thinner cylinder walls due to bigger bore and closer spacing wouldn't matter too much if the car was properly speced tuned and maintained. The Z would just make for a better daily driver in the heat for summer time in extreme heat & has the potential to be just as fast. Will also always be worth more & more desirable than my GS.
Love to see the same thing with the C7. The gear spacing and the relative costs of the engine has been the biggest stumbling blocks for me. In the C7... I am not so sure anymore. Good stuff and thanks for the videos! Edit: Ah! And thank you for your service!
Great video. Both the C6 Z and C6 GS are awesome cars. I chose the GS as it didn't take much in the form of upgrades to eclipse stock Z capability, and I have the benefit of the reliability and affordability of the LS3 platform. However, same effort on a Z would take it to an insane stratosphere, thus as you said - no winner. Just two great options... even for today's standard.
It’s not a theory: There were a small number of heads that had the valve guides machined improperly in the 08-11 Z06s. That’s it. GM has acknowledged this. No theories, no mysteries.
@@JB-ej8zy It was indeed an issue across all years, hence why the Z28 went on to have the same issues with the LS7 in it. GM only tracked certain years of approved warranty claims for the problem, so that's why their statement says it only pertained to certain years (and why evidence to the contrary muddies the water with respect to the other model years having the same problem).
@@TheTmshuman thats great im glad you havent but ive seen far too many to ever not include 2 grand into the equation if i did buy one. And obviously a z will be faster on a road corse... its faster lol but equal power a gs will definitely hang with a z, theres really nothing much different about them other than the engines especially being driven by an amateur racer...
@@VetOnVettes i just watch your video I've always wanted to buy a vette. Hopefully in 3 year's ill be able to buy one i really like the grand sport my question is would it be a good ideal to buy a used vette from a dealership?
@@mikeanderson2152 I'll give you my .02 as a 55 year old geezer 😁 who's owned multiple sports cars over the years. If your going to go used on a Vette, I'd be much more confident buying from a dealership that has a reputation for selling Corvettes. Find yourself a dealer that has sold them for years and obviously has a good reputation. The dealer I deal with here in Ohio has its own climate controlled Corvette building where they are all stored indoors. And alot of the used Vettes they've sold over the years were originally bought from them, then traded back in for a newer or brand new model. Take your time and do research.
@@danielfair4675 lol. I'll be happy to take it from you, but i get it and i understand it as well. Im going to pay off my car that i have now in 4 year's instead of 6 year's, im not in a hurry. To buy a vette im taking my time there's a chevy dealership not to far me and i believe there more i can find in the the dfw area. I really like the 2016 model i would like to get the grand sport i have 2 1/2 year's to decide what i want to do. On the other hand I've always wanted a vette and it's a goal of mine to have a vetter, thank you for your feed back
I bought my Ls3 from a private party. I got a much better deal then any dealer plau didnt have to pay sales tax. I did however have the car checked out for hours by my shop before buying it. Almost 4 years later I have had to deal with a leaky oil pan and that is all. I have done some modifcations, but nothing to heavy.
There is a difference between the GS that's an automatic and the manual. The manual has the sump oil system like the zo6 and the LS3 is hand built compared to to automatic
Definitely a beautiful car. But convertible is quite a bit heavier, due to an iron frame, while the coupe is aluminum. If I remember correctly they only made an LS7 in last year or two of C6 gen. ?
My first and only Vette I've bought and have ever driven is a 09 Z06. Can't believe how comfortable and nice to drive it is. Anyone who has any Vette is fortunate in my books. In Canada they're still quite rare, and not seen every day. So love em, and drive em, when you can 🇨🇦 :-)
I have a GS with an auto transmission. Why? Because I have zero interest in rowing gears in Houston traffic. As bad or worse than LA traffic. With a CAM, headers, NGK plugs, 160 thermostat and a tune. Its 570 at the crank and 470 at the wheels. Which makes it faster than a stock ZO6. All things considered. The GS is a better buy.
Currently in market. C6 directly. Not opposed to a base model with mods. Prefer Z06. The Ls7 is iconic and well....the biggest displacement. Wouldn't turn an Automatic GS down but prefer manual. Have zero care about the removable top. Owned a sunroof car or truck for the last 10 years and rarely open it. Personally, wouldn't want to store the top in the back or fuss about keeping more glass clean lol. Ultimately, I want a 600hp C6 I can daily 3 seasons a year and I'll be happy.
I have a 14 Z51 with a Supercharger, kooks long tubes, catless xpipe and tuned. 560 hp at the wheels. I can also take the top off. Having said that.. The C6 is just a more fun car to drive. I'm thinking about getting a 13 427 Vert. P.S. a Supercharger is useless on the street!
This is kinda late but as I understand it the LS7 is a great engine to keep stock so it's reliable. When you modify the LS7 you change things that the designers never intended and this is when you start having engine problems. In short, if you don't plan on modding the engine, get the Z06. If you want to mod get the GS. I was dead set on the C6 Z06 till I understood this, not I'm looking for GS's and a bonus is I can take the roof off the GS.
@@VetOnVettes no prob ;) I was just wondering if the title was accidentally mistyped...like if you actually meant to say DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C5 Z06 AND C6 GRAND SPORT.... see what I'm sayin? I thought the yellow C5 was a Z06. Lol anyways...wasnt trying to be a douche to ya.
@@darrenbrown896 all good man. Yeah people tend to get worked up over the strangest things on youtube. Thought you were legitimately upset 🤣. Thanks for tuning in. 👍🤙
@@VetOnVettes also...thanks for your service :) Are you familiar with My Corvette Life guy, Chris?? Well he always starts his videos with a salute...WITH HIS LEFT HAND, no less! I had to tell him not to do that. He apologized as he didnt know. Lol was I wrong???? ;)
It’s Z06 or nothing for me . A grand sport wants to be a Z06 but it’s not . A Z06 is a NA beast and no grand sport in NA form can best it . I have a C6Z and C7Z. There is no way in hell I would buy a grand sport . The hell with having just the looks . I want the whole package .
If they were further apart in price I could maybe see a reason, but 7k isnt going to get you much then maybe a super chager on a c6GS. I guess you could get a big cam and maybe exhaust, but then you would be basically keeping up with a Z and not improving. Now I think if you arent going to get a Z, just buy a base vette and build it. Either way The Z is bad ass.
You have NEVER driven a C6 Z06? You need to go drive a Z for a week and come back with a valid opinion. The internet is filled with those who have opinions on which they know little or nothing about.
Its not about tracking....its about serious difference in acceleration and usable torque. The LS7 is my favorite NA engine to drive ever. DRIVE BOTH then make a new video.
Using it where? Stop light to stop light? Like he said depends on what you want out of your car, you want to drive like your in a race all the time get the zo6. You just want a nice daily get the grand sport throw in a cam and have cheaper insurance
@@benfarr6049 that's an uneducated answer. Just go drive them both and buy the one you love. Having more power doesn't mean you drive like your racing all the time. It just means you have more power. The difference in ride quality is mostly insignificant and so is the insurance unless you're under 25. The Z06 can be daily driven easily. The only real difference is the c6 Z only comes in manual. Most of the stupid crap people say about the Z06 being stiffer is ridiculous. Drive them. I have.
Technically in C6 form you could say the Z06 came in a convertible (2013 427 with only 2,552 made).. but the C6 Z06 in its pure form did not have a removable top from the factory. You could always chop it off. I've seen C5Z made into targas. But C7 the Z06 was optioned with a convertible for the first time.
But if you put $7k into parts, they are probably close. Stock for stock the Z is defd faster, but at a $7k additional cost. I always debating if buying a c6z is better then a zr1 for the price, but zr1 has alot of potential but with a much bigger price tag.
Well the cool thing is you have ZERO obligation to listen to me (crazy I know). I have owned multiple Vettes from C4s to now a C5Z & a C8. I loved my C6 & C7. I have torn down and built up C5s & C6s. It's an informative video to help someone make an educated decision.. or even entertain if you will. This is by far the most aggressive comment I've received in 3 years. Weird. 🤷🏼♂️
Owning a C6z you will always have it in the back of your mind that at any given moment, a valve can drop and despite what many say, there is no concrete permanent fix. Further, a replacement LS7 will run you approximate $10,000 alone excluding labor. For those reasons, GS > Zo6
Z06 guys always get screwed with new gens. C5z, 405 hp, c6 base, 400 then 425. C6z, 505 hp, c7 base, less hp but faster lol. If you want to know where the next gen vette is going, look at current gen Z. Gm screws z06 owners lol. Even the c8, look at the numbers on current z06 and zr1, c8 is faster and cheaper lol. Keep up the great videos!!
A stock C6Z MURDERS a C7base. You are hard pressed to find videos of C7Zs beating C6Zs let alone a c7base model. Stock vs stock C6Z vs C7 base is a MURDERING of a race LOL. And comparing a C8base to a C7ZR1 or even a C6Zr1/Z06 is a joke too. Check the vette forums... guys have ran 10's with a STOCK C6Z and a tire. www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-zr1-and-z06/4380236-stock-c6z06-with-drs-10-8-127-a.html 10.8 on drag radials for a 15/16 year old car... My dad owned a C6GS and now a C7GS, awesome cars. But the above statement is so ridiculous I couldn't allow myself to scroll past it.
@@that427dude wrong....very wrong. A c6z is running 11.5 at 127 according to all publications and fastestlaps.com. c7 is running 11.5 at 120. Some are off and differ by a few tenths. Half a second either way comes down to driver. Also drag radials are not stock lmao. There is no 10 second factory z06. Even the zr1 is high 10s and the c8 is running low 11s. Try again. And the c8 costs half what the zr1 costs, like i said screwed by gm.
First of all the Z is trapping 7 more mph per your numbers. 127 mph is a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT FASTER THAN 120 lol. And let’s just say a stock c6z does only run 11.5, which it doesn’t, you are also comparing it to c7 AUTOMATIC NUMBERS but again the C7 doesn’t run that LMFAO. Like I said my dad owned a c6gs and owns a C7GS and the difference between his car stock and my car stock is NIGHT AND DAY. But since you like published articles so much here is one www.autoblog.com/2019/08/28/chevy-corvette-c8-quarter-mile-0-to-60/ C8 11.3 at 121, C7 Z51 12 at 119, now for the FASTER CARS, C7 Z06 10.95 at 127, C7 ZR1 10.6 at 134. But because you are one of those magazine guys I don’t hold it against you for not understanding how much faster 1-2-3-4 tenths is and 8-15 mph traps. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you want to talk prices, a fully loaded C8 runs 6 figures so don’t act like it’s half the price. They start at $60k basically and you could get a C7Z 1LZ for under $80k when they were brand new. 🤫.
Dont even bother responding. You lost me at “drag radials aren’t stock” 😆 What are we car collectors? Keeping shitty run flats on to say it’s 100% factory... I was just pointing out what the cars STOCK POWER full potential is when you can put the power down. Throw the same tire on the C7 stingray OR THE C8 and neither are running 10.8 with no engine mods AND THEY ARE AUTO CARS (Assuming you’d opt for the auto in the c7 cuz I’m telling you we are talking MULTIPLE CAR LENGTHS c6z vs c7z51 manual vs manual). I already KNOW all of this from real world experience. Keep reading mags though 🥱
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Did you just nonchalantly say the LS3 was putting out 535 horsepower. Why would they sell the LS3 at 535 horsepower, when the LS7 was only putting about 5:05? And a much more expensive option?
I think you meant to say 4:35
I have owned a 13 GS for about a year and a half now. I bought it with 24K miles in FT Lauderdale and paid 32K used at a Chevy dealership. I added Comp cam, Kooks headers and X-pipe no cats with stock Corvette mufflers as well as Circle D converter, ATI balancer, catch can, Holley Intech CAI, 1000CC injectors and Flex fuel system (plenty of E85 here). On Mustang induction dyno it produces 467 RWHP, closer to 500 on a Dynojet.. I'm still in cheaper with same performance and I doubt I will ever drop a valve. Plus, I can take the targa top off and enjoy the sun. Try that in your Z. Certainly not to take away from the Z, I love all Corvettes but we all have our favorites and the GS is mine
I also Own the 2013 GrandSport and I agree with you brother... Nice car
I probably spent less than you for my mods, but my C6 Z06 has heads and cam, injectors, headers, MSD and flex fuel. It made 640rwhp and 571ft lbs of torque.
I gladly skipped out on the targa, for the raw power delivery of the LS7.
Sounds like a badass build! You got any videos of your car? Would love to see/hear that beast.
Dude, this was a really solid comparison video. You touched on all of the key differences and points. I have a C6Z and love it. I did a RPM heads cam package which really woke it up. Just wish I could take my top off.
For me I would get a Z06 all day long, get the heads done, different cam and enjoy that glorious sound. A properly sorted Z06 I feel will be a better investment.
Great video, I own both C5 Z and C6 Z both cars are HCI cars . once you fix the Valve issue on the 427 its on another level 😎 the GS is a awesome car as well
How did you get it fixed?
Thanks Vet, I just bought a 2011 silver Grand Sport automatic today.
I’ve got a 2013 grand sport and it’s got all the horse power I’ll ever need. Love my gs.
Cool video. I have owned both. I had a 2008 C6Z H/C/I bought it supercharged had 5 owners 2 accidents reported bad decision on my part. Nothing against a C6Z fast car but this paticular one was a huge money pit n had many problems so i finally got tired of throwin money at it so traded for a 2010C6 GS 1 owner car 23k miles X pipe n muffler delete only. Absolutely love it. It is an auto car n silver vs the black C6Z i had which was a pain to keep clean. The GS is obviously not as fast but as far as just a great daily that sounds good looks good n dig the targa top. If i wanted more power could do some bolt ons but for now i am content. Ultimately it is personal preference both are cool cars but i myself like the GS better for what i use it for.
Whatever corvette you buy, aside from buying a lemon, you're a winner! I just picked up a bone stock 2013 LT3 GS with manual transmission and love it! The wider body gives it a really nice look, alot of people complain about the factory bose and paper speakers, I think it sounds pretty good! Ive noticed going for a rip on a hot day, the top can make alot of creaking sounds on the roads. I need to do some digging if there is something to reduce that, beyond turning the stereo up!
Greetings from Williamsburg, VA. Navy veteran here. Enjoyed the video. Always enjoyed the styling/trim of the GS cars both c6 and c7
I agree my brother, the GRANDSPORT is just a better looking car... PERIOD !!
My best friend has an intake/catback Z06 and I have an fbo GS, in a straight line he’s about half a car ahead of me. Most people don’t do real track time and taking the top off is great. I love my GS.
Tell your buddy to get a Cam and Heads! So much fun
@@da602hustler he'll end up needing heads anyway.
You misspoke, the ls3 has 435 horsepower, not 535 ;)
He was seeing if you were paying attention lol!
At the 3:38 minute mark you spoke of 535 HP and I didn't read anywhere in the comments that anyone else had caught it, whereas, it's rated between 430 HP and 436 HP - which is par for the course for the LS3. ¿`_
Yeah I miss spoke. 😬
@@VetOnVettes here's another little ditty that I haven't read or heard of - press and hold no. 4 on your D I C, tap number-one 6 times, depress number 4 and tap it again and by tapping it again it goes down Page by Page the TCS being responsible for your traction control and abs you can then while you're driving and on the Fly tap reset and you may have to repeat tapping reset, but a connection will be made and you'll be on your way again with no more notifications on your D I C, all done while driving! ¿`_
I called it as well as he said your only option would be the GS no sir Grant sports came with manuals and the dry sum oil system like the Z
Love my 2012 Grand Sport plus the mods I've done on it 😁🏁
As far as the interior badging, only the 12-13s has GS interior badges. Different steering wheel trim and much better seats as well. Love my 11 GS but I do wish I had 12-13 steering wheel and seats. Cam, headers and cai and now I have Z06 hp.
When I bought my C6 GS, I was going back and forth with the base C7, they were both about the same price. I ended up going with the GS, mostly because I thought it looked better and it had lower miles. I like the interior in the C7's way better though. I live in Florida, so I love riding with the top off and just cruising.
I’m in that exact boat now. I test drove a couple C7’s and even though they’re gorgeous, none felt remotely as comfortable or solid as the c6 gs. The C7 interior is styled really well but it’s cramped and feels cheap. My heart keeps coming back to the first one I test drove, a 2013 C6 GS. I’m in the minority I know but I liked it better in almost every way despite how dated it is. It’ll be my daily starting next week.
@@dailydriven991 me 2
Z06 would be the hands down winner without the valve issue as it is it's not a good car unless you have lots of extra money sitting around. You have to get the heads fixed right away for piece of mind and then continue to check them. It's a time bomb
The valve issue was non concentric (relative to valve seat) valve guides causing the valve head to shift slightly when seating, work hardening the stem right before the taper. Effected small number of heads.
Also the sleeve thickness isn’t the problem unless you want insane low end torque.
It’s the ring gap #1 hyper-eutectic pistons #2 11:1 compression #3. I built a 97-98 LS1 Fbody and cracked a sleeve (3.898-3.903). GM increased the wall thickness after ‘98 model year and all subsequent LS motors aren’t known for sleeves being too thin while some are less prone to distortion than others. Application matters.
I boosted my stock long block LS7 with 33k miles on it, which I purchased for $33k In the dead of winter. I ran an ECS Novi 1500 centrifugal kit pushing 7lbs of boost making 560rwhp. Lost cylinder 7 due too the top ring butting and the piston pushing up through the stuck ring and losing a portion of the side of the piston. I drove it for another 2,000 miles on 7 cylinders and tried to grenade it on the drag strip. It was still pulling mustangs with trans brakes and slicks when the TSP 427 went in.
Now I’m out of blower at 700whp on a mustang dyno. My intercooler is trash so IAT’s kill timing on the rollers.
Also the C6ZR1 was manual only. No autos.
Good stuff man. 🤙👍. I need to start having guest (maybe via zoom) that can explain stuff in greater detail with real world experience. Appreciate the input and thanks for watching. 👍👍
If it affected only a small number of heads like gm has said why is it across all model years? Its been discussed but i dont see it brought up. Moving the valve angle to 12 degrees is what some, who i think would know, say is the real cause for the ls7 valve issue and even bronze guides are prolonged bandaid...
@@greg12m3 My Z06 snapped the #2 cylinder exhaust valve destroying the motor. it cost me $7k to get the car back on the road. How you might ask? Texas speed GM aluminum 5.3 sleeved blocked bored with custom pistons with stock crank and rods bringing the the LS 5.3 327 C.I to the original 427 C.I. I had to replaced one of the heads adding steel exhaust valves, double springs and bronze guides. Im waiting to see how well this holds up. The motor is now bullet proof handling way more HP than the stock LS7. My car is an 09 model and according to texas speed a lot of C6 owners are converting the 5.3 to 427 cubes setup.
I can assure you my Z06 had coating issues on the Ti valves. The previous owner had the heads fixed but I did an oil analysis and had high bronze in the oil. Car failed wiggle test as well causing me to pull and dissemble the heads. Physical inspection showed most all of the coating had worn off destroying the valves. Reassembled the heads and sent them to AHP who called advising the valves were shot, confirming my diagnosis. Like $4000 later, I reinstalled the heads and sold the car. The Grand Sport is a hassle free better value for 98% of buyers
@@StochasticWolf No, I had the choice between a very nice Z06 and a newer, perfect GS. I chose the Z06 but regretted it due to the constant worry about the cylinder heads (even when fixed) and similar issue with the connecting rods. I already have a project car, didn’t need another one and the GS would have been a better choice for me.
Totally agree with you, I’m actually thinking to upgrade from my C5 to C6. Used to be a huge fan of Z06 since that was one of my dream car when I was in high school. However after reading too many issues about the LS7, I’m now looking for Grand Sport only, also I love the targa top, the only reason I finally decided to go with C5 coupe instead of Z06 is because I love the open top experience when I still have my C4.
Too many issues with the ls7?
I drove both and went with the Z06, the grand sport was a little too refined for me, I wanted something more edgy and monstrous
I’m glad you showed the C5Z on the lift, I was thinking “Is that car lifted?” I’ve had both of the C6 you’ve were talking about. Both excellent cars. I do like the worry free LS3 in my ‘12 6 spd convertible but the LS7 does sound pretty sweet. Good review.
I have to disagree on the gas mileage. My HCI c6z gets 32mpg at 85mph on the highway
I used to have your yellow Corvette in your garage.
same one identical.
My interior was the black and red with the leather seats black and red.
I just got rid of it a month ago to trade it in for a C6 Z06.
Which I have to say is definitely better than the C5 in every way.
I didn't have many complaints about the C5 but the ones I did were all fixed on the C6.
I owned that C5 Corvette for 17 years cause I loved it so much and the transmission went
that's why I decided to get rid of it
The GS is nothing but a wide body base model…..That 7.0L LS7 is a game changer even all these years later
I honestly don't think the GS is worth the price. Many sell it for as much as a comparable zo6. The zo6 imo is just better and more special than a GS.
Zo6 had head issues that’s why
Well track times are closer to z06 than a base. Also reliability is a factor as well as targa top
@@peytonponder8488 yeap
Grandsport all day for me, as i like the gills and Targa top more, plus the Gumby wheels some c6s came on can be swapped on and are forged and the BEST rim GM ever made. Plus how good they still are even compared to the zo6. The ls3 with just cam and headers can make an easy 500whp and very streetable as my neighbor showed me with his car.
Grand sport 👍
Ls7 blocks also have a cracking issue cylinder and block. I test drove a 2008 Z06 and the clutch was so bad my sneaker fell off. Reved it up through the gears. First gear was way to tall going up to 60 MPH and felt flat on a hot day in FL. I drove away in my base 08 a6 convertible with Kooks/Loudmouth and a first gear with more torque topping at 45 MPH and was very happy. 11.8 @121 at BMR. Nothing like hearing the pipes roar with the top down. My 427 stroked ls3 98 Trans am is my really fast car anyway.
Try boosting both and see which one last longer. People would be disappointed lmao.
There's something magical and just downright insane about having a car with a engine that makes 600whp all motor without much effort and revs to 7k rpm. It's glorious.
Much effort being 7k possibly, but I agree. Boost is fun but not the same. Boost is an add on, na is a part of the car.
@@da602hustler most of the head cam full bolt on cars on 93 pump clear over 600whp in the groups I'm in. Mines at 592 with stock compression. Might get heads milled next year to hit the magic mark if I stay NA
@@KNS_Racing true, then you could even consider e if you wanted to.
@@da602hustler I'd love to switch to e85 with the higher compression but will have to budget for the fuel system next
Some things that weren't mentioned:
1. GS has different gear ratios, and though it has the same rear diff as the Z, it ends up feeling like it takes off quicker, but you suffer in higher gears especially if boosted.
2. The Z has a magnesium front cradle, which reduces weight over the front end. A lot of the performance in the Z cars comes from being so much more lightweight.
3. M6 cars got a dry sump oiling system, forged crank, hand assembled engine, battery relocated to hatch area. This excludes convertibles. A huge added value.
4. The Z cars had larger sway bars, and stiffer dampeners.
5. HUD (Heads Up Display) came standard on Z cars. GS you needed to check the option of get the 2lt or 3lt.
6. Z cars had both carbon front fenders, and hood.
7. Later model Z cars had a carbon option, adding carbon ceramic brakes, and tons of other carbon. Also blessed with the ZR1 aero package.
8. Z cars do not have a heimholtz resonator on the intake, resulting in a cleaner engine bay look.
3. Z cars got a taller center spoiler.
Corrections:
1. Not just a run of the mill LS3. They have 821 heads. As stated previously, dry sump engines had forged crank, hand assembled.
2. LS3 rated at 430/436 with optional bi-mode exhaust.
Think that's all I got.
I lied. Price difference between comparable years/trim/mileage varies greatly. I bought my 2010 M6 GS in 2017 for $26000. Z's at the time were high 30's low 40's. Now the same GS would be mid to high 30's and the Z would be somewhere between high 30's to low 60's...
All good pieces of info 👍🤙
I chose Grand Sport because i wanted to go boost with a stock block, get a newer model year for the same money or less, wanted the ability to finance on a longer term if need be due to newer year, liked the stock Grand Sport fenders and wheels better, and wanted a targa. Was in Ohio at the time....
If I had to do it over again.......
Moved to Arizona.....
I would strongly consider maybe going back towards a C6 Z06. In hot weather states, keeping the car cool with AC on, while racing it, or sitting in traffic on 120 degree days is a legit concern on most 700+ whp boosted set ups. So really a N/A Z with a killer Heads, Cam, Intake mani, & bolt on on E85 would almost do better in climates like this. It may not make as much dyno rwhp as a boosted SBE Grand Sport but with the lighter weight of the Z06 and better gearing a well set up N/A Z06 can be just as fast. Plus I planned on getting heads for the LS3 anyways. So if I got a Z06 i would at least do H/C/I. That would mitigate the valve guide and valve drop issues. Also, since the Z would be N/A the thinner cylinder walls due to bigger bore and closer spacing wouldn't matter too much if the car was properly speced tuned and maintained. The Z would just make for a better daily driver in the heat for summer time in extreme heat & has the potential to be just as fast. Will also always be worth more & more desirable than my GS.
Love to see the same thing with the C7. The gear spacing and the relative costs of the engine has been the biggest stumbling blocks for me. In the C7... I am not so sure anymore.
Good stuff and thanks for the videos!
Edit: Ah! And thank you for your service!
Thanks man! Yeah I have a few more Corvette comparison videos coming down the Pipeline. 👍🤙
Great video. Both the C6 Z and C6 GS are awesome cars. I chose the GS as it didn't take much in the form of upgrades to eclipse stock Z capability, and I have the benefit of the reliability and affordability of the LS3 platform. However, same effort on a Z would take it to an insane stratosphere, thus as you said - no winner. Just two great options... even for today's standard.
I would almost argue that you could do a super charger on a GS, cam, and heads for almost the same prize as buying a Z then doing big cam and heads.
It’s not a theory: There were a small number of heads that had the valve guides machined improperly in the 08-11 Z06s. That’s it. GM has acknowledged this. No theories, no mysteries.
So is that mean the 06 and 07 zo6 head should be ok?
@@civicekhatch9 no. Early Zo6 I’d get the heads fixed
I’ve read on many blogs and forums etc ghat the valve guides issue was across all years of the c6 zo6
@@JB-ej8zy It was indeed an issue across all years, hence why the Z28 went on to have the same issues with the LS7 in it. GM only tracked certain years of approved warranty claims for the problem, so that's why their statement says it only pertained to certain years (and why evidence to the contrary muddies the water with respect to the other model years having the same problem).
@@JB-ej8zy That is correct, I've personally heard the same thing from actual owners of the car
C6 gs > c6z. No valve issues and no fear running coilovers and having aluminum ears rip off the frame.
😂
Said no one ever
I’ve owned two, one with almost 70k miles no valve issue. Also the GS can’t touch a Z on the track or road course.
@@TheTmshuman 57k no valve issue. I’d wager I have some worn valve guides though. Fingers crossed in any case until I can get the heads down
@@TheTmshuman thats great im glad you havent but ive seen far too many to ever not include 2 grand into the equation if i did buy one. And obviously a z will be faster on a road corse... its faster lol but equal power a gs will definitely hang with a z, theres really nothing much different about them other than the engines especially being driven by an amateur racer...
Maybe a C6 Z06 vs C6Zr1?(:
You said 535 horsepower I think you meant to say 435 on the gs
I did. Thank you. 🤙👍
@@VetOnVettes i just watch your video I've always wanted to buy a vette. Hopefully in 3 year's ill be able to buy one i really like the grand sport my question is would it be a good ideal to buy a used vette from a dealership?
@@mikeanderson2152 I'll give you my .02 as a 55 year old geezer 😁 who's owned multiple sports cars over the years. If your going to go used on a Vette, I'd be much more confident buying from a dealership that has a reputation for selling Corvettes. Find yourself a dealer that has sold them for years and obviously has a good reputation. The dealer I deal with here in Ohio has its own climate controlled Corvette building where they are all stored indoors. And alot of the used Vettes they've sold over the years were originally bought from them, then traded back in for a newer or brand new model. Take your time and do research.
@@danielfair4675 lol. I'll be happy to take it from you, but i get it and i understand it as well. Im going to pay off my car that i have now in 4 year's instead of 6 year's, im not in a hurry. To buy a vette im taking my time there's a chevy dealership not to far me and i believe there more i can find in the the dfw area. I really like the 2016 model i would like to get the grand sport i have 2 1/2 year's to decide what i want to do. On the other hand I've always wanted a vette and it's a goal of mine to have a vetter, thank you for your feed back
I bought my Ls3 from a private party. I got a much better deal then any dealer plau didnt have to pay sales tax. I did however have the car checked out for hours by my shop before buying it.
Almost 4 years later I have had to deal with a leaky oil pan and that is all. I have done some modifcations, but nothing to heavy.
I love the grand sport wheels I can't stand the c5 z06 wheels you're opinion versus mine and probably everyone else
There is a difference between the GS that's an automatic and the manual. The manual has the sump oil system like the zo6 and the LS3 is hand built compared to to automatic
Not in the convertible version of the GS though.
The winner is a 427 convertible, drop top with the LS7 drivetrain...best of both worlds
Definitely a beautiful car. But convertible is quite a bit heavier, due to an iron frame, while the coupe is aluminum. If I remember correctly they only made an LS7 in last year or two of C6 gen. ?
My first and only Vette I've bought and have ever driven is a 09 Z06. Can't believe how comfortable and nice to drive it is. Anyone who has any Vette is fortunate in my books. In Canada they're still quite rare, and not seen every day. So love em, and drive em, when you can 🇨🇦 :-)
I have a GS with an auto transmission. Why? Because I have zero interest in rowing gears in Houston traffic. As bad or worse than LA traffic. With a CAM, headers, NGK plugs, 160 thermostat and a tune. Its 570 at the crank and 470 at the wheels. Which makes it faster than a stock ZO6. All things considered. The GS is a better buy.
Currently in market. C6 directly. Not opposed to a base model with mods. Prefer Z06. The Ls7 is iconic and well....the biggest displacement. Wouldn't turn an Automatic GS down but prefer manual. Have zero care about the removable top. Owned a sunroof car or truck for the last 10 years and rarely open it. Personally, wouldn't want to store the top in the back or fuss about keeping more glass clean lol. Ultimately, I want a 600hp C6 I can daily 3 seasons a year and I'll be happy.
Perfect you nailed it
You got your production numbers backwards 29,000 grand sports 19,000 ZO sixes
I have a 14 Z51 with a Supercharger, kooks long tubes, catless xpipe and tuned. 560 hp at the wheels. I can also take the top off. Having said that.. The C6 is just a more fun car to drive. I'm thinking about getting a 13 427 Vert.
P.S. a Supercharger is useless on the street!
As much as I love my z06, if I could go back I would have gone ls3 boosted instead of going h/c/i/n
Why is this?
@@da602hustler ls3 can handle more power on stock internals if you are modifying, better for boost. As far as n/a goes, ls7 all day.
@@ToppedOut exactly, but like cam heads ls3 somewhat keeps up with a stock Z. Do you think a boosted ls3 could beat a c/h/intake z?
@@da602hustler LS3 boosted will beat H/C/I nitrous C6 z06
@@ToppedOut really?! I saw a video where a z still won. Maybe it depends on boost levels because ive seen alot of C/H/I Z06's beat stock zr1's
The LS3 is 436 hp not 535 as you stated.
This is kinda late but as I understand it the LS7 is a great engine to keep stock so it's reliable. When you modify the LS7 you change things that the designers never intended and this is when you start having engine problems. In short, if you don't plan on modding the engine, get the Z06. If you want to mod get the GS. I was dead set on the C6 Z06 till I understood this, not I'm looking for GS's and a bonus is I can take the roof off the GS.
If you get a LS7 and immediately fix the heads ,you are good. But yeah, I just bought the GS also.
Had a yellow c5z before my c6z! Loved it!
Thanks. That makes those of us waiting (for YEARS) for another Vette SO MUCH better.!
@@Capncomeback2023 more time to save brotha
That's the way I'm looking at it.
I thought they both have an aluminum frame. I thought the only the base was steel?
I thought the same thing for the longest time. Yeah, only the Z06 & ZR1 are hydroformed aluminum.
Which makes the GrandSport heavier but a more solid built car..
Where did you order the tick master cylinder for the clutch from been trying to find one for my 06
Amazon of all places. $304.
@@VetOnVettes thank you I've been looking for one for my Z06 for a long time didn't think to look on Amazon
Just curious why you are comparing 2 C6s and you drive a C5?? Am I missing something here?
I've owned every Corvette minus a c1, c2 & c8. It's fun to compare and contrast. Didn't mean to offend you by not CURRENTLY having a C6. My bad man.
@@VetOnVettes no prob ;) I was just wondering if the title was accidentally mistyped...like if you actually meant to say DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C5 Z06 AND C6 GRAND SPORT.... see what I'm sayin? I thought the yellow C5 was a Z06. Lol anyways...wasnt trying to be a douche to ya.
@@darrenbrown896 all good man. Yeah people tend to get worked up over the strangest things on youtube. Thought you were legitimately upset 🤣. Thanks for tuning in. 👍🤙
@@VetOnVettes lol hell no! I'm a subscriber! Keep em comin bro!
@@VetOnVettes also...thanks for your service :) Are you familiar with My Corvette Life guy, Chris?? Well he always starts his videos with a salute...WITH HIS LEFT HAND, no less! I had to tell him not to do that. He apologized as he didnt know. Lol was I wrong???? ;)
8:43 those Forgestars!!!!
Best looking rims on C6 in my opinion.
It’s Z06 or nothing for me . A grand sport wants to be a Z06 but it’s not . A Z06 is a NA beast and no grand sport in NA form can best it . I have a C6Z and C7Z. There is no way in hell I would buy a grand sport . The hell with having just the looks . I want the whole package .
Exactly my sentiment. I couldn’t own anything under a Z06. Had an 02Z and now an 08Z
Balling
If they were further apart in price I could maybe see a reason, but 7k isnt going to get you much then maybe a super chager on a c6GS. I guess you could get a big cam and maybe exhaust, but then you would be basically keeping up with a Z and not improving. Now I think if you arent going to get a Z, just buy a base vette and build it. Either way The Z is bad ass.
I agree. But in my opinion, the Z is definitely better looking, as well.
All facts
Just do hci z06
No worries all fun
If you have a Vette in your garage you are better than average. 2008 z51 3lt drop top. How to spell fun.
please dont add an "exciting"soundtrack at the back when you talk! this is very distracting. for the rest; thanks a lot for your video!!
No it’s not your only option GS is comes manual as well
GS has a hand built engine
Only when equipped with manual trans
@@KNS_Racing and NOT a convertible.
You have NEVER driven a C6 Z06? You need to go drive a Z for a week and come back with a valid opinion. The internet is filled with those who have opinions on which they know little or nothing about.
Dude nice beard
Its not about tracking....its about serious difference in acceleration and usable torque. The LS7 is my favorite NA engine to drive ever. DRIVE BOTH then make a new video.
Using it where? Stop light to stop light? Like he said depends on what you want out of your car, you want to drive like your in a race all the time get the zo6. You just want a nice daily get the grand sport throw in a cam and have cheaper insurance
@@benfarr6049 that's an uneducated answer. Just go drive them both and buy the one you love. Having more power doesn't mean you drive like your racing all the time. It just means you have more power. The difference in ride quality is mostly insignificant and so is the insurance unless you're under 25. The Z06 can be daily driven easily. The only real difference is the c6 Z only comes in manual. Most of the stupid crap people say about the Z06 being stiffer is ridiculous. Drive them. I have.
He said the gs puts out 535hp. Smh
z06 power !
Z06 has removable top also lol
Technically in C6 form you could say the Z06 came in a convertible (2013 427 with only 2,552 made).. but the C6 Z06 in its pure form did not have a removable top from the factory. You could always chop it off. I've seen C5Z made into targas. But C7 the Z06 was optioned with a convertible for the first time.
Dude I had one clear removable top yellow 2011 Z06 not arguing just sayin
You say there's no real winner but that's not true. If you race the clear winner is the z06
But if you put $7k into parts, they are probably close. Stock for stock the Z is defd faster, but at a $7k additional cost. I always debating if buying a c6z is better then a zr1 for the price, but zr1 has alot of potential but with a much bigger price tag.
First off, that's a C5, behind you, NOT A C6! Also, WHY should we listen to YOU?
Well the cool thing is you have ZERO obligation to listen to me (crazy I know). I have owned multiple Vettes from C4s to now a C5Z & a C8. I loved my C6 & C7. I have torn down and built up C5s & C6s. It's an informative video to help someone make an educated decision.. or even entertain if you will. This is by far the most aggressive comment I've received in 3 years. Weird. 🤷🏼♂️
@@VetOnVettes Im not trying to be aggressive. Just seems like lack of respect for your cars. But, they are your cars!
c6z06 and c6zr1 are the best of both worlds stop the bullshit fellas you know deep down wich is better
Owning a C6z you will always have it in the back of your mind that at any given moment, a valve can drop and despite what many say, there is no concrete permanent fix. Further, a replacement LS7 will run you approximate $10,000 alone excluding labor. For those reasons, GS > Zo6
Yeah I would imagine that thought would get pretty taxing 😳
VetOnVettes757 also, they seem to sell for the same price on Autotrader. Can’t imagine why...
I do have this worry in my mind, until new heads and valve train are installed.
Aren’t getting new heads the permanent fix???
Harrison Fowler No. There is still a chance it can happen.
Z06 guys always get screwed with new gens. C5z, 405 hp, c6 base, 400 then 425. C6z, 505 hp, c7 base, less hp but faster lol. If you want to know where the next gen vette is going, look at current gen Z. Gm screws z06 owners lol. Even the c8, look at the numbers on current z06 and zr1, c8 is faster and cheaper lol. Keep up the great videos!!
A stock C6Z MURDERS a C7base. You are hard pressed to find videos of C7Zs beating C6Zs let alone a c7base model. Stock vs stock C6Z vs C7 base is a MURDERING of a race LOL. And comparing a C8base to a C7ZR1 or even a C6Zr1/Z06 is a joke too. Check the vette forums... guys have ran 10's with a STOCK C6Z and a tire. www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-zr1-and-z06/4380236-stock-c6z06-with-drs-10-8-127-a.html 10.8 on drag radials for a 15/16 year old car... My dad owned a C6GS and now a C7GS, awesome cars. But the above statement is so ridiculous I couldn't allow myself to scroll past it.
@@that427dude wrong....very wrong. A c6z is running 11.5 at 127 according to all publications and fastestlaps.com. c7 is running 11.5 at 120. Some are off and differ by a few tenths. Half a second either way comes down to driver. Also drag radials are not stock lmao. There is no 10 second factory z06. Even the zr1 is high 10s and the c8 is running low 11s. Try again. And the c8 costs half what the zr1 costs, like i said screwed by gm.
First of all the Z is trapping 7 more mph per your numbers. 127 mph is a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT FASTER THAN 120 lol. And let’s just say a stock c6z does only run 11.5, which it doesn’t, you are also comparing it to c7 AUTOMATIC NUMBERS but again the C7 doesn’t run that LMFAO. Like I said my dad owned a c6gs and owns a C7GS and the difference between his car stock and my car stock is NIGHT AND DAY. But since you like published articles so much here is one www.autoblog.com/2019/08/28/chevy-corvette-c8-quarter-mile-0-to-60/ C8 11.3 at 121, C7 Z51 12 at 119, now for the FASTER CARS, C7 Z06 10.95 at 127, C7 ZR1 10.6 at 134. But because you are one of those magazine guys I don’t hold it against you for not understanding how much faster 1-2-3-4 tenths is and 8-15 mph traps. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you want to talk prices, a fully loaded C8 runs 6 figures so don’t act like it’s half the price. They start at $60k basically and you could get a C7Z 1LZ for under $80k when they were brand new. 🤫.
Dont even bother responding. You lost me at “drag radials aren’t stock” 😆 What are we car collectors? Keeping shitty run flats on to say it’s 100% factory... I was just pointing out what the cars STOCK POWER full potential is when you can put the power down. Throw the same tire on the C7 stingray OR THE C8 and neither are running 10.8 with no engine mods AND THEY ARE AUTO CARS (Assuming you’d opt for the auto in the c7 cuz I’m telling you we are talking MULTIPLE CAR LENGTHS c6z vs c7z51 manual vs manual). I already KNOW all of this from real world experience. Keep reading mags though 🥱
@@that427dude go back to fast and furious. The c8 made your daddys gs obsolete...as well as yours. Same story with each gen. End of story.
7 L naturally aspirated V8! Anything else just pails in comparison
Zo6 with blown motor ! You put a ls3