The Most Powerful Shadow Group of Spies & Assassins That Run the World | Chris Hansen & Zach Treitz
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Zachary Treitz & Christian Hansen are the creators of the new Netflix documentary 'American Conspiracy: The Octopus Murders'.
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OUTLINE
00:00 - The Wackenhut Corporation
08:48 - Making The Octopus documentary
17:03 - Christian's belief about Danny Castolaro
28:57 - Are Chris & Zach in danger?
35:02 - The mysterious man at Danny's funeral
44:24 - Cabazon indian reservation & covert ops
59:52 - Trusting sources
01:06:26 - The CIA arms dealer
01:17:42 - Howard Hughes CIA connection
01:21:10 - Zapruder film deception tactic
01:29:31 - Bob Lazar; Area 51 hand scanner
01:34:32 - Michael Riconosciuto
01:36:58 - Tom O'Neill; Chaos; MK-Ultra
01:40:26 - The PROMIS software
01:45:04 - Earl Brian
01:50:55 - Rigging of the 1980 election; October surprise
02:03:37 - $2 million Dec Vax computers
02:08:21 - How powerful was the PROMIS software?
02:13:20 - Israeli Intelligence; the Mossad
02:20:03 - Nuclear submarines
02:31:27 - This investigation is a "hall of mirrors"
02:36:04 - Chris & Zach's conclusion on Danny Casolaro
02:40:34 - The man who most likely killed Danny
02:53:57 - Backlash & criticism
03:08:15 - Maintaining sanity while making the film
03:14:03 - The future of The Octopus Investigation - Zábava
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Please get Rick Doty on, and also Luigi Vendetteli.. who is making a new film about Bob Lazar with a a VR experience of area S4 it's gonna be most incredible.. project graviture is his company \ website. ok thanks.
You really should look into doing an interview with Whitney Webb. She is very knowledgeable on the whole "octopus" and shadow government.
I was already taking Cordyceps and Lyons Main so Mud water is interesting to me. I'll try it out.
@@markymark5281was thinking the same thing! and I would looove to see it. I wonder if she is still in Chile, idk her situation but traveling to the U.S. just for the podcast, it could be a prohibitive element. Though i know it would break the consistency of in person, if she live streamed in, it would be worth it.
The netfix gig was the absolute best produced, written, directed story I think I've ever experienced, can't wait for the other 4 episodes and possibly even, I might actually also find myself reading the book, thanks so much lads...
Loved this interview. Warning for all listeners: it works fantastically as supplemental material to their Netflix documentary, but will be confusing if you haven't yet seen it, due to the incredible intricacy and depth of material.
Watched the Netflix doc. Incredibly well done. As the story develops, its INEVITABLE Danny would be unalived. Danny was looking into matters that could have disrupted the order of things in the US at that time in the 90s. The idea that he unalived himself by slicing his wrist over 12 times is LUDICROUS!
What's the name of doc?
What’s the name of the documentary?
Check description i believe its american conspiracy something about an octopussy @@WanderingGod117
American conspiracy: The Octopus Murders
@@joshbergman6217 thx!
The biggest question I had after watching this Doc was, "How do you miss the Maxwell connection to Promis?"
The Octopus is Thee Tip of the Iceberg Disclosure Doc! Christian & Zach made something incredible. This is only the beginning…. Great podcast Danny!!
lol the documentary basically says at the end that it’s impossible to know if anything is true because everyone is involved is either knowingly making things up or mentally ill. Only the beginning?? Nothing even started..
I have studied this case for years, and I really appreciate the discussion on it. One of the small details that I found compelling was the fact that one of the last people to see Danny alive was a gas station attendant, who brewed him a fresh pot of coffee before he went back to his hotel room. I don’t think anyone who is about to kill them self wants to be awake for it.
Would this argument hold up in a court of law, in front of a judge?
@@EthNick16 That’s a great question for someone who would make such a claim.
Say what? Be awake for it? People drink coffee cause they enjoy it, not necessarily to stay awake. This doesn't say anything really.
@@kirknelson407 you are literally the person who made a claim. Would your claim hold up in court of law?
@@EthNick16 I’m not making a claim of legal proof of anything. I made a CZcams comment about a “small detail that I found I compelling.” If you are interested in the court case there is a huge amount of documentation you could look an instead of doing this. I recommend Eliot Richardson’s (former Attorney General) Rebuttal to the Bua Report and the addendum.
Watching the series may be the only way to understand this conversation
So, basically Wackenhut started a prison business, then the Cabazon Indians made bullets for third world guerillas, then somehow, related or not, a guy who had a funeral got a medal from some mysterious army officer, then the CIA killed a few people, throw in Bob Lazar's hand scanner....and guess what? Yup, Wackenhut made the scanner. BOOM!
It isn’t though. It’s equally convoluted and confusing
Danny's face when he was introduced to the concept of for profit prisons.....Lol can totally tell he had no concept of that prior to this interview. Love the show great work!
For real. When I was working my way through college I was offered a prison guard job with Wackenhut. Turned it down because it paid half what state guards got paid and they wouldn’t guarantee my schedule. To guard prisoners, which is a dangerous job. It was like applying for a government job, and the whole thing had an odd fed/spook vibe, down to the nondescript office in an unassuming and sort of run down office building. Really weird company.
See for me, it highlighted why he’s way out of his depth in these interviews and is wasting opportunity to have profound conversations if he did the most basic homework and took a Masterclass on interviewing 😣
@@QuadraticCoStanza He’ll get there
for sure as thats not really something that should exist.
Danny faces at things are priceless.
I feel like the guy on the left represents cough syrup while the guy on the right is adderall and Danny is Gary Busey's son
You fking nailed it dude 😂
Rofl. Ha ha. I cant unsee it now.
Lmao garey buseys son...wheres he been since starship troopers??
@user-vn1di4oq4w he's been in quite a bit he's pretty good actor as his father
LMFAO ... Yooo I just died soooo fucking funny.
I was born in 1950 and it was absolutely fascinating to hear the back story of what I lived through! So many dots connected.
I lived in DC during the Reagan years as a hairdresser near DuPont Circle and was following history unfold before my eyes.
What a lot of people don’t know is that Reagan emptied St. Elizabeth’s hospital and put all the crazy people on the streets of DC, without their meds and made it impossible to sit in the parks because the homeless were sleeping on the benches.
I moved to Charlottesville in 1988 because DC wasn’t livable any longer.
Wow😢
I need to smoke a big fat joint and drink a sixer to follow this one, and I've been sober for 16 years now.
PROMIS was the precursor of Pegasus.
👏🏼👏🏼this guy 🫡
Whitney Webb has some interesting things to say about PROMIS.
Promis = US
Pegasus = Isreal
Petya = Russia
Derived from wannacry
jews as always
@@steakeye4808how can I listen?
The guy trying to send them crazy weapons sounds like an agent trying to set them up with a charge.
Danny seems to learn so much in every interview, and apparently is disabused of that info by the time the next pod is filmed
Lmfao Buddy is fried and probably doesn’t even smoke pot
Either he’s a complete dumbass or he’s a decent actor trying to play a Joe Rogan.
Reading and learning so much in so little time probably got his mind running like a crack head. You say hi and 3 mins later they've told you about every conspiracy they know rapid fire and you feel like you got flash banged after
@@camm102 its the smelling salts
Nobody mentioned that Danny was found with his wrists cut and A BAG OVER HIS HEAD. Who puts a bag on their own head before cutting themselves? I'll wait...
You do it after
Wait who?
They told that in documentary
Sounds kinky
During the early 80s there was a boy who committed s by putting a plastic bag over his head. He did nothing more than the bag. It was a few weeks before he was to enter the 9th grade. We knew his uncle well. I only say this because it can happen. Am listening to this interview now so have no opinion yet on the death of DC
This was such a great conversation. American Conspiracy is PHENOMENAL. The most mind blowing thing I’ve ever watched, and so well-presented. This podcast was perfect to follow it up with.
What a clusterfuck of a conversation. I'm 2 hours in and still none the wiser
I’m 20 mins in and I feel like I would fail a 5th grade math test, right now. My brain can’t handle the impulsive back n forth dialogue
All right I thought that might have just been me, good to know... I feel like these guys just wanted to hear themselves talk and the way they interrupt each other is so awkward.
Fucking accurate 😂
Never been so confused after a podcast 😂😂
Same! Two hours in, and I’m still just as confused as before I started it. Sounds like it could be an interesting story if I knew what was going on!
Had no idea where they were going...
This is sooo good. I've been dying to hear from the creators of the enthralling docu series. The story seems so far fetched and convoluted they did an amazing job of making it make sense. I was hooked! Hearing about their journey into make the doco was fascinating. Answered many unanswered questions I was left with after watching documentary. Great work koncrete!
WOW, I started watching (American Conspiracy. The Octopus Murders) Yesterday on UK Netflix , got 30 mins in, was gripped but had to leave for a prior engagement,
Thanks guys
definitely should watch the documentary before watching this to really understand whats being discussed here
I have followed this since I read Cheri Seymour’s book, “The Last Circle” when it came out.
We shouldn’t even be talking about suicide, it would have been physically impossible for him to do so after severing his tendons and muscle on each arm. Just impossible.
He was murdered, plain and simple. I think I know why he was murdered, and it wasn’t child trafficking.
These guys need to do a documentary treatment of the Franklin Scandal
It’s already out been done “conspiracy of silence” banned by Discovery Channel, and like Christian said he can’t really speak on any other conspiracy besides this because it’s the only thing he’s looked into
What's that?
@@ericte2400 Check out Nick Bryant
I spent the weekend watching and rewatching this documentary. There were times that I became concerned for Christian's safety, seeing the similarities between Danny's drive for the story and Christian's drive for answers. Wonderfully done, great interview as always. Thanks for the engaging and thought-provoking content!
Holy shit, I've been seeing this documentary on Netflix and couldn't find the willpower to actually get myself to watch it. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Its all here say and fiction so its not that serious.
@@PeterGibbonns How much do they pay you Mr. Gibbons? Lol
What’s it called? Why is that info not easy to find in this post?
@@scottzigart3138let me know when you find out
"Between the idea & the reality, Between the motion, And the act, Falls the Shadow
I always said that J.C. Penny was up to something and people just said i was paranoid.
IDK how my local one is still open. There's fiends constantly boosting stuff and hardly anyone actually buying stuff in rhere
@@itsme7570 Then store is just a front. They make their real money in other ways.
@@itsme7570what's the JC Penny story?
@@nonmups9973 what are you talking about?
Great talk! Shedding light on this story is huge for the public at large to understand. That 13 part series on ghost stories for the end of the world is like a masters degree in the octopus!
I watched the documentary and it was amazing. I had no idea what any of this was so I stuck with it and I was not surprised that things like this are done. I’m sure there’s any more stories like this.
The octopus murders is AMAZING!!
I was in So CA during covid lockdowns. The LB harbor had shipping container ships were lined up along the coast for miles for weeks. I wondered what was happening in the empty sea, sea lanes, empty oceans while all commerce ships were parked on the coast of the world.
You mean that they could've been parked out of the way of traffick for something like construction?
Loved every second appreciate yall
Wackenhut was also doing airport security before TSA, if I'm not mistaken.
Allied universal too
Allied actually recently purchased G4S which had purchased Wackenhut. Which also had obsolved blackwater… They all have roots in the Pinkertons and the secret service. All parts of the treasury department.
Danny!
You shows are consistent the best CZcams chats around!
I remember that even as a young child in 1980 the timing of the release of the hostages appeared obviously orchestrated to benefit Reagan, and that it was criminal as hell to do that to the poor hostages.
My grandfather took me to the very first tax free cigarette operation on the Cabazon rez in Indio around 1981. It was in a small construction trailer with nothing else around. WAAY before gambling etc.
Chris & Zach are truly 2 of the most double-minded, flakey people I’ve listened to. That’s saying quite a lot since I’ll be 69 this year.
They don't seem to realize that they are supposed to be taking to the Utube audience. I had no idea what they were even talking about. Bye.
Whitney Webb talks about this in her 2 volume book One Nation under Black Mail. You should try and get her on
She’s a smart, accomplished young woman. No way Danny’s team would know how to treat her.
@@MartineReeda woman who has had kids at her age is more accomplished than a careerist.
Keep up the great work Danny! Love your content! Shout out from Lake Elsinore California
Make sure you stay in mexifornia, jose
Another banger, Danny you have improved so much yhr past 2-3 yrs, keep it up ace
One of the best documentaries ever. Opened up so many doors closed none. Want more so much more to know.
Big fan here in Beautiful Gorgeous Bangkok Thailand 🇹🇭 🙏 🌺 Thank you for your awesome work. These Dudes are absolutely fascinating and amazing. Excellent interview and incredibly eye opening for the sheeeple. Keep on ROCKIN and STOMPIN and staying healthy happy and safe😊 🙏🌺🇹🇭...
Wakenhut has history and connections with the Pinkertons and the secret service. Wakenhut after this scenario was bought by G4S which had also purchased blackwater. Now at present time G4S was purchased by Allied Universal. Fun fact…. Pinkertons and secret service were originally commissioned by the Treasury Department which is closely related with the Justice Department 😊
nuh uh
@@samhndrds believe what ya like, but you can look it up and make the connections yourself... And more lol
Also worth noting, Danny’s suicide note doesn’t say he committed suicide explicitly. It apologized for “what [he] did”, and it also says not to worry, that he’d be welcomed into heaven’s gates. At that time, the Catholic Church had not yet changed their stance on suicide. Also very well possible he was writing cryptically to indicate he was forced to write that letter and was trying to tell his family he did not commit suicide but was sorry he ever got involved in the whole thing.
Great interview.
Nick Bryant interviewed this creative duo as well. Worth a listen.
I think it’s funny how all of these podcasts pass around guests like they’re whores.
This is a gold mine of information, well done to both interviewer and interviewees. I imagine it is very hard to follow without having seen the series, but that must be difficult to avoid, given the subject matter
9❤
my go to podcast,love it,i really enjoy your guests and content keep up the good work bro
This and Rogan are the ones I go to when none of the ones I like have any new episodes 😂
So crazy Danny straight up every interview you’re doing is getting actually better and better every time
Once I heard the shrimp and silencer story about 52 mins in, I was like I have to watch this.
Cool sweatshirt and love hearing your perspective on everything that is happening in your life. 🙂🧡
That’s what they do these days, they say murders were suicide
Danny J. Making Monday’s better.
We are so serious, seriously
Another great show
Awesome Interview Danny 💯 The Octopus Murders is such a deep & interesting story I hope to check out there Netflix show keep up the amazing content 🤘
Always love a good koncrete podcast to blast on my radio at work! 🤣
...um, where do you work? 🙂
Are u a real hipster bro?
Sooo, your coworkers hate you?
Absolutely love these types of interviews keep it up Danny you the man
Excellent job having these guys on...can't wait to see the Netflix documentary.
Twice now I opened this , thought I’d try again , but I can’t do it .
Honestly I cannot believe no one has brought up the similarities between Bill Benny when he was working at NSA and the guy who made the promise software it's like the exact same thing I mean not exactly because Bill Benny was a government employee but still they made his life hell because he wanted to make his software follow like the law you can't just spy on anyone you want who is a United States citizen for any reason u want & Bill Benny was a very distinguished NSA employee the guy is a freaking genius and they railroaded him the same way. They turned down his project because it came in too far under budget if I remember correctly they said what can you do with a few billion dollars well I think we can do it for a couple hundred million yeah but what can you do for a few billion dollars we don't need a few billion Bill Bernie was one of a handful of good people who worked at NSA we gotta get rid of that guy and investigate him knock down his door and bastards in a wheelchair he is dangerous.
Don’t believe Bill Binney offed himself!
Totally caught me off guard when he said Kentucky. That's where I'm from.
Me too, I wanted to go to WKU but ended up at UofL, didn't graduate lulz.
The Bluegrass Conspiracy ties in as well...
The NYC techies assimilated him.
@@Saerwen_Celeste yea I live in Louisville 🙄 lol
Watching this podcast made me want to go watch the documentary; after I was done with that, I came back and finished the pod. Good stuff -
Personal story - IDK why but watching this documentary actually gave me nightmares. Weird I watch all kinds of crazy stuff and never had that happen before.
Danny, those DEC 11/780 computers ran VMS operating system. I used them in Uni in 1984. And ran big Vax cluster installations of multiple Vax 8800 mainframes. None of these ran PROMIS. They were used by commercial and scientific organizations.
Wackenhut. From South Florida?
Explains why Fla has the most Private Prisons 🤔
Wackenhut is a deep hole. G4S. Mateen ( Pulse Shooter ).
@@BobRosselli G4S also do the security for our prisons & courts here in the UK
So thats how 305s are so cheap 😂
The Gen Z lone gunmen
Iykyk
The funniest shit ever is when he goes... "those assasins go to much bigger targets than us... uhh right?!?!" Bahahaa 😂 oh man that had me rotfl
I am SO excited about this. It was such a good documentary. I couldn’t start watching it.
20:14 these guys are giving me bad vibes BYE
You think these guys are being paid to cover for the "shadow government" 😕 could absolutely be 100%.
Its called the Je....*gets assassinated*
exactly
*Cough cough* 9.11.01
@@ImGairBair "pull it"
...suits.....
the....Jesuits.....*cough*
😂😂😂😂
Eeeegghh… [Squints]
Best podcast Danny! L9ve the show!
Best sound ever tooo
Great show.. my head is still spinning..🤔
thank god its not another ancient aliens one
😂😂 wym? This is where I come to hear all of the ridiculous conspiracy theories lmao
Sean Ryan’s even worse
HAVE WHITNEY WEBB ON!
Why Whitney Webb? What does she do??
She copies cats' other people stories. People didnt give people the rights to their work she didnt do any work on capturing Epstein or anyone else these grifters need a new idea for book they should start a biography.
Same thoughts 😃
@@dakotagleco2802 she goes into all of this plus way more. Plus, she is written a book that is amazing.
The documentary is crazy
Gambling was not the first time native Americans were financially independent. A native American tribe were the richest people on earth from extracting oil until that was also stolen from them.
Dude looks like Jeff dahlmer
He looks like Danny
My uncle Billy Capshaw was in the military with Jeffrey Dahmer Google him
'Like" "Ummmm" "Yaknow?" "Right?" ....I had to shut it off after 20 mins. I can't take it.
not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but you know, i'm a big fan of the rebranding. Simple, clean, and no more scary screamo intro ahahahaha!
John Tower and John Heinz were allegedly on the October suprise bribe plane. They both died in plane crashes on consecutive days in 1991.
I love this podcast but this one makes no fucking sense lol, like genuinely at all
After listening to his whole conversation I only have one thing to say, “huh?”
This looks so bad ass…..just started listening….checking it out now
the world needs more people like this
yuh
Omlette du Fromagé!
This was absolutely amazing. Every single plot needs its own podcast. I didn't know half the shit now I want to know all. Great chemistry nerds 🤓 jk a lot of passion. You can tell. Great episode. Bring them back!
1:27:15 I watched till here got home and watched on Netflix I loved it! it def needed the 8 ep. 1000% I’d pay to watch the next 4 but back for more nuggets
These guys seemingly have a lot to say, but I have no idea who they are, what they are trying to explain, where their story comes from, or who they are even talking about. I watched from the very beginning but felt the entire time that I had missed out on the 5w’s and H. Totally confusing, and it is a shame because I would like to have found any form of coherence from these guys who seem otherwise interesting
Same here, 20 min in and no clue what we’re talking about
their talking about the documentary on netflix
Same here I watched for 10 minutes then went and watched the documentary. Now I'm back
Google is for you guys...ffs
it doesnt help that neither one can speak clearly there obviously nervous drove me nuts cause want to kno the story
Im almost all the way done with this pod and still have no clue what the hell is going on. My ADD isnt as strong to keep up information splatter
Incredible doco guys. I usually can keep up well with reasoning within the episode or hour of whatever I’m watching, but this one had me scratchin ma head for ages still am. Proper shocking stuff yet not surprising as it to an extent confirms a lot of assumptions of what the intelligence acronym fellas carry out.
Nothing is ever as it seems, ever. 🤓
I’m glad I came here after watching the docuseries 😂 this was a great listen
Thanks, Danny. FJB.
If you can't make a simple online statement without having a meltdown about politics, you need to get serious help or a get a hobby.
@@QueefMcGeesHouseyou are, and you constantly cry here about rogan... baby
@@QueefMcGeesHouse you are lost and defending Joe, kettle meet pot.
@@dertythegrower Oh ok............
Baby
That was a hard watch/listen. These dudes were jumping from thing to thing like crazy and they knew it too. Giving stupid replies to Danny’s questions, seemingly big noting themselves about nothing, fumbling their responses to questions immediately into the interview. The “oh I have a funny anecdote about submarines” then proceeds to go on about some submariner at some wedding that had absolutely nothing to do with the main plot story? NOT putting the dude with the medals on the coffin in the doco? I’m certainly not watching whatever garbage they’ve produced. Who’s vetting these guests? Lmfaooo
Finally your doing Podcasts that means something wow, instead of shitting on people and believing bullshit
I'm not sure about "terrible" but these two guys are well-articulated, have great podcasting cadence and have a great order to things. I'd throw in some context bits and bobs throughout the video for those who haven't seen any of their content like myself. Certainly a baseline Danny Jones episode, which is good! Good vibes
Chris and Zach getting on Danny's podcast before Joe Rogan shows how bad JRE has gotten over the last 4 years. Great job Danny!
Different doesn’t = bad
has gotten?
he made millions.. you are lost buddy
@@lanceludwig5349look at the dudes name.. kind of explains where his mind is
these guys probably don't want to hear Grandpa Joe complain about covid or trans kids lmao
noticing the last replies tab you have.. obsessed with Joe Rogan eh? And they have had the same guests on here.. many dozen of times, so youre lost like i said heh.
Aww fk yeah. Love ya podcasts lad. Oge.
I feel like danny jones turned the documentary off before it finished 😂
Danny… you have to do better. I’ve listened for two hours and have no clue what’s going on. Sounds like it could be an interesting story, but still absolutely clueless as to what’s happening, who’s who, where’s what, etc. I know it’s a complicacted story, but you HAVE to do a better job navigating the listener and directing the guest. Come on man, be better! At least they’ll probably end up on Julian Dorey’s podcast, so hopefully we’ll actually be able to figure out what happened.
Terrible episode
Or you could just watch the documentary.
lol 😂😂😂😂😂
They all over the place hard to keep up,I'm familiar with the story of the Octopus ,Inslaw corp,Promi program,the program allow the user backdoor access to any computer on the planet.This is why Bill Hamilton was bankrupt, the program can track any person on the planet .The Netflix documentary is intriguing
@@Memphis901Production Yeah, but I shouldn’t HAVE to watch the documentary. There’s plenty of podcasts that do it right; Danny is just consistently bad at interviewing and moderating. If that was the case, he should’ve made a statement at the beginning of the podcast recommending to watch it before listening.
it's jews
Jesuits. Largest and first intelligence agency in the world.
Fascinating