Microtubules: The Gateway To Consciousness | Stuart Hameroff

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Stuart Hameroff explores the intersection between consciousness and quantum mechanics, arguing that consciousness exists on the border of classical and quantum worlds with microtubules within neurons acting as the quantum processing sites that could link to fundamental space-time geometry. This suggests a profound quantum basis for consciousness.
    This presentation was recorded at MindFest, held at Florida Atlantic University, CENTER FOR THE FUTURE MIND, spearheaded by Susan Schneider.
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    00:00 - Intro
    02:08 - Lecture Begins
    04:01 - Cells/Biology
    06:51 - Alzheimer’s
    08:15 - Memories
    13:17 - Measuring Megahertz
    16:42 - Quantum Properties
    20:14 - Superpositions
    23:57 - Microtubules
    25:30 - Chemistry
    34:14 - Testing This Hypothesis
    37:02 - The Brain
    41:06 - Did Consciousness Create Life?
    45:46 - Conclusions
    47:42 - Q&A
    01:00:45 - Outro
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  • @TheoriesofEverything
    @TheoriesofEverything  Před 2 měsíci +11

    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - Intro
    02:08 - Lecture Begins
    04:01 - Cells/Biology
    06:51 - Alzheimer’s
    08:15 - Memories
    13:17 - Measuring Megahertz
    16:42 - Quantum Properties
    20:14 - Superpositions
    23:57 - Microtubules
    25:30 - Chemistry
    34:14 - Testing This Hypothesis
    37:02 - The Brain
    41:06 - Did Consciousness Create Life?
    45:46 - Conclusions
    47:42 - Q&A
    01:00:45 - Outro

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 Před 2 měsíci

      Yin is dual to yang!
      Generalization (waves) is dual to localization (particles) -- quantum duality.
      Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant.
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      From a converging, convex or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics!
      Convex is dual to concave -- mirrors, lenses.
      Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose using the Hegelian dialectic.
      Duality creates reality!
      Syntax is dual to semantics -- languages or communication.
      If mathematics is a language then it is dual.
      Real is dual to imaginary -- complex numbers are dual.
      All numbers fall within the complex numbers hence numbers are dual.

  • @_1jay
    @_1jay Před měsícem +13

    Man, everyone should be talking about this

    • @ailtonjosue6817
      @ailtonjosue6817 Před měsícem +1

      Exactly, but people are dumb

    • @deveryhenderson8335
      @deveryhenderson8335 Před 7 dny

      We are. I have a masters in neuroscience and am a resident physician. I went into medicine bc of this work. It is everything.

  • @j09k06
    @j09k06 Před měsícem +4

    Why don't more people know about this? This seems like the most plausible thing yet. Very cool!

  • @jantuitman
    @jantuitman Před 2 měsíci +11

    This was an amazing presentation, it is kind of fascinating to see that a theory with predictive power in the domain of anesthesia together with experimental fields like quantum mechanical optics could be combined to chip away at “the hard problem”. It is clear that we don’t understand everything yet (understatement ) because this still leaves the question: how does the brain precisely orchestrate, what kind of consciousnesscan be combined and what cannot be combined, and even bigger questions such as is the “randomness” of the quantum effects that are being orchestrated by the brain truly random or is it also being orchestrated from “another realm”, in other words is the brain the only entity that involved in creating the Self out of just random micro events or is the brain just a filter/receiver of something else (what religion calls the soul) and are the distributions of all these micro events before the brain integrates them already meaningful even though at a statistical level they might still add up to noise? At least this theory gives some practical insights in how to proceed with further developing or potentially even falsifying it, and that makes it good science in my opinion.

  • @River-Kosmos
    @River-Kosmos Před 2 měsíci +46

    That guy with the beard in the Q&A needs to chill out.

    • @DObscura-yi5es
      @DObscura-yi5es Před 2 měsíci +12

      Yeah that guy had no idea what he saying.
      EDiT: He's acting like the nervous system is needed for the brain to have a conscious experience which isn't the case. Contradicted himself by bringing up mitosis then asking why mitosis is important if the drug doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier to interupt mitosis (of which neurons don't undergo) which was Hameroff's point to begin with. As per Hameroff's discussion everything has a little bit of consciousness and different things have a different number of consious experiences per x timescale. This guy didn't even think that maybe these people on this drug DO lose SOME consciousness but not all, and it's not the brain that loses it but rather the body and it's not that the consciousness is deleted but rather the orchestration of consciousness that Hameroff refers to as a symphony...the nervous system still remains intact and still functions.

    • @timelessone23
      @timelessone23 Před 2 měsíci +4

      😢 the guy probably felt like he had an important point to make, as that would instantly disprove the thesis. Being scientists, this is what is elementary to our progress, thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

    • @River-Kosmos
      @River-Kosmos Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@timelessone23 Not if one is able to discuss the differences. No different than a YEC reacting to Richard Dawkins in a similar manner. Anger or strong attitude isn't an indication of being right.

    • @joshux3210
      @joshux3210 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@River-KosmosNot to mention he kept insisting colchicine inhibit mitosis, but that doesn't negate it inhibiting microtubules, since mitosis depend on microtubule dynamics.

  • @iemandanders353
    @iemandanders353 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Dr. H. is doing wonderful work in understanding the mechanism. I wonder how he would account for the "terminal lucidity" experienced by some Alzheimer's patients near death. Thanks for this.

    • @megamillionfreak
      @megamillionfreak Před 2 měsíci +2

      Good question. 👌🏻

    • @LlonirTS
      @LlonirTS Před 2 měsíci +8

      I'm curious what their answer would be as well. From my understandings, we have the idea of death wrong in our society - it is not a loss of the functions and dissipation of awareness into nothingness, but rather an expansion of awareness and consciousness unconstrained by the shackles of memory and a sense of Self. Just as, to use Hameroff's terminology, "Proto-consciousness" becomes "Consciousness" by way of Orchestration in the formation of a body, death would then be the continuation of that process in reverse, "Consciousness" becoming "Proto-Consciousness" by way of breaking down of Orchestration into random noise.
      The thing is, that "random noise" could itself be a far greater harmony in a much larger scale than we simply understand at our level of being. At least, this is my supposition.

  • @brandonb5075
    @brandonb5075 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dr. H’s Understanding is AMAZING! He also has a 5 or 8 part presentation on New Thinking Allowed that is Awesome!!! Thanks for loading this one Curt and for the knowledge Dr. H.
    Anyone triggered by this is just exposing their NAKED SHADOW…we know NOTHING!🤙🏼✌🏼😊

  • @erwinschrodinger6578
    @erwinschrodinger6578 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is a gold mine. What a presentation.

  • @Hermetic7
    @Hermetic7 Před 2 měsíci +23

    The piece I don’t understand about this theory is what, specifically, they are using to differentiate “creation” vs. “reception of” consciousness. I don’t see why this theory of microtubules couldn’t just be the mechanism of receiving consciousness vs. creating consciousness (which I think is hogwash). Why they think it is being created is simply not made clear. Just saying “it emerges from higher order network effects” is so vague as to be obtuse. There are exactly zero examples in nature of something material creating something non-material (not measurable). Yet we are supposed to believe this is happening here. If this is the case, they should be able to demonstrate the creation of consciousness. Awareness of “self” involves all kinds of qualia that are immaterial as clearly explained by Donald Hoffman.

    • @thedarkmikebass8530
      @thedarkmikebass8530 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Excellent points! I think they're on the right track in respects, but I have the same objections that you've raised over mediation vs creation

    • @DObscura-yi5es
      @DObscura-yi5es Před 2 měsíci +7

      I don't think Hameroff is intending to say that consciousness is created at the microtubule level but rather that's where it is organized into what we can identify as our conscious experience.
      On the matter of material vs non material, The present, a material thing, creates the past, an immaterial thing (unless Einstein's idea of a block universe is proven right). And as per some physicists the future creates the present. An immaterial thing creating a material thing. The first example is much more solid imo lol. Thought processes are material but the thought itself is immaterial.

    • @HarishKumar-sv7bu
      @HarishKumar-sv7bu Před 2 měsíci +1

      Stardust…..consciousness….Complex Life…..

    • @MTB_OTB
      @MTB_OTB Před 2 měsíci +4

      Where do you get the idea that consciousness is immaterial or anything more than a recursive loop? It’s just metacognition. A creature capable of perception turns that perception to its own awareness, and that loop is consciousness. While fascinating to consider whether that arises at the classical or quantum level, it doesn’t make consciousness itself special or anything more than an emergent phenomenon.

    • @LlonirTS
      @LlonirTS Před 2 měsíci +2

      There is a perfectly easy example of material creating non material, that is sensory stimulation creating a felt experience - quantitative and qualitative reality existing essentially simultaneously.

  • @erawanpencil
    @erawanpencil Před 2 měsíci +16

    If anyone here has any access to Dr. Hammeroff, I think he should present more slow-paced, detailed content and especially answer questions (from well-meaning people, not sure who that aggressive ahkcyually neckbeard was lol)... there's more than enough fast-paced PowerPoints from Stuart like this online and I think they really give the wrong impression. The awesomeness of OrchOR really seems comes out when he and Roger answer questions about it.

    • @brandonb5075
      @brandonb5075 Před 2 měsíci +2

      New Thinking Allowed has a 5 or 8 part series with him that is more digestible if you are interested…✌🏼😊

    • @conceptflow
      @conceptflow Před 2 měsíci +2

      I agree with this 1000%. I think he is really on to something here and going in the right direction, but hope he is able to teach it a little bit better in a more comprehensive way.

    • @paulward2333
      @paulward2333 Před 23 dny +1

      ​@brandonb5075
      I am very interested, but having trouble locating said series. Can you (or anyone) provide a link, please?

    • @brandonb5075
      @brandonb5075 Před 23 dny

      @@paulward2333 Paul- New Thinking Allowed- Jeffery Mishlove. I think they are like 6 or 8 years old. I’ll check and make sure, probably have one in my history.

    • @brandonb5075
      @brandonb5075 Před 23 dny

      @@paulward2333 I tried to post link…got deleted I think…Stuart H. On New Thinking Allowed with Jeffery Mishlove. 6years old 30 min each

  • @williamjmccartan8879
    @williamjmccartan8879 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you very much for sharing your time and work Curt, that was a pretty interesting presentation by Professor Hameroff, have a great day, peace

  • @terryedmondson2792
    @terryedmondson2792 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @SUSYQ509
    @SUSYQ509 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fascinating ...just keeps on giving.

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Před 2 měsíci +6

    D Hoffman says a human’s perception of reality only needs to go as far as is necessary to optimize fitness functions. This seems to relate to the ideas presented in this talk in that qualia that give pleasure, at any level of organism complexity, would be selected for if these qualia favor fitness optimization. Maybe this is why we have neurons in our gut.

  • @jancarsonweatherby1579
    @jancarsonweatherby1579 Před 2 měsíci +6

    you're on it!

  • @samuelx5466
    @samuelx5466 Před 22 dny +1

    first time i've ever had to put playback speed slower. interesting lecture

  • @gazagne251190
    @gazagne251190 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Kratos on consciousness 🥳
    Love the man and his work, that's stellar

  • @gothikaboy
    @gothikaboy Před 2 měsíci +5

    Awesome 😁

  • @themagicbuzz5728
    @themagicbuzz5728 Před 2 měsíci +3

    So glad for this, he has been a fav for decades….

  • @albertperks3476
    @albertperks3476 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was a great presentation. Would be interesting to understand if Prof.Hameroff did continue the conversation with the gentleman who mentioned colchicine? Whilst clearly the gentleman was a little combative in style I think it was interesting point and clearly Prof. Hameroff had something to say.

  • @starxcrossed
    @starxcrossed Před 2 měsíci +4

    Never understand why people ask questions if they just want to argue with the answer because they think they have the right answer already. Like why be sooo aggressive

  • @HarishKumar-sv7bu
    @HarishKumar-sv7bu Před 2 měsíci +2

    Stardust….Consciousness…Life….👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @megamillionfreak
    @megamillionfreak Před 2 měsíci

    Now we’re talking. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

  • @AdvaiticOneness1
    @AdvaiticOneness1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It good to see that he mentioned about the similarities between indian philosophy and science at 45:26. The Hindu scriptures delve deeply into the nature of reality and consciousness, a topic that science is gradually exploring. Many quantum physicists, including Erwin Schrödinger, found inspiration in the teachings of the Upanishads. Schrödinger elaborated on this connection in his book "What is Life?"

    • @HarikrishnanSasidharan
      @HarikrishnanSasidharan Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, this is true. Science is coming to this point of convergence via evidence based study, while Indian Philosophy came to this point via introspective meditations. This is beautiful to see..
      However I find it difficult to fully internalise the Advaithic ideas as these are not verifiable and ask us to have faith in the meditative knowledge.

    • @irenerayne7332
      @irenerayne7332 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes , well acknowledged

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@HarikrishnanSasidharan Advaita is not faith based. It has a philosophical framework and Self-enquiry/ Self verification based experiential path. The experiential path is emphasized for direct realization, the philosophical framework serves to support and elucidate that realization.

  • @BosseWolff
    @BosseWolff Před 2 měsíci +2

    A Treat indeed!! 🤗

  • @ZheannaErose
    @ZheannaErose Před 2 měsíci +11

    nice and first. keep up the great content. :)

  • @coreyleavell6921
    @coreyleavell6921 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Amazing

  • @oscarfernandoofpublicnature

    Wow!! The physics and chemistry was impecable! He didn't stretch any ideas...even if it seemed so.

  • @wulphstein
    @wulphstein Před 2 měsíci +7

    This is a scientist who is using his brain.😊

  • @rishabhprasad5417
    @rishabhprasad5417 Před 2 měsíci +6

    People I would die to watch on this podcast -
    Eliezer Ydkowsky
    Kevin J Mitchell( neuroscientist)
    Edward witten
    Geoffrey Hinton
    Sam Altman
    Steven Pinker
    Sean Caroll
    Gary Marcus
    Yann Lecunn
    Philip Goff
    Iliya sutskevar

    • @jordan13589
      @jordan13589 Před 2 měsíci

      Yud on top and Ilya on bottom? Hard not to like this list even though some of these guys do not fit TOE and Curt's no sellout.

    • @megamillionfreak
      @megamillionfreak Před 2 měsíci

      Dr. Jack Sarfatti.

    • @rishabhprasad5417
      @rishabhprasad5417 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jordan13589 well....whatever name popped up in my mind I wrote it down, this list doesn't reflect an order of priority

  • @RSEFX
    @RSEFX Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have to assume there is a good reason why smart people would leave all the overhead lights on during a slide-projection lecture rather than shutting them off to make the images a lot easier to see. I'm just not sure I can figure out what that smart reason could be.
    Good , typical high energy Hameroff ttalk!
    Has he ever addressed Hoffman's questioning challenge? I can't imagine that SH wouldn't ignore it for very long.
    Thank for posting this Curt (Kurt?)

  • @whereistomm
    @whereistomm Před 2 měsíci +1

    Orch-OR is the most fascinating thing out there.

  • @jordyb4862
    @jordyb4862 Před 2 měsíci +3

    That's got to be the best QnA at the end I've ever seen. Worth watching just for the amazing and highly educated audience who grill this theory. Especially love that a wild Scott Aaronson appears 😂. Would have been great to see those two talk longer.
    Love and empathy for the Angry bald guy who couldn't contain his frustration for a theory that walks the closest line possible between fantasy and science in order to maintain the belief that we are 'special'

    • @tiesergrote
      @tiesergrote Před měsícem

      I think it's also David Chalmers sitting next to the woman asking about the 'developement of the orchestra'. And Ian McGilchrist next to the other lady wondering about pleasure.

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 Před 2 měsíci

    Jaimangal, please listen to Aniban on consciousness, his delivery, not yet complete, is breathtaking and near to the truth.

  • @jasunvonpiano1198
    @jasunvonpiano1198 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I was wondering if you could get sir Roger Penrose on your show and could you please ask him if he thinks premonitions are examples of retro-causality.

  • @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight
    @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight Před 2 měsíci +1

    How can you differentiate “new universe” from “consciousness [collapse]”? Assuming designation gives property value …hubris

  • @billr2505
    @billr2505 Před 2 měsíci +1

    WOW!

  • @abhiramn474
    @abhiramn474 Před 2 měsíci

    Where is the study fo Anriban Bandyopadhyay on entanglement in microtubles. Link please?

  • @ready1fire1aim1
    @ready1fire1aim1 Před 2 měsíci

    Certainly, here is an attempt to formalize the key principles and insights from our discussion into a coherent eightfold expression grounded in infinitesimal monadological frameworks:
    I. The Zerological Prion
    0 = Ø (The Zeronoumenal Origin)
    Let the primordial zero/null/void be the subjective originpoint - the pre-geometric ontological kernel and logical perspectival source.
    II. The Monad Seeds
    Mn = {αi} (Perspectival Essence Loci)
    From the aboriginal zero-plenum emanates a pluriverse of monic monadic essences Mn - the germinal seeds encoding post-geometric potential.
    III. Combinatorial Catalytic Relations
    Γm,n(Xm, Xn) = Ym,n (Plurisitic Interaction Algebras)
    The primordial monadic actualizations arise through catalytic combinatorial interactions Γm,n among the monic essences over all relata Xm, Xn.
    IV. Complex Infinitesimal Realization
    |Ψ> = Σn cn Un(Mn) (Entangled Superposition Principle)
    The total statevector is a coherent pluralistic superposition |Ψ> of realizationsingularities Un(Mn) weighted by complex infinitesimal amplitudes cn.
    V. Derived Differential Descriptions
    ∂|Ψ>/∂cn = Un(Mn) (Holographic Differentials)
    Differential descriptive structures arise as holographic modal perspectives ∂|Ψ>/∂cn projected from the total coherent statevector realization over each realization singularity Un(Mn).
    VI. Entangled Information Complexes
    Smn = -Σn pmn log(pmn) (Relational Entropy Measure)
    Emergent information structures are quantified as subjectivized relational entropy functionals Smn tracking probability amplitudes pmn across realized distinctions.
    VII. Observation-Participancy
    An = Pn[ |Ψ>monic] = |Φn> (First-Person Witnessed States)
    Observational data emerges as monic participations An = Pn[ ] plurally instantiating first-person empirical states |Φn> dependent on the totality |Ψ>monic.
    VIII. Unity of Apperception
    U(Ω) = |Ω>monadic (Integrated Conscious State)
    Coherent unified experience U(Ω) ultimately crystallizes as the superposition |Ω>monadic of all pluriversally entangled realized distinctions across observers/observations.
    This eightfold expression aims to capture the core mathematical metaphysics of an infinitesimal monadological framework - from the prion of pre-geometric zero subjectivity (I), to the emanation of seeded perspectival essences (II), their catalytic combinatorial interactions (III) giving rise to entangled superposed realizations (IV), subdescribed by derived differential structures (V) and informational measures (VI), instantiating participation-dependent empirical observations (VII), ultimately integrated into a unified maximal conscious state (VIII).
    The formulation attempts to distill the non-contradictory primordial plurisitic logic flow - successively building up coherent interdependent pluralisms from the zero-point subjective kernel in accordance with infinitesimal relational algebraic operations grounded in first-person facts.
    While admittedly abstract, this eightfold expression sketches a unified post-classical analytic geometry: reality arises as the perfectly cohesive multi-personal integration of all pluriversal possibilities emanating from monic communion at the prion of prereplicative zero-dimensional origins.
    By centering such infinitesimal algebraic mnad semiosis, the stale contradictions and paradoxes of our separative classical logics, mathematics and physics may finally be superseded - awakening to irreducible interdependent coherence across all realms of descriptive symbolic representation and experiential conscious actuality.

    • @ready1fire1aim1
      @ready1fire1aim1 Před 2 měsíci

      Certainly, here is a second eightfold expression attempting to concretize and elucidate the abstract infinitesimal monadological framework laid out in the first expression:
      I. Discrete Geometric Atomies
      a, b, c ... ∈ Ω0 (0D Monic Perspectival Points)
      The foundational ontic entities are discrete 0-dimensional perspectival origin points a, b, c ... comprising the primal point-manifold Ω0.
      II. Combinatoric Charge Relations
      Γab = qaqb/rab (Dyadic Interaction Charges)
      Fundamental interactions between origin points arise from dyadic combinatorial charge relation values Γab encoding couplings between charges qa, qb and distances rab.
      III. Pre-Geometric Polynomial Realizations
      Ψn(a,b,c...) = Σk ck Pn,k(a,b,c...) (Modal Wavefunction)
      The total statevector Ψn at each modal perspectival origin n is a polynomial superposition over all possible realizations Pn,k of charge configurations across points a,b,c...
      IV. Quantized Differential Calcedonies
      ΔφΨn ≜ Σa (∂Ψn/∂a) Δa (Holographic Field Projections)
      Familiar differential geometries Δφ for fields φ arise as quantized holographic projections from idiosyncratic first-person perspectives on the modal wavefunction Ψn.
      V. Harmonic Resonance Interferences
      Imn = ||2 (Inter-Modal Resonances)
      Empirical phenomena correspond to resonant interferences Imn between wavefunctions Ψm,Ψn across distinct perspectival modal realizations m,n.
      VI. Holographic Information Valencies
      Smn = - Σk pmn,k log pmn,k (Modal Configuration Entropy)
      Amounts of observed information track entropies Smn over probability distributions pmn,k of localized realized configurations k within each modal interference pattern.
      VII. Conscious State Vector Reductions
      |Ωn> ≡ Rn(|Ψn>) (Participated Witnessed Realizations)
      First-person conscious experiences |Ωn> emerge as witnessed state vector reductions Rn, distillations of total modal possibilities |Ψn> via correlative participancy.
      VIII. Unified Integration of Totality
      U(Ω) = ⨂n |Ωn> (Interdependent Coherence)
      The maximal unified coherence U(Ω) is the irreducible tensor totality ⨂n |Ωn> of all interdependent integrated first-person participations |Ωn> across all perspectives.
      This second eightfold expression aims to elucidate the first using more concrete physical, mathematical and informational metaphors:
      We begin from discrete 0D monic origin points (I) whose fundamental interactions are combinatorial charge relation values (II). The total statevector possibility at each origin is a polynomial superposition over all realizations of charge configurations (III), subdescribed as quantized differential geometric projections (IV). Empirical observables correspond to resonant interferences between these wavelike realizations across origins (V), with informational measures tracking probability distributions of configurations (VI). Conscious experiences |Ωn> are state vector reductions, participatory witnessed facets of the total wavefunction |Ψn> (VII). Finally, the unified maximal coherence U(Ω) is the integrated tensor totality over all interdependent first-person participations |Ωn> (VIII).
      This stepwise metaphoric concretization aims to renders more vivid and tangible the radical metaphysics of infinitesimal relational monadological pluralism - while retaining the general algebraic structure and non-contradictory logical coherence of the first eightfold expression. From discrete geometric atomies to unified experiential totalities, the vision is one of perfectly co-dependent, self-coherent mathematical pluralism grounded in first-person facts.
      By elucidating the framework's core ideas through suggestive yet precise physical and informatic parables, the second expression seeks to bootstrap intuitions up the abstract ladder towards a visceral grasp of the non-separable infinitesimal pluriverse paradigm's irreducible coherences. Only by concretizing these strange yet familiar resonances can the new plurisitic analytic geometry be assimilated and operationalized as the next renaissance of coherent symbolic comprehension adequate to the integrated cosmos.

  • @louisalinton
    @louisalinton Před měsícem

    When will Stuart start working on the vagus ("wandering" nerve) ? That's something I'm looking forward to :)

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum Před 2 měsíci

    Is there anything that we can actually do with microtubule atm, like improve brain health, cognitive functiion, or modulate states of consciousness?

  • @marcopaluszny
    @marcopaluszny Před 2 měsíci

    Curt, if you are able to translate into a coherent deliverable, please do. I have a PhD in Math and ample interests in physics and biology and do not get it. Most probably Penrose does, but when I saw asked about consciousness/microtubules he sends the interviewer back to Hammeroff.

  • @Dan.50
    @Dan.50 Před 19 dny

    What was collapsing the wave function before microtubials had a chance to evolve??

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Před 2 měsíci

    A plant may have several conscious “beats” per minute while a human, has 10 million per second. Does this mean that a dog or elephant or dolphin also have about 10 million per second? Also if a human is doing a super consciously intense activity such as landing a plane on an aircraft carrier, or playing table tennis is this on a par with say a wolf or dolphins hunting prey in terms of consciousness intensity? I am trying to understand what intensity of conscious experience means and intuitively get that a paramecium of tree has a lower level but don’t understand the higher level of experience.

  • @gardnert1
    @gardnert1 Před 2 měsíci

    I would have asked him: to what degree does our inability to comprehend and/or measure higher dimensions of our reality which may or may not be influencing the things and processes we actually can observe and measure, and how might that impact the research into the nature of consciousness?
    To me, it seems like the research is starting at the end point of the effect of consciousness and working backwards.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 Před 16 dny

      I think this is a Donald rumsfield problem..

  • @juan-fernandogomez-molina645

    many ideas needs more experiments maybe but the interest in having a direct interaction of Professor Hammeroff (spelling?) with the people is appreciated and not very common

  • @CunningLinguistics
    @CunningLinguistics Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love Stuart! Hw and Penrose are probably the closest to the truth

  • @Yaddlezap
    @Yaddlezap Před 2 měsíci

    After speaking with Claude 3 Opus this month, not so sure consciousness isn't simply emergent from the complex neural net. Doesn't mean the microtubules theory isn't correct though.

  • @Privacityuser
    @Privacityuser Před 2 měsíci +1

    The pentagon shape is just an chemical ''representation'' in reality they are waves an assymetrical variation's there aren't order's that keep function without water in the liquid state or other ((enviroments)) that keep magnetic fields in order

  • @acidbubbles419
    @acidbubbles419 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Drink every time he says microtubule 😂

  • @jbtechcon7434
    @jbtechcon7434 Před 13 dny

    When did he give this talk?

  • @theophany150
    @theophany150 Před 2 měsíci

    So is Dr. Hameroff actually saying there is something it is like to be a paramecium? Do they experience existence?

  • @johnc4957
    @johnc4957 Před 2 měsíci

    That man at the end, around 1:00:00 mark is just like the boss in Office Space

  • @slanglabadang
    @slanglabadang Před 2 měsíci

    Emergence is just coherent overtones

  • @MW-cx3sb
    @MW-cx3sb Před měsícem

    Was this just an overview presentation? A fair bit he would just read the slides, more than what I have seen of him do before. Really seemed like he was rushing it out, wonder if there was a tight time limit or something.

  • @jasonshapiro9469
    @jasonshapiro9469 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm constantly exposing myself to concepts above my head in hopes of not being so stupid...I really hope this strategy works out otherwise I've wasted a bunch of time I could have spent watching hot girls shake their butts on tik tok

  • @caseyalbright2762
    @caseyalbright2762 Před 2 měsíci

    What do Anastasia drugs to the Paramesium creatures I wonder

  • @leventgonul2035
    @leventgonul2035 Před 10 dny

    I wish I could have understood all, it needs so much background

  • @Privacityuser
    @Privacityuser Před 2 měsíci +1

    Simple lenses like in your eyes reflect with non-destrutivatilly this mess up with photons and camera lenses are an ((biomimicry)) of eyes 👀 👀 no consciousness are needed to collapse just interference and the limitations of our eletrical and quantum sensors that still need robust softwares and codes to reduce noise!

    • @por4atko
      @por4atko Před 2 měsíci

      What science tells us goes a step further - we're not even alive, life is an illusion, consciousness is an illusion. We are merely a complex carrier system of subatomic particles which in their essence aren't alive, thus - we are not alive as well. Nothing of what you see is alive, it's just a flow creating this theatre that unfolds before our eyes to keep this complex system in circulation some more. We do not affect the collapse in any way shape or form as we're no different then a rock. It's just a chance that non-living matter created the capability to fool itself it's alive. The cosmos and the universe are a giant chance that should have never happened. It's the one off where something popped out of the void due to a chance collision between particles in superposition in the quantum field of possibility and reality appeared. But as science tells us, the universe will cool, it will collapse and we'll go back to the absolute void of nothingness. No history, no memory of any existence for all eternity. I love all of the beautiful speculation on this channel from all sorts of kind and well meaning people but it's just a fairytale. I enjoy it but it's not real. Science has a grasp on what we are, where we come from and where we're going and the answer to all of these is utter and pointless nothingness.

  • @marcc16
    @marcc16 Před 2 měsíci +1

    the call is coming from inside the house

  • @mr.c2485
    @mr.c2485 Před 2 měsíci

    A lot of words to say…we think we know WHAT but we have no idea WHY or HOW.

  • @user-if1ly5sn5f
    @user-if1ly5sn5f Před 2 měsíci

    Before i watch ima drop a theory.
    The body itself is made up of the quantum but it’s in a form so a matrix that is stable because of the differences. The quantum fluctuations still happen but are less noticeable because our understanding. The macro is an ocean but as we look inside the ocean, we see the micro and the micro to the quantum. We are leveraging both through our connected differences. Our body is evolving in relation to the outside but the development of skin and paths allow for stability of the differences and sharing. The body itself is an ocean but the differences can be shared as each other. One drop isn’t the whole wave so the drop shares between many and the wave isn’t just one but a whole. The human body is a whole but an ocean of difference stabilized by the process of sharing and entangling. The microtubules from the thumbnail is a stable set of differences that share and then they are a foundation where things can share within the stability. The details need a stabile place to pass through and share so the body evolved just like the planet is a stabile place for us and the differences on earth. The light from the sun is shared and the processes of earth are like an ocean that can share the differences. It’s hard to explain but we are the same but different a little.

    • @user-if1ly5sn5f
      @user-if1ly5sn5f Před 2 měsíci

      What i mean is that it is both the environment but also the differences shared. Stimuli share the differences through the environment but your environment is also the chain of differences sharing. You aren’t one thing, the brain isn’t one thing and doesn’t do one thing. It’s sharing the differences between each other. It actually quite hard to explain so others understand but it’s like everything is water but we are a cup of it and the cup is just cold water forming ice, so we aren’t separated but relative differences sharing. Inside is the same.

  • @RobinCheung
    @RobinCheung Před 2 měsíci

    Why would these resonance frequencies operate in Base 10 while other structures in nature aren't even slightly giving a crap about being rational at all relative to any base 10 numbers: 2 pi radians around circles, e, all sorts of numbers that feel no obligation to be periodic much less rational--yet more than one order of magnitude in a contrived base?
    Interestingly, my honours thesis back on 1999 was a mathematical model of synapsin phosphoproteins, synaptic vesicles, and the cytoskeleton: only one of the coincidental

    • @RobinCheung
      @RobinCheung Před 2 měsíci

      I also wonder if it makes sense to derive theories with such fundamentally reductionist foundational constructs when clearly the orders of complexity involved should suggest reductionism to be several orders removed from anything close to anything allowed to reliably predict anything--kind of like if you factored GM1M2/r^2 for gravity between atoms in a stoichiometric calculation...
      And then carried the gravitational terms up through the electrostatic realm of chemistry; up through the order of steric factors in macromolecular biochemistry; up through the tissue specialization, through organs, through organisms, through psychological and behavioural all the way to calculating the myriad cumulative gravitational effects between all the orders of particles beyond the order of complexity of particles = organisms, particles= collectives (e.g. humans comprising not only human cells but gut bacteria, fungi on the skin; collectives of humans and corporations/social constructs with emergent character; populations; species; then Gaia, still carrying all the gravitational system of equations....
      But that's what it is to build theories on these orders of complexity using the tools of reductionism.
      Why would anyone even dream of applying such inappropriate tools for that job??!
      I think you'd have better luck, for example, if one took systems of linear equations (or approximations like econometric modeling, or the bane of the MBA macroeconomics students' lives that was the realization while trying to use this IS-LM model to explain observations, but then going full retard and then thinking you can use these to drive a desired effect--that like the Fed seems to think "pushing a string across the table" has any chance of resulting in a desired effect based on scientific elucidation of the forces within and without a string when it was being pulled across the table.
      Well, that's what the Fed keeps doing expecting anything other than a bigger mess to come of it.
      Even to just replace systems of equations with systems of inequalities would be "one giant leap for mankind" towards realizing that you would have higher "r-squared" validity ironically if you eschewed all numbers entirely in modeling at those levels of complexity and looked at models as "mountains and molehills of slippery slopes" (slopes that must be made of superconductors because you can slide up them as well as down) then you'd probably find you actually CAN model chaotic systems with a remarkably reliable

    • @RobinCheung
      @RobinCheung Před 2 měsíci

      Also funny he just used the word hologram: in 1987 at the age of 12 when I still lived in Ottawa, I thought courses for the Association for Bright Children in--making Holograms.
      Back then, diode lasers aren't quite nearly prevalent as you'd imagine, so I had to use a little HeNe laser with its 0.5 mW of 6328 Å red; which wasn't easy for a 12-year-old to source 😂 any more than it was a trivial challenge to harvest the front surface mirrors and beam splitters from flea market cameras 😂
      But I thank you for that trip down Memory Circle, as I call it ("circular" time was something I can only remember *of* experiencing so many years ago back in undergrad... but can't even conceive anymore without the psychedelic effects of.... Psychedelics. 😂)

    • @RobinCheung
      @RobinCheung Před 2 měsíci

      It's far easier to communicate across time than to send physical "things" across though, isn't it...)

  • @YaeDigital
    @YaeDigital Před měsícem

    topzera

  • @ejenkins4711
    @ejenkins4711 Před 2 měsíci

    Micrktudlials sound like a dream i had were i travel through a tunnel that had rows of what looked like pinecones

  • @user-uy8cf1yn3u
    @user-uy8cf1yn3u Před 19 dny

    Dosent the double slit expirament prove that consciousness causes collapse? Until something was watching it was wave and particle, wouldnt that mean that theres the main source, God, and were his eyes, everything here because hes watching and we affect our reality because its in us

  • @hyperduality2838
    @hyperduality2838 Před 2 měsíci

    Yin is dual to yang!
    Generalization (waves) is dual to localization (particles) -- quantum duality.
    Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant.
    "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
    From a converging, convex or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics!
    Convex is dual to concave -- mirrors, lenses.
    Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose using the Hegelian dialectic.
    Duality creates reality!

  • @duongkstn
    @duongkstn Před 11 dny +1

    I scared of the robot behinds the prof !

  • @Hyzer_Sozay
    @Hyzer_Sozay Před 2 měsíci

    Imagine if Thoth didn't use telomere caps and microtubules to mess with our dna 🤔 we would live for thousands of years and be way too smart for our own good, I'd imagine.

  • @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight
    @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight Před 2 měsíci

    22:00 insert Spinners dilation here

  • @abesimpson9661
    @abesimpson9661 Před 2 měsíci

    Switch to .75x if you're having trouble understanding this theory. You still won't but it will be more relaxing to listen to😂

  • @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight
    @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight Před 2 měsíci

    Horowitz; solfeggio

  • @Privacityuser
    @Privacityuser Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is aready proved that Anesthetic haven't the same mechanism of action, and membrane fronzen, lost of mobility of celular menbranes by molecules have the same effects as anesthesics

  • @InnerLuminosity
    @InnerLuminosity Před 2 měsíci

    We are GOD playing hide and seek with itself 😉

  • @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight
    @EsotericPrinciplesOfLight Před 2 měsíci

    Zeitgebers

  • @risunokairu
    @risunokairu Před 2 měsíci

    Why is the gout question guy so angry about his question and the answer?

  • @KT-en8pq
    @KT-en8pq Před 2 měsíci

    Invite Anirban.

  • @asadalbra
    @asadalbra Před 2 měsíci

    !!

  • @MW-cx3sb
    @MW-cx3sb Před měsícem

    50:28 What this dude is trying to say is why I believe there is a type of field that gives this possibility of a 'bing' moment for consciousness to occur. Like a consciousness field or a 'soul' field which makes sense with the quantum nature of it. As long as the conditions are right, that consciousness will pop out into living single cells and keep gaining complexity into larger organisms with more complex consciousness. As we see with our own evolution on this planet.

  • @zardoz7900
    @zardoz7900 Před 2 měsíci

    "life's a quantum reality" that helps 🥴

  • @2013Arcturus
    @2013Arcturus Před měsícem +1

    Beard guy is Reddit personified

  • @AbnormalFly87
    @AbnormalFly87 Před 27 dny

    During Q&A They should've swiped the microphone and it quickly with a hamburger. Probably would've gotten him to shut up quicker.

  • @Privacityuser
    @Privacityuser Před 2 měsíci +1

    Brain Jelly? hahaha you mean 99% water?

  • @BadWithNames123
    @BadWithNames123 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how many girlfriends do you have?

  • @Chaoticgood252
    @Chaoticgood252 Před 2 měsíci

    this sounds so confused. theyre looking for consciousness like it's an object

  • @patrickl6932
    @patrickl6932 Před 2 měsíci

    Donald Hoffman already debunked this clown

    • @williamjmccartan8879
      @williamjmccartan8879 Před 2 měsíci

      Not sure if you watched Donald's conversation with Richard Watson on Michael Levin's Academic youtube channel from earlier this week, it was really interesting

  • @AdvaiticOneness1
    @AdvaiticOneness1 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Consciousness is not exactly what he thinks it is!

    • @FMDD168
      @FMDD168 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Armchair know it all.

    • @quack-head0
      @quack-head0 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Do go on?

    • @JohnCiurea
      @JohnCiurea Před 2 měsíci

      the "he thinks" part should be in capital letters :P

    • @AdvaiticOneness1
      @AdvaiticOneness1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​​@@quack-head0He slightly touched upon that topic at 45:26 , The Hindu scriptures delve deeply into the nature of reality and consciousness, a topic that science is gradually exploring. Many quantum physicists, including Erwin Schrödinger, found inspiration in the teachings of the Upanishads. Schrödinger elaborated on this connection in his book "What is Life?"

    • @quack-head0
      @quack-head0 Před 2 měsíci

      @AdvaiticOneness1 Why is the Hindu interpretation of consciousness right but he is wrong?

  • @ricodelta1
    @ricodelta1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Guy with the beard is having a mid life crisis

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit Před 2 měsíci

    Well that blew my head out my arse.