MOTOVUDU - TRACKDAY BIKE - Where Is Your Money Best Spent?
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2017
- Getting lots of different advice? We've created a quick guide on where your money is best spent on your trackday bike.
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Best advice ever. Don't waste money on bikes, buy something good enough, spend money on track time and tyre.
Great tips. Spend your money on track time and you'll figure out on your own where your bike could benefit the most.
He is absolutely correct. Best money spent is track time, period. Second is "good" riding instruction. Third is tires.
Put suspensions first in terms of actual bike stuff. Tyres, after, then tracktime :)
and then beer and chicks?
I recommend spending the money on setting the bike up for you, Rear sets, clip ons, breaks, tires, grips, levers, suspension
I'm delighted that I made the correct choice to prioritize tyres over everything else. What about sprockets? Most tracks don't have a long enough straight to max out a literbike in 6th. A shorter gearing helps me unlock the acceleration afforded by the top-tier race rubber out of corners. Personally, I run my RSV4 100% stock (just remove mirrors and plates before hitting the track) with a -1/+2 sprocket setup.
Great advice, develop the bike as you develop your skills
Step 1; loose the beer gut
I love you 😂. I've learnt so much from your videos. Took what I'd learnt to Snetterton a week ago and will be watching all your videos again before I go Brands next week. Thank you 👍
Great advice, and i must admit to wanting that brand new bike, but in all honesty i know i havent developed my skills enough yet to even need a bike like that. I dream of racing one day so i take it to heart when you say track time itself is the most important thing to buy (that and tires! Lol). Thanks alot dude
I spent 3800$ on an 06 CBR600F4i W /12,000MILES, DOWN 2 times hard. Know my limits... Working up to better braking then when i outgrow the factory equipment I get upgrades...wait to outgrow it before you blow money. Got great Dunlops Q3, RoyalPurple....stator and transmission protection bars..oil pan catch incase of crash which i already dumped 4 qts on my second crash just doing figure 8s ...thankfully it was an abandoned parking lot....frame axle bar sliders on..getting good personal body armour leather. Getting race plastics. But keeping it road legal. Only 5300$ invested. I learned this from golf instrucing. And Im going pretty fast. 1 55 on a 2.2 mile track. Only 4 months on sportbikes for 4000 miles In the canyons. 125 miles on track. Working on footposition body position and being one with the bike...oh and going at 70% until I get rail smooth. Im 56 and wanted this since I saw Kenny Roberts racing. When i was bout 10. It is everything i thought and way more. Better than piloting al airplane, bunjee jumping , downhill skiing and skydiving....Adreneline gives focus power. Bikes are Best. The best part is im not afraid but im mindful and respect what im doing. If I can drop 20 seconds I can compete. But riding in a crowd changes everything.
100% agree on all accounts!
this video helped me a lot to know what to do what not every video is helping me to get better
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very good video ! Thank you !
Awesome advice.
Thanks for the tips 👍
Best Advice 👍🏻 ! But already I make a mistake buying high powered bike 😭
Sell it
So? Learn that one. I started on a 1000cc for the track and yeah, it is hard, but you can surely so it :)
Nice advice simon🙏🏻
Right on point!
When I drove the GSXR1000R at 9 degrees Celsius on the race track for the first time I was afraid of the power. The solution was to go into B mode. 14 trackdays later the A mode was awesome.
And Simon's right, of course. Foot rest system. Steering damper and brake pump with corresponding brake pads are certainly more important than carbon rims.... but the handling with the light things is also not to be despised. But only if everything else is right.
good advice Simon, please also tell newbies to stop buying slicks they can't keep warm. Start on a good road sport tire, it really will keep you safer on the track than going around on a cold slick
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Hi Simon, I have to disagree with the tires, unless you are fast enough to keep the tires warm. I have a few friends that road slicks and ended up going down due to not getting enough head in the tires. I run a Dunlop Q3 or stickier Q4 when I can afford it. Running in upper intermediate class and trying to get more seat time. I believe suspension, brakes and good track tires are very important. Most stock suspension is adequate for beginners within a reasonable rider weight. Maybe I misunderstood what you were telling riders about the tires. You give very good advise and please keep it up!
instablaster.
If the temperature of the tires is being kept too low, then surely the solution is to air down the tires until they are being pushed to operating temperatures?
Agreed, save money on expensive tires and wait until your speed needs them. Most "hypersport" and the like (Q3+, Q4, Power 5 - Cup 2, S22, RS11, Supercorsa.... etc), are plenty of tire until getting into better Advanced paces and cheaper, especially when found on sale. I would think Good bike(400 - 1000) Crash protection, Brake pads/SS lines/Master Cyl. then Suspension or Slicks then finally exhaust/tune/engine work..... Mostly what ive seen needed. I think most people over in Europe and England are better riders than average american rider so they may start at a good pace already and might change things up.... and most americans are larger than Europeans.... so suspension comes into play sooner.
Got an R6
Putting Diablo Corsa II's on
Road & Track....good in the wet too and half the cost of Super Stickies
You can also do a camp with a school who provides track prepped bikes. No need to store it or maintain it, get top notch coaching and not cry too much when you bin it. Put the money into yourself altogether instead of the bike.
A good suspension setup was the first thing I did. Standard stuff was no good for me at my weight.
As you ride faster and faster, you need a louder horn! Just beep beep people as you go past and make everyone's day.
I lean all the way with continental sport attack 2s and they are sport touring tires.. it’s all about the rider
I would think first thing you want to is get you suspension professionally adjusted to suit you and your riding ability/style
Great advice! How a tire video next?
Get fit, run and cycle, plant based diet, hydrate, plenty of sleep. No probs.
Big Fan of yours and all the work and guidance going on , I'm 34 years old , finally took my full bike licence, at sort of bike I could buy used that would be a friendly daily road ride to put some miles on and could do an track day now and then ?
I dont know re road bike because I don't ride in the road, and the problem is that a road friendly bike will not be a good track bike as they are two different things. Personally, I'd get a couple of year old Japanese sports bike as my first trackday bike. Value for money and reliable
I only bough an RC 200 and I'm more broke then ever!!
But look forward to ride at the track though. Have been riding only about a year
Enjoy and stay safe
In terms of gear, would you say it's better to spend money on the best protection and suit available like the RS Taichis or something cheap? And your thoughts on airbag vests. Thank you
Hello Simon, my son purchased a 2016 R1 with 7,000mi. on her. I have a question about front suspension, manufactures that have the same adjustments in both forks vs. Ohlins and maybe another manufacture having separate adjustments in both forks. I do realize that everything is run off of a triple tree. How about binding up on 1 side, maybe rebound? I was told that the companies skimp to make it cost less. My son hopefully will be racing next year and wanted your view on this topic.
Thank You
Hey simon, is setting sag done the same way on electronic ohlins as it is on traditional suspension? I just recently picked up a 2017 CBR1000RR SP and want to get the sag set up ASAP. Thanks!
You mentioned keeping the back wheel on the ground under braking. Why is this necessary? I'm old enough to remember Steve Baker & Kenny Roberts standing their bikes on their noses. If the braking is in a straight line then the best braking should be with the back wheel a few inches off the deck shouldn't it?
You only need to ask yourself, why are you braking at all?
The people who put thumbs down just to let u know this man would make u look silly on a motorbike lol
For 🦆sake... this is why cal crashhoe is the the best out of bsb. Blow your money on a 2005+ bike and a good coach. Most coaches are hot-air has-been bullshitters who only are a coach to get free track time.
Edit: unfortunately affording hot-air has-beens at a trackday is a better deal than buying a $1200 pipe, but if you are serious save up to go a dedicated gp camp. (2-4 days)
What about rearsets? Isnt that quite important?
Yes they are! I apologise for missing them out of the video. Doh! They are one of the first things I would get, probably only tyres would come before. Long low original pegs means your boots are on the ground too early and you can't lean enough to turn well or use the track specific tyres to their potential.
@@motovudu ok ive been thinking about investing in some but wasnt sure if it was worth it. Mainly to get comfortable and hoping to have a good base on the bike during breaking and cornering however, wasn't sure as you didnt mention it.
do you do rider training in new Zealand? cheers
At the moment no we don't do any rider training in New Zealand.
Do you guys do any training in the US?
Hi, at the moment, no we are not currently doing any training in the US.
First thing first, get a V4R.
Best fucking advice thank so much. Can u do a video on what’s all in your trailer
Sure Darrius we can do that, always happy to hear ideas for videos
I’ve also made that mistake as well I just bought a 2018 Yamaha R1 😔 in June of 2018...
@@butlerville23 me too I bought a 2016 r1 last August
So for starting out on track....600cc or 1000cc? I am 6 foot...206lbs without protective gear on. If 600cc range SV650 or R6, etc?
SV650 is a great bike to start on
go for 1000cc. Buy once, cry once.
The rear squats under acceleration? I was taught that this is a common misconception and that it actually rises 🤔
It squats when you're on the gas. The only way it could rise like you said is from chain force if the swinging arm pivot is set too high, but that puts a lot of force into the tyre because the suspension can't really do its job (when the throttle is open). Hope this short explaination helps.
Motovudu Who the hell am I to disagree!? Thanks for the explanation! The other lesson I've seen on here of yours, through MCN was steering/ cornering on a closed throttle 🙈 I remember Michael Neeves blown away by how effective it was, but contrary to what I was taught Keith Code style throttle tightens the bend... guess I need your expertise 🤣
Motovudu the keith code explanation is it does not squat. Pull your front wheel up to a wall. Now release the clutch and give it some gas. Does the rear rise or does it squat down?
What happens to your shock mid corner? It compresses. What happens to the swingarm angle when your shock compresses? It moves closer to parallel with the ground. The use of throttle doesn't cause it to squat, but cornering forces do.
If you have a well setup shock, your rear will squat less and give you more control under throttle on the exit.
Nanderlizer Nanderlizer -- OK, and what does basic physics say?
What are the best tires u recommend to use for the track
Do you mean brand or type of tyre Darrius?
The brand Simon
I use Dunlops but it really depends what you ride, where and how fast. I use KR108 rears and KR106 fronts. If you tell me what your ride, time of year (season) and how fast you are (level of rider) I can give you a few recommendations... for example it's hard to beat the Pirella super corsas on a 600
Also where....
Motovudu I will be riding 2018 R1 , it will be my first time on the track I can adapt pretty fast so I’m pretty sure they will put me a fast group after 2 sessions I’m hoping lol, I see what u mean Simon I’m a newb so I really need the help on what tires to take out there. Also , I will be riding in September and the track is called MotorSport Ranch Cresson in Texas.
Guys.Naked biked good for beginner track ?
Fariz Fansuri I just got a 2001 sv650 naked.
Theres nothing wrong with riding a naked bike on track. With the right tyres etc they are fun. I wouldn't go out and buy a naked bike for the circuit though, a sports bike is worse to ride on the street in my opinion, but they are absolutely made for the track.
his right I just crashed
If your watching this now I GUARANTEE you spent too much on your 1st track bike 😂😂😂 I did
no mention of steering dampers? they deserve a spot I'd say on some bike more than on others perhaps no?
Ok, so i need a turbo on a hayabusa, thx