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  • “I have no idea, I’m just the messenger.”
    Season 7 Episode 20: The Last Hurrah
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Komentáře • 112

  • @bettygorman4545
    @bettygorman4545 Před měsícem +210

    The expression on Helen‘s face when CJ says, “Which ones do you want to fire?” is priceless!

    • @louisehine1
      @louisehine1 Před měsícem +9

      I always liked that. She finally realised that she couldn’t run the entire house herself and that she’d be making people unemployed

    • @buckflessner3023
      @buckflessner3023 Před měsícem +1

      I know it is a TV show and I am sure you need a big White House staff.... but that is so government. We can do this job just as well with half the staff. Oh no! We can't let anybody go.

    • @kanderson-oo7us
      @kanderson-oo7us Před měsícem +22

      ​@@buckflessner3023 And people who have no idea what the work entails thinking they can cut half the staff is how uninformed people *think* they can change government.

    • @SomeRandomPerson
      @SomeRandomPerson Před měsícem +9

      The Whitehouse staff don't just wait on the president and first family hand and foot.
      They also run all the official functions and myriad other things that they need for a functioning Whitehouse.
      Also, it's not like the first family gets this stuff for free... They pay for all the meals and service.
      So yeah, you could run it on half the staff... If you also tell the various Official Visitors to make sure they remember to pack a sandwich for the next visit.

    • @dirdib69
      @dirdib69 Před měsícem +2

      CJ is having a bit of fun there, too. She knows what it looks like when someone is just overwhelmed by it all.

  • @AnntheTheatreFan
    @AnntheTheatreFan Před měsícem +91

    It's like when Matthew Crowley arrived at Downton Abbey. 😂

  • @pigs18
    @pigs18 Před měsícem +56

    The actual White House chief sends a questionnaire packet to the incoming First Family because the experience is so overwhelming. The amazing part is how they do the transition on Innaugration Day, basically prearranging trailer trucks by room. So they start with, say, the main bathroom, taking out all the outgoing linens and supplies like shampoos and then the new bathroom stuff comes off the new trailer where it's all stocked in the rear with the correct towels and brand of toothpaste and type of shampoo (all from the questionairre) while the moving crew starts filling the outbound trailer from the next room. And it continues until all the rooms are done.

    • @kaitlynrowena5463
      @kaitlynrowena5463 Před měsícem

      How do you know?

    • @pigs18
      @pigs18 Před měsícem

      @@kaitlynrowena5463 I watch a lot of documentaries.

    • @alexturner8104
      @alexturner8104 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@kaitlynrowena5463What he said is mostly correct. Things like the nuclear launch codes are sent to you by mail disguised as an advertisement from Publishers Clearing House. How do I know? I served 4 terms as your President .

    • @CindersVale
      @CindersVale Před měsícem

      @@kaitlynrowena5463 There is an autobiography called 'My Thirty Years Backstairs At The White House' by Lillian Rogers Parks. She and her mother worked as maids and seamstress for many presidents and their families. Her book was later adapted into a novel, 'Backstairs At The White House,' and was made in 1979 into an NBC mini-series. I don't remember for which transition, but I seem to remember a scene that showed all the White House servants charging into action to get everything changed in time. You can watch the episodes here on CZcams.

    • @patrickgomes2213
      @patrickgomes2213 Před 27 dny +1

      Something very similar happens to Number 10 when one prime minister leaves and another comes in. I haven't read anything about how other countries with official residences manage it, but I imagine approximations of the same transition takes place.

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 Před měsícem +94

    25k for tuition - those were the days. Sidwell (where the Obama kids went) has a tuition above 50k now.

    • @cboy0394
      @cboy0394 Před měsícem +2

      Still expensive back in 2005 (when this episode came out). 25k =40k today accounting for inflation.

    • @gene8172
      @gene8172 Před 6 dny +1

      If you have to ask, you can't afford it!

    • @Danny-ks1pb
      @Danny-ks1pb Před 20 hodinami

      Where did Baron go?...heard that was very expensive.

  • @Beachdudeca
    @Beachdudeca Před měsícem +22

    It’s similar to when the Heir shows up in Downton Abbey and wants a simple life without grasping its putting people out of work

  • @TSKseattle
    @TSKseattle Před měsícem +22

    That phone call at the end is a great example of how in tv or movies no one ever says goodbye, they just hang up.

    • @purpurina5663
      @purpurina5663 Před měsícem +1

      I once read they do t write it in because they feel it interrupts the flow. Plus takes precious seconds of production.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Před 12 dny

      Not in modern shows/films...

  • @GBTCO2b
    @GBTCO2b Před měsícem +17

    Curtis is actually Chief scene stealer.

  • @cz2165
    @cz2165 Před 19 dny +3

    Teri Polo is a wonderful actor who should have gotten many more roles that’s she has. She did an episode of SVU in the past which was heart-wrenching. And she can do comedy well. And of course she is beautiful of top of her great talent.

  • @dec9164
    @dec9164 Před měsícem +25

    Helen Santos' hesitation when walking in

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 Před měsícem +27

    Its funny, when this season first aired I was a bit sniffy, didn't care about the Santos family. Now I wish the show had continued with a new first family and West Wing staff.

    • @apok1980
      @apok1980 Před měsícem +2

      Me too. I bet they considered a spinoff, but the show was on too long I guess. I sometimes wonder, but doubt this show would work anymore. Everybody is too cynical and factionalism overtakes doing the right thing. I imagine the show would get canceled for all its fake ideology 😢

    • @michaelhayden725
      @michaelhayden725 Před 25 dny

      What I wanted was for Josh and Donna to marry just after the mid-term elections. Donna will have converted to Jewdaism and thus it could have been a traditional outdoor Jewish wedding.

  • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
    @maxmustermann-zx9yq Před měsícem +23

    see the female cook on his left, probably just some extra, but the pose plus the smug expression mad me laugh

  • @ScootsFromNewCastle
    @ScootsFromNewCastle Před měsícem +33

    I don’t think people realize how the White House is basically a 5-star hotel

    • @jameswilliams3581
      @jameswilliams3581 Před měsícem +1

      That’s a great analogy for it. 👍

    • @MichaelTavares
      @MichaelTavares Před měsícem

      It’s a palace

    • @yhmlco
      @yhmlco Před měsícem +2

      @@MichaelTavares It's a residence and an office and hotel for foreign guests and restaurant for state dinners and a reception hall for formal events... not to mention that it's a high-security gilded cage.

  • @mc76
    @mc76 Před 21 dnem +2

    In his book Against All Enemies, Richard Clarke talks about the look on the President-elect's face when he leaves his first intelligence briefing--like he has been hit in the head with a two-by-four. I suspect that it is not that much different from the look on the First Lady's face when she meets the White House staff.

  • @avolto4822
    @avolto4822 Před 25 dny +1

    CJ didn't have to do her dirty like that lmao

  • @claudine1928
    @claudine1928 Před měsícem +30

    I do think you need a lot of staff in a place like the White House. Also, Mrs Santos State Dinnners, travel outside the country for the First Family, and so on. And ofcourse just the daily upkeep...
    Also Mrs.Santos seems to be the strong woman behind the man almost in charge...

    • @mistybethune9116
      @mistybethune9116 Před měsícem +8

      i think mrs santos just didnt realize how much staff she needed or maybe didnt at the time realize how busy she would be prob assumed she was going to still have time to do her own cleaning, cooking, laundry etc.

    • @untexan
      @untexan Před měsícem +4

      Also the staff serves all the people who work at the White House. It’s more like running a corporate headquarters or a resort hotel. Helen didn’t understand that part.

    • @mistybethune9116
      @mistybethune9116 Před měsícem +4

      @@untexan i get the feeling helen would still do alot stuff than normal first lady would for her family. You see it often the president's family has a kitchen in the residence. she prob cooked herself when she had time. sometimes i wish theyd carried on the show through least some of santos presidency been interesting

  • @Netty7787
    @Netty7787 Před měsícem +26

    CJ is one Bad Ass Chick

    • @RR-pz3bl
      @RR-pz3bl Před měsícem

      CJ, doing ‘The Jackal’: some of the best American television ever made.

  • @Serai3
    @Serai3 Před měsícem +16

    It's hard for me to believe that anyone moving into the White House wouldn't spend even five minutes researching what's involved in living there.

    • @pigs18
      @pigs18 Před měsícem +5

      It's dramatized. But she would have already sat down with Abby and got the details.

    • @Serai3
      @Serai3 Před měsícem

      @@pigs18 Of course it's dramatized. It's fiction. That's the point. It's' BAD fiction. Drama based on something that would never happen in real life is self-indulgent.

  • @fireball0762
    @fireball0762 Před 15 hodinami

    i am sad they didn't try a spinoff with the new president

  • @jkornfeld
    @jkornfeld Před měsícem +7

    I don’t like how naive she was

    • @Dream0Asylum
      @Dream0Asylum Před měsícem +2

      I don't think it's all naivete - but she did probably have some fantasy where if she just dug in and insisted hard enough that their lives wouldn't have to change that much. First days often have a great power of disillusioning people of their fantasies.

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 Před 24 dny

    It’s Rebecca Wells. Did Dan Rydell become president?

  • @blue387
    @blue387 Před měsícem +3

    One thing I've noticed is the green foliage in the background, would there be a lot of green foliage in the winter in Washington DC?

    • @Reinamour
      @Reinamour Před měsícem +4

      The answer is “it depends.” Generally, the trees lose all their leaves, but I have photos from different January snows that show bushes with leaves and some trees with leaves.

    • @scotthartman8993
      @scotthartman8993 Před měsícem +2

      Actually yes.. THey don;t get a lot of snow and the Hedges and such useually were green all year at Ft Belvior when I was there.. just 12-15 miles south of the WHite House

  • @mistybethune9116
    @mistybethune9116 Před měsícem +10

    it seems unsouthern like for Mrs santos to have an issue with being called by mrs santos or being called ma'am even in todays world in the south this is very much a thing and would have been in the time of this show. i remember my academic advisor that i used to have had to get used to me calling her ma'am but than shes from England. My current advisor is also southern but shes also same age as me so calling her ma'am kinda funny

    • @robertredmon5409
      @robertredmon5409 Před měsícem +2

      Yep I've lived all of my life in the south And one thing was made very clear from a very early age . As a child when you are addressing an adult it is always yes ma'am and yes sir. Even now at 49 i address anyone i do not know as ma'am or sir. When I've traveled for work it always seems to catch people off guard. The reactions i got in California were downright hilarious.

    • @JWRogersPS
      @JWRogersPS Před měsícem +5

      If I recall correctly, while Matt Santos was from Texas, Helen was not originally.

    • @mistybethune9116
      @mistybethune9116 Před měsícem

      @@robertredmon5409 yes funny thing about my advisors they act work on the same advising team (the majors are very similar i pretty much swithced ot my concentration as my major about 6 months ago now). my old advisor would told my new one this the only person who regular call her ma'am lol. but than that advisor was old enough to be my mom and my new advisor and me are the saem age. We act live only a few hours from each other too

    • @mistybethune9116
      @mistybethune9116 Před měsícem +1

      @@JWRogersPS that makes sense than

  • @hazeleyees
    @hazeleyees Před měsícem +4

    My only beef was they threw Amy back in there 🤢

  • @kmbarnett1200
    @kmbarnett1200 Před měsícem +1

    The White House staff are there for decades. The blithe dismissal of highly trained and vetted professionals, made me dislike her more

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild Před 22 dny

      You lack intelligence. Obviously, she wasn't dismissing them. She was just so overwhelmed by so many people working at her behest, given her humble background.

  • @Wolf6119
    @Wolf6119 Před 12 dny

    Strictly speaking I believe she would be the First Lady-*Designate* rather than Elect, right? Since she's not actually elected to any office - insofar as the "office" of First Lady/Gentleman even formally exists at all, the holder is "appointed" to it by virtue of marriage to the President, rather than elected to it by any concrete mechanism.

  • @edscott2433
    @edscott2433 Před měsícem +18

    No chance the Chief of Staff shows the new First Lady around.

    • @kingseleyjameskanditkor7058
      @kingseleyjameskanditkor7058 Před měsícem +15

      It’s not that crazy

    • @peace-or2cp
      @peace-or2cp Před měsícem +10

      Agreed. COS is one of the highest-level political positions in the government. More likely, it would be Abby's COS, and Donna would likely be there.

    • @kingseleyjameskanditkor7058
      @kingseleyjameskanditkor7058 Před měsícem +5

      @@peace-or2cp Donna left the White House to join the campaign.

    • @lancer525
      @lancer525 Před měsícem +6

      It is perfectly acceptable, and do-able, if it's in the script that way.
      Don't you know how TV works?

    • @sfan2767
      @sfan2767 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@kingseleyjameskanditkor7058 They mean as Helen Santos's chief of staff.

  • @edl617
    @edl617 Před 9 dny

    Janney always pro trays a BBBBBBBB. Her hair style is always the same. From now on a beehive

  • @11nitrox
    @11nitrox Před měsícem +3

    At 0.44 Margaret comes into CJ's office to advise her that Helen Santos is in the outer office. To do so she opens the door and closes it behind her before speaking to CJ. Hearing this, Amy excuses herself and between 0.59 and 1.02 you see a shot from her POV as she makes her excuse to CJ for dodging Helen Santos. You see the closed door Margaret was stood next to, in shot eight seconds earlier, but no evidence of Margaret. Amy then exits through the opposite door, opening it and closing it behind her. CJ then turns and opens her door to the outer office and Margaret is stood there with Helen Santos. Every time a door opens and closes in this scene you hear it. Except Margaret somehow slips silently from CJ's office back into the outer office, clearly having to have re-opened the door she just came through and then closed it again, completely silently. I know assistants at that level have to be discreet but unless Margaret can teleport herself, continuity didn't pick up that she just 'vanishes'. 🙂

  • @bobcat081754
    @bobcat081754 Před 17 dny +1

    Helen Santos was too high-strung. Not the fault of the actress. I think the script was written to make her unlikable.

  • @BrianCarter-ph4cw
    @BrianCarter-ph4cw Před měsícem +2

    Secretary of state becomes president when?

    • @jbrhel
      @jbrhel Před měsícem +11

      1. VP 2. House Speaker 3.President pro tempore of the Senate. 4. Secretary of State.

    • @EtoileLion
      @EtoileLion Před měsícem +6

      The Secretary of State is 4th in line behind the VP, Speaker of the House, and President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
      Vinnicks got a lot of people to advise before doing the job himself.

    • @BrianCarter-ph4cw
      @BrianCarter-ph4cw Před měsícem

      @@jbrhel close but incorrect

    • @BrianCarter-ph4cw
      @BrianCarter-ph4cw Před měsícem

      Window closes in 23 hours

    • @MatthewKearney69
      @MatthewKearney69 Před měsícem +1

      @@jbrhelso true. We remember Air Force one movie . Is it vp or sec of defense??… plus in 24 day 4 when president keeler shot down in Air Force one and vp Logan wasn’t confident. Supposed to be speaker of the house yet they bring in David Palmer. Great scene in 24 w speaker talking to Mike Novek about David Palmer 😪

  • @deannestock2651
    @deannestock2651 Před měsícem

    L

  • @survivor648
    @survivor648 Před měsícem +2

    I don’t like Terry Polo in this role. I hate how she swings her arms when she walks. She plays a better cop in The Fosters.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Před 12 dny

      How she swings her arms? I mean, maybe she just walks this way in general...

    • @billybuttons4298
      @billybuttons4298 Před 3 dny

      I like her boobies from the issue of Playboy that she posed for.

  • @manlydaily123
    @manlydaily123 Před měsícem +1

    I love how the west wing presented the democrats as wise and competent, If only this was true, very sad 😮‍💨

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild Před 22 dny +3

      They're definitely more competent than Trump that's for sure 😂😂

  • @dauferm
    @dauferm Před měsícem +3

    Our taxes used to give them the lives of royalty.

    • @prodge58
      @prodge58 Před měsícem

      It's a big, old place from the 1800's filled with all of the secrets and pressures and stresses of running the largest economy, military, and coalition of forces the world has ever seen. I think we can afford some fucking cakes, you nimrod.

    • @JWRogersPS
      @JWRogersPS Před měsícem +12

      Hardly. Most of the staff are there to take care of the building and its contents, and to cook and serve at official functions. The two Valets are the only real servants that just serve the first family. Despite the name, they are basically personal assistants, and perform a multitude of jobs that the President and First Lady can't do due to time and security issues. Any other service staff, such as a nanny or other personal servant, have to be hired and paid by the FF directly.