Yamaha MT-09 OIL BURNING SOLVED? 2021 MT 09
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(2022 Mt09 sp owner) With everything computer controlled now, it's better to keep it stock. Besides I never understood making the bike louder and then putting in ear plugs...LOL
I've kept the standard exhaust on my 2023 MT 09. Has enough power for my liking, stock sound is fine, saving my hearing from additional noise, been kind to my bank account.
The black stuff on the pipe if it is from the exhaust could only be from fuel which relates to being rich if anything but maybe only when warming up? Should not leak there but it is an aftermarked pipe vs the stock exhaust which is a totally welded up stainless steel box basically with two exhaust outlets slamming the exhaust note into the street where it bounces back up so you can enjoy the lovely song!
My brother, fantastic video, I would like to prefer how you installed the oxygen sensor since in the original system it brings it to the other side .. you would help me a lot with that, thank you
Earplugs might save you from getting tinitus. The damage to your ears comes from the wind noise for longer periods at higher speeds and not so much from your exhaust
True. Wind noise at 60mp/h or 100km/h around 96 to 105db. For hours! (depends on your helmet) Got a tinitus while daily riding to work with an SH300. It is quiet af, but wind kills your eardrums over time.
Just a thought about your sound issue… you may want to consider trying AirPod Pros with noise cancellation. I rode with AirPods sometimes before I got a Sena, they fit in my ears well. The new ones I got with noise cancellation block a ton of sound. Maybe worth considering.
I hadn’t considered using air pods. I’ll definitely look into it. Thank you!
To solve brake noise simply buy brake pad lubricant stuff remove pads and smear a little on the backside of the pads. What causes the noise is oscillation between the pistons and brake pads ....people assume it is where the pads actually contact the rotors but no it is the other side of the pads high frequency oscillation ...a problem with some models since disk brakes first appeared. Weird how one bike or car does it while 10 others may never who knows why
That’s super interesting and counterintuitive! Thanks for sharing this info!
You mentioned you bought extended warranty my guess is aftermarket exhaust and/or "tune" will void that warranty for engine failure especially seeing how already the shop ascribed the oil "burning" issue to overly lean condition caused by the aftermarket exhaust ....so if the motor failed? Of course they will look at the "documented" problem and say "OH! It was severely low on oil for a number of miles, Hey you might want to just cash in the balance of your warranty just saying
Don't get rid of the bike. It's best to go back to stock. I love the stock exhaust. I usually get burned by those type of exhaust that sticks out. I like the stock exhaust design. I got one more year till I get my bike. I'm going to leave it stock.
They say that stock is good for resale value as well 🤷♂️
Not sure if this will help, but according to tankslapmoto, who has an 2021+ MT09 SP, allowing the bike to idle until the fans kick on then hitting the kill switch while leaving the bike in accessory for 5 minutes may allow the ECU to self adjust via the O2 sensor.
Interesting! I hadn’t heard that before, thanks for the info!
You have a source on this so i can read some more? i have a 2021 mt-09 with full akra system with oem tune, i havent had any problems so far. No engine light etc so i guess the o2 sensor still keeps up with the new setup. But knowledge is not have to carry and if i can do some to make it even more safe without going all in would be great =)
Hi there. I do like this Yoshimura exhaust and I'm curious how does it work with a baffle in it? That should cut off the extra air and fix the problem with lean fuelling & making sound more comfortable for your ears.
The db reducer has definitely made it quieter and a bit more comfortable (I must have sensitive ears or something though). Unfortunately it hasn’t seemed to prevent the bike from running lean 🤷♂️
@@TylerCharest damn... I thought that it might have help with an air-fuel mixture.
Maybe baffle + going back to original air filter would help?
I'm so glad everything is okay with the bike. I did that to my little Honda Cb. Had a Coffman slip on and damn thing blew my ear drums out every time I rode it. Also I lost some power. My little bike lost 10mph I hated that. I didn't have a chance to put the stock muffler back on cuz it was wrecked in an accident. Meow with the MT09 2021 to 2023 I love the stock muffler design tucked under. The only thing I hate is that stupid tail and I would do the same like you did. I got 550 days left in getting my bike. I will try getting the base 2023 model. Meow if I'm luck to get the SP model I would jump and get that one. I just hate the long wait. In the end at least I don't have to worry about Having notes
Building our ability to wait is a superpower! I imagine that CB was pretty damn loud!
that gasket must be very good then
Was the oil level in the sight glass going down as you put on miles? Is that how you determined you were using oil (I won't say "burning" oil)? Or did you come to the conclusion that you were using oil purely due to the black soot leaking at the slip joint and accumulating on the exhaust system? If your oil level is not going down, you are not using oil....that black would be from a too rich of a mixture. If the oil level IS going down, you are either leaking it or you are burning it (past the piston rings and/or valve guide seals). Don't let the dealer fool you by telling you that the oil is "evaporating".
Good points. The oil was progressively getting lower in the sight glass. There weren't any visible leaks, so my assumption is that the motor was burning oil. The bike's still in the shop, waiting for Yamaha to approve the warranty work. Should have some definitive answers soon!
I know two people who were over filling their bikes with oil and of course the engine blew it out over a short time. The manual tells you to fill the bike with it standing up straight not on the side stand. If you fill it on the side stand you will put in 1/2 quart too much. They just kept dumping oil in and complaining about oil burning. I just cut a piece of 2x6 to go under the side stand which puts the bike about perfect. Since this bike is liquid cooled 10-40 motor oil is all you need. Thicker oils can cause problems and additional ware on cold starts.
I think you should get some of that italian goodness. V4 Streetfighter or Brutale
Agree!! I've been creeping on the V4...Maybe I'll fix this one and add something Italian 🙀
get the vyclenut ecu flash
From watching your videos on the MT09 it becomes very apparent you don’t understand much of anything about mechanics. The problems you have had with the MT09 are directly caused by your actions and not understanding how the bike works. The bad thing about this is you shot your mouth off about the MT09 being a bad bike. This probably persuaded many people not to buy a MT09 which would have made them a great bike. Before you start blabbering about something and sending out all over the world make sure you know what you are talking about!!!!
You must be a pretty good mechanic yourself. I think your right about this issue being caused by my not having the bike properly tuned. I appreciate you calling out things that I've gotten wrong, that's how this community can become more educated. Hopefully your comments have utility for other viewers. 👌
@@TylerCharest I was not trying to say you are stupid but any engine and it’s controls must be in sink to work correctly. These late model machines are playing a very tight line between burning up lean and staying within EPA requirements. Absolutely any change to the exhaust, air intake or fuel delivery system requires a complete recalibration to avoid damage to your engine. Despite what some after market suppliers would have you believe Yamaha didn’t leave much HP on the table. The most gain I have seen on the Japanese big four is not worth the cost. Only 5 or 6 HP in the top rpm range is all you can get over stock on a MT09. If done correctly this will currently cost you $2,800.00 at minimum. To me it is silly to pay nearly $600.00 per hp that only comes in at near red line. These mods will cost you a little torque and hp in the 3 to 5,000 rpm band where you use the bike most. I understand the love of the sound of aftermarket exhaust systems and they make you feel fast. Truth is they don’t do much for you but the police love them.
Bottom line I have a really close friend who has done the entire aftermarket list to his 2021 MT09. After almost $3,100.00 he gained .10 of a second in the quarter mile. I ride with him regularly on my 2022 MT09 and he only has an edge above 110 to 115 mph. I prefer to ride in front of him because of the noise.
If there is a bunch of carbon deposit, that means it's running rich.
I have the xsr900, a 2022 model. Stock everything and charged my oil at 8000 miles, I was missing 1 quart of oil exactly….. on a stock bike.. don’t know what to do
Damn dude, sorry to hear that. I don't know if its a common issue, but I've seen a couple people have some oil burning issues. Usually it's been linked to an aftermarket exhaust. A bit strange for a stock unit to be burning oil. If you're still under warranty, I'd get it to the shop asap!
@@TylerCharest I just reached out to another MT09sp rider. If he has the same issue, it’s a factory problem. I also don’t mind adding in oil every 1000 miles to top off though. Still love the bike.
@@RowdyMornings When people say their bikes don't use a drop of oil between oil changes that is complete nonsense. Over 8000 miles your bike will burn oil. It's normal. My zx10r has 90000 miles and uses a fair amount of oil. The same as it did when it only had 15000 miles. This has been the same on all my bikes over the years. You as the owner should be coming home after a couple rides and checking the oil level once the bikes been shut off for a few minutes. Takes seconds to check and top up to the upper level.
@@aidenlothian9642 I check at every 500 miles. Between 3000 and 3500 miles, I notice a half quart low. I just add and keep moving.🤷🏻♂️
mmh, your yoshimura is a full system is it!? I dont think the exhaust is the problem, I'm also using the Arapovic full system for my MT09 2021 without fuel remapping at all. I'm also change the air filter to the DNA filter, so it means more air than usual, and the bike was so lean and great after I did the changed. Coz of the full system so expensive, some of my friend using the slip on and exhaust pipe was custom for the MT-09 (Replica), and the bike still running good. I think you should bring it to some good garage and check the problem probably, some dealers only talk shit and know nothing about the bike. From what you said the guys didnt connect the ECU to check the air, the fuel, didn't do anything except asking you a few question and schooled you.
You may be right! Glad to hear your bike is running properly👌💪
Any update on if the stock exhaust fox the issue ? Going through the same issue with the same exhaust but mine is professionally flashed as well. Want to know if I need to fix the engine cause of damage
Full tune and still burning oil 🤔 that’s odd.
Since taking the exhaust off, the bike hasn’t burnt any oil. Haven’t been back to the shop yet to have it looked over again, but it seems to be running well.
@@TylerCharest Did you have a lot of popping? Cause maybe it could be an exhaust leak at the headers. From what someone told me
@@bikelifebandittjesse9487 That's interesting...I dont think I had much popping going on. Who knows though, certainly could have been 🤷♂
hi! may i know how tall you are? just for reference. thank you.
For sure, I’m 5’ 9”
Man the fact that you're running LEAN means you've put the internals under a severe amount of unnecessary stress. I'd go and get your engine completely checked over to see if it needs a rebuild. Just don't sell this and make it someone else's problem PLEASE.
Absolutely, the bike is under warranty for another 20ish months. I'll have it thoroughly checked and repaired before I sell it👌 It would be bad motorcycle karma to not fix it first!
@@TylerCharest You the man!