Culdesac Tempe: The First Car-free Community Built From Scratch in the US
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2022
- Culdesac Tempe is the first car-free community built from Scratch in the US. 17 acres, 1000 residents, and 0 private parking. Opening Winter of 2022.
Why is this named Culdesac???????? It sounds like Cul-de-sac, which is the antithesis of walkability. By the way, the project seems very interesting. I'm interested to see the masterplan
I feel the same
might be for the irony
For what it's worth, it's Bilbo's place in the Lord of the Rings' French translation
Cul de sac literally means dead end. Nothing to do with cars.
@@derekschinke2512 In English, it's most often used as the dead end of the road. Cul-de-Sacs are really bad for walkability, as they reduce connections --- just so local roads have less traffic.
I lived in the La Paloma Apts next door when I attended ASU, just pre-light rail, when the Culdesac property was a trailer park and the staging ground for firearms celebrations on holidays. Yeah, it was that kind of neighborhood. I haven't lived in AZ since 2007, but I think this is a wonderful idea. It's already close to everything else. I used to bike all over. I'm rooting for its success
Thanks for being a supporter!
I give it less than 3 months before DGAF people that do not live in the community start parking their cars there.
Its not a great location for a car free project but that might be the point. Success is defined as people simply living there. Which proves there is demand for housing even if there is no guaranteed parking even in a car dependent place like Phoenix.
There will still be need for cars by residents, so some will own cars and park on the street, looks like there's plenty of space for quite a few cars. Car sharing is going to be a solution.
This one dense node will be an issue for the light rail in that a lot of people will be getting on and off that this station. Might have to upgrade the station.
The foot traffic should create a pull for businesses to set up close to this community (close to workers and customers). That would get the ball rolling transforming the place into a more walkable area.
I think many resident will be students. Many of whom don’t come to college with cars.
I'd rather take the bus
@@SuperTyden students can’t afford these places 😅
There’s really no land around that area for businesses to purchase. It’s already used up.
I expect most people living there will drive and will park on nearby streets
Excited to see such development in the US
Same here !
Another wacko, stupid idea, who the hell would want to be forced to live there or even choose to...I wouldn't
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 Who's forcing you to live there? Maybe you should call the police. Most people choose where they live and you can choose a place like this, or the zillions of alternatives. lol
@@danmobile Eventually, World Order "Elites" will have 12 min cities instead of living where you choose & force whatever population will be left into them, unless we can stop these demons. They are doing exactly what they want main stream people to do, to think "Wow, what a great idea!!", to start out.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 Who's forcing anyone. If you don't like it, then don't live there. It's called freedom and letting a thousand flowers bloom.
Yet people do it all over the world. It might not seem leisurely to you, but to many, it is not that bad. I ride my bike rain or shine, hot or cold, and so do millions of others. There is also the bus, uber, ride share, and the light rail if someone doesn't want to ride or walk in the heat. Plus, on a bike, you create your own cooling breeze, so refreshing. When it's hot, I spray a fine mist of water on myself, which cools me and feels good to boot.
Tempe is booming.
This is an exciting idea, though the Phoenix area is the last place I would expect it to happen.
Looks amazing, I hope I goes well!
More please.
This looks awesome! What are the prices for two bedroom units?
I think its around $2k
yeah looks, but if you watch closely , the people are stacked one over the other
@@thelastninja4825 lol that’s the whole point
no one knows, you cannot get that information from the developer's website or from their general purpose number. i called, i asked, i checked, and failed.
1 bed is around 1400 and you make a guess moving upward on the bedroom space. It’s going to be “cheaper” for the area since they can put more units since they have very little space for cars.
Also comes with Uber and Lyft discounts, a valley metro pass and I believe a discount on rental cars via Turo!
well that sounds nice, I wonder why they called it culdesac tho
Looks nice
I bet the developers will make a lot more per acre as well. Win-win!!!
Bro, you guys are starting in a random area in Arizona. Why not come to the East Coast where people are already somewhat familiar with this. Washington DC to be exact! I would start renting immediately if I see this come to our area!
Tempe is actually the most walkable, bikeable, and transit-friendly city in Arizona. It's an urban college town that is home to one of the largest universities in the United States. A lot of companies are headquartered in Tempe, and there is a lot of new urbanism happening there, more so than in Phoenix. I'm not from Tempe but visiting it is very interesting to see in Arizona.
Also, the point of this is to implement it in areas that normally aren’t walkable, unlike a lot of big cities.
Land prices, I'm sure.
@@AtariTheAnimator fair enough
Maybe because they did some research, the land next to the light rail was available, they saw a demand for this type of development, and the city was willing to work with them on the zoning. You don't think they spent millions of dollars without some data, do you?
Unless I am missing something this video gives the illusion that this complex is near Town Lake. Rather it is on Apache between McClintock and Price, correct? There is no water features included here. The biggest feature would be it is next to the light rail.
Please come to Chicago
YES PLEASE
I’m just here for the Car-Brain comments😂
No shortage.
Very cool but Arizona is the worst place to build something like this. It's too hot.
I wish that Telosa build in Arizona.
How does Arizona have this much water??
Phoenix has a large canal system that takes water from the Colorado River. There's actually a canal only a mile east of Culdesac Tempe.
@@AtariTheAnimatorA walkable neighbourhood is a good idea and a watersaving measure to a degree. If all of Tempe/Phoenix was built like that it would save a lot of water. Not sure though if fountains and other lavish water displays are a good idea as far as conserving water goes though...
Why does this only get 15000 clicks?
Such a cool concept! Definitely going to keep an eye on Culdesac as development continues
Yes finally! We need more car-free Culdesac Communities in every major US city along with LRT and HSR transport!
You're nuts.
Awesome
Meanwhile, most Americans cannot participate in society without a car. Even older cities pay little heed to pedestrian and bike traffic. The car remains the centerpiece of American society and so continues its decline.
Well, this is a good start. If there is demand, more of this development will ensue. I wish them success because what cities have been doing is not working well. A similar development is coming to Denver on the land where Elich Gardens Amusement Park is currently located. It's going to be a mixed dense living space with retail space. I don't know if it will be car-free, but it is supposed to be walkable and bike-friendly, and it's right near downtown and right on the Platte River multi-use trail, which connects to the Cherry Creek Trail and the Bear Creek Trail.
Why go from one extreme (car dependend) to another (car free)? There's already commercial parking placed at the edge, you could do the same with residential parking. The neighbourhood would still be fully walkable since cars stay parked at the edge and don't enter the space inside.
Eventually everyone will be forced into these cubicles. Own nothing & be happy.
Not enough retail.
god i wanna live here but i know its gonna be expensive >
Why so many of these communities are "under construction" rather than already built? I mean, if they work, they may prove a point. If not, they may put back this progress for decades.
A lot of these people, transport centric community has been built, it just so happen that car company lobbying work so well that most of these got bulldozed for highway and interstate
Culdesac recently opened although a lot of it is still under construction. Driving past it and taking the light rail, it looks like they've made great progress but still need a lot more to finish it.
Interested to see how a disabled person gets groceries to their house.
Instacart.
Interesting question, I wonder how people in the rest of the world where their city is not car centric get their grocery, you got any idea?
You know most disabled people can’t drive either?
There is a corner store right in front of the site, and if the person were to get groceries from an external store, then all they would need to do is cross at the designated crossing to the light rail station and then go up a wheelchair-accessible ramp and enter a light rail train that has wheelchair accessible areas and a place where wheelchairs can be secured. It's all pretty simple and accessible.
September 2022, and still the closest this development is to being complete is accepting non refundable $100 deposits with no complete structures and not even details of the rent (oh yeah you cannot buy, only rent). Vaporware.
Construction is well underway, wdym? And the development is an apartment complex, of course it's for rent.
@@orbitalstream2481 construction is not underway. check the site if you live nearby. also, why must i put down a $100 non refundable deposit to get in line to rent, when i cannot even obtain information on what rent will be, what floor plans will be available.
@@kapilchhabria1727 Do you not see the updates on the channel?
@@kapilchhabria1727 Units in Culdesac Tempe will range from $1,000/month for a studio to $2,200/month for a three-bedroom apartment, which is in line with the average rent in the area. Source-Wikipedia
@@orbitalstream2481 that is not necessarily a reliable source, i am hoping to see some numbers from the builder / management. i remain skeptical since building something such as this is actually quite trivial and does not require such fanfare. and when there is over the top advertising and buildup, its often just vaporware. all one needs to do is make narrower streets, permit street parking, and line the street edges with trees, and reduce the street offset. that is something folks have been doing for years in new york city, chicago, philadelphia, portland, seattle and boston.
I assume that somewhere there will be a parking garage for cars, and that an arrangement for convenient public transportation will be available.
sounds interesting
Misleading red earth is surrounded by built up area & no water yet the video keeps cutting to waterfront???? WTF???
They're showing a waterfront area that's miles away. This is a very misleading video.
@@danieldaniels7571 It's about 2.5 miles away, a leisurely bike ride.
@@kitchencarvings4621 there’s nothing leisurely about riding a bike any distance in the sun when it’s 107 degrees out. That’s the current temperature in Tempe.
I travel extensively overseas and see how Asia especially has dealt with housing large numbers of people in limited space. Hong Kong for example builds tall residential buildings right on top of mass transit stations and shopping in the same building. Open shared space such as parks are abundant. As nice as this development looks, it will still house less people per acre because the buildings are still low-rise. Silicon Valley in California is a perfect example of mass suburban sprawl where you are forced into your car and everyone has a single story or maybe two story house with large yard and no significant density.
The core will be in a different approach to zoning: 99% percent of US neighbourhouds are not walkable because of the zoning laws that prohibit commercial use in residential area's. This is opposite to the Dutch "bestemmingsplannen" (comparable zoning laws) that actually make mandatory that certain kinds of uses and services (commercial or otherwise), such as (smaller!) supermarkets, schools, daycare's, bistro's and restaurants, and basically all the services that a normal household needs on a daily basis SHOULD be present in every living neighbourhood, and at walking of biking distance. The result of this is that people are ENABLE to manage their lives with driving. So to break out of the American mold of doing everything by car the first thing you should do is change the zoning laws, and make them more sofisticated (because of course you don't want heavy industry in your residential zones so a differentiation should be built in between kinds of commercial use that can be allowed in residential neighbourhoods.
This is positive, and it's a good start on better urban design, but unlike organic city streets, this is entirely private, controlled by the developer, and it is not remotely affordable housing. Again, it's not bad as a showcase of what cities should look like, but as a standard development model, it is woefully inadequate.
Rare u.s. w
Great commercial. Trying to sell a product works best if you actually show the product. Therefore I can conclude what’s being sold is marketing.
So the Natives had cars?
Most of them do now. No public transit on the rez.
Your still going to be surrounded by cars lmao
We have to start somewhere. It's not this company's fault that this country was built wrong for the last several decades.
Yes it is unfortunately true. But it's one step in the right direction.
The reinvention of the wheel
The reinvention of prison.
Sounds like it's based on the concept of 15 min cities to me. Hard pass.
Please use Google if you don't know what 15 min cities are.
Another one! Yeah...
International impact? Ahahah man, the world is already like this
Americans discover how Europeans live
The whole point is being free and having a car who wants walking distance when it’s 110° outside in the desert. Nobody wants to live in a neighborhood where the residents can’t afford a car or two. Are you gonna move my office into the neighborhood??? LoL 😂
Smooth brained
Somehow all over the world there are cities where people walk despite high temperatures and humidity. If you build a dense walkable neighborhood, the buildings and trees help to shade you as you walk, which significantly reduces heat. On top of that, much of the heat within a city is caused by dark surfaces such as roads and black-top roofs, which can increase temperatures by 20+ degrees compared to surrounding areas. Google the "heat island" effect to learn more.
Walkability has nothing to do with whether or not people "can" afford a car and everything to do with whether they want one. Believe it or not there are other ways to get to work without driving. You can walk, bike, or take public transit.
If you get rid of the heat absorbing asphalt roads & you shade the pedestrian streets with trees, greenspace & tall buildings, then walking around in the summer actually becomes very bearable. Also, yes we can build office space in this kind of neighborhood; its called mixed-use development.
@@LimitedWard Walk or bike 15 miles to work when it’s 120 degrees or monsoon rain or a dust storm? Or take light rail? Google crime and homeless on light rail in Phoenix, Tempe, Mesa, then see if you want to ride.
I have zero problem with these apartment communities being built. I just cringe when people sell it as a utopia when it isn’t.
@@LimitedWard Except this entire neighborhood isn’t like that, just this complex. It’s not a nice neighborhood at all, there’s very few stores and no grocery store. And maybe I don’t want to pay higher prices to use the little market they’re sticking in the complex. It’s often 115 and over in the summer. Light rail has homeless and addicts that harass people. This area is a dusty rundown old area that made the property cheap to buy and they’ll pat themselves on the back for their social engineering points.
Looks like a glorified prison camp combined with a nursing home. No thanks.
15 minute city. 👎🏻
Like you 🫵👎
Love it, I would love to live there
Stupid Idea.
LOL, good luck with that.
Let me guess, people will park in the neighborhood and take away all of the street parkings now. This area is not walkable at all. Closest grocery stores are 2-3 miles away. Gym (there are 2) are about 5 miles away. It is surrounded by buildings that look like ghettos. Go take a walk on Smith Road and you will see ghettos and people will low income living there. The only good thing about this community is its close proximity to the light rail station which one could take straight to ASU. Guess what, alot of homeless people ride that train. Oh and the lake you guys keep sharing, is 5 miles away from this community. Closest light rail station (Mill Ave station) to that is still 15 minutes walk to the lake.
There's literally a grocery store in the middle of the community
@@psychiclatonea2949 Charging double or triple.
It’s an experiment.
@@unreal111 How about you move there and then tell us about it later? This looks awesome, a breath of fresh air. Somewhere you don't have to drive to meet your needs.
I live in Tempe and there is no way I would want to live in this community in the summer. Imagine walking long distances in 110 degree weather. Winter would be nice though.
another BS concept
almost done with it lmao
Not BS
@@greenmachine5600 more BS than FTX
..you do realize most of the world lives like this already?
I suppose Europe is a BS concept too.
What about work?? How to these people go to work??
Residents are provided with a variety of mobility options like free light rail passes, access to e-bikes, discounts on ride share services, and more!
Americans make it sounds new and like nowhere else in the world has done it, oh please🥱. News flash it's not a new idea, but glad you've finally joined the party.