Strikers vs Wrestlers: Stop Takedowns with this Punch
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- The FIGHTTIPS coaches discuss strikers' takedown defense strategies against wrestlers, the different rule sets between UFC and ONE with Demetrius Johnson's recent switch, and how Conor vs Khabib 2 might look. Comment what city you'd like us to come visit for a seminar!
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Vince 'The Anomaly'► / vincetheanomaly
Coach PJ► / trainwithpj
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I like how everyone respects each other’s respective arts and skills
thats how it works at most Martial Arts gyms, atleast where ive been. although i always stay away from the "mainstream" competitive gyms because i feel that the practices there are a bit to "robotic", the last one i practiced at was a Muay thai gym, but the first thing we did when i got there was capoeira drills as warmup and i loved it, now i mix my muay thai with a bit of capoira since one of the trainers did capoeira besides MT. not the flashy flippy stuff though but some of the "easier" kicks can be implemented really well into muay thai and really catches people off guard. im going for MMA or BJJ next i believe though because i have no ground game at all as of now
Yeah but its mostly because they keep it down to earth. Nobody there is arguing one style vs the other, its just looking for the best option and way to go.
People who don’t respect each other martial arts aren’t even martial artist they’re just annoying ufc fans
Every boxer, wrestler, MMA guy, Karate guy, Taekwondo guy I’ve met has respect for people and the difference in fighting “style”. It’s the people on the fucking internet who don’t respect each other🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tyree Henry you have never met a martial artist if you genuinely think this.
Make more of these, I could watch these all day
Oh alright, good to know! Tried something different for this one -- glad you liked it!
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Absolutely, I've been a fan for years, but there's something about watching various martial artists discuss fight theory that just captures my attention fully. It's like I'm immersed in the conversation myself and it makes it easy for me to learn things on the fly.
Love ya Shane
@@ciphbudd7102
I invented guns
YA
I like hanging out with friends all day as well👌🏾💯
Would be nice to see some more of these conversational vids Shane. Awesome content
Thanks for the feedback, Ben! We tried something different for this one, so it's great to hear you're liking it.
you guys should have a episode whenever you can when you all just talk about whats currently happening in mma/combat sports.
anime is a art form you mean like a podcast
Not just talk, show what's happened there and what could happen like they did in this video... it's really cool
Bro that would be awesome
YESSS
I really like these discussions you guys had I would really like to see more!
The power rangers of the martial arts world 😂😂😂
That's a compliment, for sure
I'm not trying to offend ,I just like the way you guys move at the end of all the videos ,it's funny 😅. LOVE THE CHANEL
oh my god i love them even more but nohomo bro and that was funny as hell
Loool.hahahaha
It's Martial Time!
This video is perfect to show anyone that believes that fighting is just a brainless thing, done by brainless people
JustMe anyone who says that knows nothing about fight
Fighting is brainless. Intelligent people avoid violence. The costs are too high.
@@T1Oracle So youre saying that masters of specific fighting styles that know the human body better than 90% of the people in the world are brainless people...
Some people fight to get a better life not every country gives the same oportunities to their poor people than those in the west gives
You might not like Mayweather but hes the living proof of an intelligent fighter and is showing that hes a good entrepreneur
If thats not enough for you go watch Lomachenko training his brain
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Most people in the world avoid fighting but dont forget theres more stupid people in the world than smart people
JustMe fighting isn't for brainless people... Sadly a lot of brainless people think they can just simply do it...
@@T1Oracle intelligent people understand the danger of fear and avoiding risks and opportunity is far more deadly than the risk of physical harm
I learned that uppercut from Duane Ludwig. Where you load and switch stance as they shoot for the lead leg. It's called a swing back in Bang muay thai.
Yeah I do BMT at a local gym and it's a great punch.
That’s right, drop your lead leg back, stop the momentum, hit with an uppercut to a guilloitine choke
its like a shovel punch...sugar ray used it sooo affective...good stuff lads
*Takes out Pen and paper
*Takes out gun
"Whoops"
*Takes out knife
"Where the fuck is my notebook?"
*Takes out fist
"I mean, I guess..."
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Everyone talking about there specific field was really frickin cool man. Good job
Even the really casual, conversational content is filled with useful tips and actual substance. Quality stuff
Great video! Really like the way that you guys break things down. Very easy to assimilate. Looking forward to more!
This was a great video! Would love to see more of these, all 4 coaches comparing their knowledge about a certain topic.
New Video Idea: How to Defend against a Takedown Fake Overhand 💡
i dig this format of tutorial…breaks away from conventional questions and opens up for on the spot questions that one wouldnt have asked if all stuck to script…doing it freely like this also allows the ppl recorded to move naturally and might give a look where you can modify the tech based on situations…it feels like were apart of the conversation…keep it up fellas and whats good with the restock on the double end bag? im tryna support!!!
I really like the format to of this video!! A conversation like that bouncing around ideas in open form is huuuge! Thank you!
Who's here after Derrick Lewis ko'ed Curtis Blaydes with a rear uppercut?
Because of the nature in a takedown, your only successful moves in stopping all that body weight is shorter lever strikes.
They also need to come from the hips and out, not from the chest and down. This basically boils it down to uppercuts, knees and rising elbows. (In a street fight elbow to the back of the head will end it immediately).
Most importantly is your stance. The reason strikers will almost always lose to a takedown is because they are bladed. The lead jab will be slipped and your rear hand is far too short to reach your opposite hip. You need to be squared so that your rear hand is closer to strike or simply post on his head. Being squared also opens up your knees/push kick and is easier to sprawl from this position.
Lastly, the most effective solution would be to combine the best of both worlds. Master your whizzer and sprawl and strike when you've dismantled the attempt.
they shoot with their head up and fast/fake if you spawl. A elbow to the back of the head would not solve anything as I will not produce enough power to stabilize the whole force.
@@AlexGomez-rn4lj Truth. It's also easy to miss landing clean and flush when someone is moving that quick and low and is that determined to get on you.
Some of the Best Wrestlers in MMA have said that bladed stances are harder to take down because they initially limit Wrestlers to the single leg and force them to reshoot for a double or body lock. They also claim that the single leg is the easiest Takedown to escape, so I don't think that being Bladed is the reason. I think that panicking in unfamiliar waters and hoping for a one shot flash KO is the biggest reason.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Well they way I usually think about it when versing other styles is what do they and what situation they needd to do it. Then I find a way to avoid those situations or counter them. Wrestlers often need to go from a clinch to a take down or move in so they can cut the distance. They can also catch the kicks. So when I fight ppl who main take downs, I always try and gauge some distance on them and if they go low, I go low with them so my intercepting strikes can reach them quicker... anyway... that's my take
@@AlexGomez-rn4lj dont need to stabilize any force just make them go night night.
These discussion vids are amazing Shane. Keep them up!
I'm liking the variety in uploads. More of this would be nice. This was really awesome to watch.
I like how casual this video is but they look like scientist talking theory on their specific fields.
Perfectly said.
*You guys should do more Q&A videos*
That way you can connect to the community.
Great video I like the way they just chill and chat while giving good tips and info almost like a barbershop style fight review
I am a retired professional mma fighter from a really high level school and I have to admit that I really like this video, your tips and your team. Free flowing exchange of information from different styles and emphasis. I got the vibe that there is some intelligence in your medium which I really appreciate. I just built a home gym in my basement and I found your channel searching for double end bag workouts. Keep up the good work!
come to Brisbane, Australia. Hell yeah
Do a video on single leg high lift takedown video
I loved this, haven't checked out your channel in a cool min, but this was super informative and I will definitely check out more like this, thanks for uploading!
This was such an amazing breakdown. One of my favorite vids of yours.
I was just wondering how to stop getting taken down so much in sparring and Shane and Bubba just came through!
Sprawl. This is a limited defense not intended to replace traditional takedown defense.
Fightips podcast ? Deffo got to get on joe rogan sometime shane
U gay?
@@kudojay1840 no
Yo your videos are pretty helpful for anything. From self defense to workout tips, I just started and digging a lot of your content, brother! Thanks of the videos!
what a phenomenal video, it's so natural to see you guys arguing about those things, make more of these.
I wanted to see one of them bring up the lead elbow
Bring back the "violence is not cool, fighting should ONLY be done in self defense & bullies suck" it really inspired me, and i hope it inspires more people.
You guys are awesome! You make great videos that are fun to watch and easy to understand. Thank you
We need more of these, this is my favourite video Shane has made.
Come over to Bangalore, India whenever you can!
It's like watching scientist working on the perfect mixed-up of mma.
I’m a huge fan of this format. Natural breakdowns!
Dropping knowledge. Great video. Other tutorial vids would benefit from having an active student standing by asking questions as you do here, this is how learning happens in the real.
Wreslters are tough man. As a striker, I fear fighting wreslers. For some reason BJJ I can handle...but Wrestlers....damn.
Edit: Really though, I love how these guys discuss Martial Art, it's like seeing scientists discuss quantum physics.
Wrestling requires way more conditioning a think.
Bjj is pussy shit wrestling is about power and dominance
@@openveinsblueblood8294 spoken like a true martial artist. Lol gtfo
Same here even though I trained mma and karate aswell as some pure BJJ. A BJJ black belt with not so good take downs is less of a worry than a D1 wrestler, especially on concrete cause I could get dropped on my head if I'm not careful. But a black belt is useless if you cant take the other person down. By their black belt, everyone should have decent takedown offense and defense. I'm hard to take down but I still can be by good wrestlers
@@openveinsblueblood8294 laughs in Royce gracie vs ken shamrock
Conor Could have used this vs Khabib.
@@Tom-qz8xw and he tried to stop the takedowns!!!1!
@@themetal5587 Personally I don't give a damn. This guy shouldn't be running his mouth about something that 1- (has been over for weeks now) and 2- (a fight that in no way, shape or form, involved him. As for what you said my father can try, but know that he has been abusive before and at the point I am at in my life now I would probably murder him or anyone before I ever let them put their hands on me. This is all in self defense of course but, I take this sort of thing seriously and you shouldn't even be making jokes about it.
@@Tom-qz8xw Yes this channel just likes to leave ignorant comments that try to upset people.
Connor coulda used a gun.
Most of you in these comments acting like sensitive crybabies. It's just a comment, stop acting butt hurt.
Great vid. Love watching elite specialists offering their technical subject matter expertise. Also the commentary, albeit brief, on the different mma meta in ONE where knees to downed opponents are allowed. Hope that lets people think a little differently about that aspect of the ufc ruleset and how much wrestlers benefit from it. Bubba(?) is great. Hope he has a channel for me to subscribe to too
These kind of videos are sick, felt like I learned something’s here. Y’all should do more
Come to Portugal 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
Australia wants you, come through!
@1EccentricMoFo I was thinking something more like Dorrigo or Coutts Crossing, but Perth would be nice too.
@1EccentricMoFo North Eastern NSW, where the goon is rich and the dampa is fresh.😍
I want more videos like this. Excellent work as always gentlemen!
lovin' this conversational approach!
come through to Ireland boys. There's tonnes of gyms that would love to see ya'll talk and discuss
much love for this channel, been watching it from just shane to becoming a full team
I want to see them in China, at a Kung Fu event, or at a traditional Kung Fu temple showing them western martial arts.
Yeah I want to see them at a Kung Fu temple
@@noace1038 i hope the kungfu monks would be happy to welcone them, but i doubt it
A Tai Chi master did challenge a MMA fighter to a fight and he got knocked out in 12 seconds his reply after fight was that MMA is a violent disrespectful fighting style that has no honor lmao
@tmWasted but there r still many "masters" like him in there, i hope real contact sports can becone more popular in china
I would put my money on shaolin monks any day in a bare fists street fight to death against any of these guys.
Kerala. In india where kalari payate was born which is a very different type of martial arts that you guys will be interested in knowing.
This channel has improved a shit ton over the years. This was quality.
Love all the videos you put out! Keep making them!
McGregor loses to Khabib EVERYTIME!! and im Irish!! He has alwas been way overrated, couldnt beat Diaz.
I mean best featherweight ever, and top ten lightweight because hes talented but he is a small 55er and he is ppl say he's the best striker in mma I disagree I think he's the best counter puncher but, striker would be Anderson Silva hands down.
I was one of the few who called Diaz winning the 1st fight. Won money from it
That's weird because he did.
dave blueballz 8 month difference between comments tho
We'll see next time then the trilogy will be at 155 I believe
Only if Connor watched this
He would still lose
Hey brother idk if you actually read all your comments. Your contend is extremely valuable and continues to get better Awesome video, my coach and I have been working this concept of throwing the uppercut while switching stances against a strong wrestler and I actually executed it in my last fight and got the KO. I’ve been watching your videos for years and use a lot of your training techniques and training concepts! A huge fan of your work, FOGHT TIPS FOR THE UNDERDOG! 👊🏽
lol multicultural squad over here
Type3timetravel basically my friend group lol.
@I’m Green
Without lookin at color? But.... YOURE GREEN!
They are from the same culture, just different skin color.
im always the one that makes my squad into "multicultural" lmao. Im Korean so.. not many of us walking around.
Same culture, they're all americans. Obviously there are different cultures in the US but still.
Usually culture and behavior is what divides people, not skin color.
Only way to beat a wrestler is BJJ.
All Americans, State Champs, and Olympians are subbed by blue belts. The 190lbs 6 best wrestler in NJ (NJ is a top 5 state) gets subbed by 160-180lbs Renzo blue belts in seconds.
The level of wrestler you have to be to beat a BJJ guy is huge.
Even though BJJ is a great skillset to have against wrestlers, it's not end-all be-all. No martial arts is distinctly superior to the other. You get good wrestlers, who know how to chain-wrestle and also keep position then you're fucked. It's dependent on the athlete and their skillset/fight IQ.
Depends on the strategy. Try and pull guard on a wrestler, you get fucked
I think catch wrestling is more effective
Once a wrestler gets familiar with submission, I think the wrestler usually wins.
Ever try FMA ? Forget the mat , try a method to win a life threatening fight.
man.. I've been looking for this video... Thanks so much guys!
I like these relaxed videos from time to time - keep em coming
*Spar Ginger Ninja Trickster*
ohhh no no ninja some serious
Bump
I second this.
I think lacked stamina was a conor only downfall.
pohhtaent majorkey yes but khabib outxlassed him
Amkilz A yeah, also khabib keeping pressure on his chest while in positions took a lot of gas out his tank too
These were some really good insights. These kinds of applications--in the overlaps of the traditional disciplines--these are some of the most interesting things to hear about from experienced mma fighters who have a gift for explanation and analysis like this.
Best mma channel out there, pure knowledge whole way throughout
I want to see more videos of such type! You guys are awesome! Big love!
Amazing how accurate you're videos are! Never ever seen any bs techniques from your channel!
Nice debate from experts. Love Vince's creativity and switching stances style.
I think Bubba is right. I live in Dubai and got to know about Dave leduc from your videos and started following him. He recently moved to Dubai and I ended up meeting him in public open workout facility. I wish you good luck. Doing a good job of bringing in more of these useful info's for the passionate amateur fighters.
Awesome video man !!
Just a bank of knowledge sitting in front of the camera !
You should make more of this style of video
I loved the style of this video it was amazing. Please make more like this
It's cool to see you guys just hanging out and then spontaneously get into a fight tip, experiment and come to a solution.
Thank you CZcams for refreshing this to top of my videos. This video is always great.
This was so dope I had to come back to this vid in 2019. We need more after the Trip Shane.
This? Is your best video yet. And that's saying a lot, given the plethora of excellent videos you guys have. We need to see more of the Fight Tips Coaches.
And... what are your thoughts on Silva vs Adesanya?
Excellent video Shane, Thanks from France !
the team is complete. great to see you together guys
Just stumbled across your channel for the first time; this is great stuff!
I like this. I like the fact that they sat down and traded ideas and opinions.
You guys should make more videos like this one! Loved it!
This was an excellent video and really informative. Come to Australia Bubba!
Love the concept of grapples vs strikers and the respect these guys have for eachothers disipline
Thats such an awesome team you have amassed shane, some very talented guys all with great personalities too. Looks like it would be just as fun hanging out as it would be training with you all. If you ever do a seminar in the UK im there for sure. Long time fan keep up the good work
So much knowledge shared here. I felt like I got an insight of what different styles are thinking when they fight.
I like this style where you guys are all together talking about something it’s very fun to watch make more please
Awesome Shane,keep up the good work.
These discussion style vids are really neat.
This is a fantastic video! Thanks!
Know I'm late to the party on this one but this video is great. Just a bunch of passionate, knowledgable guys talkin shop. Like watching musicians just jammin. Also good luck to Coach Vince next weekend!
Excellent episode. Very helpful.
This is such good information, especially as a casual MMA fan that wants to understand a little bit more about what's going on in the octagon.
This was easily one of the best videos yet.
I very much enjoy Jenkins' perspective and would like to see him featured in the channel more often.
Dude. That shot though. Even at this speed you can tell there is so much power in his blast double AND he sets it up very well. Scary shit. Respect.
Nice a very informative and progressive analysis of the fight. Keep it up guys awooowah!
Cool video! I like the conversational vibe!
That was one of your best videos ever and thats that i never saw a bad onr from you :D
Keep these going. Good stuff
Would love to see more of these types of videos!
Good stuff guys! Should do more conversational videos where you all game plan certain things you see in fighting!
Great techniques guys. Appreciate it.
This was sick, loved the content